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Ron Paul: Why every American should now be concerned with immigration "reform"

 
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Whenever the federal government decides to reform something, we can be fairly sure the problem is about to get worse, especially if they call the plan bi-partisan. The bi-partisan immigration reform proposal launched last week in the U.S. Senate will be no different.

The new plan, introduced by Sens. McCain and Schumer, would provide a path to citizenship for many of those in the United States illegally. This would only begin after the borders are deemed secure and applicants have paid fees for their illegal entry. They must also pay back taxes on their earnings while working here without government permission. Those on a path to citizenship would be subject to background checks and would be monitored while in the U.S.

The devil is in the details, and the details of the McCain plan are deeply disturbing. To secure the borders, he is calling for a massive increase in drones flying over U.S. territory, spying on U.S. citizens along the border – and presumably within the 100 mile "border zone" over which the Department of Homeland Security claims jurisdiction.

What if these drones detect suspicious activity unrelated to illegal immigration? Imagine the implications for the federal government's disastrous war on drugs. Imagine what's left of the Fourth Amendment completely tossed into the trashcan.

The "privatized" prison system in the U.S. that now benefits from the war on drugs and illegal immigration will no doubt look forward to booming business thanks to the army of drones overhead.

Additionally, the McCain/Schumer plan calls for a nationwide...

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He would have been great as President.

Thank you Dr. Paul
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Oh my! Paying back taxes when working illegally, to become legal. I'll stay underground, thank you very much.
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RP needs to take his wrinkly-assed, uni-browed, disrespecting self off to a creaky rocking chair and talk to his dog, or the rug and retire already. Freaking looney-toon, wackadoo, hating old lizard that he is.
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RP needs to take his wrinkly-assed, uni-browed, disrespecting self off to a creaky rocking chair and talk to his dog, or the rug and retire already. Freaking looney-toon, wackadoo, hating old lizard that he is.
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Oh my! Paying back taxes when working illegally, to become legal. I'll stay underground, thank you very much.
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Oh come on, you can claim racism and then live the rest of your life on welfare and don't pay shit. Social justice you know.
"White privilege" is the liberal religion's version of Original Sin: you are born guilty, and you carry that burden of guilt all your life, and the only way to escape eternal damnation is for white people confess their sin, to bow, kneel and believe the dogma of the Church of Liberalism, genuflect at its altars, honor its saints, fill the collection plate, and never, ever doubt.

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RP needs to take his wrinkly-assed, uni-browed, disrespecting self off to a creaky rocking chair and talk to his dog, or the rug and retire already. Freaking looney-toon, wackadoo, hating old lizard that he is.
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Somebody wants to give back a part of America to Mexico.
"White privilege" is the liberal religion's version of Original Sin: you are born guilty, and you carry that burden of guilt all your life, and the only way to escape eternal damnation is for white people confess their sin, to bow, kneel and believe the dogma of the Church of Liberalism, genuflect at its altars, honor its saints, fill the collection plate, and never, ever doubt.

-- Dixon Diaz
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Ron Paul is awesome
too bad there are no men like this anymore
99 percent of our politicians are just yes man drones...
most people of oblivious to what is happening around them.... they just care about porn, booze, tv etc....

people are generally lazy and stupid.......

RON PAUL is a wise man---- A true patriot to the Republic.
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RP needs to take his wrinkly-assed, uni-browed, disrespecting self off to a creaky rocking chair and talk to his dog, or the rug and retire already. Freaking looney-toon, wackadoo, hating old lizard that he is.
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Somebody wants to give back a part of America to Mexico.
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what do you expect from california illegal girl?
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RP needs to take his wrinkly-assed, uni-browed, disrespecting self off to a creaky rocking chair and talk to his dog, or the rug and retire already. Freaking looney-toon, wackadoo, hating old lizard that he is.
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Somebody wants to give back a part of America to Mexico.
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No I don't. But he's a nut and I'm not afraid to say so. I have high hopes for Rand, but RP needs a time out.
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Oh my! Paying back taxes when working illegally, to become legal. I'll stay underground, thank you very much.
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Oh come on, you can claim racism and then live the rest of your life on welfare and don't pay shit. Social justice you know.
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Oh really? I'll look into that.







Nope, it's just propaganda. Deportation waits when coming out of shadows...
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No I don't. But he's a nut and I'm not afraid to say so. I have high hopes for Rand, but RP needs a time out.
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Be honest with us, you a beaner?
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RP needs to take his wrinkly-assed, uni-browed, disrespecting self off to a creaky rocking chair and talk to his dog, or the rug and retire already. Freaking looney-toon, wackadoo, hating old lizard that he is.
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Somebody wants to give back a part of America to Mexico.
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No I don't. But he's a nut and I'm not afraid to say so. I have high hopes for Rand, but RP needs a time out.
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Rand, you mean the Zionist butt boy? You can have hopes that he may send you to die on the desert for Israel if he gets any political power. That's pretty much it.
"White privilege" is the liberal religion's version of Original Sin: you are born guilty, and you carry that burden of guilt all your life, and the only way to escape eternal damnation is for white people confess their sin, to bow, kneel and believe the dogma of the Church of Liberalism, genuflect at its altars, honor its saints, fill the collection plate, and never, ever doubt.

-- Dixon Diaz
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Oh my! Paying back taxes when working illegally, to become legal. I'll stay underground, thank you very much.
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Oh come on, you can claim racism and then live the rest of your life on welfare and don't pay shit. Social justice you know.
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Oh really? I'll look into that.







Nope, it's just propaganda. Deportation waits when coming out of shadows...
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In anti-white Obama's kingdom? nope, that'd be raciss.

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"White privilege" is the liberal religion's version of Original Sin: you are born guilty, and you carry that burden of guilt all your life, and the only way to escape eternal damnation is for white people confess their sin, to bow, kneel and believe the dogma of the Church of Liberalism, genuflect at its altars, honor its saints, fill the collection plate, and never, ever doubt.

-- Dixon Diaz
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Oh my! Paying back taxes when working illegally, to become legal. I'll stay underground, thank you very much.
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Oh come on, you can claim racism and then live the rest of your life on welfare and don't pay shit. Social justice you know.
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Oh really? I'll look into that.







Nope, it's just propaganda. Deportation waits when coming out of shadows...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32967202


In anti-white Obama's kingdom? nope, that'd be raciss.
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You know shit about it.
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One way or another they plan on adding 100+ million people to North America over the next 40 years. These won't be Mexicans (since they're already in North America.)

Chinese, Indians, etc.

Our continent is the least crowded...
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RP needs to take his wrinkly-assed, uni-browed, disrespecting self off to a creaky rocking chair and talk to his dog, or the rug and retire already. Freaking looney-toon, wackadoo, hating old lizard that he is.
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1) How is he wrong?

2) What has he said that wasn't true?

3) You call him whacky and then claim he is a lizard?...Irony?
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RP needs to take his wrinkly-assed, uni-browed, disrespecting self off to a creaky rocking chair and talk to his dog, or the rug and retire already. Freaking looney-toon, wackadoo, hating old lizard that he is.
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$4hiding
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mabie 6 bucks
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Oh come on, you can claim racism and then live the rest of your life on welfare and don't pay shit. Social justice you know.
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Oh really? I'll look into that.







Nope, it's just propaganda. Deportation waits when coming out of shadows...
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In anti-white Obama's kingdom? nope, that'd be raciss.
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You know shit about it.
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In any case just take a pic of your little brown children and accuse some white supremacists of commiting a hate crime against them and you will be on the media being given an honorary Obama citizenship in no time.
"White privilege" is the liberal religion's version of Original Sin: you are born guilty, and you carry that burden of guilt all your life, and the only way to escape eternal damnation is for white people confess their sin, to bow, kneel and believe the dogma of the Church of Liberalism, genuflect at its altars, honor its saints, fill the collection plate, and never, ever doubt.

-- Dixon Diaz
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RP needs to take his wrinkly-assed, uni-browed, disrespecting self off to a creaky rocking chair and talk to his dog, or the rug and retire already. Freaking looney-toon, wackadoo, hating old lizard that he is.
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You're an idiot.
And the LORD spake, saying, "First shalt thou take out the Holy Pin, then shalt thou count to three, no more, no less. Three shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the third number, be reached, then lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards thy foe, who being naughty in My sight, shall snuff it." Amen.
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RP needs to take his wrinkly-assed, uni-browed, disrespecting self off to a creaky rocking chair and talk to his dog, or the rug and retire already. Freaking looney-toon, wackadoo, hating old lizard that he is.
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You're an idiot.
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Understatement of the year!
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Drones tracking people and a back tax for untold years. Sound like slavery to me. Don't leave the reservation and keep working to pay off your tax or you'll be sorry!


On a related note, I was recently admonished for my opposition to this "reform" by someone who thought themselves better. So, I wrote a response. The WWJD argument for Immigration Reform: [link to line-in-the-sand.blogspot.com]
"God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always, well informed... If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty... Let them take arms... What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. " - Thomas Jefferson in 1787
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RP needs to take his wrinkly-assed, uni-browed, disrespecting self off to a creaky rocking chair and talk to his dog, or the rug and retire already. Freaking looney-toon, wackadoo, hating old lizard that he is.
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Somebody wants to give back a part of America to Mexico.
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what do you expect from california illegal girl?
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lol. Just because I'm from California doesn't mean that I'm Hispanic (I'm not). On my mothers side, my grandmothers great aunts emigrated from France. They started a milliner shop in Hannibal Missouri and knew Samuel Clemens (Mark Twain). My father's side emigrated from England to the Massachusetts Bay Colony in 1638. Needless to say, I'm against illegal immigration.

I also tend to think RP is about as useful as a one-legged kicker at the Super Bowl.

There are ways to solve this that would succeed and, taking the advice of RP isn't one of them.
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RP needs to take his wrinkly-assed, uni-browed, disrespecting self off to a creaky rocking chair and talk to his dog, or the rug and retire already. Freaking looney-toon, wackadoo, hating old lizard that he is.
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You're an idiot.
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Understatement of the year!
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I'm still warming up. :)
And the LORD spake, saying, "First shalt thou take out the Holy Pin, then shalt thou count to three, no more, no less. Three shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the third number, be reached, then lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards thy foe, who being naughty in My sight, shall snuff it." Amen.
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RP needs to take his wrinkly-assed, uni-browed, disrespecting self off to a creaky rocking chair and talk to his dog, or the rug and retire already. Freaking looney-toon, wackadoo, hating old lizard that he is.
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You're an idiot.
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Understatement of the year!
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I'm still warming up. :)
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scheming
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Oh really? I'll look into that.







Nope, it's just propaganda. Deportation waits when coming out of shadows...
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In anti-white Obama's kingdom? nope, that'd be raciss.
 Quoting: Manu-Koelbren


You know shit about it.
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In any case just take a pic of your little brown children and accuse some white supremacists of commiting a hate crime against them and you will be on the media being given an honorary Obama citizenship in no time.
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Again, you know shit about it. You're a mouthpiece for disinformation. Luckily I never listened to idiots like you. I prod along staying in the shadows, building a nice nest egg for business in Mexico to support my family. Not interested in risking everything, and paying IRS back taxes, on a bogus chance of being legit.
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RP needs to take his wrinkly-assed, uni-browed, disrespecting self off to a creaky rocking chair and talk to his dog, or the rug and retire already. Freaking looney-toon, wackadoo, hating old lizard that he is.
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Somebody wants to give back a part of America to Mexico.
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what do you expect from california illegal girl?
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lol. Just because I'm from California doesn't mean that I'm Hispanic (I'm not). On my mothers side, my grandmothers great aunts emigrated from France. They started a milliner shop in Hannibal Missouri and knew Samuel Clemens (Mark Twain). My father's side emigrated from England to the Massachusetts Bay Colony in 1638. Needless to say, I'm against illegal immigration.

I also tend to think RP is about as useful as a one-legged kicker at the Super Bowl.

There are ways to solve this that would succeed and, taking the advice of RP isn't one of them.
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Just because you say so? You haven't provided any argument regarding his points.
"White privilege" is the liberal religion's version of Original Sin: you are born guilty, and you carry that burden of guilt all your life, and the only way to escape eternal damnation is for white people confess their sin, to bow, kneel and believe the dogma of the Church of Liberalism, genuflect at its altars, honor its saints, fill the collection plate, and never, ever doubt.

-- Dixon Diaz
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Is a citizen the property of the government or is the citizen a member in a voluntary member of a community?
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In anti-white Obama's kingdom? nope, that'd be raciss.
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You know shit about it.
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In any case just take a pic of your little brown children and accuse some white supremacists of commiting a hate crime against them and you will be on the media being given an honorary Obama citizenship in no time.
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Again, you know shit about it. You're a mouthpiece for disinformation. Luckily I never listened to idiots like you. I prod along staying in the shadows, building a nice nest egg for business in Mexico to support my family. Not interested in risking everything, and paying IRS back taxes, on a bogus chance of being legit.
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I am joking pal.
"White privilege" is the liberal religion's version of Original Sin: you are born guilty, and you carry that burden of guilt all your life, and the only way to escape eternal damnation is for white people confess their sin, to bow, kneel and believe the dogma of the Church of Liberalism, genuflect at its altars, honor its saints, fill the collection plate, and never, ever doubt.

-- Dixon Diaz
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Drones? How about no.
This is an oubliette. The labyrinth is full of 'em.
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