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Christians: How Unconditional Love Exist Where There Is Jealousy?

 
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Here is a Bible verse in the New Test that says love is not jealous: 1 Corinthians 13:4 Love is patient. Love is kind. Love isn't jealous. It doesn't sing its own praises. It isn't arrogant.

Here is a Bible verse in the New Test that says God is love: 1 John 4:8 Whoever does not love does not know God, because God is love.

Here is a Bible verse in the Old Test that says God is a jealous God: Exodus 20:5 You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God

How do you explain that contradiction? Love is not supposed to be jealous, yet God is a jealous God. Why does his word contradict itself on this topic?
 Quoting: Mr. HypGnostic


1.Jealous GOD....GOD wants to give you the desires of your heart, he cannot do it, if you give your Love to a False GOD..

2. Love meaning accusing in *Human Jealousy* are you a wife that gets jealous if your husband takes time for his mother?

 Quoting: christian


So explain godlike jealousy to me then... how is it different?
 Quoting: Mr. HypGnostic



If you had a Child, and your Child wanted to give there love to other parents not you...Would you feel sad, (Jealous) that you could no longer give that child your gifts, someone else was doing it?

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the bible was set up as a means for a "civilized" society back in the day. it took pieces of spiritual guidance and inter-weaved it with man's law. It is fallible because it was written by man, not god. god didn't set up the printing press. God didn't dip the pen's in the ink. God had as much to do with the bible as with the super bowl.
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Exactly, especially since it was manipulated all throughout history. Constantine saved the roman empire by manipulating it way back in 325AD.
 Quoting: Mr. HypGnostic


How exactly did he manipulate the ancient Scriptures by mere collecting them into one Book?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975


Council of nicaea... research it.
 Quoting: Mr. HypGnostic


They collected ancient Scriptures into one book, called the Bible. They did not write a letter there.
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OP what stories of the bible do you doubt happened?

Im a christian that believes most things did actually happen.
 Quoting: Saltynoodle


Ill start with Noahs ark.
 Quoting: Mr. HypGnostic


How about Jesus do you believe he was a real man? How about king David?
 Quoting: Saltynoodle


I believe that a being with the christ consciousness did walk the earth, more than one in fact.
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Deuteronomy 22: 28-29

If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her.
 Quoting: Mr. HypGnostic


This was scripture for the Children of Israel..Not Gentiles.


Judaism takes a strong position against rape, with the Talmud comparing it to murder. As such, Judaism permits one to kill a rapist who is in pursuit of a woman, in order to save her from attack.

Rape of a married woman is a capital crime. (Deuteronomy 22:25)

Rape of a single woman carries a heavy monetary fine, plus the rapist has to pay reparation for embarrassment, damages and emotional anguish. The rapist also incurs lashes. This is all intended as both a deterrent and a punishment. (Deuteronomy 22:28-29)
 Quoting: christian


Whats the difference? Is it not the same god?
 Quoting: Mr. HypGnostic



Because Gentiles only had 7 Universal Laws to adhere to

They are called the 7 Universal Laws given to all of Mankind.


The JEWS have 613 Commandments they wanted to adhere to from Moses...

Jesus Christ came to give both Jew and Gentile a WAY to reconcile with our Heavenly Father by his Blood Sacrafice.

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For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.....Matthew 6:21
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OP what stories of the bible do you doubt happened?

Im a christian that believes most things did actually happen.
 Quoting: Saltynoodle


Jonah survived three days in the belly of a whale?
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Here is a Bible verse in the New Test that says love is not jealous: 1 Corinthians 13:4 Love is patient. Love is kind. Love isn't jealous. It doesn't sing its own praises. It isn't arrogant.

Here is a Bible verse in the New Test that says God is love: 1 John 4:8 Whoever does not love does not know God, because God is love.

Here is a Bible verse in the Old Test that says God is a jealous God: Exodus 20:5 You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God

How do you explain that contradiction? Love is not supposed to be jealous, yet God is a jealous God. Why does his word contradict itself on this topic?
 Quoting: Mr. HypGnostic


1.Jealous GOD....GOD wants to give you the desires of your heart, he cannot do it, if you give your Love to a False GOD..

2. Love meaning accusing in *Human Jealousy* are you a wife that gets jealous if your husband takes time for his mother?

 Quoting: christian


So explain godlike jealousy to me then... how is it different?
 Quoting: Mr. HypGnostic



If you had a Child, and your Child wanted to give there love to other parents not you...Would you feel sad, (Jealous) that you could no longer give that child your gifts, someone else was doing it?

 Quoting: christian


Um im not a creator of life... i am a human... how can my emotions be the same as gods?

Yes i would be jealous but i wouldnt burn their soul in hell for eternity either...

I dont understand your point at all...
In Lak`ech.
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Deuteronomy 22: 28-29

If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her.
 Quoting: Mr. HypGnostic


This was scripture for the Children of Israel..Not Gentiles.


Judaism takes a strong position against rape, with the Talmud comparing it to murder. As such, Judaism permits one to kill a rapist who is in pursuit of a woman, in order to save her from attack.

Rape of a married woman is a capital crime. (Deuteronomy 22:25)

Rape of a single woman carries a heavy monetary fine, plus the rapist has to pay reparation for embarrassment, damages and emotional anguish. The rapist also incurs lashes. This is all intended as both a deterrent and a punishment. (Deuteronomy 22:28-29)
 Quoting: christian


Whats the difference? Is it not the same god?
 Quoting: Mr. HypGnostic



Because Gentiles only had 7 Universal Laws to adhere to

They are called the 7 Universal Laws given to all of Mankind.


The JEWS have 613 Commandments they wanted to adhere to from Moses...

Jesus Christ came to give both Jew and Gentile a WAY to reconcile with our Heavenly Father by his Blood Sacrafice.

 Quoting: christian


Its still the same god so im missing your point...
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The 7 LAWS OF NOAH GIVEN TO ALL MANKIND....


THE 7 LAWS

1
Acknowledge that there is only one G-d who is Infinite and Supreme above all things. Do not replace that Supreme Being with finite idols, be it yourself, or other beings. This command includes such acts as prayer, study and meditation.

2
Respect the Creator. As frustrated and angry as you may be, do not vent it by cursing your Maker.

3
Respect human life. Every human being is an entire world. To save a life is to save that entire world. To destroy a life is to destroy an entire world. To help others live is a corollary of this principle.

4
Respect the institution of marriage. Marriage is a most Divine act. The marriage of a man and a woman is a reflection of the oneness of G-d and His creation. Disloyalty in marriage is an assault on that oneness.

5
Respect the rights and property of others. Be honest in all your business dealings. By relying on G-d rather than on our own conniving, we express our trust in Him as the Provider of Life.

6
Respect G-d's creatures. At first, Man was forbidden to consume meat. After the Great Flood, he was permitted - but with a warning: Do not cause unnecessary suffering to any creature.

7
Maintain justice. Justice is G-d's business, but we are given the charge to lay down necessary laws and enforce them whenever we can. When we right the wrongs of society, we are acting as partners in the act of sustaining the creation.
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This was scripture for the Children of Israel..Not Gentiles.


Judaism takes a strong position against rape, with the Talmud comparing it to murder. As such, Judaism permits one to kill a rapist who is in pursuit of a woman, in order to save her from attack.

Rape of a married woman is a capital crime. (Deuteronomy 22:25)

Rape of a single woman carries a heavy monetary fine, plus the rapist has to pay reparation for embarrassment, damages and emotional anguish. The rapist also incurs lashes. This is all intended as both a deterrent and a punishment. (Deuteronomy 22:28-29)
 Quoting: christian


Whats the difference? Is it not the same god?
 Quoting: Mr. HypGnostic



Because Gentiles only had 7 Universal Laws to adhere to

They are called the 7 Universal Laws given to all of Mankind.


The JEWS have 613 Commandments they wanted to adhere to from Moses...

Jesus Christ came to give both Jew and Gentile a WAY to reconcile with our Heavenly Father by his Blood Sacrafice.

 Quoting: christian


Its still the same god so im missing your point...
 Quoting: Mr. HypGnostic


Yes it is..But GOD only revealed himself to the Children of Israel..His Plans did not include Gentiles or Pagans...
Susie

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Exactly, especially since it was manipulated all throughout history. Constantine saved the roman empire by manipulating it way back in 325AD.
 Quoting: Mr. HypGnostic


How exactly did he manipulate the ancient Scriptures by mere collecting them into one Book?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975


Council of nicaea... research it.
 Quoting: Mr. HypGnostic


They collected ancient Scriptures into one book, called the Bible. They did not write a letter there.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975


So you trust that an evil emperor didnt manipulate even one word to his advantage?
In Lak`ech.
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Whats the difference? Is it not the same god?
 Quoting: Mr. HypGnostic



Because Gentiles only had 7 Universal Laws to adhere to

They are called the 7 Universal Laws given to all of Mankind.


The JEWS have 613 Commandments they wanted to adhere to from Moses...

Jesus Christ came to give both Jew and Gentile a WAY to reconcile with our Heavenly Father by his Blood Sacrafice.

 Quoting: christian


Its still the same god so im missing your point...
 Quoting: Mr. HypGnostic


Yes it is..But GOD only revealed himself to the Children of Israel..His Plans did not include Gentiles or Pagans...
 Quoting: christian


So what changed his mind about gentiles? Is god a he?
In Lak`ech.
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1.Jealous GOD....GOD wants to give you the desires of your heart, he cannot do it, if you give your Love to a False GOD..

2. Love meaning accusing in *Human Jealousy* are you a wife that gets jealous if your husband takes time for his mother?

 Quoting: christian


So explain godlike jealousy to me then... how is it different?
 Quoting: Mr. HypGnostic



If you had a Child, and your Child wanted to give there love to other parents not you...Would you feel sad, (Jealous) that you could no longer give that child your gifts, someone else was doing it?

 Quoting: christian


Um im not a creator of life... i am a human... how can my emotions be the same as gods?

Yes i would be jealous but i wouldnt burn their soul in hell for eternity either...

I dont understand your point at all...
In Lak`ech.
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OP what stories of the bible do you doubt happened?

Im a christian that believes most things did actually happen.
 Quoting: Saltynoodle


Jonah survived three days in the belly of a whale?
 Quoting: Psych


I do personally yes. I know others might think its impossible.. and maybe without god yes.. but with God nothing is impossible. Same goes for Daniel.
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How exactly did he manipulate the ancient Scriptures by mere collecting them into one Book?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975


Council of nicaea... research it.
 Quoting: Mr. HypGnostic


They collected ancient Scriptures into one book, called the Bible. They did not write a letter there.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975


So you trust that an evil emperor didnt manipulate even one word to his advantage?
 Quoting: Mr. HypGnostic


The OT was compared with the Scrolls from the Dead Sea and found translated accurate, e.g.
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Council of nicaea... research it.
 Quoting: Mr. HypGnostic


They collected ancient Scriptures into one book, called the Bible. They did not write a letter there.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975


So you trust that an evil emperor didnt manipulate even one word to his advantage?
 Quoting: Mr. HypGnostic


The OT was compared with the Scrolls from the Dead Sea and found translated accurate, e.g.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975


Oh yeah? Did you translate them? Or did religious leaders? Thats what i thought.
In Lak`ech.
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So explain godlike jealousy to me then... how is it different?
 Quoting: Mr. HypGnostic



If you had a Child, and your Child wanted to give there love to other parents not you...Would you feel sad, (Jealous) that you could no longer give that child your gifts, someone else was doing it?

 Quoting: christian


Um im not a creator of life... i am a human... how can my emotions be the same as gods?

Yes i would be jealous but i wouldnt burn their soul in hell for eternity either...

I dont understand your point at all...
 Quoting: Mr. HypGnostic




I will give it to you in a way that might be more understanding to you..


You have a Child, you love him or her with all that you are...

Your Child chooses to join a Cult, you try everything you can to stop him from joining a Cult....He refuses....

You find out that this Cult drank poison including your child and all died...

You are now seperated from your child forever....

Is it your fault, that your child is now seperated from you?
Susie

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Because Gentiles only had 7 Universal Laws to adhere to

They are called the 7 Universal Laws given to all of Mankind.


The JEWS have 613 Commandments they wanted to adhere to from Moses...

Jesus Christ came to give both Jew and Gentile a WAY to reconcile with our Heavenly Father by his Blood Sacrafice.

 Quoting: christian


Its still the same god so im missing your point...
 Quoting: Mr. HypGnostic


Yes it is..But GOD only revealed himself to the Children of Israel..His Plans did not include Gentiles or Pagans...
 Quoting: christian


So what changed his mind about gentiles? Is god a he?
 Quoting: Mr. HypGnostic


John 3:16

For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.

Susie

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They collected ancient Scriptures into one book, called the Bible. They did not write a letter there.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975


So you trust that an evil emperor didnt manipulate even one word to his advantage?
 Quoting: Mr. HypGnostic


The OT was compared with the Scrolls from the Dead Sea and found translated accurate, e.g.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975


Oh yeah? Did you translate them? Or did religious leaders? Thats what i thought.
 Quoting: Mr. HypGnostic


Again, it does not matter if translated properly. Which the Srolls have proven being the case.
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If you had a Child, and your Child wanted to give there love to other parents not you...Would you feel sad, (Jealous) that you could no longer give that child your gifts, someone else was doing it?

 Quoting: christian


Um im not a creator of life... i am a human... how can my emotions be the same as gods?

Yes i would be jealous but i wouldnt burn their soul in hell for eternity either...

I dont understand your point at all...
 Quoting: Mr. HypGnostic




I will give it to you in a way that might be more understanding to you..


You have a Child, you love him or her with all that you are...

Your Child chooses to join a Cult, you try everything you can to stop him from joining a Cult....He refuses....

You find out that this Cult drank poison including your child and all died...

You are now seperated from your child forever....

Is it your fault, that your child is now seperated from you?
 Quoting: Mr. HypGnostic


Thats isnt how god is....

In gods situation he wouldve supplied the poison and he would have the antidote yet he would refuse to save the child.

And yes it is your fault for being a shitty parent...
In Lak`ech.
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So you trust that an evil emperor didnt manipulate even one word to his advantage?
 Quoting: Mr. HypGnostic


The OT was compared with the Scrolls from the Dead Sea and found translated accurate, e.g.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975


Oh yeah? Did you translate them? Or did religious leaders? Thats what i thought.
 Quoting: Mr. HypGnostic


Again, it does not matter if translated properly. Which the Srolls have proven being the case.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975


I dont even know what to say to that... okay, you are correct, whether they were translated properly or not is irrelevant.....
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The OT was compared with the Scrolls from the Dead Sea and found translated accurate, e.g.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975


Oh yeah? Did you translate them? Or did religious leaders? Thats what i thought.
 Quoting: Mr. HypGnostic


Again, it does not matter if translated properly. Which the Srolls have proven being the case.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975


I dont even know what to say to that... okay, you are correct, whether they were translated properly or not is irrelevant.....
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It proves they were not manipulated.
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Um im not a creator of life... i am a human... how can my emotions be the same as gods?

Yes i would be jealous but i wouldnt burn their soul in hell for eternity either...

I dont understand your point at all...
 Quoting: Mr. HypGnostic




I will give it to you in a way that might be more understanding to you..


You have a Child, you love him or her with all that you are...

Your Child chooses to join a Cult, you try everything you can to stop him from joining a Cult....He refuses....

You find out that this Cult drank poison including your child and all died...

You are now seperated from your child forever....

Is it your fault, that your child is now seperated from you?
 Quoting: Mr. HypGnostic


Thats isnt how god is....

In gods situation he wouldve supplied the poison and he would have the antidote yet he would refuse to save the child.

And yes it is your fault for being a shitty parent...
 Quoting: christian




Billions of People who believe in GOD who have been transformed by GOD to do good as we see in the Christian Walk are not doing it, because they think GOD is a *Shitty Parent* as you say...


Satan or the Cult offers the Poison...YOU make the choice to drink it or not....
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Its still the same god so im missing your point...
 Quoting: Mr. HypGnostic


Yes it is..But GOD only revealed himself to the Children of Israel..His Plans did not include Gentiles or Pagans...
 Quoting: christian


So what changed his mind about gentiles? Is god a he?
 Quoting: Mr. HypGnostic


John 3:16

For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.

 Quoting: christian


His one and only son who wasnt his son at all but his consciousness in human form. He knew he would return to heaven after he died so remind me again how is that a sacrifice? Sure he went through some pain but big deal... lots of people have died thousands of times worse than he did.

Plus this whole shitstorm of hell and satan was your gods fault in thefirst place... if he wasnt an idiot and couldve forseen satans rebellion we wouldnt be in this mess am i right?
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I will give it to you in a way that might be more understanding to you..


You have a Child, you love him or her with all that you are...

Your Child chooses to join a Cult, you try everything you can to stop him from joining a Cult....He refuses....

You find out that this Cult drank poison including your child and all died...

You are now seperated from your child forever....

Is it your fault, that your child is now seperated from you?
 Quoting: Mr. HypGnostic


Thats isnt how god is....

In gods situation he wouldve supplied the poison and he would have the antidote yet he would refuse to save the child.

And yes it is your fault for being a shitty parent...
 Quoting: christian




Billions of People who believe in GOD who have been transformed by GOD to do good as we see in the Christian Walk are not doing it, because they think GOD is a *Shitty Parent* as you say...


Satan or the Cult offers the Poison...YOU make the choice to drink it or not....
 Quoting: Mr. HypGnostic


Im not trying to pump up my ego but i am a great person with great morals and i think your book is a form of brainwashing through fear.

No... god offers me the poison by allowing satan to infiltrate my world and my mind. It is gods fault satan is on earth therefore it is gods fault the poison is here in the first place.
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Yes it is..But GOD only revealed himself to the Children of Israel..His Plans did not include Gentiles or Pagans...
 Quoting: christian


So what changed his mind about gentiles? Is god a he?
 Quoting: Mr. HypGnostic


John 3:16

For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.

 Quoting: christian


His one and only son who wasnt his son at all but his consciousness in human form. He knew he would return to heaven after he died so remind me again how is that a sacrifice? Sure he went through some pain but big deal... lots of people have died thousands of times worse than he did.

Plus this whole shitstorm of hell and satan was your gods fault in thefirst place... if he wasnt an idiot and couldve forseen satans rebellion we wouldnt be in this mess am i right?
 Quoting: Mr. HypGnostic



So if GOD did not create *Free Will* to begin with even with his Heavenly Angels what kind of GOD would that be?

If GOD Obliterated SATAN as soon as he rebelled what would that of taught us about LOVE? and what kind of GOD would that make the Creator of the Universe...


According to you, GOD should of created a bunch of Robots just like you can get your Computer to Obey your COMMANDS that makes your computer incapable of *LOVE*

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Here is a Bible verse in the New Test that says love is not jealous: 1 Corinthians 13:4 Love is patient. Love is kind. Love isn't jealous. It doesn't sing its own praises. It isn't arrogant.

Here is a Bible verse in the New Test that says God is love: 1 John 4:8 Whoever does not love does not know God, because God is love.

Here is a Bible verse in the Old Test that says God is a jealous God: Exodus 20:5 You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God

How do you explain that contradiction? Love is not supposed to be jealous, yet God is a jealous God. Why does his word contradict itself on this topic?
 Quoting: Mr. HypGnostic


1.Jealous GOD....GOD wants to give you the desires of your heart, he cannot do it, if you give your Love to a False GOD..

2. Love meaning accusing in *Human Jealousy* are you a wife that gets jealous if your husband takes time for his mother?

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So explain godlike jealousy to me then... how is it different?
 Quoting: Mr. HypGnostic



If you had a Child, and your Child wanted to give there love to other parents not you...Would you feel sad, (Jealous) that you could no longer give that child your gifts, someone else was doing it?

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If you wrote a book would you be jealous of one of the characters in it even though you were the one that created them?

Your analogy makes no sense Susie because it implies that there are other parents. Yet you insist yours are the only parents that exist. If there are no other gods what is there to be jealous of?
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Oh yeah? Did you translate them? Or did religious leaders? Thats what i thought.
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Again, it does not matter if translated properly. Which the Srolls have proven being the case.
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I dont even know what to say to that... okay, you are correct, whether they were translated properly or not is irrelevant.....
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It proves they were not manipulated.
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So your proof that the OT wasnt manipulated is another book that you believe wasnt manipulated or translated incorectly?
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Thats isnt how god is....

In gods situation he wouldve supplied the poison and he would have the antidote yet he would refuse to save the child.

And yes it is your fault for being a shitty parent...
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Billions of People who believe in GOD who have been transformed by GOD to do good as we see in the Christian Walk are not doing it, because they think GOD is a *Shitty Parent* as you say...


Satan or the Cult offers the Poison...YOU make the choice to drink it or not....
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Im not trying to pump up my ego but i am a great person with great morals and i think your book is a form of brainwashing through fear.

No... god offers me the poison by allowing satan to infiltrate my world and my mind. It is gods fault satan is on earth therefore it is gods fault the poison is here in the first place.
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Because you wanted GOD to created *Programmed* robots who obey his command without Free WILL...

Your a great person to yourself, but how you perceive yourself has nothing to do with Universal Creation and it's eternal purpose.

Susie

For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.....Matthew 6:21
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So what changed his mind about gentiles? Is god a he?
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John 3:16

For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.

 Quoting: christian


His one and only son who wasnt his son at all but his consciousness in human form. He knew he would return to heaven after he died so remind me again how is that a sacrifice? Sure he went through some pain but big deal... lots of people have died thousands of times worse than he did.

Plus this whole shitstorm of hell and satan was your gods fault in thefirst place... if he wasnt an idiot and couldve forseen satans rebellion we wouldnt be in this mess am i right?
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So if GOD did not create *Free Will* to begin with even with his Heavenly Angels what kind of GOD would that be?

If GOD Obliterated SATAN as soon as he rebelled what would that of taught us about LOVE? and what kind of GOD would that make the Creator of the Universe...


According to you, GOD should of created a bunch of Robots just like you can get your Computer to Obey your COMMANDS that makes your computer incapable of *LOVE*

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None of us have freewill my friend, our lives have all been predestined by a higher form of ourselves.

Um it wouldve been better than letting satan come down to earth and throw a curse on all of mankind that will capture our eternal souls if we dont read the correct book...

When did i say that?
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Billions of People who believe in GOD who have been transformed by GOD to do good as we see in the Christian Walk are not doing it, because they think GOD is a *Shitty Parent* as you say...


Satan or the Cult offers the Poison...YOU make the choice to drink it or not....
 Quoting: Mr. HypGnostic


Im not trying to pump up my ego but i am a great person with great morals and i think your book is a form of brainwashing through fear.

No... god offers me the poison by allowing satan to infiltrate my world and my mind. It is gods fault satan is on earth therefore it is gods fault the poison is here in the first place.
 Quoting: christian




Because you wanted GOD to created *Programmed* robots who obey his command without Free WILL...

Your a great person to yourself, but how you perceive yourself has nothing to do with Universal Creation and it's eternal purpose.

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I never once stated anything like that...
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