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I would Rather Burn in Hell than Go To “Heaven”

 
Keep2theCode

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Fair enough.

But too many presume that "going through a process" means everyone must arrive at the same conclusions. Perhaps I've already been "going through" such things and have arrived at the truth. (I say perhaps just in conversation, not because I have any doubt.)
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There is 1 Gospel and that means the book has one single meaning, if you haven't verified that your reading time isn't over.

M't:24:14:
And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations;
and then shall the end come.
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Please note my bolded words above.
Have I now become your enemy by telling you the truth? (Gal. 4:16)
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I consider myself agnostic; I don't do the god thing... I have noticed that most athiests are just whiny little brats who crave attention. They spend most of their time doing things like this; posting on the Internet and trying to spread their message like a cult. They are all full of so much hate and anger. If you don't believe, that's fine! Just STFU and stop crying all the time. Most of these bratty athiests are the same type of people who would go occupy something because they want free shit. Same snotty attitude.
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All too true. I made a YT video where all I try to do is have a hypothetical atheist "sit on the witness stand", and they can't. The comments (and many negative votes) all prove the point: atheism can only defend itself by attacking others, primarily Christianity. An honest, logical, "free thinking" atheist would be an agnostic.

We could go on and on for several pages, as I believe we both know - truth is a very subjective term...

Truth to you and I, is based on experiential data, both through experiences and contemplation...The experiences and contemplation are vastly different, and would not arrive at the same conclusions...

Unless, of course we are reading the same book!!!
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We all, even atheists, eventually come to a point of "givens", of faith, and if honest, we acknowledge that it's inherently subjective. Yet we cannot completely get outside of ourselves; we use the very things we think are subjective in order to decide whether they are. For example, those who assert that the mind is an obstacle to enlightenment use their minds to come to this conclusion, and to tell others about it. They use persuasion with words while saying this activity is the problem. Maddening stuff, philosophy.
 Quoting: Keep2theCode


Yes it is...

It is also why a "one god" principle does not apply in this galaxy...Does not mean - there is not a prime source - It means there are many uniquely different leaves, inherrantly different from each other...

As there are no two fingerprints alike, there are no two paths the same...
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Then you almost certainly will. :(
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You might just get your wish.
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hell is separation from God.

maybe instead of looking around at what you think Christians are..try reading the Word for yourself and try finding a church that you feel comfortable in and fellowship with other like minded people.

it is true...a lot of people who proclaim to be Christians make it hard for someone who doesn't know the Lord to find his way to Him.

a personal relationship with Jesus...is personal. lol. the Holy Spirit will minister to you. if you are open to learning.

there are also very good sites on the web about what Christianity means and is. but like everything else on the web though..there are a lot of misinformed sites as well.

but i can assure you...you dont want to go to hell. and you dont want to be saved just so you dont go to hell.

i honor God for who He is...not what He's done. He created the universe..knows every thought of every man at all times. knows each grain of sand on every shore on earth. knows every molecule of every atom in the universe. if God never answered another prayer...these facts alone deserve my praise and worship.

add the fact that He not only listens to me..but loves and desires a relationship with me....and wow!! the creator of the universe actually cares about me! sometimes we try to imagine God. God is so much bigger then i can wrap my tiny brain around.

good luck to you Brother.
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Well said my friend.
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Remember that competition back in the Old Testament?

My God can light fires and yours can't?

Well, it was pretty cool when the one fire lit, but where are the miracles today? Today we go so far as to accept coincidences as miracles, but back then crazy shit happened.

Lets see some dude part a sea, or have a perfect healer actually doing some real healing.

These days, it is God against Science when it comes to the fire trick. I think we know the winner.

Speculation may say that since we are made in the image of God, perhaps we are gaining some of the powers of God as our species matures. Does that mean God gets a vacation?
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OP, people are people who make mistakes, their destiny is theirs alone, you on the other hand are responsible for yours. If there is actually a hell why would you want self inflicted torment? After all, all you have to deal with on earth is whiners, complainers, and negative people, but imagine that you would be tortured, plus hear the souls of the tormented, of theives, and murderers etc. and be in agony for eternity. Why would you ever wish that kind of bad on yourself on purpose? The point I am making here is even if we don't know what is on the other side, whether it is good or bad, why wish for the bad? Be very careful about what you wish for OP, you just might get it. Don't make yourself a martyer on purpose, even if it sucks right now for you, I assure you, It could always be worse.
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We all, even atheists, eventually come to a point of "givens", of faith, and if honest, we acknowledge that it's inherently subjective. Yet we cannot completely get outside of ourselves; we use the very things we think are subjective in order to decide whether they are. For example, those who assert that the mind is an obstacle to enlightenment use their minds to come to this conclusion, and to tell others about it. They use persuasion with words while saying this activity is the problem. Maddening stuff, philosophy.
 Quoting: Keep2theCode


Yes it is...

It is also why a "one god" principle does not apply in this galaxy...Does not mean - there is not a prime source - It means there are many uniquely different leaves, inherrantly different from each other...

As there are no two fingerprints alike, there are no two paths the same...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17551129


I disagree, of course, that "a one god principle does not apply in this galaxy"; there is no way to prove this is true. The reason philosophy can be maddening is because our intellectual faculties have limits. We can come up with all sorts of theories, from the simple to the elaborate, yet be wrong on every count.

Personally, I hold as a given that there must be a First Cause of everything, and that this First Cause would not create sentient beings without communicating with them in a way they can grasp. Humans use words; it is our primary defining characteristic along with ability to imagine abstract ideas. So I would expect the First Cause to use words.

Many more things flow from this point, so if someone starts with a different point, they will come to different conclusions, and the conclusions of others will appear nonsensical to them. This is the source of all kinds of arguments about who is enlightened and who is blind and who is going which way on what path.
Have I now become your enemy by telling you the truth? (Gal. 4:16)
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We all, even atheists, eventually come to a point of "givens", of faith, and if honest, we acknowledge that it's inherently subjective. Yet we cannot completely get outside of ourselves; we use the very things we think are subjective in order to decide whether they are. For example, those who assert that the mind is an obstacle to enlightenment use their minds to come to this conclusion, and to tell others about it. They use persuasion with words while saying this activity is the problem. Maddening stuff, philosophy.
 Quoting: Keep2theCode


Yes it is...

It is also why a "one god" principle does not apply in this galaxy...Does not mean - there is not a prime source - It means there are many uniquely different leaves, inherrantly different from each other...

As there are no two fingerprints alike, there are no two paths the same...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17551129


I disagree, of course, that "a one god principle does not apply in this galaxy"; there is no way to prove this is true. The reason philosophy can be maddening is because our intellectual faculties have limits. We can come up with all sorts of theories, from the simple to the elaborate, yet be wrong on every count.

Personally, I hold as a given that there must be a First Cause of everything, and that this First Cause would not create sentient beings without communicating with them in a way they can grasp. Humans use words; it is our primary defining characteristic along with ability to imagine abstract ideas. So I would expect the First Cause to use words.

Many more things flow from this point, so if someone starts with a different point, they will come to different conclusions, and the conclusions of others will appear nonsensical to them. This is the source of all kinds of arguments about who is enlightened and who is blind and who is going which way on what path.
 Quoting: Keep2theCode


See Bolded

There is the entire crux of the matter - there is no way to prove it to someone else, unless the person you are talking with, is on a certain path and can verify things...

So we each search for the "one", the one we have the most in common with...

This search, often leads to religious groups and texts for answers... Most people stop there, and are content, comfortable with their peer group... Inner search begins to wither, as group thought, consensus takes hold...

I can assure you, not that I expect you to agree - this is a spiritual cul de sac designed to catch those in an advancing state...

The players who introduced this, are not new to the game, they have been around for eons...

The premise laid out in the bible, is a false paradigm, in terms of where it try's to lead you spiritually... It however, can give you some very accurate information on how the game is run on this planet, when you can start viewing it with the clear eyes - of simply a control mechanism...

Your god does indeed communicate with you, but, in the galaxy, it is monotheism in a polytheistic environment...
The communication and direction I recieve would never be the same as yours... My source is different from yours...
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The irony is that the 90% of "Christians" that are narrow minded, bigoted, etc won't be in heaven; they'll be in hell, and you will be suffering with their narrow minded bigotry for all eternity. lol.
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If God is real, I would rather burn in hell than go to this so called "Heaven".

Why? Because 90% of Christians are narrow minded idiots, Bible thumpers, rednecks, hippies, new-age freaks or some other idiots.

I would rather burn in fire rather than living with a bunch of complete idiots/freaks in "Heaven" (The REAL Hell) for eternity
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Don't worry, you will. By the way, hell is not about burning. It is about suffering. Imagine the worst thing you could suffer here on Earth and multiply that by 1000. That is hell and that is what you will undergo for all eternity.
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Not according to this man - it's nothing more than a control mechanism. He says: Grow up!
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I disagree, of course, that "a one god principle does not apply in this galaxy"; there is no way to prove this is true. The reason philosophy can be maddening is because our intellectual faculties have limits. We can come up with all sorts of theories, from the simple to the elaborate, yet be wrong on every count.

Personally, I hold as a given that there must be a First Cause of everything, and that this First Cause would not create sentient beings without communicating with them in a way they can grasp. Humans use words; it is our primary defining characteristic along with ability to imagine abstract ideas. So I would expect the First Cause to use words.

Many more things flow from this point, so if someone starts with a different point, they will come to different conclusions, and the conclusions of others will appear nonsensical to them. This is the source of all kinds of arguments about who is enlightened and who is blind and who is going which way on what path.
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See Bolded

There is the entire crux of the matter - there is no way to prove it to someone else, unless the person you are talking with, is on a certain path and can verify things...

So we each search for the "one", the one we have the most in common with...

This search, often leads to religious groups and texts for answers... Most people stop there, and are content, comfortable with their peer group... Inner search begins to wither, as group thought, consensus takes hold...

I can assure you, not that I expect you to agree - this is a spiritual cul de sac designed to catch those in an advancing state...

The players who introduced this, are not new to the game, they have been around for eons...

The premise laid out in the bible, is a false paradigm, in terms of where it try's to lead you spiritually... It however, can give you some very accurate information on how the game is run on this planet, when you can start viewing it with the clear eyes - of simply a control mechanism...

Your god does indeed communicate with you, but, in the galaxy, it is monotheism in a polytheistic environment...
The communication and direction I recieve would never be the same as yours... My source is different from yours...
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Here again, you're proceeding from the assumption that you personally believe is true-- as am I. And as I mentioned, you see other paths as nonsensical or a "trap", because from your perspective that's how they appear. Yet you cannot say that your path is the right one, or that you are more or less advanced than someone else on a given path.

Thus, I do not accept that "religious groups and texts" are inherently or objectively at a dead end. Though of course as a disciple of Jesus I reject the fake religion that has replaced and usurped what He came to establish, but this is based upon what He himself said, which I understand by reading for myself and making decisions based upon what I feel is the best of the evidence and rationale. Jesus said "You will know the truth, and the truth will set you free", and, "I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life".

My faith is based upon the testimony of eyewitnesses to Jesus' life, death, and resurrection. The evidence used to come to this conclusion is no different from the way we ascertain any one-off event in history. To reject this fact of history would thus be to reject it all, and like the Zen Buddhists, give up entirely and say "Nothing is knowable". Understanding that we're dealing in probabilities here, I think that the probability of Jesus' resurrection is well above the line. It is God, not Satan or cunning human beings, "who introduced this", as no one saw it coming that God Himself would become one of his creatures, die for them, and rise again.

So though from your perspective you are sure that "the premise laid out in the bible is a false paradigm", from mine it makes perfect sense, and it has led me spiritually to the place where I have inner peace, outward hope, and eternal love. There is nothing any other path can offer me to surpass what I already have, and have yet to receive.
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If God is real, I would rather burn in hell than go to this so called "Heaven".

Why? Because 90% of Christians are narrow minded idiots, Bible thumpers, rednecks, hippies, new-age freaks or some other idiots.

I would rather burn in fire rather than living with a bunch of complete idiots/freaks in "Heaven" (The REAL Hell) for eternity
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Don't worry, you will. By the way, hell is not about burning. It is about suffering. Imagine the worst thing you could suffer here on Earth and multiply that by 1000. That is hell and that is what you will undergo for all eternity.
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Not according to this man - it's nothing more than a control mechanism. He says: Grow up!
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If God is real, I would rather burn in hell than go to this so called "Heaven".

Why? Because 90% of Christians are narrow minded idiots, Bible thumpers, rednecks, hippies, new-age freaks or some other idiots.

I would rather burn in fire rather than living with a bunch of complete idiots/freaks in "Heaven" (The REAL Hell) for eternity
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33794571


You may get your wish.

I always wondered why ANYONE would prefer eternal
seperation from God.

Most people would probably NOT like Heaven.

We will be praising GOD for all eternity for who
He is, and what He did for us.

If you don't like God now, unless God really does
a work on you (and He's turned around the most
corrupted men on earth),
you wouldn't like Heaven.

Once you've drawn your last breath, your decision
will be final:

LUKE 16
19 There was a certain rich man, which was clothed in purple and fine linen, and fared sumptuously every day:

20 And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores,

21 And desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man's table: moreover the dogs came and licked his sores.

22 And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried;

23 And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.

24 And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.

25 But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented.

26 And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence.

27 Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest send him to my father's house:

28 For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment.

29 Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them.

30 And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent.

31 And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.
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We don´t want you there either.
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LOL
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I disagree, of course, that "a one god principle does not apply in this galaxy"; there is no way to prove this is true. The reason philosophy can be maddening is because our intellectual faculties have limits. We can come up with all sorts of theories, from the simple to the elaborate, yet be wrong on every count.

Personally, I hold as a given that there must be a First Cause of everything, and that this First Cause would not create sentient beings without communicating with them in a way they can grasp. Humans use words; it is our primary defining characteristic along with ability to imagine abstract ideas. So I would expect the First Cause to use words.

Many more things flow from this point, so if someone starts with a different point, they will come to different conclusions, and the conclusions of others will appear nonsensical to them. This is the source of all kinds of arguments about who is enlightened and who is blind and who is going which way on what path.
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See Bolded

There is the entire crux of the matter - there is no way to prove it to someone else, unless the person you are talking with, is on a certain path and can verify things...

So we each search for the "one", the one we have the most in common with...

This search, often leads to religious groups and texts for answers... Most people stop there, and are content, comfortable with their peer group... Inner search begins to wither, as group thought, consensus takes hold...

I can assure you, not that I expect you to agree - this is a spiritual cul de sac designed to catch those in an advancing state...

The players who introduced this, are not new to the game, they have been around for eons...

The premise laid out in the bible, is a false paradigm, in terms of where it try's to lead you spiritually... It however, can give you some very accurate information on how the game is run on this planet, when you can start viewing it with the clear eyes - of simply a control mechanism...

Your god does indeed communicate with you, but, in the galaxy, it is monotheism in a polytheistic environment...
The communication and direction I recieve would never be the same as yours... My source is different from yours...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17551129

Here again, you're proceeding from the assumption that you personally believe is true-- as am I. And as I mentioned, you see other paths as nonsensical or a "trap", because from your perspective that's how they appear. Yet you cannot say that your path is the right one, or that you are more or less advanced than someone else on a given path.

Thus, I do not accept that "religious groups and texts" are inherently or objectively at a dead end. Though of course as a disciple of Jesus I reject the fake religion that has replaced and usurped what He came to establish, but this is based upon what He himself said, which I understand by reading for myself and making decisions based upon what I feel is the best of the evidence and rationale. Jesus said "You will know the truth, and the truth will set you free", and, "I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life".

My faith is based upon the testimony of eyewitnesses to Jesus' life, death, and resurrection. The evidence used to come to this conclusion is no different from the way we ascertain any one-off event in history. To reject this fact of history would thus be to reject it all, and like the Zen Buddhists, give up entirely and say "Nothing is knowable". Understanding that we're dealing in probabilities here, I think that the probability of Jesus' resurrection is well above the line. It is God, not Satan or cunning human beings, "who introduced this", as no one saw it coming that God Himself would become one of his creatures, die for them, and rise again.

So though from your perspective you are sure that "the premise laid out in the bible is a false paradigm", from mine it makes perfect sense, and it has led me spiritually to the place where I have inner peace, outward hope, and eternal love. There is nothing any other path can offer me to surpass what I already have, and have yet to receive.
 Quoting: Keep2theCode


I will agaain direct you to my statement - "monotheism in a polytheistic environment"...

I make a direct comment about religious texts, because my statements are truth for me... I do not expect anyone to see it the way I do...

Just an example:

You see the jesus death on the cross, as a sacrifice for sins, a debt paid...

I see, and have proven it out - the symbol of the cross, is that of horizontal and vertical integration, a financial mechanism of wholesale and retail combining to become one and ready for redemption... The body on the cross, signifies the length of time, the funds will be held in your name waiting for redemption - 7 years... After that, is the second death, and no recovery...

I do not expect you to understand what I just said, it is not your path... It is monotheism in a polytheistic environment... I get what is right for me, at this time...

Does not mean my path is superior - it does mean it is different...
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If God is real, I would rather burn in hell than go to this so called "Heaven".

Why? Because 90% of Christians are narrow minded idiots, Bible thumpers, rednecks, hippies, new-age freaks or some other idiots.

I would rather burn in fire rather than living with a bunch of complete idiots/freaks in "Heaven" (The REAL Hell) for eternity
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Don't worry, you will. By the way, hell is not about burning. It is about suffering. Imagine the worst thing you could suffer here on Earth and multiply that by 1000. That is hell and that is what you will undergo for all eternity.
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How very Christian of you.

Hypocrite.
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I believe in God but that's ^ reason I don't believe in the Christian religion. Having people suffer for eternity, and even more so letting them be born knowing how they would end up and having the power to annihilate them (all powerful) is just sick. I wouldn't wish that on anybody.
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We don´t want you there either.
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LOL
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Getting beaten and nailed to some sticks two thousands years before I was born, leaving behind no evidence but a threat of ever lasting torment if I don't believe in a book that has been provably manipulated and edited throughout the centuries is the best that god could do?
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No, the Words spoken while alive are of importance.
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Babble.
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See what I mean? You had to be such an unbeliever that out of ALL religions, you choose Christianity to bash. Looks like Albert Pike was right huh? Let this be a sign.
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They bash Christians for the same reason when they want to make a powerful point they take the Name of the Lord in vain.

You never hear anyone say ... Oh Krishna... Blah Blah Buddha... MF mohhamad. There's NO POWER there.

Even in their subconscious ... they truly know the Truth, they just choose not to face it.
But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
I Corinthians 2:14

God doesn't choose favorites.. They choose HIM

It is not the greatness of my faith that moves mountains but my faith in the greatness of God
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I will agaain direct you to my statement - "monotheism in a polytheistic environment"...

I make a direct comment about religious texts, because my statements are truth for me... I do not expect anyone to see it the way I do...

Just an example:

You see the jesus death on the cross, as a sacrifice for sins, a debt paid...

I see, and have proven it out - the symbol of the cross, is that of horizontal and vertical integration, a financial mechanism of wholesale and retail combining to become one and ready for redemption... The body on the cross, signifies the length of time, the funds will be held in your name waiting for redemption - 7 years... After that, is the second death, and no recovery...

I do not expect you to understand what I just said, it is not your path... It is monotheism in a polytheistic environment... I get what is right for me, at this time...

Does not mean my path is superior - it does mean it is different...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17551129


I understand what you said; I just disagree with it. We could make up just about anything we want to symbolize what Jesus did, but I prefer to take Him at his word; he said explicitly why he came. I see what he told me was there to see.
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Re: I would Rather Burn in Hell than Go To “Heaven”
OP go put your hand in the fire, leave it for 1 minute, this is what hell will be like for you, and your whole body. Best rethink what you want.
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Re: I would Rather Burn in Hell than Go To “Heaven”
If God is real, I would rather burn in hell than go to this so called "Heaven".

Why? Because 90% of Christians are narrow minded idiots, Bible thumpers, rednecks, hippies, new-age freaks or some other idiots.

I would rather burn in fire rather than living with a bunch of complete idiots/freaks in "Heaven" (The REAL Hell) for eternity
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I would rather eat crunchy peanut butter out of oprah winfreys butt crack than read anymore of your pathetic judgemental post. grow up idiot. have a nice day.

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Re: I would Rather Burn in Hell than Go To “Heaven”
If God is real, I would rather burn in hell than go to this so called "Heaven".

Why? Because 90% of Christians are narrow minded idiots, Bible thumpers, rednecks, hippies, new-age freaks or some other idiots.

I would rather burn in fire rather than living with a bunch of complete idiots/freaks in "Heaven" (The REAL Hell) for eternity
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Well that's just silly.
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Exactly!

So if there was a fire in a theatre and only one escape route and enough time for you to get out you would not go through it because the people who will be outside with you are humans with flaws?!?!?!

OK, have it your way.
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Re: I would Rather Burn in Hell than Go To “Heaven”
If God is real, I would rather burn in hell than go to this so called "Heaven".

Why? Because 90% of Christians are narrow minded idiots, Bible thumpers, rednecks, hippies, new-age freaks or some other idiots.

I would rather burn in fire rather than living with a bunch of complete idiots/freaks in "Heaven" (The REAL Hell) for eternity
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Don't worry, you will. By the way, hell is not about burning. It is about suffering. Imagine the worst thing you could suffer here on Earth and multiply that by 1000. That is hell and that is what you will undergo for all eternity.
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Actually, the word "hell" is an old English word translated from the original Greek word "Hades", which simply means "the grave".

The bible say that "death and hell were cast into the Lake of Fire. This is the second death." Revelation 20:14

The bible says that "the last enemy to be destroyed is death".


Do not confuse "hell" with the "Lake of Fire", which are two distinctly different things. The Lake of Fire is where the wicked are cast (along with Satan and the demonic horde).

You are right when you say that hell (the grave) is not about burning. But make no mistake, the wicked will indeed burn. In fact, the bible makes it clear that nothing will be left but ashes, after they are consumed in the smoke.

But there will be no "eternal torment", as most Christians believe. The punishMENT (death) is eternal. But the punishING is not.

The wages of sin is death. Not eternal life in torment. However, the smoke of their torment rises up forever and ever, because that is all that's left of the wicked after they are destroyed in the Lake of Fire. This is the "second death".
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yes! can we just make this post into a rubber stamp, a smiley, or something so one of us doesn't have to wearily type it again, every single time-the several times a day, every day, day after day it comes up?
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Re: I would Rather Burn in Hell than Go To “Heaven”
If God is real, I would rather burn in hell than go to this so called "Heaven".

Why? Because 90% of Christians are narrow minded idiots, Bible thumpers, rednecks, hippies, new-age freaks or some other idiots.

I would rather burn in fire rather than living with a bunch of complete idiots/freaks in "Heaven" (The REAL Hell) for eternity
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Don't worry, you will. By the way, hell is not about burning. It is about suffering. Imagine the worst thing you could suffer here on Earth and multiply that by 1000. That is hell and that is what you will undergo for all eternity.
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How very Christian of you.

Hypocrite.
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OP is not a hypocrite. OP is telling you true facts. You are obviously angry and feeling the conviction of the Holy Spirit or you would not be lashing out like a spoiled brat. This is God calling you and your flesh is rebelling. Hell will indeed burn when it is thrown into the Lake of Fire. I pray to God that your heart softens before you face that.

You will get what you ask for if you remain in rebellion to your Creator. Then again- none of us deserve Heaven. That is why we rely on what Jesus Christ did instead of our own "good works" to get us there.

I really do hope, and pray, that you make a good decision. I am sorry you have had such bad experiences with "Christians". Keep something in mind: Our God is good, we're still fallible humans. We are imperfect creatures seeking after a perfect God. I for one would still rather see you in Heaven, enjoying eternal life in His warmth and love <3
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Re: I would Rather Burn in Hell than Go To “Heaven”
I will agaain direct you to my statement - "monotheism in a polytheistic environment"...

I make a direct comment about religious texts, because my statements are truth for me... I do not expect anyone to see it the way I do...

Just an example:

You see the jesus death on the cross, as a sacrifice for sins, a debt paid...

I see, and have proven it out - the symbol of the cross, is that of horizontal and vertical integration, a financial mechanism of wholesale and retail combining to become one and ready for redemption... The body on the cross, signifies the length of time, the funds will be held in your name waiting for redemption - 7 years... After that, is the second death, and no recovery...

I do not expect you to understand what I just said, it is not your path... It is monotheism in a polytheistic environment... I get what is right for me, at this time...

Does not mean my path is superior - it does mean it is different...
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I understand what you said; I just disagree with it. We could make up just about anything we want to symbolize what Jesus did, but I prefer to take Him at his word; he said explicitly why he came. I see what he told me was there to see.
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See, there is the problem - I could put this information out, and it would solve many of the financial problems people are going through...

But, it would tear down their foundation of spiritual comfort, and I would be accused of being satan, lucifer, ant-christ, devil, etc...

So no - I will keep it to myself, it is meant for me and me alone... Monotheism in a polytheistic environment...
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Re: I would Rather Burn in Hell than Go To “Heaven”
If God is real, I would rather burn in hell than go to this so called "Heaven".

Why? Because 90% of Christians are narrow minded idiots, Bible thumpers, rednecks, hippies, new-age freaks or some other idiots.

I would rather burn in fire rather than living with a bunch of complete idiots/freaks in "Heaven" (The REAL Hell) for eternity
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Well you're in luck cause God never forces us to go to heaven. Sorry you have such a bad opinion about Christians but i will suggest that most of those aren't true Christians. And just for the record, hell doesn't burn for eternity. It's the results that are eternal... The second death, eternal death.
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Re: I would Rather Burn in Hell than Go To “Heaven”
hell is separation from God.

maybe instead of looking around at what you think Christians are..try reading the Word for yourself and try finding a church that you feel comfortable in and fellowship with other like minded people.

it is true...a lot of people who proclaim to be Christians make it hard for someone who doesn't know the Lord to find his way to Him.

a personal relationship with Jesus...is personal. lol. the Holy Spirit will minister to you. if you are open to learning.

there are also very good sites on the web about what Christianity means and is. but like everything else on the web though..there are a lot of misinformed sites as well.

but i can assure you...you dont want to go to hell. and you dont want to be saved just so you dont go to hell.

i honor God for who He is...not what He's done. He created the universe..knows every thought of every man at all times. knows each grain of sand on every shore on earth. knows every molecule of every atom in the universe. if God never answered another prayer...these facts alone deserve my praise and worship.

add the fact that He not only listens to me..but loves and desires a relationship with me....and wow!! the creator of the universe actually cares about me! sometimes we try to imagine God. God is so much bigger then i can wrap my tiny brain around.

good luck to you Brother.
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Let's be honest here... It's the eternal burning that is going to suck a little bit...
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Re: I would Rather Burn in Hell than Go To “Heaven”
You will soon get your wish OP. The communists in charge will eventually get the entire country chipped.