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Where can Boys learn what it means to grow up as "Men" if they are being homosexualized and feminized??

 
The Lump Under the Carpet

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Get them to read and learn. There are lots of books and other resources out there. It's true, there aren't the same "rites of passage" to become a man like there used to be. Men are raised by women and rarely work in more masculine environments with other men, like on farms, etc. Many environments now are "equalized" to the point of making eunuchs out of some men. Then women wonder where all the "good men" went. So much politically correct BS and no support for the average guy has led to even more confusion when it comes to men seeking to just be a man, unapologetically. Women have had, and still have, tons of support and far more opportunities than they have ever had. Yet many are still not happy. I wonder why.

Books like this one might help:
[link to www.nomoremrniceguy.com]

And programs like this (in CA):
[link to www.authenticmanprogram.com]

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Is it me or does that program just sound gay?
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BTW, do some research about how powerful thinking really is. It can change our genes. But people would rather blame nature rather than themselves for their life and who they think they are.

[link to www.google.com]
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No one asks to be gay, someone's either gay or not, op.
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Bullshit.... Criminals are not born criminals..... They learn & love to accept that those vial acts just commited are not going to be struck down by a bolt of lightning.... All homos get coddled and let stray into a abnormal path of life... Sad really..... Believe in GOD or not everyone can agree it's going against nature... If Dikembe Mutombo slapped the shit out of you as a child and said "NO NO NO.. (While waiving his finger side to side) Whould of erased that "Gay" tendancy you just witnessed.... That just snowballed into your current PTSD of consciousness... I Think its more like GTSD... Gay Traumatic Stress Dissorder
Any who.... Good luck with that.?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32485079


You're displaying an unwittingly high level of ignorance here stinker. 90% of our behaviour and characteristics stems from our genetics. The nature versus nuture discussion has pretty much been put to bed.
 Quoting: Sir France's Beercan


I would say more like 50%. And people always have control over their thoughts and actions unless they are retarded. And many times what people think is nature is really just mimicking thought and action patterns of our parents. Those can always be changed. Most of who we are can be changed.
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Yeah I used to think like that until I spoke to my girlfriend about it. She has studied genetics with some of the world's foremost researchers and it's 90% genetics 10% nuture. The problem is that we associate all our behaviour with and look for character similarities to that of our immediate family (ie one or two generations away) when the truth is we could be ruled by a dominant gene from a war mongering nutcase who happened to rape your great great great great great great great great grandmother. You get the idea?
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How to survive.
We don't all live in fantasy towers.
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That does not teach you what it means to be a female and how that relates to Men
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6038128


If anything, this continues the bad trend.

Empowering females with masculine tasks and responsibilities is just as bad as feminizing men.

As much as women hate to hear it, women belong at home raising kids.
Leave the jobs to men.

The reason young male unemployment is so high in this nation right now (some reports have it at 50%), is because there are far too many females in the workforce, taking all the jobs from the men.

The feminist movement and the empowerment of women have tipped the balance of mankind's natural order and is one of the reasons why the world is, in my opinion, spiraling towards a dystopian future.
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Not giving a woman survival skills teaches her to curl up in a ball and die the first time the power goes out or she gets lost in the woods. This not only leaves the man without a wife, but it endangers the children in her care.

Femininity is not threatened by knowledge and useful skills. I still like my other half to be the man, but I'm also not going to roll over and die if something goes wrong and I have to act immediately for the preservation of life.

When did someone decide that for a man to be powerful meant that he had to have a useless doll by his side? If anything that burdens him and drags him lower.
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great point, too many guys are afraid of a strong woman. A strong woman can be drop dead gorgeous and very feminine as i have seen.

Having a little history in the military, i still remember the ladies i trained with in AIT, CBRN school. Went to Fort Knox for my basic so i didn't see a single woman my whole time there however.

I remember these 4 beautiful women who ran with the A group, relentless near sprint long distance PT runs every other day, of which out of 200 plus people, only consisted of less than 20.

Also remember the rest of the women getting CS gassed with me on many CBRN operation drills and always thinking how much i would want one of these women raising my children and taking on life beside me.

Trust me guys, a woman can kick your ass and still pamper you like the best of them.
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Re: Where can Boys learn what it means to grow up as "Men" if they are being homosexualized and feminized??
Get them to read and learn. There are lots of books and other resources out there. It's true, there aren't the same "rites of passage" to become a man like there used to be. Men are raised by women and rarely work in more masculine environments with other men, like on farms, etc. Many environments now are "equalized" to the point of making eunuchs out of some men. Then women wonder where all the "good men" went. So much politically correct BS and no support for the average guy has led to even more confusion when it comes to men seeking to just be a man, unapologetically. Women have had, and still have, tons of support and far more opportunities than they have ever had. Yet many are still not happy. I wonder why.

Books like this one might help:
[link to www.nomoremrniceguy.com]

And programs like this (in CA):
[link to www.authenticmanprogram.com]

 Quoting: TheDude99


Is it me or does that program just sound gay?
 Quoting: The Lump Under the Carpet


It does sound weird. So because the idea of the macho, bread winning man (brokeback mountain) has somehow been eroded, unless you're out in the wilderness swinging a nine pound axe with gay abandon all day your a queer. There's a fantastic undercurrent of hypocrisy running deep in this thread.
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Dude stick to Facebook please.
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It does sound weird. So because the idea of the macho, bread winning man (brokeback mountain) has somehow been eroded, unless you're out in the wilderness swinging a nine pound axe with gay abandon all day your a queer. There's a fantastic undercurrent of hypocrisy running deep in this thread.
 Quoting: Sir France's Beercan


It's not hypocritical, just bi-minded.
Don't hate.
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grizzy What will be the end thereof. UNINVITED... [link to www.chick.com]
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..your house appears to be your opinion of where boys learn to be men...somehow I'll pass...thanks anyway.
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It does sound weird. So because the idea of the macho, bread winning man (brokeback mountain) has somehow been eroded, unless you're out in the wilderness swinging a nine pound axe with gay abandon all day your a queer. There's a fantastic undercurrent of hypocrisy running deep in this thread.
 Quoting: Sir France's Beercan


It's not hypocritical, just bi-minded.
Don't hate.
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I embrace all my subjects with equal love :-)
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Still the parents bear the bigger responsibility of keep basic teachings, and today they no longer can count on teachers and bogus religious doctrines, neither the military, because most social institutions are taken over by the gay agenda.

Parents that have money can take a risk and put their children in catholic-based schools, which apparently don't indoctrinate kids into the gay agenda, but they're still targets for pedos and closeted fags.

I guess that being a parent in these times we're living in, is a task for demigods with supernatural powers, because modern civilization is totally up to forge sexual deviants.

Specially in the western countries.

Perhaps it's a good idea learning Russian and moving to Russia.
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Fascinating. Either a parent can send their kids to a state run school and be turned gay or they can run the gauntlet of pervs and pedos in the catholic schools.
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Parents with a LOT of money can always reach for other alternatives, like home education, but that's a problem as long as learning institutions demand school records.

Obviously the only way out of this social shithole, would be the part of the society that's not ok with gay and pedo agenda, stand up and push the governments to back off.

Urban marches and protests, massive anti-gay advertise on the internet, "occupy" schools that are into gay indoctrination, boycott TV/movies with gay propaganda... there are may ways of acting, but the biggest problem is that the western society is morally dead. Sexual depravity, deviations and misbehavior fueled by lots of booze and drugs is the way to go nowadays.

Modern parents, when are not working, are too busy watching all sorts of dumb-down shows on TV, being celebrity-wannabes on Farcebook and YouTube, texting, sexting, and they no longer care about moral standards like our parents and grandparents cared.

It's all fucked up!

Unless you're willing to learn Russian and move to Russia, or learn some Arab language and move to Iran, Egypt or something like that, there's no hope for Western civilization.

No without wiping everything out and starting over from the ashes.

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It does sound weird. So because the idea of the macho, bread winning man (brokeback mountain) has somehow been eroded, unless you're out in the wilderness swinging a nine pound axe with gay abandon all day your a queer. There's a fantastic undercurrent of hypocrisy running deep in this thread.
 Quoting: Sir France's Beercan


It's not hypocritical, just bi-minded.
Don't hate.
tounge
 Quoting: The Lump Under the Carpet


I embrace all my subjects with equal love :-)
 Quoting: Sir France's Beercan


Lol. It's just play.

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Simple the Boy Scouts.
The left demonizes them at every chance because they work against their agenda of feminization.
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Get them to read and learn. There are lots of books and other resources out there. It's true, there aren't the same "rites of passage" to become a man like there used to be. Men are raised by women and rarely work in more masculine environments with other men, like on farms, etc. Many environments now are "equalized" to the point of making eunuchs out of some men. Then women wonder where all the "good men" went. So much politically correct BS and no support for the average guy has led to even more confusion when it comes to men seeking to just be a man, unapologetically. Women have had, and still have, tons of support and far more opportunities than they have ever had. Yet many are still not happy. I wonder why.

Books like this one might help:
[link to www.nomoremrniceguy.com]

And programs like this (in CA):
[link to www.authenticmanprogram.com]

 Quoting: TheDude99


Is it me or does that program just sound gay?
 Quoting: The Lump Under the Carpet


Quite the opposite, if you look into it.
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A new disease may be implemented if the same-sexers start to take too much advantage of kindly, tolerant straight people.
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Still the parents bear the bigger responsibility of keep basic teachings, and today they no longer can count on teachers and bogus religious doctrines, neither the military, because most social institutions are taken over by the gay agenda.

Parents that have money can take a risk and put their children in catholic-based schools, which apparently don't indoctrinate kids into the gay agenda, but they're still targets for pedos and closeted fags.

I guess that being a parent in these times we're living in, is a task for demigods with supernatural powers, because modern civilization is totally up to forge sexual deviants.

Specially in the western countries.

Perhaps it's a good idea learning Russian and moving to Russia.
 Quoting: UndercoverAlien


Fascinating. Either a parent can send their kids to a state run school and be turned gay or they can run the gauntlet of pervs and pedos in the catholic schools.
 Quoting: Sir France's Beercan


Parents with a LOT of money can always reach for other alternatives, like home education, but that's a problem as long as learning institutions demand school records.

Obviously the only way out of this social shithole, would be the part of the society that's not ok with gay and pedo agenda, stand up and push the governments to back off.

Urban marches and protests, massive anti-gay advertise on the internet, "occupy" schools that are into gay indoctrination, boycott TV/movies with gay propaganda... there are may ways of acting, but the biggest problem is that the western society is morally dead. Sexual depravity, deviations and misbehavior fueled by lots of booze and drugs is the way to go nowadays.

Modern parents, when are not working, are too busy watching all sorts of dumb-down shows on TV, being celebrity-wannabes on Farcebook and YouTube, texting, sexting, and they no longer care about moral standards like our parents and grandparents cared.

It's all fucked up!

Unless you're willing to learn Russian and move to Russia, or learn some Arab language and move to Iran, Egypt or something like that, there's no hope for Western civilization.

No without wiping everything out and starting over from the ashes.
 Quoting: UndercoverAlien


A family doesn't have to have a lot of money to homeschool. Many families who do homeschool do not make much money. They are pretty frugal. Anyway, records can be kept by the family and a homeschool diploma can be issued. Universities accept these now. Or they can go to an online high school like American School or Penn Foster and get their high school diploma there. We have done that as well as other families we know and it is a breeze. The children can also graduate sooner and start college, work, etc earlier as well. Look into HSLDA.com for more info.
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Bullshit.... Criminals are not born criminals..... They learn & love to accept that those vial acts just commited are not going to be struck down by a bolt of lightning.... All homos get coddled and let stray into a abnormal path of life... Sad really..... Believe in GOD or not everyone can agree it's going against nature... If Dikembe Mutombo slapped the shit out of you as a child and said "NO NO NO.. (While waiving his finger side to side) Whould of erased that "Gay" tendancy you just witnessed.... That just snowballed into your current PTSD of consciousness... I Think its more like GTSD... Gay Traumatic Stress Dissorder
Any who.... Good luck with that.?
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You're displaying an unwittingly high level of ignorance here stinker. 90% of our behaviour and characteristics stems from our genetics. The nature versus nuture discussion has pretty much been put to bed.
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I would say more like 50%. And people always have control over their thoughts and actions unless they are retarded. And many times what people think is nature is really just mimicking thought and action patterns of our parents. Those can always be changed. Most of who we are can be changed.
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Yeah I used to think like that until I spoke to my girlfriend about it. She has studied genetics with some of the world's foremost researchers and it's 90% genetics 10% nuture. The problem is that we associate all our behaviour with and look for character similarities to that of our immediate family (ie one or two generations away) when the truth is we could be ruled by a dominant gene from a war mongering nutcase who happened to rape your great great great great great great great great grandmother. You get the idea?
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Your girlfriend needs to look into the links I listed. Thinking controls much of everything. She needs to research thinking and DNA. We can change who we are. Even how we look to a certain extent. It is amazing. Look into the law of attraction as well. Quantum physics is remarkable. We are responsible for who we are.
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it's really simple..kids imitate what they see..they aren't seeing any real men. I blame spongebob
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Actually Americans have never really taught their sons so it's not even part of any of their "tradition".

The only time that sons were taught traditionally to "be men of character" were during the tribal eras, or the ancient times.

None of this "industrial age" stuff was existing at the time.
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You think that what you say was what was being taught? It was never a rule first of all, and never tradition.

Different ages taught different things. You're just mad because you're not seeing your pompous "alpha male thugs" as much anymore, or rather you see them but you also see the flipside of the coin: the weak that are being preyed on by those alpha male thugs you so much like.

Americans were never traditional, they bastardized everything.
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there's no traditional culture of America. It's just "guns and whisky". OH yea and probably hunting too. Working with "tools" and such was never traditional either, never the rule. American fathers can be office workers, they can be any other type of worker so not all sons were necessarily taught the same. Not all were militant, not all worked with tools, guns, etc.

I'd rather work as a farmer anyway.
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Creativity is also a woman's thing because men are just logical.
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Step one: Fathers have to stop abandoning their children.

Too many kids, especially boys, have no father around to teach them how to be good men.

A strong Mama helps but it is no substitute for a strong and loving man in the kid' s life.
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Women who divorce have to stop retaliating against their ex by turning their children against their father!
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As it stands now....

Women are the property of men

Generally , women marry for security.

Generally, men marry for the guarantee of regular sexual relations with a pretty woman.

Something has to change.

I never realized I was property until a little event involving the Commonwealths finest.

"Take no oath".

Wise words.....indeed.

Sorry OP, the men and of woman today are generally incompatible. Many of the marriages I see are little more than business arrangements.

So sad. I'd rather be alone.

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Before you can teach boys to be men, you have to decide what you mean to teach boys about becoming men.

I hope we mean that boys should learn to take care of themselves physically so that they feel healthy and strong.

I hope it means that we train them to be serious thinkers, using their natural talents to their best advantage.

I hope it means that we teach them positive forms of relaxation so that they don't drive themselves to succeed while depleting themselves of any pleasure in life.

I hope it means we ask them to be responsible for their decisions.

I hope that it means we remind them to be kind to all people, not that they have to bend over backwards, or that they have to play to others opinions or attitudes,but that they remember to be civil in their dealings with other people.

I hope we train boys to be smart about their finances.

I hope boys learn how to communicate with others, both male and female.

I hope that we teach our children,both boys and girls that the Earth is their home and I hope our children grow into adults that respect where they live.

I hope we teach boys that they grow into men, and girls grow into women and not only should that they should get along with one another, but that it's imperative.

No man is an island, and neither is any woman. We all have to live and work together.

I'm not worried about boys growing into men. This nation is filled with absolutely wonderful young men! Yay us!
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Subject them to daily psychological torture until they are incapable of feeling emotion.

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