Grass Fed Beef is the healthiest food on the planet, Vegetarians are insane and danger to anyone who buys into their misinformed propaganda | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 12966144 United States 02/05/2013 09:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Grass Fed Beef is the healthiest food on the planet, Vegetarians are insane and danger to anyone who buys into their misinformed propaganda It tastes better too. I used to live near a farmers market where I would buy chicken, beef from a local farmer who grass fed, and I couldn't believe the difference when I first ate it. I can't describe the taste difference but only to say it was much better. Also the chicken breasts were smaller and more flavorful, not like the super pumped-up, tasteless chicken breasts you find in the local groceries. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 30175543 Ireland 02/05/2013 09:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Grass Fed Beef is the healthiest food on the planet, Vegetarians are insane and danger to anyone who buys into their misinformed propaganda The human system isnt really that built to handle animal protein as it works very hard on the kidneys. Also, we do not have the proper acids in our stomach to break it down, thereby meaning meat takes a very long time to digest. That being said, I am technically not a vegan as I will eat raw honey and bee pollen and will admit grass fed butter can be a nutritious food source, but for me both coconut and chia seed oil works more than fine in providing the healthy fats for my body. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 31557420 United States 02/05/2013 09:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Grass Fed Beef is the healthiest food on the planet, Vegetarians are insane and danger to anyone who buys into their misinformed propaganda Beef contains more AGEs than anything else I am aware of. Especially chargrilled... Would I give it to my kid to grow up big and strong? Absolutely. Great product for that. Would I consume it as an adult trying to be 'healthy' ie, delay aging and offset disease? Absolutely not. And no, I won't be 'debating' you. I doubt you even know what the fuck I am talking about. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1093451 United States 02/05/2013 10:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Grass Fed Beef is the healthiest food on the planet, Vegetarians are insane and danger to anyone who buys into their misinformed propaganda The human system isnt really that built to handle animal protein as it works very hard on the kidneys. Also, we do not have the proper acids in our stomach to break it down, thereby meaning meat takes a very long time to digest. That being said, I am technically not a vegan as I will eat raw honey and bee pollen and will admit grass fed butter can be a nutritious food source, but for me both coconut and chia seed oil works more than fine in providing the healthy fats for my body. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30175543 here's a good example of a delusional person who is talking out his ass and has no facts to back up this bs. idiots like this don't even know the difference between grass fed beef and naturally raised meats compared to factory farmed meats |
chowan User ID: 33772885 United States 02/05/2013 10:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Grass Fed Beef is the healthiest food on the planet, Vegetarians are insane and danger to anyone who buys into their misinformed propaganda so why do vegetarians live longer and healthier lives than meat eaters in every species Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33759161 on earth? i dont know where you are getting your imformation? but a saltwater croc sure doesnt nibble lettuce. you have been braiwashed by the Hunza fraud which has been proved to be BS. sheell be right mate |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 25898128 United States 02/05/2013 10:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Grass Fed Beef is the healthiest food on the planet, Vegetarians are insane and danger to anyone who buys into their misinformed propaganda The general consensus i've reached is that humans might be omnivores but our ancestors ate a lot more plants than animal flesh. We aren't meant to eat primarily meat, we need more veggies and legumes. |
Lingweenie User ID: 26770463 United States 02/05/2013 10:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Grass Fed Beef is the healthiest food on the planet, Vegetarians are insane and danger to anyone who buys into their misinformed propaganda Good thing about beef, is that it's a great source of protein, which is pretty vital, your body is filled with proteins. And someone on a all veggie diet, doesn't get much protein. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 31557420 United States 02/05/2013 10:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Grass Fed Beef is the healthiest food on the planet, Vegetarians are insane and danger to anyone who buys into their misinformed propaganda The human system isnt really that built to handle animal protein as it works very hard on the kidneys. Also, we do not have the proper acids in our stomach to break it down, thereby meaning meat takes a very long time to digest. That being said, I am technically not a vegan as I will eat raw honey and bee pollen and will admit grass fed butter can be a nutritious food source, but for me both coconut and chia seed oil works more than fine in providing the healthy fats for my body. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30175543 here's a good example of a delusional person who is talking out his ass and has no facts to back up this bs. idiots like this don't even know the difference between grass fed beef and naturally raised meats compared to factory farmed meats I do. And both are inflammatory. Do I need to run down the list of causes of aging for you? But keep eating your beef. I really don't give a shit. Just don't tell me what 'facts' are. FYI there is no better complete protein for developing muscle than beef. So if you are a body builder, I would look to it. But you really should look to a product like carnivore or whatever it is called if you care about your health. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1093451 United States 02/05/2013 10:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Grass Fed Beef is the healthiest food on the planet, Vegetarians are insane and danger to anyone who buys into their misinformed propaganda Beef contains more AGEs than anything else I am aware of. Especially chargrilled... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31557420 Would I give it to my kid to grow up big and strong? Absolutely. Great product for that. Would I consume it as an adult trying to be 'healthy' ie, delay aging and offset disease? Absolutely not. And no, I won't be 'debating' you. I doubt you even know what the fuck I am talking about. age's in grass fed beef danger to your health? post some supporting facts or f off |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 31557420 United States 02/05/2013 10:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Grass Fed Beef is the healthiest food on the planet, Vegetarians are insane and danger to anyone who buys into their misinformed propaganda Beef contains more AGEs than anything else I am aware of. Especially chargrilled... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31557420 Would I give it to my kid to grow up big and strong? Absolutely. Great product for that. Would I consume it as an adult trying to be 'healthy' ie, delay aging and offset disease? Absolutely not. And no, I won't be 'debating' you. I doubt you even know what the fuck I am talking about. age's in grass fed beef danger to your health? post some supporting facts or f off |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 30323276 United States 02/05/2013 10:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Grass Fed Beef is the healthiest food on the planet, Vegetarians are insane and danger to anyone who buys into their misinformed propaganda Recently bought my first grass-fed beef @ $2.60/lb for an assortment of cuts... steaks, roasts, ground, stew, etc. It tastes so much better, doubt I'll be able to use grocery store beef ever again. Once you try grass-fed, it makes you realize how nasty commercial beef really is. Especially the ground beef, there's no horrible aftertaste and it doesn't make your breath smell like feces. A grass-fed beef roast cooking in the crockpot, smells nothing like the store beef. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 25283023 Canada 02/05/2013 10:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Grass Fed Beef is the healthiest food on the planet, Vegetarians are insane and danger to anyone who buys into their misinformed propaganda Alas, grass fed beef is 2nd in health...2nd to bison that is!!! (bison is buffalo for the amerikans out there). Both are great. the 3rd tastiest, I've been told, is a city dweller reared on organic vegan food. Richhippy meat is said to be delicious. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1093451 United States 02/05/2013 10:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Grass Fed Beef is the healthiest food on the planet, Vegetarians are insane and danger to anyone who buys into their misinformed propaganda The human system isnt really that built to handle animal protein as it works very hard on the kidneys. Also, we do not have the proper acids in our stomach to break it down, thereby meaning meat takes a very long time to digest. That being said, I am technically not a vegan as I will eat raw honey and bee pollen and will admit grass fed butter can be a nutritious food source, but for me both coconut and chia seed oil works more than fine in providing the healthy fats for my body. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30175543 here's a good example of a delusional person who is talking out his ass and has no facts to back up this bs. idiots like this don't even know the difference between grass fed beef and naturally raised meats compared to factory farmed meats I do. And both are inflammatory. Do I need to run down the list of causes of aging for you? But keep eating your beef. I really don't give a shit. Just don't tell me what 'facts' are. FYI there is no better complete protein for developing muscle than beef. So if you are a body builder, I would look to it. But you really should look to a product like carnivore or whatever it is called if you care about your health. you don't even understand the difference between factory farmed beef and grass fed beef, the fat is different in the grass fed then it is in the factory beef, do you understand that? it's real simple. grass fed has less pro-inflammatory Omega-6 fatty acids and more anti-inflammatory Omega-3 fatty acids then factory beef. understand ? Health & Wellness, Nutrition THE BASICS ON GRASS FED MEAT Frank LipmanMarch 10 Although I am not necessarily encouraging anyone to eat meat (it is a personal choice), if you do eat meat, please read this. Like most of the goods in this country, our meat, poultry, eggs, and dairy products are now being mass produced. Today, most commercially available meats are factory farmed because it’s fast, convenient and more profitable. And if you are a meat eater, eating organic animal products is always better than eating regular, mass produced, factory-farmed feedlot animals. Unfortunately, even organic products can be from animals that are raised in confinement and fed grains. On the plus side, at least the feed doesn’t contain cost saving restaurant waste, animal byproducts, municipal garbage, bubble gum and poultry manure as it does in regular feedlots. Switching from natural diet of grasses to grains: Originally all cattle were grass-fed, which is what they were meant to eat–grasses and shrubs. Grazing animals such as cows, sheep, goats and bison possess a rumen, or a second stomach, which is like a fermentation tank. In this rumen, normal bacteria convert grasses, shrubs and plants into protein and fats. When you feed these “ruminants” grains, all sorts of problems occur. In particular, it makes their digestive tracts acidic and they develop “sub acute acidosis.” This results in the animals experiencing diarrhea and excessive salivation. The animals may also kick at their bellies, eat dirt and go off their feed. We also know that this acidic environment encourages the development of E. coli bacteria. This is why feedlot animals need to be given constant antibiotics and is one of the reasons why humans experience problematic bacteria resistant to antibiotics. Switching ruminants from their natural diet of grasses to grains also lowers their nutritional value (see benefits of Grass-Fed Meats).When you choose grass-fed beef, lamb, bison or poultry, you’re eating nutritious and healthy meats, as nature intended. A good resource is [link to www.eatwild.com] Remember if it doesn’t say grass-fed, you can assume it’s grain-fed. The benefits of eating grass fed meat: Better for your health. No antibiotics, animal by-products, hormones or other drugs. Less fat (6-8 times less) and therefore fewer calories. Grass-fed beef often has the same amount of fat as skinless chicken breast. Less pro-inflammatory Omega-6 fatty acids. More anti-inflammatory Omega-3 fatty acids (2-5 times more than grain-fed cattle), because grass is high in Omega-3. More conjugated linoleic acid (CLA), another good fatty acid that reduces the risk of cancer, diabetes and obesity. The human body can’t produce CLA, but it can be obtained through foods such as whole milk, butter and beef. Studies show grass-fed cows have 500% more CLA in their milk than those that are fed silage. More vitamin E. Better for the environment. Less ground, air and water pollution. Better for the animals. More humane treatment of the animals. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1093451 United States 02/05/2013 10:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Grass Fed Beef is the healthiest food on the planet, Vegetarians are insane and danger to anyone who buys into their misinformed propaganda Fats can be the most nutrient rich part of your diet, or they can cause numerous diseases – depending on which fat we’re talking about. What an animal eats will change the kind of fat in its tissues. If an animal eats a suboptimal diet including grains and legumes, its fat loses much of its nutrient quality in surprisingly little time. The next study we cover in this series examines fats present in grass-fed meat besides omega-3′s and CLA, along with various nutrients stored in the meat and the fat. The last article in the series showed grass-fed meat has more omega-3’s and CLA than grain-fed meat. Both of those fats are beneficial, but there’s more. The new study in this article compared a broad spectrum of nutrients in grass-fed and grain-fed beef. It measured carotenoids, the total amount of fat, and the types of fat including: Omega-3 Omega-6 Cholesterol (this isn’t a fat, but its still important) Total Saturated Fat Conjugated Linoleic Acid (CLA) Trans-Vaccenic Acid (TVA)* *Trans-vaccenic acid is metabolized into conjugated linoleic acid, and performs similar functions. It can speed fat loss, fight cancer, and improve brain function. It is technically a naturally occurring “trans-fat” but it does not cause the same the negative health problems that margarine or hydrogenated fats do. [link to www.bulletproofexec.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 7881256 United States 02/05/2013 10:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Grass Fed Beef is the healthiest food on the planet, Vegetarians are insane and danger to anyone who buys into their misinformed propaganda oh man the guy who said bison is best.... i second you sir! damn what i would do for a nice bison grass fed shoulder right now. i got some wild turkey slow smoked in the fridge right now. i finished all my deer sausage last month. man that sausage was soo damn good, i had it rolled with sage and cayenne and salt and pepper. damn it was good!!!! i'm sure it's all about balance. most vegans i know are brittle folk, and most folk i know who eat nothing but meat have blood pressure problems. i say balance is the key. it's hard to get some grass fed stuff around here. lame |
ScarfNZ User ID: 31669436 New Zealand 02/05/2013 10:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Grass Fed Beef is the healthiest food on the planet, Vegetarians are insane and danger to anyone who buys into their misinformed propaganda Alas, grass fed beef is 2nd in health...2nd to bison that is!!! (bison is buffalo for the amerikans out there). Both are great. the 3rd tastiest, I've been told, is a city dweller reared on organic vegan food. Richhippy meat is said to be delicious. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25283023 Got 4 steers in the paddock - 2 Angus and 2 Murray Greys. All grass fed. Very much looking forward to eating them! |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1093451 United States 02/05/2013 10:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Grass Fed Beef is the healthiest food on the planet, Vegetarians are insane and danger to anyone who buys into their misinformed propaganda to that other dumbass dangerous glycolytic enzymes (AGE's) are only created when grilling meat at high temps and are far lower in grass fed beef then factory beef and there's a reason why grass fed beef is better for you then turkey, chicken or pork, because you slow cook it and eat it rare/medium rare ! |
Saddletramp User ID: 1052341 Puerto Rico 02/05/2013 10:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Grass Fed Beef is the healthiest food on the planet, Vegetarians are insane and danger to anyone who buys into their misinformed propaganda We raise our own beef on pasture, nothing beats it... "And how can a man die better than facing fearful odds, for the ashes of his fathers, and the temples of his Gods..." ~ Horatius "Because he told the truth, and once you've heard the truth, everything else is just cheap whiskey..." "We don't rent pigs!" |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1093451 United States 02/05/2013 10:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Grass Fed Beef is the healthiest food on the planet, Vegetarians are insane and danger to anyone who buys into their misinformed propaganda ."Use Grass-Fed Meat Sources: Grilling grain-fed meat causes more AGE's to form due to a higher sugar content within the meat. Grass-fed meat is lower in total fat than grain-fed meat. Cooking leaner meat reduces the PAH formation. Grass-fed meat also contains a significantly higher amount of healthy omega 3 fatty acids and conjugated linoleic acid." [link to www.naturalnews.com] |