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Message Subject Richard III - Bad News For The Queen
Poster Handle Chrit
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I'm still mad about Llywelyn, so says the Welsh guy.
 Quoting: Chrit

Why? he sided with the English, Scottish Marches and Welsh Marches rebels fighting the crown.. and WE the English, Scottish and Welsh rebels lost against the Crowns of Europe and Roman Catholic Church.

Longshanks was taken Prisoner after the battle of Lewes, at which point llywelyn and De Monford came to an accord to bring peace between our nations, and make Llywelyn Prince of Wales.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

You only have to look at who was taken Prisoner at Lewes to know what the rebels where fighting against, along with Longshanks, the rebels took prisoner the King of the Romans, King Henry III, and even the Bruces where taken prisoner at the Battle of Lewes, while Clans like Sinclair fled back to Scotland.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Interestingly, or not the rebels fought against the Crown in the true colours of these Isles, a white cross on a Red field.

And only through treachery, Longshanks disguising his troops in the true colours (white cross on a red field) did Longshanks sneak up on the rebels at Evesham.

The slaughter at Evesham by Longshanks was followed by the slaughter of the Welsh and slaughter of the Scots..

I hope your not one of those people who likes to see history out of glasses that are tinged with "evil English"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33649970

I was referring to Llywelyn the last.

Edward wanted Llywelyn “the last” to surrender Wales where upon Llywelyn “the last” refused and went to rally the army. He was then killed in strange circumstances. The Welsh now without a leader to rally around succumbed one by one to annexation and forcible conscription of the Welsh bowman. We were made slaves to the crown on pain of death.

And no "evil English" I know my family tree back over 7 generations to where my family was knighted. But still not impressed with how many deals the crown made with no intention to ever keep. But then again that is why they are still in power.

There was after all a reason my family left England in 1776 and fought for the independence of the United States.

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