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Toyota and Nissan Shift From Electric Vehicles; Death Knell for Chevy Volt?

 
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Toyota and Nissan Shift From Electric Vehicles; Death Knell for Chevy Volt?
"According to Toyota Vice Chairman Takeshi Uchiyamada, "Because of its shortcomings - driving range, cost and recharging time - the electric vehicle is not a viable replacement for most conventional cars; we need something entirely new." Uchiyamada is considered the "father of the Prius."

An article by Reuter's exposes the limitations of EVs and focuses on Toyota's, along with Nissan's, change in strategy, which is now moving away from EVs. Even the most ideological and extreme green energy proponents and backers of the Chevy Volt will have to open their eyes to the sad truth uncovered by the latest report."

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lol, and didn't the obama administration spend millions of taxpayer dollars to promote gm and the chevy volt?
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Great somebody talking sense about saving the environment and how electricity is not the way to go for vehicles!

People that purchase electric vehicles are not told that the batteries do not last forever and will need to be replaced. The costs can be from $5000 to $7000 depending on the vehicle. I am not happy with the electric cars.

There has to be another alernative that is cheaper than electric cars!
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Great somebody talking sense about saving the environment and how electricity is not the way to go for vehicles!

People that purchase electric vehicles are not told that the batteries do not last forever and will need to be replaced. The costs can be from $5000 to $7000 depending on the vehicle. I am not happy with the electric cars.

There has to be another alernative that is cheaper than electric cars!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17036978


wow, i didn't know that about the batteries? 1doh1 so these electric cars cost a fortune to start with, and they alobng awith all the other maintainence also require such an expensive battery?

you have to be a damn millionaire to own one.
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Great somebody talking sense about saving the environment and how electricity is not the way to go for vehicles!

People that purchase electric vehicles are not told that the batteries do not last forever and will need to be replaced. The costs can be from $5000 to $7000 depending on the vehicle. I am not happy with the electric cars.

There has to be another alernative that is cheaper than electric cars!
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hog wash

the nissan leaf replacement battery cell is 3300$

i work for a nissan dealer
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Great somebody talking sense about saving the environment and how electricity is not the way to go for vehicles!

People that purchase electric vehicles are not told that the batteries do not last forever and will need to be replaced. The costs can be from $5000 to $7000 depending on the vehicle. I am not happy with the electric cars.

There has to be another alernative that is cheaper than electric cars!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17036978


hog wash

the nissan leaf replacement battery cell is 3300$

i work for a nissan dealer
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33186992


and you don't think that is excessive? what about other maintainence? just as costly as for a regular car?
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thank you for the pin and the stars hf
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Re: Toyota and Nissan Shift From Electric Vehicles; Death Knell for Chevy Volt?
The Prius and Volt are not EVs! The leaf is an EV, the other two are hybrids.
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Great somebody talking sense about saving the environment and how electricity is not the way to go for vehicles!

People that purchase electric vehicles are not told that the batteries do not last forever and will need to be replaced. The costs can be from $5000 to $7000 depending on the vehicle. I am not happy with the electric cars.

There has to be another alernative that is cheaper than electric cars!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17036978


wow, i didn't know that about the batteries? 1doh1 so these electric cars cost a fortune to start with, and they alobng awith all the other maintainence also require such an expensive battery?

you have to be a damn millionaire to own one.
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Plus local govt's are going to add a surcharge to these cars since they're passing the pumps and skipping the fuel tax.
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Your battery price is too high, to the poster two abone me. A whole car conversion only costas 5 grand, and there are no maintenace costs for an EV, so you could save for the batts.
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This is a PsyOp to keep all you sheeple sucking up the oil that supports the American Petrodollar. Last time I looked there is no Electrodollar.

You fools believe anyrything.

The technology is out there to replace the batteries with highly efficient Super Capacitors that can charge within minutes with no degredation from charging a million times.

Open your eyes folks and dont be so gullable !
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Great somebody talking sense about saving the environment and how electricity is not the way to go for vehicles!

People that purchase electric vehicles are not told that the batteries do not last forever and will need to be replaced. The costs can be from $5000 to $7000 depending on the vehicle. I am not happy with the electric cars.

There has to be another alernative that is cheaper than electric cars!
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The Doble. Detroit did everything in its power to kill it. External combustion opens the door to almost unlimited fuel options.
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Re: Toyota and Nissan Shift From Electric Vehicles; Death Knell for Chevy Volt?
Great somebody talking sense about saving the environment and how electricity is not the way to go for vehicles!

People that purchase electric vehicles are not told that the batteries do not last forever and will need to be replaced. The costs can be from $5000 to $7000 depending on the vehicle. I am not happy with the electric cars.

There has to be another alernative that is cheaper than electric cars!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17036978


wow, i didn't know that about the batteries? 1doh1 so these electric cars cost a fortune to start with, and they alobng awith all the other maintainence also require such an expensive battery?

you have to be a damn millionaire to own one.
 Quoting: davvi


It gets better.

Are electric cars actually bad for the environment? (Yes)
[link to theweek.com]
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oh no... the green police are going to have individual strokes.

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Re: Toyota and Nissan Shift From Electric Vehicles; Death Knell for Chevy Volt?
Great somebody talking sense about saving the environment and how electricity is not the way to go for vehicles!

People that purchase electric vehicles are not told that the batteries do not last forever and will need to be replaced. The costs can be from $5000 to $7000 depending on the vehicle. I am not happy with the electric cars.

There has to be another alernative that is cheaper than electric cars!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17036978


wow, i didn't know that about the batteries? 1doh1 so these electric cars cost a fortune to start with, and they alobng awith all the other maintainence also require such an expensive battery?

you have to be a damn millionaire to own one.
 Quoting: davvi


Plus local govt's are going to add a surcharge to these cars since they're passing the pumps and skipping the fuel tax.
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ooooh there's something that no one thought of, and i doubt that government will be happay about anyone skipping a TAX.
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Your battery price is too high, to the poster two abone me. A whole car conversion only costas 5 grand, and there are no maintenace costs for an EV, so you could save for the batts.
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A replacement battery for the Tesla is 30 thousand dollars and if you run it flat it isn't under warranty.
Electric cars need a power source. WE don't have one.
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Re: Toyota and Nissan Shift From Electric Vehicles; Death Knell for Chevy Volt?
This is a PsyOp to keep all you sheeple sucking up the oil that supports the American Petrodollar. Last time I looked there is no Electrodollar.

You fools believe anyrything.

The technology is out there to replace the batteries with highly efficient Super Capacitors that can charge within minutes with no degredation from charging a million times.

Open your eyes folks and dont be so gullable !
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i don't give a damn what kind of car they come up with as long as they do it without taxpayer subsidies.
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Great somebody talking sense about saving the environment and how electricity is not the way to go for vehicles!

People that purchase electric vehicles are not told that the batteries do not last forever and will need to be replaced. The costs can be from $5000 to $7000 depending on the vehicle. I am not happy with the electric cars.

There has to be another alernative that is cheaper than electric cars!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17036978


wow, i didn't know that about the batteries? 1doh1 so these electric cars cost a fortune to start with, and they alobng awith all the other maintainence also require such an expensive battery?

you have to be a damn millionaire to own one.
 Quoting: davvi


Plus local govt's are going to add a surcharge to these cars since they're passing the pumps and skipping the fuel tax.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33735239


ooooh there's something that no one thought of, and i doubt that government will be happay about anyone skipping a TAX.
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I think Virginia is going to make people pay and extra $100 dollars a year.
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Great somebody talking sense about saving the environment and how electricity is not the way to go for vehicles!

People that purchase electric vehicles are not told that the batteries do not last forever and will need to be replaced. The costs can be from $5000 to $7000 depending on the vehicle. I am not happy with the electric cars.

There has to be another alernative that is cheaper than electric cars!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17036978


hog wash

the nissan leaf replacement battery cell is 3300$

i work for a nissan dealer
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33186992


What a shill piece of shit...okay then here,

"The costs can be from $3300 to $7000 depending on the vehicle"

Is that better Nissan Prick?
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Your battery price is too high, to the poster two abone me. A whole car conversion only costas 5 grand, and there are no maintenace costs for an EV, so you could save for the batts.
 Quoting: Adamic Seed nli 14200538


A replacement battery for the Tesla is 30 thousand dollars and if you run it flat it isn't under warranty.
Electric cars need a power source. WE don't have one.
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Yes we do ! I think you need to do some research on your own. All technologies except for petrol are bad for the environment ? LOL


People will sit around here and complain that the economy, the market and everything else is manipulated but we dont have a source to replace oil ? 1rof1
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wow, i didn't know that about the batteries? 1doh1 so these electric cars cost a fortune to start with, and they alobng awith all the other maintainence also require such an expensive battery?

you have to be a damn millionaire to own one.
 Quoting: davvi


Plus local govt's are going to add a surcharge to these cars since they're passing the pumps and skipping the fuel tax.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33735239


ooooh there's something that no one thought of, and i doubt that government will be happay about anyone skipping a TAX.
 Quoting: davvi


I think Virginia is going to make people pay and extra $100 dollars a year.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33735239


i wouldn't be surprised. i read somewhere a while back that the government makes more in taxes than the oil company makes in profit for each gallon of gas sold. neat trick considering that the government does nothing to produce oil or gas.

so gasoline is a huge source of revenue for the government and we all know they can not do with less money and we have no choice.
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Re: Toyota and Nissan Shift From Electric Vehicles; Death Knell for Chevy Volt?
Great somebody talking sense about saving the environment and how electricity is not the way to go for vehicles!

People that purchase electric vehicles are not told that the batteries do not last forever and will need to be replaced. The costs can be from $5000 to $7000 depending on the vehicle. I am not happy with the electric cars.

There has to be another alernative that is cheaper than electric cars!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17036978


hog wash

the nissan leaf replacement battery cell is 3300$

i work for a nissan dealer
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33186992


What a shill piece of shit...okay then here,

"The costs can be from $3300 to $7000 depending on the vehicle"

Is that better Nissan Prick?
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OH and to the nissan boy, do you install these $3300 batteries for free?

...thought so
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Re: Toyota and Nissan Shift From Electric Vehicles; Death Knell for Chevy Volt?
Great somebody talking sense about saving the environment and how electricity is not the way to go for vehicles!

People that purchase electric vehicles are not told that the batteries do not last forever and will need to be replaced. The costs can be from $5000 to $7000 depending on the vehicle. I am not happy with the electric cars.

There has to be another alernative that is cheaper than electric cars!
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hog wash

the nissan leaf replacement battery cell is 3300$

i work for a nissan dealer
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33186992


Oh, well then, that changes EVERYTHING! Let me just pull that shit out of the space between my sofa cushions here...
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Re: Toyota and Nissan Shift From Electric Vehicles; Death Knell for Chevy Volt?
Great somebody talking sense about saving the environment and how electricity is not the way to go for vehicles!

People that purchase electric vehicles are not told that the batteries do not last forever and will need to be replaced. The costs can be from $5000 to $7000 depending on the vehicle. I am not happy with the electric cars.

There has to be another alernative that is cheaper than electric cars!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17036978


hog wash

the nissan leaf replacement battery cell is 3300$

i work for a nissan dealer
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33186992


that is still a lot of money. and what happens to the old battery?
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that is still a lot of money. and what happens to the old battery?
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NOT enviromentally friendly!!
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that is still a lot of money. and what happens to the old battery?
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NOT enviromentally friendly!!
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the batteries go to the same graveyard where those squirrelly light bulbs go...
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Here is an oldie but a goodie.

The full length English version movie of "Who Killed The Electric Car"

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Get some popcorn and enjoy !
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If only big oil did not shut this guy down and any other attempt at replacing them.
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In Porto, Portugal, some years ago there was some buses that run on hydrogen. They worked fine, everyone said wonderful things about them but now they are forgotten and I don't see them anymore.

Hydrogen might be the future alternative.
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In Porto, Portugal, some years ago there was some buses that run on hydrogen. They worked fine, everyone said wonderful things about them but now they are forgotten and I don't see them anymore.

Hydrogen might be the future alternative.
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yes
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Word is they found a way to run cars on nuclear waste.
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This is a PsyOp to keep all you sheeple sucking up the oil that supports the American Petrodollar. Last time I looked there is no Electrodollar.

You fools believe anyrything.

The technology is out there to replace the batteries with highly efficient Super Capacitors that can charge within minutes with no degredation from charging a million times.

Open your eyes folks and dont be so gullable !
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Oh yes, there is! The nuclear lobby is attacking in force again.

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