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IT is obvious the Bible does not tell you the beginning of everything...

 
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IT is obvious the Bible does not tell you the beginning of everything...
does not make it a bad tool, just an incomplete one. What do you think the beginning of creation is really?
"a foundation built on lies is always bound to crumble and those who aren't humble shall tumble to the earth"
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Re: IT is obvious the Bible does not tell you the beginning of everything...
Nothingness becoming aware of itself. A sort of big bang of the spirit.
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Nothingness becoming aware of itself. A sort of big bang of the spirit.
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Not quite, but that does not mean you are wrong, just not thinking VAST enough terminology wise. I would rethink the term "nothingness" if I were you. It will open up your understanding really

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so no takers? really? that full of fear????hiding
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Who knows for sure.
I imagine that the energy became aware and from there began to think, then the energy gave the thought shape. In short we, the physical are living the thought of a moment of the source of all.
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Nothingness becoming aware of itself. A sort of big bang of the spirit.
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Not quite, but that does not mean you are wrong, just not thinking VAST enough terminology wise. I would rethink the term "nothingness" if I were you. It will open up your understanding really

peace
 Quoting: acegotflows


Applying terms to abstract/metaphysical concepts is an art form... unless you still perceive through a rigid paradigm. In that case my verbiage is without proper context.
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Who knows for sure.
I imagine that the energy became aware and from there began to think, then the energy gave the thought shape. In short we, the physical are living the thought of a moment of the source of all.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22439663


astute observation. Essentially this is pretty accurate. Think of everything as energy having a data collecting experience in form.

Form and function can't be allowed to know that they work for eachother until they both accept the fact. Then they achieve balance. The next state is return to being.

Some of us KNOW this to be true...
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Who knows for sure.
I imagine that the energy became aware and from there began to think, then the energy gave the thought shape. In short we, the physical are living the thought of a moment of the source of all.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22439663


astute observation. Essentially this is pretty accurate. Think of everything as energy having a data collecting experience in form.

Form and function can't be allowed to know that they work for eachother until they both accept the fact. Then they achieve balance. The next state is return to being.

Some of us KNOW this to be true...
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What a fullness that will be. To be united and whole again, with the added bonus of having the feelings (love, hate, compassion, forgiveness and so on) of the experience of, the thoughts that were born.
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Who knows for sure.
I imagine that the energy became aware and from there began to think, then the energy gave the thought shape. In short we, the physical are living the thought of a moment of the source of all.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22439663


astute observation. Essentially this is pretty accurate. Think of everything as energy having a data collecting experience in form.

Form and function can't be allowed to know that they work for eachother until they both accept the fact. Then they achieve balance. The next state is return to being.

Some of us KNOW this to be true...
 Quoting: acegotflows


What a fullness that will be. To be united and whole again, with the added bonus of having the feelings (love, hate, compassion, forgiveness and so on) of the experience of, the thoughts that were born.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22439663


the purpose of the universe... it would serve you to experience as much as you can while here and get in touch with your true self...
"a foundation built on lies is always bound to crumble and those who aren't humble shall tumble to the earth"
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Who knows for sure.
I imagine that the energy became aware and from there began to think, then the energy gave the thought shape. In short we, the physical are living the thought of a moment of the source of all.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22439663


astute observation. Essentially this is pretty accurate. Think of everything as energy having a data collecting experience in form.

Form and function can't be allowed to know that they work for eachother until they both accept the fact. Then they achieve balance. The next state is return to being.

Some of us KNOW this to be true...
 Quoting: acegotflows


What a fullness that will be. To be united and whole again, with the added bonus of having the feelings (love, hate, compassion, forgiveness and so on) of the experience of, the thoughts that were born.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22439663


the purpose of the universe... it would serve you to experience as much as you can while here and get in touch with your true self...
 Quoting: acegotflows


I have been. I just went through a VERY dark time, looking into the truth of the darkness was scary and liberating at the same time. On the other side of that I am feeling more complete (so to speak).
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Re: IT is obvious the Bible does not tell you the beginning of everything...
Wait...
is Obama still stabbing babies to death at Bohemian Grove?

And you want to talk Theology /Metaphysics lol...

Don't give me this Obama has no idea about Bohemian Grove?
That's even worse!
Don't tell me Just the high Priest Does the Killing...
Just as Bad....
Don't tell me it is Just An Effigy/Symbolic Murder...
That's just as bad too...

Where The Fuck Are The Two Witnesses?

Most Of Satan's New World Order Is Here.
The Rest (Those written in lambs book of life) Have Two People To Root For For TRUTH & Justice to Remain Truth And Justice.... For This Generation got so bad that we needed just a couple Witnesses Washed by the Blood Of the lamb to Bring Truth to the forefront of Reality...

Don't you know what we are battling for? This is Spiritual War and its about to become physical (666)

Chop My Head Off

chop MY head OFf

CHOP MY HeAD OFF

CHOP MY HEAD OFF ALREADY WRITTEN!
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what you mean jesus was playing poker with god and he let out a toot and there it was
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Re: IT is obvious the Bible does not tell you the beginning of everything...
Actually, it IS obvious that the Bible tells us EVERYTHING about the beginning. When I picked up the bible over 40 years ago, I said to myself: "if this book does not have science in it, then it is worthless and good for nothing. I studied it without ANY reference to spiritual things. I kept it at a PHYSICAL level and found that ALL of science is in there and ALL about how, when, and by whom the creation occurred. It was so up-to-date, that I could correlate much of what was going on in the physical sciences to what the bible was teaching about our world. If I was to compare it with anything, it would be the Hall of Records which is hidden in plain sight.

Even more importantly, it tells the END of all things as well. You name the science--it is in there. A few examples: laser and maser technology, time and its properties, atomic level (planck length) operations, electricity and plasma theory, and a multitude of other things including the psychological aspects of human nature and how it functions (through the physical). It is ALL in there. I have been a science junkie since childhood, and the bible is one of the most comprehensive scientific books I have ever read. That is no joke and that is no lie. It IS hidden in plain sight if we're willing to do the research. Even moreso, it is DESIGNED to be revealed in its time.
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Re: IT is obvious the Bible does not tell you the beginning of everything...
Actually, it IS obvious that the Bible tells us EVERYTHING about the beginning. When I picked up the bible over 40 years ago, I said to myself: "if this book does not have science in it, then it is worthless and good for nothing. I studied it without ANY reference to spiritual things. I kept it at a PHYSICAL level and found that ALL of science is in there and ALL about how, when, and by whom the creation occurred. It was so up-to-date, that I could correlate much of what was going on in the physical sciences to what the bible was teaching about our world. If I was to compare it with anything, it would be the Hall of Records which is hidden in plain sight.

Even more importantly, it tells the END of all things as well. You name the science--it is in there. A few examples: laser and maser technology, time and its properties, atomic level (planck length) operations, electricity and plasma theory, and a multitude of other things including the psychological aspects of human nature and how it functions (through the physical). It is ALL in there. I have been a science junkie since childhood, and the bible is one of the most comprehensive scientific books I have ever read. That is no joke and that is no lie. It IS hidden in plain sight if we're willing to do the research. Even moreso, it is DESIGNED to be revealed in its time.
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Thats because the illuminati made the bible they know their science
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Re: IT is obvious the Bible does not tell you the beginning of everything...
b'reishith bora elohim eth ha eretz v'ha shamayim.

I think that's how my bible begins.

It means something like, "the first principle is that God created the earth and the heavens."

Then it gets into all this quantum physics stuff about tohu and bohu which I think is about matter and antimatter,

Then it goes onto all this stuff about fish and birds and "tannim godolim" which demonstrably means big reptiles or in latin dinosaurs.

Then we finally get to to the 7th day of creation, when God rests or alights, and from then on we are on an earth based timeline.

We meet this ethnocentric couple named Adam and Eve who call themselves the first man and woman much like modern Eskimos refer to themselves as Inuit and everyone else as Kabloonuit.

In politically correct speech what I just said was racist, because I called those muktuk eaters, eaters of raw flesh, instead of dehumanising the entire human race, and elevating the Inuit above all else.

Yes it's a hard document to translate, because all languages are ambiguous and biased.
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does not make it a bad tool, just an incomplete one. What do you think the beginning of creation is really?
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Using the old earth creation mode and the end of day 1 being 4BYA then the start of the creation of heaven was 40BYA and the big bang was two black-holes 'merging' about 14BYA.

Is that how far back you want to go or do you want to meet God's and the Holy Spirit's parents?

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Re: IT is obvious the Bible does not tell you the beginning of everything...
does not make it a bad tool, just an incomplete one. What do you think the beginning of creation is really?
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Using the old earth creation mode and the end of day 1 being 4BYA then the start of the creation of heaven was 40BYA and the big bang was two black-holes 'merging' about 14BYA.

Is that how far back you want to go or do you want to meet God's and the Holy Spirit's parents?
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that's cool stuff. You can go back as far as you want. There is no right or wrong answer. Please share more if you would like. I would like you to afro
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Re: IT is obvious the Bible does not tell you the beginning of everything...
Actually your thread title is correct. The creation of the universe isn't even mentioned. The book of Genesis merely describes the creation of Earth and her 3 ages. That's it.
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Re: IT is obvious the Bible does not tell you the beginning of everything...
Actually, it IS obvious that the Bible tells us EVERYTHING about the beginning. When I picked up the bible over 40 years ago, I said to myself: "if this book does not have science in it, then it is worthless and good for nothing. I studied it without ANY reference to spiritual things. I kept it at a PHYSICAL level and found that ALL of science is in there and ALL about how, when, and by whom the creation occurred. It was so up-to-date, that I could correlate much of what was going on in the physical sciences to what the bible was teaching about our world. If I was to compare it with anything, it would be the Hall of Records which is hidden in plain sight.

Even more importantly, it tells the END of all things as well. You name the science--it is in there. A few examples: laser and maser technology, time and its properties, atomic level (planck length) operations, electricity and plasma theory, and a multitude of other things including the psychological aspects of human nature and how it functions (through the physical). It is ALL in there. I have been a science junkie since childhood, and the bible is one of the most comprehensive scientific books I have ever read. That is no joke and that is no lie. It IS hidden in plain sight if we're willing to do the research. Even moreso, it is DESIGNED to be revealed in its time.
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the Bible is a tool, just as any other. Nobody will have the same understanding. If you feel that it is obvious, then you might have found one of your essential tools and are completing the story yourself...
"a foundation built on lies is always bound to crumble and those who aren't humble shall tumble to the earth"
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Actually your thread title is correct. The creation of the universe isn't even mentioned. The book of Genesis merely describes the creation of Earth and her 3 ages. That's it.
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yet some will still argue and claim I'm lying. Sad the state of ignorance people live in right?
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IT is obvious the Bible does not tell you the beginning of everything...
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God did it. That's all you need to know. chuckle
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Actually your thread title is correct. The creation of the universe isn't even mentioned. The book of Genesis merely describes the creation of Earth and her 3 ages. That's it.
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yet some will still argue and claim I'm lying. Sad the state of ignorance people live in right?
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Well, let me correct myself. The book of Genesis only describes the creation of the Earth in detail. The remainder of the bible describes the Earth ages.

The only line in the bible depicting the creation of the universe is "In the beginning God created the heavens and the Earth."

The creation of everything else is apparently non of our business.
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Re: IT is obvious the Bible does not tell you the beginning of everything...
b'reishith bora elohim eth ha eretz v'ha shamayim.

I think that's how my bible begins.

It means something like, "the first principle is that God created the earth and the heavens."

Then it gets into all this quantum physics stuff about tohu and bohu which I think is about matter and antimatter,

Then it goes onto all this stuff about fish and birds and "tannim godolim" which demonstrably means big reptiles or in latin dinosaurs.

Then we finally get to to the 7th day of creation, when God rests or alights, and from then on we are on an earth based timeline.

We meet this ethnocentric couple named Adam and Eve who call themselves the first man and woman much like modern Eskimos refer to themselves as Inuit and everyone else as Kabloonuit.

In politically correct speech what I just said was racist, because I called those muktuk eaters, eaters of raw flesh, instead of dehumanising the entire human race, and elevating the Inuit above all else.

Yes it's a hard document to translate, because all languages are ambiguous and biased.
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This is pretty cool :). It all comes to tools of relation. I feel that none of us speak a language old enough to know the truth about all of it, we can only go on faith and such. I am in a balanced state with a violet aura, so essentially I am close to light and love. I feel that if you really analyze my answers and what I have been posting lately you will see truth in your own interpretation of it. There is no right or wrong way, but there is active and dormant knowledge in all of us...
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Actually your thread title is correct. The creation of the universe isn't even mentioned. The book of Genesis merely describes the creation of Earth and her 3 ages. That's it.
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yet some will still argue and claim I'm lying. Sad the state of ignorance people live in right?
 Quoting: acegotflows


Well, let me correct myself. The book of Genesis only describes the creation of the Earth in detail. The remainder of the bible describes the Earth ages.

The only line in the bible depicting the creation of the universe is "In the beginning God created the heavens and the Earth."

The creation of everything else is apparently non of our business.
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I see it something like this.

Source decided to take form. Form's function is to experience and return to source. 0 became 1 and all after is trying to go back to zero. The snake eating it's tail so to speak.

So Being (complete spectrum)took on form and function (yin and yang, stars light/dark) in order to learn more and such. Energy is function and body is form. Basically a hologram of exponential possibilities that occurs by thinking what hasn't been thought of yet... The thought becomes action, the action becomes another form or creation and it starts all over, exponentially from a source...
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Re: IT is obvious the Bible does not tell you the beginning of everything...
it's not imcomplete, it tells you everything. Look outside of Genesis alone.

jerimiah 4 tells you about the creation and the earth age before it that God destroyed.

3 earth ages, we are in the 2nd. The earth is millions of years old.

22 For my people is foolish, they have not known me; they are sottish children, and they have none understanding: they are wise to do evil, but to do good they have no knowledge.

23 I beheld the earth, and, lo, it was without form, and void; and the heavens, and they had no light.

24 I beheld the mountains, and, lo, they trembled, and all the hills moved lightly.

25 I beheld, and, lo, there was no man, and all the birds of the heavens were fled.

26 I beheld, and, lo, the fruitful place was a wilderness, and all the cities thereof were broken down at the presence of the Lord, and by his fierce anger.

27 For thus hath the Lord said, The whole land shall be desolate; yet will I not make a full end.

28 For this shall the earth mourn, and the heavens above be black; because I have spoken it, I hav
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Actually your thread title is correct. The creation of the universe isn't even mentioned. The book of Genesis merely describes the creation of Earth and her 3 ages. That's it.
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yet some will still argue and claim I'm lying. Sad the state of ignorance people live in right?
 Quoting: acegotflows


The only line in the bible depicting the creation of the universe is "In the beginning God created the heavens and the Earth."

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Yes, in the beginning, but it doesn't say when that was. It doesn't specify how long it was created and when Adam was created, we know on the 8th day he was, but not from when the earth was made.
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Re: IT is obvious the Bible does not tell you the beginning of everything...
it's not imcomplete, it tells you everything. Look outside of Genesis alone.

jerimiah 4 tells you about the creation and the earth age before it that God destroyed.

3 earth ages, we are in the 2nd. The earth is millions of years old.

22 For my people is foolish, they have not known me; they are sottish children, and they have none understanding: they are wise to do evil, but to do good they have no knowledge.

23 I beheld the earth, and, lo, it was without form, and void; and the heavens, and they had no light.

24 I beheld the mountains, and, lo, they trembled, and all the hills moved lightly.

25 I beheld, and, lo, there was no man, and all the birds of the heavens were fled.

26 I beheld, and, lo, the fruitful place was a wilderness, and all the cities thereof were broken down at the presence of the Lord, and by his fierce anger.

27 For thus hath the Lord said, The whole land shall be desolate; yet will I not make a full end.

28 For this shall the earth mourn, and the heavens above be black; because I have spoken it, I hav
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you can use the tool all you want, but it's not complete. It's not allowed to be complete. Remember the sealed up part until the end? Well, that's a lot to do with the BEGINNING as well. The mystery is the whole book, not just a few verses here and there. You can't think linearly.

And that is how man has been fooled and controlled, by thinking linearly and not spherical...
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Re: IT is obvious the Bible does not tell you the beginning of everything...
Actually your thread title is correct. The creation of the universe isn't even mentioned. The book of Genesis merely describes the creation of Earth and her 3 ages. That's it.
 Quoting: Chip


yet some will still argue and claim I'm lying. Sad the state of ignorance people live in right?
 Quoting: acegotflows


The only line in the bible depicting the creation of the universe is "In the beginning God created the heavens and the Earth."

 Quoting: Chip


Yes, in the beginning, but it doesn't say when that was. It doesn't specify how long it was created and when Adam was created, we know on the 8th day he was, but not from when the earth was made.
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why is it so difficult for people to understand that The Bible also says that you are not allowed to know everything. If you did, you would just go back to source...
"a foundation built on lies is always bound to crumble and those who aren't humble shall tumble to the earth"
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Re: IT is obvious the Bible does not tell you the beginning of everything...
it's not imcomplete, it tells you everything. Look outside of Genesis alone.

jerimiah 4 tells you about the creation and the earth age before it that God destroyed.

3 earth ages, we are in the 2nd. The earth is millions of years old.

22 For my people is foolish, they have not known me; they are sottish children, and they have none understanding: they are wise to do evil, but to do good they have no knowledge.

23 I beheld the earth, and, lo, it was without form, and void; and the heavens, and they had no light.

24 I beheld the mountains, and, lo, they trembled, and all the hills moved lightly.

25 I beheld, and, lo, there was no man, and all the birds of the heavens were fled.

26 I beheld, and, lo, the fruitful place was a wilderness, and all the cities thereof were broken down at the presence of the Lord, and by his fierce anger.

27 For thus hath the Lord said, The whole land shall be desolate; yet will I not make a full end.

28 For this shall the earth mourn, and the heavens above be black; because I have spoken it, I hav
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you can use the tool all you want, but it's not complete. It's not allowed to be complete. Remember the sealed up part until the end? Well, that's a lot to do with the BEGINNING as well. The mystery is the whole book, not just a few verses here and there. You can't think linearly.

And that is how man has been fooled and controlled, by thinking linearly and not spherical...
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what dont you understand about the beginning? you dont understand that we were all with God in the beginning? You dont understand that there was a rebellion and overthrow?

It tells us everything.
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