IRANS NEW JET A TOTAL FAKE..SURPRISE. SURPRISE. | |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 2913820 02/05/2013 08:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | DETAILED BREAKDOWN [link to theaviationist.com] some of the images u can see the fibreglass cockpit lol |
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Chip![]() Forum Moderator User ID: 22480895 02/05/2013 08:56 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP, you have never heard of Sun Tse? Be careful. I have taught Iranians at PG level and can confirm there are some very, very smart people in Iran. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33087511 Apparently those 4 weren't involved in this super stealth top secret photo op!!! Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. ~Arthur C. Clarke Don't go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you nothing. It was here first. ~Mark Twain |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 33087511 02/05/2013 09:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP, you have never heard of Sun Tse? Be careful. I have taught Iranians at PG level and can confirm there are some very, very smart people in Iran. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33087511 Apparently those 4 weren't involved in this super stealth top secret photo op!!! Ha ha Chip, nice one! But my point still stands. They would never allow their real project such exposure. rememeber what they did with the captured drone? Same, same, but different. FFS they just put a monkey up and brought it back. When you are strong appear weak, no? |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 33780224 02/06/2013 04:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | But really, whos consumption is this for anyway? I suspect not ours, but rather the Iranian people.. I could quell a bit of unease and unrest if you are thought to have some super duper weapons and means to deliver them.. Not to mention bolster the confidence of the forces already in play, nothing helps bolster confidence more than thinking you have superior weapons supporting you.. Just my thoughts... sorry to rain on anyones parade *thumbs up* |
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| MHz User ID: 32332417 02/06/2013 07:13 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Say it was production size, how much explosives could it carry at full throttle 10's of feet off the desert floor and running a pre-programed flight that is only minutes old from real-time? Let off as an ied while flying upside down when it reaches it's target. Enough of the model is shown that an engine type and weight could be used to determine balance point. As for performance having the big wing close to the jet nozzle eliminates the need for the vector thrust hardware thing and all it's complexity as the canard wing is plenty fast enough for h-g turns. True or not? Last Edited by MHz on 02/06/2013 07:17 PM |
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| MHz User ID: 32332417 02/06/2013 07:22 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Use the 1 1/2 hole rule, there is no such thing as 1/2 a hole. They don't need any upgrades to combat aircraft, that they don't have refueling spots means they patrol the local and and sea areas rather than gallivanting around in other nations. It would be able to fly under the patriot and iron dome radar would it not? Put all the noise skyward and shortcuts across mountain ranges would go unnoticed. Last Edited by MHz on 02/06/2013 07:25 PM |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 33832742 02/06/2013 07:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Numerous professional pilots and engineers have pointed out that a Boeing 757 couldn't possibly have executed the aerial maneuvers required to carry out the attack on the Pentagon without breaking apart in midair, but that doesn't mean it didn't happen! or, um... |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 26238410 02/06/2013 07:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Use the 1 1/2 hole rule, there is no such thing as 1/2 a hole. Quoting: MHz They don't need any upgrades to combat aircraft, that they don't have refueling spots means they patrol the local and and sea areas rather than gallivanting around in other nations. It would be able to fly under the patriot and iron dome radar would it not? Put all the noise skyward and shortcuts across mountain ranges would go unnoticed. Patrol...? This is a manned cruise missile, where life is cheaper than tech. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 33832742 02/06/2013 07:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | who really thought a bankrupt islamofacist country would have a 5th generation fighter? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16648993 Why not? Our bankrupt judeofascist nation has them. Of course, they can't fly, but we still have them. F-35Bs grounded after engine problem discovered [link to www.nwfdailynews.com] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 26238410 02/06/2013 07:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Numerous professional pilots and engineers have pointed out that a Boeing 757 couldn't possibly have executed the aerial maneuvers required to carry out the attack on the Pentagon without breaking apart in midair, but that doesn't mean it didn't happen! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33832742 or, um... Find more credible sources. |
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Desert Fox (OP)Forum Moderator User ID: 8786935 02/06/2013 10:55 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | But really, whos consumption is this for anyway? I suspect not ours, but rather the Iranian people.. I could quell a bit of unease and unrest if you are thought to have some super duper weapons and means to deliver them.. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33780224 Not to mention bolster the confidence of the forces already in play, nothing helps bolster confidence more than thinking you have superior weapons supporting you.. Just my thoughts... sorry to rain on anyones parade *thumbs up* Pretty much on point, plus they thought by an off chance to fool the world with the fake. ![]() |
Desert Fox (OP)Forum Moderator User ID: 8786935 02/06/2013 10:57 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Say it was production size, how much explosives could it carry at full throttle 10's of feet off the desert floor and running a pre-programed flight that is only minutes old from real-time? Let off as an ied while flying upside down when it reaches it's target. Quoting: MHz Enough of the model is shown that an engine type and weight could be used to determine balance point. As for performance having the big wing close to the jet nozzle eliminates the need for the vector thrust hardware thing and all it's complexity as the canard wing is plenty fast enough for h-g turns. True or not? Not. ![]() |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 16689814 02/07/2013 01:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | damn I wish I could recorded from the Iranian satellite tv news channel I saw on a friends house. there was a short clip showing the ghaher F-133 moving in runway and taking off it some observers in Iranian military outfit watching it taxing. Maybe of hoping someone post it to liveleak or youtube if the were lucky to record it. Damn it was a surprised to me. So then the jet being a fake is pure BS just like BS MSM and shills said about the rq drone footage shown by Iran. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 33366952 02/07/2013 01:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What a shock. A bunch of 80's IQ Iranians living under a 7th Century Theocratic rule is incapable of making advanced stealth fighters. Let alone develop the piloting skills and strategic and tactical acumen in order to properly fight a modern war. These camel jockeys will get shot out the sky. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 16689814 02/07/2013 03:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | IRIAF (Iranian airforce acronym for the idiot sheeples who do not know what it means) according to local Iranian news placed an initial order of 20 of these babies for a one new attack squadron to be delivered to them. This may take a few years if it follows the usual procedure by Iran. When Iranian air-force placed an order of 30 Iranian saeqeh fighters several years ago. It took a few years for 12 of them to be delivered to the airforce to make one fighter and close support attack squadron that is based on Attack base-1 in Tehran. Also at first few footage of the saeqeh were shown until 3 prototypes took part in a war game a year or 2 later and not much until 12 were delivered to IRIAF. Anyway if they follow the same routine then when IRIAF placed order for 20 qaher then it would take a a few years for the order to be made and more info will only shown when it is ready and delivered to IRIAF. So if IRIAF got 12 out of 30 for saeqeh, I assume getting 20 of this maybe a bet too much and maybe 6 to 12 will be delivered to them a few years from now. Who knows maybe Iran has changed tactics. |
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