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I would Rather Burn in Hell than Go To “Heaven”

 
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If God is real, I would rather burn in hell than go to this so called "Heaven".

Why? Because 90% of Christians are narrow minded idiots, Bible thumpers, rednecks, hippies, new-age freaks or some other idiots.

I would rather burn in fire rather than living with a bunch of complete idiots/freaks in "Heaven" (The REAL Hell) for eternity
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Don't worry, you will. By the way, hell is not about burning. It is about suffering. Imagine the worst thing you could suffer here on Earth and multiply that by 1000. That is hell and that is what you will undergo for all eternity.
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How very Christian of you.

Hypocrite.
 Quoting: BadMoonRising 4583236


OP is not a hypocrite. OP is telling you true facts. You are obviously angry and feeling the conviction of the Holy Spirit or you would not be lashing out like a spoiled brat. This is God calling you and your flesh is rebelling. Hell will indeed burn when it is thrown into the Lake of Fire. I pray to God that your heart softens before you face that.

You will get what you ask for if you remain in rebellion to your Creator. Then again- none of us deserve Heaven. That is why we rely on what Jesus Christ did instead of our own "good works" to get us there.

I really do hope, and pray, that you make a good decision. I am sorry you have had such bad experiences with "Christians". Keep something in mind: Our God is good, we're still fallible humans. We are imperfect creatures seeking after a perfect God. I for one would still rather see you in Heaven, enjoying eternal life in His warmth and love <3
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Lake of fire = second death, insurance funds...

Nothing spiritual at all...
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I will agaain direct you to my statement - "monotheism in a polytheistic environment"...

I make a direct comment about religious texts, because my statements are truth for me... I do not expect anyone to see it the way I do...

Just an example:

You see the jesus death on the cross, as a sacrifice for sins, a debt paid...

I see, and have proven it out - the symbol of the cross, is that of horizontal and vertical integration, a financial mechanism of wholesale and retail combining to become one and ready for redemption... The body on the cross, signifies the length of time, the funds will be held in your name waiting for redemption - 7 years... After that, is the second death, and no recovery...

I do not expect you to understand what I just said, it is not your path... It is monotheism in a polytheistic environment... I get what is right for me, at this time...

Does not mean my path is superior - it does mean it is different...
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I understand what you said; I just disagree with it. We could make up just about anything we want to symbolize what Jesus did, but I prefer to take Him at his word; he said explicitly why he came. I see what he told me was there to see.
 Quoting: Keep2theCode


See, there is the problem - I could put this information out, and it would solve many of the financial problems people are going through...

But, it would tear down their foundation of spiritual comfort, and I would be accused of being satan, lucifer, ant-christ, devil, etc...

So no - I will keep it to myself, it is meant for me and me alone... Monotheism in a polytheistic environment...
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I was talking about objectivity and worldviews; how did this turn into a financial freedom topic?

Everybody, including you, has comfort zones they don't want torn down. And I'll just leave it there.
Have I now become your enemy by telling you the truth? (Gal. 4:16)
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"good" is bad and evil is good. is evil not the majority? does it not rule the universe? therefore we are in error that think we should do "good". we just get punished for it.
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I will agaain direct you to my statement - "monotheism in a polytheistic environment"...

I make a direct comment about religious texts, because my statements are truth for me... I do not expect anyone to see it the way I do...

Just an example:

You see the jesus death on the cross, as a sacrifice for sins, a debt paid...

I see, and have proven it out - the symbol of the cross, is that of horizontal and vertical integration, a financial mechanism of wholesale and retail combining to become one and ready for redemption... The body on the cross, signifies the length of time, the funds will be held in your name waiting for redemption - 7 years... After that, is the second death, and no recovery...

I do not expect you to understand what I just said, it is not your path... It is monotheism in a polytheistic environment... I get what is right for me, at this time...

Does not mean my path is superior - it does mean it is different...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17551129


I understand what you said; I just disagree with it. We could make up just about anything we want to symbolize what Jesus did, but I prefer to take Him at his word; he said explicitly why he came. I see what he told me was there to see.
 Quoting: Keep2theCode


See, there is the problem - I could put this information out, and it would solve many of the financial problems people are going through...

But, it would tear down their foundation of spiritual comfort, and I would be accused of being satan, lucifer, ant-christ, devil, etc...

So no - I will keep it to myself, it is meant for me and me alone... Monotheism in a polytheistic environment...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17551129

I was talking about objectivity and worldviews; how did this turn into a financial freedom topic?

Everybody, including you, has comfort zones they don't want torn down. And I'll just leave it there.
 Quoting: Keep2theCode


The thread topic is heaven and hell...

The objectivity and worldviews on this topic is spirituallity...

I am saying it is nothing more then a financial control mechanism, and I can point it out, with OBSERVED results...
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If God is real, I would rather burn in hell than go to this so called "Heaven".

Why? Because 90% of Christians are narrow minded idiots, Bible thumpers, rednecks, hippies, new-age freaks or some other idiots.

I would rather burn in fire rather than living with a bunch of complete idiots/freaks in "Heaven" (The REAL Hell) for eternity
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33794571


You may get your wish.

I always wondered why ANYONE would prefer eternal
seperation from God.

Most people would probably NOT like Heaven.

We will be praising GOD for all eternity for who
He is, and what He did for us.

If you don't like God now, unless God really does
a work on you (and He's turned around the most
corrupted men on earth),
you wouldn't like Heaven.

Once you've drawn your last breath, your decision
will be final:

LUKE 16
19 There was a certain rich man, which was clothed in purple and fine linen, and fared sumptuously every day:

20 And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores,

21 And desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man's table: moreover the dogs came and licked his sores.

22 And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried;

23 And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.

24 And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.

25 But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented.

26 And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence.

27 Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest send him to my father's house:

28 For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment.

29 Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them.

30 And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent.

31 And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.

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What are you - a bunch of RELIGION COPS???
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Boy, you have really set yourself apart from everyone. How does feel to be so special?
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The thread topic is heaven and hell...

The objectivity and worldviews on this topic is spirituallity...

I am saying it is nothing more then a financial control mechanism, and I can point it out, with OBSERVED results...
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If the topic of heaven/hell means "anything at all that stems from that", we might as well dispense with the notion of "topic".

But if you think financial control is all "religion" is about, think again; that's only one aspect of control.

What I've been talking about is how one's epistemology determines how they interpret pretty much everything. And as for "observed results", we all know how that too is manipulated. So around and around we go...
Have I now become your enemy by telling you the truth? (Gal. 4:16)
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No, the Words spoken while alive are of importance.
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Babble.
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See what I mean? You had to be such an unbeliever that out of ALL religions, you choose Christianity to bash. Looks like Albert Pike was right huh? Let this be a sign.
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You never hear anyone say ... Oh Krishna... Blah Blah Buddha... MF mohhamad. There's NO POWER there.


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Yes, we're quite aware of where the NEGATIVE, EVIL POWER LIES = LORD/GOD/JEHOVAH
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OP go put your hand in the fire, leave it for 1 minute, this is what hell will be like for you, and your whole body. Best rethink what you want.
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Get a brian you stupid moran!! God is LOVE!!! Love is non-judgmental, but that's not fun for you, now is it? You are sick, disgusting people to wish and HOPE this place you call hell actually exists. YOU are the ones who should rethink what you beLIEve, because, YOU create your own reality via your thought energy. Since YOU create these horrible places with your thought energy, perhaps it would be very befitting for YOU to experience it.
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The thread topic is heaven and hell...

The objectivity and worldviews on this topic is spirituallity...

I am saying it is nothing more then a financial control mechanism, and I can point it out, with OBSERVED results...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17551129


If the topic of heaven/hell means "anything at all that stems from that", we might as well dispense with the notion of "topic".

But if you think financial control is all "religion" is about, think again; that's only one aspect of control.

What I've been talking about is how one's epistemology determines how they interpret pretty much everything. And as for "observed results", we all know how that too is manipulated. So around and around we go...
 Quoting: Keep2theCode


Oh, I know religion is about much more then financial, and again I will refer you to the "cul de sac"...

The kind of results I am talking about - is when you go to the IRS, and get your redemption... Very observable, and established fact...

The same kind of observable and established fact you will get, when you move beyond the "cul de sac"...
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"good" is bad and evil is good. is evil not the majority? does it not rule the universe? therefore we are in error that think we should do "good". we just get punished for it.
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Opposites are identical in nature, just different in degree.
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Fair enough.

But too many presume that "going through a process" means everyone must arrive at the same conclusions. Perhaps I've already been "going through" such things and have arrived at the truth. (I say perhaps just in conversation, not because I have any doubt.)
 Quoting: Keep2theCode

There is 1 Gospel and that means the book has one single meaning, if you haven't verified that your reading time isn't over.

M't:24:14:
And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations;
and then shall the end come.
 Quoting: MHz


Please note my bolded words above.
 Quoting: Keep2theCode

I did, that doesn't mean the 3500 sects don't get their doctrines tuned in so they are all in agreement. That could be as easy as admitting the 70 weeks was a single block of time and that Rome belongs to the brass kingdom.
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For someone to state this:

I would Rather Burn in Hell than Go To “Heaven”

Means, they either don't truly believe, or don't know the true eternal severity of hell.
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OP go put your hand in the fire, leave it for 1 minute, this is what hell will be like for you, and your whole body. Best rethink what you want.
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Get a brian you stupid moran!! God is LOVE!!! Love is non-judgmental, but that's not fun for you, now is it? You are sick, disgusting people to wish and HOPE this place you call hell actually exists. YOU are the ones who should rethink what you beLIEve, because, YOU create your own reality via your thought energy. Since YOU create these horrible places with your thought energy, perhaps it would be very befitting for YOU to experience it.
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For you to attack me the way you did, my above post must have put the fear of God into you. You are afraid and you know in your heart that if you do not accept Jesus as your savior and repent of your sins you will be going to hell, and you will never never never get out. The choice is yours, but the Holy Spirit is convicting you right now to accept Jesus as your Saviour, do not turn from him.

Romans 10:

9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

11 For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.

12 For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.

13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
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I'm going south for the MUSIC! Almost all of my favorites are there, backstage, tuning up for the show of a lifetime. From Bach and Stravinsky to Mingus and Parker, from Edith Piaf to Frank Zappa.et al All of 'em!

verycool
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For someone to state this:

I would Rather Burn in Hell than Go To “Heaven”

Means, they either don't truly believe, or don't know the true eternal severity of hell.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32247729


A man taken out of the body and shown hell. He describes in graphic details, backed with scriptures:

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
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Fair enough.

But too many presume that "going through a process" means everyone must arrive at the same conclusions. Perhaps I've already been "going through" such things and have arrived at the truth. (I say perhaps just in conversation, not because I have any doubt.)
 Quoting: Keep2theCode

There is 1 Gospel and that means the book has one single meaning, if you haven't verified that your reading time isn't over.

M't:24:14:
And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations;
and then shall the end come.
 Quoting: MHz


Please note my bolded words above.
 Quoting: Keep2theCode

I did, that doesn't mean the 3500 sects don't get their doctrines tuned in so they are all in agreement. That could be as easy as admitting the 70 weeks was a single block of time and that Rome belongs to the brass kingdom.
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Look, all I said was that I have no doubt about what the truth is; I know there is only one Gospel.
Have I now become your enemy by telling you the truth? (Gal. 4:16)
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For someone to state this:

I would Rather Burn in Hell than Go To “Heaven”

Means, they either don't truly believe, or don't know the true eternal severity of hell.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32247729


A man taken out of the body and shown hell. He describes in graphic details, backed with scriptures:

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32247729


What this proves out, is the existence of the astral, and the nature of galaxy existence - a spirit stream animating your body, that exists independent of the body...

I would refer you to The Munroe Institute - many students and Munroe himself can give you quite a bit of detail on the astral...

He has three books published - Journeys out of the body, far journeys, and ultimate journey... Very detailed about the astral with the various heavens and hells, and other places...

The constructs exist due to a held on to belief structure, and every belief that has ever been on this planet is represented there... Yet he, was able to pass through all of these and explore, even to the point of being out of our galaxy and viewing it from a distance...
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If God is real, I would rather burn in hell than go to this so called "Heaven".

Why? Because 90% of Christians are narrow minded idiots, Bible thumpers, rednecks, hippies, new-age freaks or some other idiots.

I would rather burn in fire rather than living with a bunch of complete idiots/freaks in "Heaven" (The REAL Hell) for eternity
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33794571


Don't worry, you will. By the way, hell is not about burning. It is about suffering. Imagine the worst thing you could suffer here on Earth and multiply that by 1000. That is hell and that is what you will undergo for all eternity.
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So going to hell would be like going to heaven for the OP?
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Look, all I said was that I have no doubt about what the truth is; I know there is only one Gospel.
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Relax a bit, I'm not asking you to detail what the differences are.
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Heaven for climate, hell for company. – Mark Twain.
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That's a very nice one.
Never heard that one before.
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Look, all I said was that I have no doubt about what the truth is; I know there is only one Gospel.
 Quoting: Keep2theCode

Relax a bit, I'm not asking you to detail what the differences are.
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I'm nice and relaxed, not to worry. I don't know what you're going on about but it's okay.
Have I now become your enemy by telling you the truth? (Gal. 4:16)
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I always wondered why ANYONE would prefer eternal
seperation from God.

Most people would probably NOT like Heaven.

We will be praising GOD for all eternity for who
He is, and what He did for us.
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Yeeeah.. That is going to be a problem.

I don't worship or bow to anyone, let alone for an eternity.

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If God is real, I would rather burn in hell than go to this so called "Heaven".

Why? Because 90% of Christians are narrow minded idiots, Bible thumpers, rednecks, hippies, new-age freaks or some other idiots.

I would rather burn in fire rather than living with a bunch of complete idiots/freaks in "Heaven" (The REAL Hell) for eternity
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What if, all those people on your list got it wrong??
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For someone to state this:

I would Rather Burn in Hell than Go To “Heaven”

Means, they either don't truly believe, or don't know the true eternal severity of hell.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32247729


A man taken out of the body and shown hell. He describes in graphic details, backed with scriptures:

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32247729


What this proves out, is the existence of the astral, and the nature of galaxy existence - a spirit stream animating your body, that exists independent of the body...

I would refer you to The Munroe Institute - many students and Munroe himself can give you quite a bit of detail on the astral...

He has three books published - Journeys out of the body, far journeys, and ultimate journey... Very detailed about the astral with the various heavens and hells, and other places...

The constructs exist due to a held on to belief structure, and every belief that has ever been on this planet is represented there... Yet he, was able to pass through all of these and explore, even to the point of being out of our galaxy and viewing it from a distance...
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:))) so these people went to the "other side" and came back??
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Getting beaten and nailed to some sticks two thousands years before I was born, leaving behind no evidence but a threat of ever lasting torment if I don't believe in a book that has been provably manipulated and edited throughout the centuries is the best that god could do?
 Quoting: LSDreamer

No, why ?
Your assumptions describe you, not "god" nor the bible nor the world nor salvation/Destiny/Life.
Why do you even bother with beliefs you deem unbalanced ?
Can't you guys figure out something else, that suits your needs ?
There's plenty of stuff around, and it even may pop up into your heads at unawares.
Why limit yourself to what TV tell you ?
Because yes, face it.
The Bible is TV. Atheism is TV. Scientism is TV. The New Age is TV. Traditional religions are TV.

Can't you just pick whatever belief suits you and roll with it ?
Why the need to post butthurt messages about these mean beliefs and believers ?

Just fragging believe what you want, you are free to believe whatever you want.
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If God is real, I would rather burn in hell than go to this so called "Heaven".

Why? Because 90% of Christians are narrow minded idiots, Bible thumpers, rednecks, hippies, new-age freaks or some other idiots.

I would rather burn in fire rather than living with a bunch of complete idiots/freaks in "Heaven" (The REAL Hell) for eternity
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33794571


God does not want even one soul lost. Even those who publicly proclaim they don't love him or need him, he wants you equally, loves equally. You see the problem is that you are judging God by those people who are just like you, trying to find their way. Some people go about it the wrong way, and yes, every religion is full of hypocrites. On the other side, there are quiet beautiful people out there who want nothing more than to please their creator. And those people, at this very moment, are praying that God will break through the smallest crack in your armor. So that you can see and feel that he loves you, needs you, and wants you. By separating yourself from his love, by using hate as a shield, you are not permitting him entrance. So, I pray, if only for a brief moment, that you will let your guard down long enough to consider that God loves you, and that those enlightened brothers and sisters of this world love you too. Close your eyes and rest in knowing that you are loved, and despite whatever has separated you from the creator, know that his mercy is endless and be assured that you are forgiven.

God Bless
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If God is real, I would rather burn in hell than go to this so called "Heaven".

Why? Because 90% of Christians are narrow minded idiots, Bible thumpers, rednecks, hippies, new-age freaks or some other idiots.

I would rather burn in fire rather than living with a bunch of complete idiots/freaks in "Heaven" (The REAL Hell) for eternity
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I feel sorry for you when worms as thick as your finger eat you allday and fire burn your flesh off and demones torment you night and day you will realize how idiot you was.
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If God is real, I would rather burn in hell than go to this so called "Heaven".

Why? Because 90% of Christians are narrow minded idiots, Bible thumpers, rednecks, hippies, new-age freaks or some other idiots.

I would rather burn in fire rather than living with a bunch of complete idiots/freaks in "Heaven" (The REAL Hell) for eternity
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I feel sorry for you when worms as thick as your finger eat you allday and fire burn your flesh off and demones torment you night and day you will realize how idiot you was.

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