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CBO: Seven Million Workers Will Lose Insurance Under Obamacare

 
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CBO: Seven Million Workers Will Lose Insurance Under Obamacare
President Obama's health care law will push 7 million people out of their job-based insurance coverage — nearly twice the previous estimate, according to the latest estimates from the Congressional Budget Office released Tuesday.

CBO said that this year's tax cuts have changed the incentives for businesses and made it less attractive to pay for insurance, meaning fewer will decide to do so. Instead, they'll choose to pay a penalty to the government, totaling $13 billion in higher fees over the next decade.

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Plus millions will be dropped to part time.

I already personally know 2 people who are going to be part time now thanks to Obamacare.

Thanks "O".
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Plus millions will be dropped to part time.

I already personally know 2 people who are going to be part time now thanks to Obamacare.

Thanks "O".
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"And I know that when I leave savage wolves will come in among you and will not spare the flock. Even from your own number men will arise and distort the truth in order to draw away disciples after them. So be on your guard. We are not the wolves at the gate, we are the ones who face them."

And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved. Matthew 10:22

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hi cF!

Good to see ya back!
"And I know that when I leave savage wolves will come in among you and will not spare the flock. Even from your own number men will arise and distort the truth in order to draw away disciples after them. So be on your guard. We are not the wolves at the gate, we are the ones who face them."

And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved. Matthew 10:22

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hi cF!

Good to see ya back!
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Yrs, they knew this would happen and wanted it to happen.The people who get dropped will be forced to seek their own insurance in the private market. Since many will find this unaffordable due to sky-rocketing premiums, they will be forced to purchase from the Obamacare exchanges being set up in all states. This is gov't subsidized, so the gov't gets to set all the rules. Eventually we will all be forced to purchase our insurance from the exchanges due to the private market being too costly. Except for the elite, of course. It is too late to turn back the clock. Welcome to the loss of your healthcare freedom and say hello to death panels. One example is that reimbursement for surgeries will be "outcome based". Do you know what that means? Suppose you are in very poor health and find yourself needing life-saving surgery. Good luck finding a surgeon and hospital to treat you because Obamacare states they will not be reimbursed if the outcome is poor. The law also states that not all medications or procedures will be available to every individual. Think about that.
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Yrs, they knew this would happen and wanted it to happen.The people who get dropped will be forced to seek their own insurance in the private market. Since many will find this unaffordable due to sky-rocketing premiums, they will be forced to purchase from the Obamacare exchanges being set up in all states. This is gov't subsidized, so the gov't gets to set all the rules. Eventually we will all be forced to purchase our insurance from the exchanges due to the private market being too costly. Except for the elite, of course. It is too late to turn back the clock. Welcome to the loss of your healthcare freedom and say hello to death panels. One example is that reimbursement for surgeries will be "outcome based". Do you know what that means? Suppose you are in very poor health and find yourself needing life-saving surgery. Good luck finding a surgeon and hospital to treat you because Obamacare states they will not be reimbursed if the outcome is poor. The law also states that not all medications or procedures will be available to every individual. Think about that.
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Sounds very plausible to me.

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"And I know that when I leave savage wolves will come in among you and will not spare the flock. Even from your own number men will arise and distort the truth in order to draw away disciples after them. So be on your guard. We are not the wolves at the gate, we are the ones who face them."

And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved. Matthew 10:22

Wake up, oh sleeper, and rise from the dead, and Christ will shine on you
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7 milllion dropped to part time means 7 million hired to pick up the slack = unenmployment rate drops.

share your work hours you greedy bastards , you don't need 40 of them to live on. banana2
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All that money already paid into insurance will be stolen.
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Plus millions will be dropped to part time.

I already personally know 2 people who are going to be part time now thanks to Obamacare.

Thanks "O".
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Just heard my friend's husband got let go for this reason. 0 years on the job.
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oops!! 30 years on the job!
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Yrs, they knew this would happen and wanted it to happen.The people who get dropped will be forced to seek their own insurance in the private market. Since many will find this unaffordable due to sky-rocketing premiums, they will be forced to purchase from the Obamacare exchanges being set up in all states. This is gov't subsidized, so the gov't gets to set all the rules. Eventually we will all be forced to purchase our insurance from the exchanges due to the private market being too costly. Except for the elite, of course. It is too late to turn back the clock. Welcome to the loss of your healthcare freedom and say hello to death panels. One example is that reimbursement for surgeries will be "outcome based". Do you know what that means? Suppose you are in very poor health and find yourself needing life-saving surgery. Good luck finding a surgeon and hospital to treat you because Obamacare states they will not be reimbursed if the outcome is poor. The law also states that not all medications or procedures will be available to every individual. Think about that.
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I completely agree here. The endgame is to get everyone away from private insurance and all into the "public option"

Since we as Americans rejected the public option, they will step by step stealthily move us in that direction.


Good post!
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Re: CBO: Seven Million Workers Will Lose Insurance Under Obamacare
Plus millions will be dropped to part time.

I already personally know 2 people who are going to be part time now thanks to Obamacare.

Thanks "O".
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Just heard my friend's husband got let go for this reason. 0 years on the job.
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It's ridiculous isn't it?

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Time to bring my tomato plants in.
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The question is does he care ?. I do not think he does, my reason for that is he/they whatever put the bill together and got it passed. Thus they know what effects it will have.
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The question is does he care ?. I do not think he does, my reason for that is he/they whatever put the bill together and got it passed. Thus they know what effects it will have.
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Agreed. They want to push us into complete socialized healthcare.

It will happen. A poster above explained it well.
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Not only will millions lose the insurance they have, but the majority of workplace insurance premiums are paid by the employers as a benefit that is a hidden income. No longer having that hidden income they will now be taxed in roughly the amount that was never stated as income. Double whammy!

Example: Before Obama fraudulently ascended to his throne, I used to work for a large company with great insurance. It was $140 per paycheck ($3780 per year) and the company paid roughly $1500 per month which was about $18,000 per year. Anything familiar with that last figure? Awefully close to the $20,000 the IRS estimates will be the lowest level of Obamacare for a family of 4. It’s the amount we used to get paid as an unreported benefit that the government is now going to charge us for the least expensive of the government’s tender care options.

We are screwed folks. There is no way in hell this is going to work. They are crashing the system and they are doing it on purpose.

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Not only will millions lose the insurance they have, but the majority of workplace insurance premiums are paid by the employers as a benefit that is a hidden income. No longer having that hidden income they will now be taxed in roughly the amount that was never stated as income. Double whammy!

Example: Before Obama fraudulently ascended to his throne, I used to work for a large company with great insurance. It was $140 per paycheck ($3780 per year) and the company paid roughly $1500 per month which was about $18,000 per year. Anything familiar with that last figure? Awefully close to the $20,000 the IRS estimates will be the lowest level of Obamacare for a family of 4. It’s the amount we used to get paid as an unreported benefit that the government is now going to charge us for the least expensive of the government’s tender care options.

We are screwed folks. There is no way in hell this is going to work. They are crashing the system and they are doing it on purpose.
 Quoting: Resister


You are absolutely correct, it is, it must be on purpose. If not, than this admin is really the most business ignorant group on the planet.

Venezuela looked at Obamacare and said "Damn, that piece of socialist legislation will really harm their economy"
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7 milllion dropped to part time means 7 million hired to pick up the slack = unenmployment rate drops.

share your work hours you greedy bastards , you don't need 40 of them to live on. banana2
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you'd wish !!! if an employer finds out that he/she could get by fine with just a part-time employee, he/she will continue to do so , while demanding more productivity from ''said part-time employee'' without the need to hire extra help... that is the wall street business way.
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Insurance shouldn't be job based. It isn't like that in any other country. A person is covered if they have a job, are self-employed or out of work everywhere except the US. Enough pressure is put on businesses these days. They don't need the added pressure to provide insurance as well. That is out dated.
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Not only will millions lose the insurance they have, but the majority of workplace insurance premiums are paid by the employers as a benefit that is a hidden income. No longer having that hidden income they will now be taxed in roughly the amount that was never stated as income. Double whammy!

Example: Before Obama fraudulently ascended to his throne, I used to work for a large company with great insurance. It was $140 per paycheck ($3780 per year) and the company paid roughly $1500 per month which was about $18,000 per year. Anything familiar with that last figure? Awefully close to the $20,000 the IRS estimates will be the lowest level of Obamacare for a family of 4. It’s the amount we used to get paid as an unreported benefit that the government is now going to charge us for the least expensive of the government’s tender care options.

We are screwed folks. There is no way in hell this is going to work. They are crashing the system and they are doing it on purpose.
 Quoting: Resister


You are absolutely correct, it is, it must be on purpose. If not, than this admin is really the most business ignorant group on the planet.

Venezuela looked at Obamacare and said "Damn, that piece of socialist legislation will really harm their economy"
 Quoting: *HEISENBERG*


Maybe that is what Obama wants.
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Not only will millions lose the insurance they have, but the majority of workplace insurance premiums are paid by the employers as a benefit that is a hidden income. No longer having that hidden income they will now be taxed in roughly the amount that was never stated as income. Double whammy!

Example: Before Obama fraudulently ascended to his throne, I used to work for a large company with great insurance. It was $140 per paycheck ($3780 per year) and the company paid roughly $1500 per month which was about $18,000 per year. Anything familiar with that last figure? Awefully close to the $20,000 the IRS estimates will be the lowest level of Obamacare for a family of 4. It’s the amount we used to get paid as an unreported benefit that the government is now going to charge us for the least expensive of the government’s tender care options.

We are screwed folks. There is no way in hell this is going to work. They are crashing the system and they are doing it on purpose.
 Quoting: Resister


You are absolutely correct, it is, it must be on purpose. If not, than this admin is really the most business ignorant group on the planet.

Venezuela looked at Obamacare and said "Damn, that piece of socialist legislation will really harm their economy"
 Quoting: *HEISENBERG*


Maybe that is what Obama wants.
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He doesn't care about people losing jobs or being unemployed. He will take care of them via entitlement programs. His ultimate goal on health insurance is a one-payer service...the US Gov't being that payer. And yes, that gives them control over our lives, our bodies. They will decide who gets to live or die. All of these things are about gaining control over all aspects of people's lives and bodies. And none of these things will be available unless you are CHIPPED.
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Not only will millions lose the insurance they have, but the majority of workplace insurance premiums are paid by the employers as a benefit that is a hidden income. No longer having that hidden income they will now be taxed in roughly the amount that was never stated as income. Double whammy!

Example: Before Obama fraudulently ascended to his throne, I used to work for a large company with great insurance. It was $140 per paycheck ($3780 per year) and the company paid roughly $1500 per month which was about $18,000 per year. Anything familiar with that last figure? Awefully close to the $20,000 the IRS estimates will be the lowest level of Obamacare for a family of 4. It’s the amount we used to get paid as an unreported benefit that the government is now going to charge us for the least expensive of the government’s tender care options.

We are screwed folks. There is no way in hell this is going to work. They are crashing the system and they are doing it on purpose.
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Yep.
Obamacare will put the economy over the brink if it's not already toast at that point.
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Not only will millions lose the insurance they have, but the majority of workplace insurance premiums are paid by the employers as a benefit that is a hidden income. No longer having that hidden income they will now be taxed in roughly the amount that was never stated as income. Double whammy!

Example: Before Obama fraudulently ascended to his throne, I used to work for a large company with great insurance. It was $140 per paycheck ($3780 per year) and the company paid roughly $1500 per month which was about $18,000 per year. Anything familiar with that last figure? Awefully close to the $20,000 the IRS estimates will be the lowest level of Obamacare for a family of 4. It’s the amount we used to get paid as an unreported benefit that the government is now going to charge us for the least expensive of the government’s tender care options.

We are screwed folks. There is no way in hell this is going to work. They are crashing the system and they are doing it on purpose.
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Yep.
Obamacare will put the economy over the brink if it's not already toast at that point.
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I suppose they want to burn it to the ground and raise up something new that they want. Like the proverbial Phoenix bird.
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Still sounds like a low estimate to me, this is just the start.
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We are screwed folks. There is no way in hell this is going to work. They are crashing the system and they are doing it on purpose.
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This has been a slow, excruciating screw.

Unfortunately, K-Y is not covered by Ocare.

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We are screwed folks. There is no way in hell this is going to work. They are crashing the system and they are doing it on purpose.
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This has been a slow, excruciating screw.

Unfortunately, K-Y is not covered by Ocare.
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