HOLY CRaP: Jesse Ventura and Sandy Hook | |
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Ahatmose User ID: 25872442 Canada 02/06/2013 11:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ever since he resigned I have suspected he had decided to save his own skin rather than die for his beliefs. I personally think he was scared into resigning and now is not necessarily on their side, he just won't try anymore. To come up with this lame excuse for dismissing the evidence smacks of a plain out right lie. Sad that he has come to this. |
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Rob83 User ID: 33747978 United States 02/06/2013 01:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Funny how you idiots idolize jesse for all his previous investigative work--but the SECOND he disagrees with YOU on something--you drop him like a bad cold....You all look alot less believable now--Pretty sad when even some "truthers' are saying that there is nothing here--and suddenly YOU ALL are right and THEY are all wrong...you guys just keep making yourselves look worse and worse...and I enjoy watching every minute of it.. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 17485914 United States 02/06/2013 01:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Funny how you idiots idolize jesse for all his previous investigative work--but the SECOND he disagrees with YOU on something--you drop him like a bad cold....You all look alot less believable now--Pretty sad when even some "truthers' are saying that there is nothing here--and suddenly YOU ALL are right and THEY are all wrong...you guys just keep making yourselves look worse and worse...and I enjoy watching every minute of it.. Quoting: Rob83 33747978 wait, how are people less believable for not blindly following a leader when they disagree with him? dumbshit. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 801546 United States 02/06/2013 06:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Looks like we can finally say - without a doubt... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1461405 that Jesse Ventura is "one of them": [link to lewrockwell.com] What do you think about this? "“I don’t see enough evidence to think Sandy Hook was a false flag operation. This is more of a tragic event turned into political opportunity than it is a staged event." I agree with Jesse 100% Does that mean I'm "one of them" too? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 3021517 United States 02/06/2013 06:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ever since he resigned I have suspected he had decided to save his own skin rather than die for his beliefs. I personally think he was scared into resigning and now is not necessarily on their side, he just won't try anymore. Quoting: Ahatmose To come up with this lame excuse for dismissing the evidence smacks of a plain out right lie. Sad that he has come to this. Plus he's not very smart, so it makes it hard to tell sometimes. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 801546 United States 02/06/2013 06:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I also agree with Jesse. At a certain point, you people have to realize that you're mentally ill and you think there's a conspiracy in absolutely everything. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33771730 Agree completely. It really shows who is a lunatic and who isn't on this site. The ones who CONSTANTLY call ANYONE who disagrees with them a PAID SHILL are lunatics. They really don't understand the possibility that others see things differently. They are the same people who call everyone but themselves SHEEPLE, and the SAME people who buy into all the nutcase theories: lizard overlords, freemasons ruling the world, doomsday dates and predictions, etc. It is ironic, because there ARE global conspiracies that DO exist, and HAVE existed since the beginning of human civilization. Such is the nature of mankind.....often times he seeks to consolidate power among his allies, and keep power from those who aren't privvy to his company. Thus the conspiracy is born. However, those who see a conspiracy in EVERYTHING are nutcases. They are the same people who think they are being gangstalked. |
GladioDaddy-O User ID: 22439147 United States 02/06/2013 06:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Looks like we can finally say - without a doubt... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1461405 that Jesse Ventura is "one of them": [link to lewrockwell.com] What do you think about this? "“I don’t see enough evidence to think Sandy Hook was a false flag operation. This is more of a tragic event turned into political opportunity than it is a staged event." I agree with Jesse 100% Does that mean I'm "one of them" too? I'm curious what evidence he's seen that suggests Sandy Hook wasn't a false flag. Last Edited by Gladio on 02/06/2013 06:07 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 3021517 United States 02/06/2013 06:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's my opinion that Jesse didn't take enough time to look at all the facts. Either he's too lazy or intentionally neglecting to know too much. He always seems to want to lean toward not believing in false flags. He doesn't believe 9/11 was an inside job. He still wants to participate and believe half-way in the establishment system. He may be considering running for president in 2016, so he doesn't want a lot of things thrown up there in his face that he would have to explain or defend should he decide to run. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33323251 You don't know what you're talking about. He thinks 9/11 was an inside job. He's talked about it many times and did an episode of conspiracy theory about it. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 801546 United States 02/06/2013 06:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Looks like we can finally say - without a doubt... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1461405 that Jesse Ventura is "one of them": [link to lewrockwell.com] What do you think about this? "“I don’t see enough evidence to think Sandy Hook was a false flag operation. This is more of a tragic event turned into political opportunity than it is a staged event." I agree with Jesse 100% Does that mean I'm "one of them" too? Actually, now that I read the entire piece, I have to say I FULLY agree 100% with Jesse. What exactly in that article do you disagree with? So you really think some government figures PLANNED it? Why on earth would they do that? You'd have to be beyond retarded to think they planned it, THEY DON'T NEED TO. Why risk EVERYTHING, when mass shootings already happen in America by kids on SSRIs several times a year? All they have to do was WAIT FOR ONE TO HAPPEN, and then implement their agenda of gun control. If you think they planned it, you obviously think they are more stupid than they actually are. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 33830055 United States 02/06/2013 06:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Looks like we can finally say - without a doubt... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1461405 that Jesse Ventura is "one of them": [link to lewrockwell.com] What do you think about this? So please, do not immediately jump up and yell “Fire!” just because someone makes a Youtube video. Research, research, research. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 801546 United States 02/06/2013 06:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Looks like we can finally say - without a doubt... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1461405 that Jesse Ventura is "one of them": [link to lewrockwell.com] What do you think about this? "“I don’t see enough evidence to think Sandy Hook was a false flag operation. This is more of a tragic event turned into political opportunity than it is a staged event." I agree with Jesse 100% Does that mean I'm "one of them" too? I'm curious what evidence he's seen that suggests Sandy Hook wasn't a false flag. Oh, I see....who now in order for any event that happens in US History to be REAL, there has to be EVIDENCE DISPROVING it wasn't a government set up? Do you have any idea how stupid that sounds? That is like Christians saying "What evidence do you have God DOESNT exist?" YOU are the one making the silly claim that Sandy Hook was for some reason planned and executed by our government or anyone besides Adam Lanza. Why should the sane individuals who have a grasp on reality be forced to show YOU proof for why YOUR crackpot theory isn't real? |
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natasha77 User ID: 33784740 United States 02/06/2013 06:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He's good for a laugh, but Ventura is not to be trusted. Nobody can be trusted. I've seen his shows heard him on the radio but I suspect hes agitating the masses only. He looks brain damaged too, for goodness sakes,!!! SPEAK UP. SILENCE IS DEADLY! I am currently experiencing life at several WTFs per hour. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 801546 United States 02/06/2013 06:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | * I meant evidence PROVING it wasn't a government set up. Look, mass shootings happen all the time. By your logic, every single mass shooting is a false flag, UNTIL it is PROVEN that the shooters responsible acted alone, without external influence from a governmental agency. That is absurd. If you go through life thinking everything is a "false flag", unless there is SPECIFIC evidence ruling it out, you are a very confused individual. Shit happens. That is the nature of life. There isn't always some big, bad boogeyman orchestrating some evil plot. Sure, maybe in SCI FI movies there is....but in real life, there isn't. What you DO have, is 7 billion people on a planet, all with a different perspective, and different beliefs and ideas about life and how it should be lived. Some people share similar beliefs, they form groups. Some areas agree on a type of leadership, they form cities, states, countries, etc. Do conspiracies exist by people in power? Sure! It is the nature of Man. However, the conspiracies aren't as weird as you sci fi readers love to make them. It is mainly selfish people, trying to consolidate and hold power in their favor. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 22439147 United States 02/06/2013 06:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Looks like we can finally say - without a doubt... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1461405 that Jesse Ventura is "one of them": [link to lewrockwell.com] What do you think about this? "“I don’t see enough evidence to think Sandy Hook was a false flag operation. This is more of a tragic event turned into political opportunity than it is a staged event." I agree with Jesse 100% Does that mean I'm "one of them" too? I'm curious what evidence he's seen that suggests Sandy Hook wasn't a false flag. Oh, I see....who now in order for any event that happens in US History to be REAL, there has to be EVIDENCE DISPROVING it wasn't a government set up? Do you have any idea how stupid that sounds? That is like Christians saying "What evidence do you have God DOESNT exist?" YOU are the one making the silly claim that Sandy Hook was for some reason planned and executed by our government or anyone besides Adam Lanza. Why should the sane individuals who have a grasp on reality be forced to show YOU proof for why YOUR crackpot theory isn't real? Wrong. I was minding my business when Sandy Hook happened. The authorities presented a version of events that was diligently repeated by the media, but that story is wholly unbelievable. Any eyewitnesses see Adam Lanza enter the school and do the shooting? Any video surveillance? These are among the things that would silence the crazy conspircay theorists, right? |
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DesinzitizedSleepWalker9978 User ID: 33296170 United States 02/06/2013 07:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Looks like we can finally say - without a doubt... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1461405 that Jesse Ventura is "one of them": [link to lewrockwell.com] What do you think about this? "“I don’t see enough evidence to think Sandy Hook was a false flag operation. This is more of a tragic event turned into political opportunity than it is a staged event." I agree with Jesse 100% Does that mean I'm "one of them" too? I'm curious what evidence he's seen that suggests Sandy Hook wasn't a false flag. Oh, I see....who now in order for any event that happens in US History to be REAL, there has to be EVIDENCE DISPROVING it wasn't a government set up? Do you have any idea how stupid that sounds? That is like Christians saying "What evidence do you have God DOESNT exist?" YOU are the one making the silly claim that Sandy Hook was for some reason planned and executed by our government or anyone besides Adam Lanza. Why should the sane individuals who have a grasp on reality be forced to show YOU proof for why YOUR crackpot theory isn't real? Listen to police scanner...theres enough questions about just that to last a lifetime |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 17586504 United States 02/06/2013 07:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Looks like we can finally say - without a doubt... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1461405 that Jesse Ventura is "one of them": [link to lewrockwell.com] What do you think about this? I think Jesse Ventura expresses some valid as well as invalid points in this piece. While it is clear that there was some form of governmental involvement in this event, and there was some degree of staging at some level, none of us truly knows what happened at Sandy Hook Elementary School. All we can do at present is speculate, and I personally believe that circumstances presently make speculation premature. We know that impostors were paraded in front of cameras under the guise of being relatives of victims and survivors, and that "news" organizations attached false identities to them. We also know that the Ct. State Police staged a faux presentation by their state's chief medical examiner, in which the ME not only demonstrated extraordinarily curious behavior but also lost track of certain fundamental details of the story he was supposed to convey; this caused him to make several fundamental errors that revealed the contrivance of his recount (e.g., he could not even consistently recall in what town/facility the "autopsies" had been performed, plainly contradicting himself on that point). We know that the "news" media behaved in thoroughly odd and inexplicable ways, such as when NBC News confirmed that 76 hours after the "shooting" sources within the local PD and the FBI were still adamantly confirming to them that there was no AR-15 found inside the school (at last word, NBC News was sticking by its story, but stated it would no longer investigate or report on the issue, which is "man-bites-dog" news in and of itself). We know that Gene Rosen is an unmitigated liar, and that the numerous versions of his "I saved the kids" story are not only laughably inconsistent and irretrievably self-contradictory, but ludicrously implausible on their face. We also know that the footage of the school and nearby fire station do not convey any substantial likelihood that the participants at those scenes were actually involved with a real emergency response situation (the boxing in of long-stationary emergency vehicles, the observed behavior of people on the ground, etc., are all much more consistent with the footage framing a movie set than an area where a real public disaster was being addressed. We know all of these things and a host of others that certainly indicate some level of planning and staging of the event, and at least the knowing complicity of public officials and news media. We do not, however, have any real knowledge of what the nature of events at Sandy Hook Elementary School really were. We do not know the nature and extent of government involvement, we do not ultimately know what the goals and imperatives of those who staged it might have been, we do not know precisely how much of what was reported to us legitimately happened, and precisely how much of it was pure contrivance. Just as it shows mental imbalance and diminished analytical skills for someone to deride others for being suspicious of this event, it shows extreme imprudence for someone to state that they know enough of the particulars to discern what the level and extent of governmental/media involvement may have been. We simply do not know. While Jesse Ventura's notion that there is no real indication of governmental/media subterfuge is obviously fatuous and puerile, it is almost as fatuous for a person to state that he/she "knows" what type of an operation this was and what agendas were being fulfilled. I agree with Ventura; now is the time for more "research, research, research," not pursuing the easy yet irresponsible route of pretending that we know precisely what happened. I do not know precisely what happened, you do not know precisely what happened, Bill Maher does not know precisely what happened, and the name-callers who polluted this list with their presence above do not know precisely what happened. In fact, none of us can even venture a well informed or qualified guess. I suggest that we all chill for a moment and steel ourselves to the task of demanding or performing further "research, research, research," and reporting it as it arises. |
Fred User ID: 33015295 Switzerland 02/06/2013 07:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Looks like we can finally say - without a doubt... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1461405 that Jesse Ventura is "one of them": [link to lewrockwell.com] What do you think about this? I think Jesse Ventura expresses some valid as well as invalid points in this piece. While it is clear that there was some form of governmental involvement in this event, and there was some degree of staging at some level, none of us truly knows what happened at Sandy Hook Elementary School. All we can do at present is speculate, and I personally believe that circumstances presently make speculation premature. We know that impostors were paraded in front of cameras under the guise of being relatives of victims and survivors, and that "news" organizations attached false identities to them. We also know that the Ct. State Police staged a faux presentation by their state's chief medical examiner, in which the ME not only demonstrated extraordinarily curious behavior but also lost track of certain fundamental details of the story he was supposed to convey; this caused him to make several fundamental errors that revealed the contrivance of his recount (e.g., he could not even consistently recall in what town/facility the "autopsies" had been performed, plainly contradicting himself on that point). We know that the "news" media behaved in thoroughly odd and inexplicable ways, such as when NBC News confirmed that 76 hours after the "shooting" sources within the local PD and the FBI were still adamantly confirming to them that there was no AR-15 found inside the school (at last word, NBC News was sticking by its story, but stated it would no longer investigate or report on the issue, which is "man-bites-dog" news in and of itself). We know that Gene Rosen is an unmitigated liar, and that the numerous versions of his "I saved the kids" story are not only laughably inconsistent and irretrievably self-contradictory, but ludicrously implausible on their face. We also know that the footage of the school and nearby fire station do not convey any substantial likelihood that the participants at those scenes were actually involved with a real emergency response situation (the boxing in of long-stationary emergency vehicles, the observed behavior of people on the ground, etc., are all much more consistent with the footage framing a movie set than an area where a real public disaster was being addressed. We know all of these things and a host of others that certainly indicate some level of planning and staging of the event, and at least the knowing complicity of public officials and news media. We do not, however, have any real knowledge of what the nature of events at Sandy Hook Elementary School really were. We do not know the nature and extent of government involvement, we do not ultimately know what the goals and imperatives of those who staged it might have been, we do not know precisely how much of what was reported to us legitimately happened, and precisely how much of it was pure contrivance. Just as it shows mental imbalance and diminished analytical skills for someone to deride others for being suspicious of this event, it shows extreme imprudence for someone to state that they know enough of the particulars to discern what the level and extent of governmental/media involvement may have been. We simply do not know. While Jesse Ventura's notion that there is no real indication of governmental/media subterfuge is obviously fatuous and puerile, it is almost as fatuous for a person to state that he/she "knows" what type of an operation this was and what agendas were being fulfilled. I agree with Ventura; now is the time for more "research, research, research," not pursuing the easy yet irresponsible route of pretending that we know precisely what happened. I do not know precisely what happened, you do not know precisely what happened, Bill Maher does not know precisely what happened, and the name-callers who polluted this list with their presence above do not know precisely what happened. In fact, none of us can even venture a well informed or qualified guess. I suggest that we all chill for a moment and steel ourselves to the task of demanding or performing further "research, research, research," and reporting it as it arises. very nicely said... but this is what maybe they expected from Jesse.. more investigation. |