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Sandy Hook: Half real and half fake.

 
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" [link to www.ussearch.com]
[link to www.peoplefinders.com]
- OK...and? I have seen telephone directory listings for Nick Phelps before...in fact, you will find a link to one in the original post in this thread. What on earth does this demonstrate, other than the fact that a record has been established of a Nick Phelps bearing a relationship to Newtown?

"And here's the obituary for Nick's mother in 2009 [link to portlandtribune.com] (Scroll down for Theodora Maria Phelps)."
- And here is me asking, 'What does this have to do with the cost of tea in China?' This only suggests to me that someone named Theodora Maria Phelps, who may have had a son named Nick Phelps, died in 2009.
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Please note on the ussearch.com link I provided that Nicholas Burtis Phelps is related to a Michelle and a Theodora. According to the obituary, Theodora is Nick's mother and Michelle is his sister.

Michelle Phelps is now Michelle Weiss, according to the obituary. And Nick Phelps and Michelle Weiss are friends on facebook.

Also, do a search for Theodora Phelps in one of the search databases. You'll probably find 5 or 6 women at most. The chances of this not being the same Nick Phelps are quite slim.
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AC @8:27,

Do you have a picture of your "Nicholas Phelps?"

If not, quit blathering on about nothing. There are probably a couple dozen "Nick Phelpses" in America.
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by taking action and trying to make what they believe is a positive change in the world.

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The change this sorry world needs MOST is a little truth.

Here is one truth. MANY of these "gun tragedies" are engineered gun grabbing by those in power.

When someone shoots your kid Please DEMAND to see his/her body. I am afraid many of these "shot" kids are learning Chinese or Russian NOW.
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Please note on the ussearch.com link I provided that Nicholas Burtis Phelps is related to a Michelle and a Theodora. According to the obituary, Theodora is Nick's mother and Michelle is his sister.

Michelle Phelps is now Michelle Weiss, according to the obituary. And Nick Phelps and Michelle Weiss are friends on facebook.

Also, do a search for Theodora Phelps in one of the search databases. You'll probably find 5 or 6 women at most. The chances of this not being the same Nick Phelps are quite slim.


I am done, as continued discussion seems entirely useless at this point. Unless and until you can show that a Phelps couple who may (have) live(d) in Newtown are two indistinguishable dopplegangers for the Sextons, I will take the photographic evidence at its face value. I do not see anyone here disputing that there are people named Phelps in this world, but rather I find folks merely observing the fact that the Sextons are non-differentiable from the people trying (unsuccessfully) to work up tears while being identified as Nick and Laura Phelps.

I find it curious that you seem to hasten people to engage in the idiocy of thinking out of context. Instead of noticing that there is a spate of unusual doubles and lookalikes observed in association with an event that is certainly being reported with a thousand oddities, inconsistencies, contradictions, and irregularities, it seems that you advocate the decontexualization of data as the best method of interpreting it. I resist this notion, as I find it fatuous. I likewise find it notable that the complete photographic record before me demonstrates a stronger common visual identity shared between the Sexton couple and the purported Phelps couple than is demonstrated in seriatim images I possess of my wife and myself. The odds against this occurring innocently as a freak incident, especially *in the context* of the gross reportage of an event fraught with apparent contrivance and inconsistencies, are astronomical, and its probability is virtually nil.

If you truly feel that evidentiary data should be decontextualized in order to best interpret it, then further discussion is useless. If you must cling to the notion that a person who may or may not truly exist cannot be portrayed or represented by another, no matter how insurmountable the totality of photographic evidence to the contrary, then we have nothing to discuss. My empirical sensibilities simply cannot accommodate your standards of inquiry, just as your non-empirical sensibilities apparently cannot accommodate mine.

Adieu, and good luck.
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AC @8:27,

Do you have a picture of your "Nicholas Phelps?"

If not, quit blathering on about nothing. There are probably a couple dozen "Nick Phelpses" in America.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1246509


You're basically asking for a link to his facebook page. I'm not going to sink to that level just to prove that I'm right.

Yes, there are many men named Nicholas Phelps in the country. But Nicholas Phelps of Sandy Hook is almost certainly the son of Theodora Phelps.

Anyway, since I strongly suspect that you're a disinfo agent, it's probably not worth my time to try to prove any of this to you. I've already wasted enough of my day on you.
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AC 9:32,

Dude, Lighten up.

Everyone is saying the same thing.

"Nick and Laura Phelps" are actors, and poor ones at that.

Their real names are Richard and Jennifer (Greenberg) Sexton.

Anybody with half a brain can see this.
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AC @8:27,

Do you have a picture of your "Nicholas Phelps?"

If not, quit blathering on about nothing. There are probably a couple dozen "Nick Phelpses" in America.
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You're basically asking for a link to his facebook page. I'm not going to sink to that level just to prove that I'm right.

Yes, there are many men named Nicholas Phelps in the country. But Nicholas Phelps of Sandy Hook is almost certainly the son of Theodora Phelps.

Anyway, since I strongly suspect that you're a disinfo agent, it's probably not worth my time to try to prove any of this to you. I've already wasted enough of my day on you.
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You are still blathering on about nothing. Let's see if we can make this simple enough for you to understand:

1. Just because there is someone named "Nicholas Phelps" who lives somewhere near Sandy Hook DOES NOT MEAN HE HAD ANYTHING WHATSOEVER TO DO WITH THE TRAGEDY OR THE MSM INTERVIEW OF PEOPLE PRETENDING TO BE THE PHELPSES. It is likely TPTB took the identity of a real couple with real credentials showing they lived there so they could bring in actors to play the role of he and his wife and send the real Nick and Laura packing with a suitcase full of money.

2. The identity of the real Nicholas Phelps's mother is even less relevant to anything.

3. We all know "Nick and Laura Phelps" interviewed on the MSM are really Richard and Jennifer (Greenberg) Sexton. That has been proven by photographic evidence, acting comparisons, etc.

Got it yet?
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AC 9:32,

Dude, Lighten up.

Everyone is saying the same thing.

"Nick and Laura Phelps" are actors, and poor ones at that.

Their real names are Richard and Jennifer (Greenberg) Sexton.

Anybody with half a brain can see this.
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So, by "Lighten up," you mean that I should just ignore that part of "Everyone" who are clearly *not* "saying the same thing," and who you suggest have less than half a brain?
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I am done, as continued discussion seems entirely useless at this point. Unless and until you can show that a Phelps couple who may (have) live(d) in Newtown are two indistinguishable dopplegangers for the Sextons, I will take the photographic evidence at its face value. I do not see anyone here disputing that there are people named Phelps in this world, but rather I find folks merely observing the fact that the Sextons are non-differentiable from the people trying (unsuccessfully) to work up tears while being identified as Nick and Laura Phelps.

I find it curious that you seem to hasten people to engage in the idiocy of thinking out of context. Instead of noticing that there is a spate of unusual doubles and lookalikes observed in association with an event that is certainly being reported with a thousand oddities, inconsistencies, contradictions, and irregularities, it seems that you advocate the decontexualization of data as the best method of interpreting it. I resist this notion, as I find it fatuous. I likewise find it notable that the complete photographic record before me demonstrates a stronger common visual identity shared between the Sexton couple and the purported Phelps couple than is demonstrated in seriatim images I possess of my wife and myself. The odds against this occurring innocently as a freak incident, especially *in the context* of the gross reportage of an event fraught with apparent contrivance and inconsistencies, are astronomical, and its probability is virtually nil.

If you truly feel that evidentiary data should be decontextualized in order to best interpret it, then further discussion is useless. If you must cling to the notion that a person who may or may not truly exist cannot be portrayed or represented by another, no matter how insurmountable the totality of photographic evidence to the contrary, then we have nothing to discuss. My empirical sensibilities simply cannot accommodate your standards of inquiry, just as your non-empirical sensibilities apparently cannot accommodate mine.

Adieu, and good luck.
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My point in all this is that Nick and Laura Phelps have well established identities and personal histories as Nick and Laura Phelps. And the only evidence I have seen that they are actually the Sextons is the comparison of a few photographs.

By your reasoning, Sarah Palin and Tina Fey must be the same person since they look so much alike!

Yes, Nick and Laura look a lot like the Sextons. I agree! But nobody thinking rationally would find this to be sufficient proof that they are anybody other than who they say they are.

You need better evidence if you want to prove that they're the same people.

For instance, do the Phelpses share any of the same family family members as the Sextons, or even some of the same facebook friends? Are the two couples listed anywhere as having resided at the same address, or even in the same city? Do any of Nick and Laura's four kids look like the two Sexton daughters? Do any of Nick's and Laura's siblings look like Richard's or Jennifer's siblings?

Has anybody discovered any other connection between these two couples aside from the similarity in appearance that suggests that they are the same people?


P.S. Here's a photo of Brett Greenberg, the boy who is supposedly playing Carlos Soto, from 2012 [link to www.facebook.com] Do you really think they look that much alike?
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Yes, Nick and Laura look a lot like the Sextons. I agree! But nobody thinking rationally would find this to be sufficient proof that they are anybody other than who they say they are.

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... of course only DNA proof will be only the real proof...
but really what is the chance that 1 couple look like another couple?
ok.. on 7 billion people on earth it's possible.

and now those couple are linked to "strange activity" on many events?

try to calculate the probability.
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Yes, Nick and Laura look a lot like the Sextons. I agree! But nobody thinking rationally would find this to be sufficient proof that they are anybody other than who they say they are.

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... of course only DNA proof will be only the real proof...
but really what is the chance that 1 couple look like another couple?
ok.. on 7 billion people on earth it's possible.

and now those couple are linked to "strange activity" on many events?

try to calculate the probability.
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Well done, Fred.

Now add in the likelihood that BOTH the females are PROVEN actresses BEFORE Sandy Hook, and that the MSM chose THIS COUPLE to interview the day of the tragedy from among the 580 sets of other parents who also did not lose anyone in the tragedy.
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Yes, Nick and Laura look a lot like the Sextons. I agree! But nobody thinking rationally would find this to be sufficient proof that they are anybody other than who they say they are.

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... of course only DNA proof will be only the real proof...
but really what is the chance that 1 couple look like another couple?
ok.. on 7 billion people on earth it's possible.

and now those couple are linked to "strange activity" on many events?

try to calculate the probability.
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Well done, Fred.

Now add in the likelihood that BOTH the females are PROVEN actresses BEFORE Sandy Hook, and that the MSM chose THIS COUPLE to interview the day of the tragedy from among the 580 sets of other parents who also did not lose anyone in the tragedy.
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now, the question is why?
why they did this cnn interview?
did cnn know who they are? and use them because "real" parent dont want to talk much?

or its to be accepted by other vicitim parents and be legitimate in support group, fund raising...

did they work for USA like FBI, CIA... or for foreign like mossad?

or they are just retards who run on every events to play the fake witness?
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There are so many purposeful holes in the narrative, just about any theory is better than the one, or possibly three as determined by the initial reports, still ghoulishly morphing across the mass(public) mind. An experiment in mass-mind shock reality?

Asking questions never posed allows insights otherwise ignored. For example: there were two more sets of doors facing the ball-park area. Why march kids past a crime scene if no such action was needed to get them out of the building safely? That line of kids(as pictured) would have simply exited the school and then straight up the road... the purposeful lack of any interior shots(even before the incident) gave the false impression going through the front doors was the only way out.

The fact is the interior hallway linked all 21 rooms... (I posted this information previously while searching for a better answer about the actual school starting times...) in the interview the author stated she arrived at 8:45 a.m. and kids were already in the library checking out books. She was there to interview the library staff and was quite impressed with the school. The interior shots showed a well functioning school with lots of normal activities clearly evident. This was in sept. 2012.

Another example of missing answers is motive. The false initial narratives implied both a motive and entrance into the school. The facts, which later came out, then dissolved the motive as if that was the original game plan. So what was the true motive of the murderer? There is no credible information linking Adam to the school, the teachers or the students. Therefore, there is no rational motive for any of the killings. Now we have an irrational subject... people must now fill in the gaps... this thread and thousands more right now across the net prove a different motive in action.

How odd that Adam Lanza was said to be about 120 pounds. I have yet to see a single, verifiable document regarding his physical/stats/appearance. His mug-shot when enlarged is clearly photo-shopped(name the object in his left-eye?). So how tall was he really? A 120 pounds or less means a waist size of what a ten year old? This guy is a leaf waiting to be blown over in a cross-wind... why the complete lack of any actual identifiable photo's? No family pictures even in better times? This lack of verifiable information is purposeful.

The irony of the story is that his brother(as reported) actually identified him as the shooter and killing his mother(is this why his face-book page vanished soon thereafter?)before the Lanza house had been officially entered. I posted this info as well. Adam was said to be quite the computer expert, but there is not a single piece of public evidence he even owned a computer. What ISP did he use? Where was that web-page hosted he was claimed to have? Where is the picture of that hard-drive? Was Adam Lanza even alive on the 14th? The only ones who know for sure are under no pressure to say anything... and there is no suggestion they ever will be considering the genuine secrecy which actually surrounds the incident itself.

If the real goal was to induce cognitive dissonance on a nation-wide scale and thereby create emotional distress, deeper anxiety, foreboding, erosion of trust, plus other factors where fear and anger can flourish is that not a motive as well? So who benefits?

The officials have secured and sealed all relevant records... so who are they really protecting? Keep asking questions the authorities do want answered and that is the only arrow of truth...
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There are so many purposeful holes in the narrative, just about any theory is better than the one, or possibly three as determined by the initial reports, still ghoulishly morphing across the mass(public) mind. An experiment in mass-mind shock reality?

Asking questions never posed allows insights otherwise ignored. For example: there were two more sets of doors facing the ball-park area. Why march kids past a crime scene if no such action was needed to get them out of the building safely? That line of kids(as pictured) would have simply exited the school and then straight up the road... the purposeful lack of any interior shots(even before the incident) gave the false impression going through the front doors was the only way out.

The fact is the interior hallway linked all 21 rooms... (I posted this information previously while searching for a better answer about the actual school starting times...) in the interview the author stated she arrived at 8:45 a.m. and kids were already in the library checking out books. She was there to interview the library staff and was quite impressed with the school. The interior shots showed a well functioning school with lots of normal activities clearly evident. This was in sept. 2012.

Another example of missing answers is motive. The false initial narratives implied both a motive and entrance into the school. The facts, which later came out, then dissolved the motive as if that was the original game plan. So what was the true motive of the murderer? There is no credible information linking Adam to the school, the teachers or the students. Therefore, there is no rational motive for any of the killings. Now we have an irrational subject... people must now fill in the gaps... this thread and thousands more right now across the net prove a different motive in action.

How odd that Adam Lanza was said to be about 120 pounds. I have yet to see a single, verifiable document regarding his physical/stats/appearance. His mug-shot when enlarged is clearly photo-shopped(name the object in his left-eye?). So how tall was he really? A 120 pounds or less means a waist size of what a ten year old? This guy is a leaf waiting to be blown over in a cross-wind... why the complete lack of any actual identifiable photo's? No family pictures even in better times? This lack of verifiable information is purposeful.

The irony of the story is that his brother(as reported) actually identified him as the shooter and killing his mother(is this why his face-book page vanished soon thereafter?)before the Lanza house had been officially entered. I posted this info as well. Adam was said to be quite the computer expert, but there is not a single piece of public evidence he even owned a computer. What ISP did he use? Where was that web-page hosted he was claimed to have? Where is the picture of that hard-drive? Was Adam Lanza even alive on the 14th? The only ones who know for sure are under no pressure to say anything... and there is no suggestion they ever will be considering the genuine secrecy which actually surrounds the incident itself.

If the real goal was to induce cognitive dissonance on a nation-wide scale and thereby create emotional distress, deeper anxiety, foreboding, erosion of trust, plus other factors where fear and anger can flourish is that not a motive as well? So who benefits?

The officials have secured and sealed all relevant records... so who are they really protecting? Keep asking questions the authorities do want answered and that is the only arrow of truth...
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A++++ post!
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"By your reasoning, Sarah Palin and Tina Fey must be the same person since they look so much alike!"

- No, Deliberate Liar, this does *not* exemplify my reasoning,as you well know. My reasoning dictates that Sarah Palin and Tina Fey are completely different people, as can be established by a number of points, including:

* The photographic record shows them to be two people who simply look very similar to each other, while also disclosing characteristic differences that allow them to be diffrentiated;

* There is substantial evidence negating the prospect of their sameness (e.g., Sarah Palin and Tina Fey have been documented to be at different places at the same time, with a verifiable image of one even being broadcast live while watching a broadcast image of the other;

* Sarah Palin and Tina Fey, when viewed in association with their spouses, may not be seen as identical correspondents. A person joined with their spouse becomes identifiable not just upon the basis of his/her own, individual appearance, but also upon the dyadic appearance and relationship of the couple. Sarah Palin and Tina Fey are reasonably disqualified from being the same person on this basis alone.

It is truly ironic that you choose to slander me by crafting an analogy that actually undermines your point. You have gone to great lengths to establish that some other couple named Phelps may exist, and if so that negates the possibility that another couple named Sexton could portray them. Yet, you deploy an analogy involving a subject who is known to have been publicly portrayed by another. This undermines your basic premise, making it an odd vehicle for your malicious misrepresentation of my reasoning.


"Yes, Nick and Laura look a lot like the Sextons."

- Ah, the old strategy of distorting and obfuscating by understatement! Examination of an expansive trove of photographic evidence shows them to more than "look a lot like the Sextons," it shows them most likely to *be* the Sextons. This conclusion is especially compelled by examining these images in the context of the subjects comprising a couple. The odds against two dopplegangers for the individual members of one couple existing in union as another couple are extraordinary. When one also considers the contextual fact that the proposed pair of dopplegangers who appear on camera have a long history of being observed to portray other people in public events of dubious verity, the conclusion becomes nearly ineluctable to an intelligent mind.

"But nobody thinking rationally would find this to be sufficient proof that they are anybody other than who they say they are."

- And nobody who is even remotely familiar with the term "rational" would find it so for you to suppose that you have ever seen a real Phelps couple saying "who...they are" (or anything else, for that matter.) The only thing you have seen is an image of two people, identifiable from photographic evidence as known actors, joined as what was stated to be the Phelps couple while performing oddly on camera.

The moronic analogy you craft, along with the unreasonable bent of your contentions, would require you to be an abject imbecile were you to frame them in earnest. Since your compositions otherwise display some intelligence, however, I am given to the more charitable assumption (at least in terms of intellect) that you are actually just a purposeful liar and dissembler. I do not know what distortions, fabrications, and idiotic rationale you will apply to these comments, and I do not really care. Rave on as you wish, obfuscate and dissimulate as you will, but the fact remains that it would be an *extremely* unlikely coincidence for a married couple of actors, with an established pattern of falsely portraying figures in suspicious public events, to comprise mirror-images of another couple supposedly drawn at random from a pool of people found at yet another suspicious public event. The reasonable mind would conclude that the actors are who they appear to be (rather than who they claim to be), regardless of what other real people may exist in the world.
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Sorry, but I think I need to step away from this discussion for a while. It was not my intent to slander you, and I apologize for coming across that way. You make some interesting points, and I will take them into consideration. But I think maybe it would be best if we agreed to disagree on this for now. I don't know about you, but my spouse is starting to get pretty annoyed about the pile of dirty dishes in the sink. :)
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Ooo....oooo.....

The vanquished vacates the field. The triumphant enjoys the spoils.

WELL DONE!!
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by taking action and trying to make what they believe is a positive change in the world.

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The change this sorry world needs MOST is a little truth.

Here is one truth. MANY of these "gun tragedies" are engineered gun grabbing by those in power.

When someone shoots your kid Please DEMAND to see his/her body. I am afraid many of these "shot" kids are learning Chinese or Russian NOW.
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really yhope you dont believe that--pretty absurd assertation.
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AC @8:27,

Do you have a picture of your "Nicholas Phelps?"

If not, quit blathering on about nothing. There are probably a couple dozen "Nick Phelpses" in America.
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You're basically asking for a link to his facebook page. I'm not going to sink to that level just to prove that I'm right.

Yes, there are many men named Nicholas Phelps in the country. But Nicholas Phelps of Sandy Hook is almost certainly the son of Theodora Phelps.

Anyway, since I strongly suspect that you're a disinfo agent, it's probably not worth my time to try to prove any of this to you. I've already wasted enough of my day on you.
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another words you get asked for something called.....wait for it....wait for it....PROOF!!! And you REFUSE? Your credibility as a "truther" is dwindling when you do that...Just sayin...
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AC @8:27,

Do you have a picture of your "Nicholas Phelps?"

If not, quit blathering on about nothing. There are probably a couple dozen "Nick Phelpses" in America.
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You're basically asking for a link to his facebook page. I'm not going to sink to that level just to prove that I'm right.

Yes, there are many men named Nicholas Phelps in the country. But Nicholas Phelps of Sandy Hook is almost certainly the son of Theodora Phelps.

Anyway, since I strongly suspect that you're a disinfo agent, it's probably not worth my time to try to prove any of this to you. I've already wasted enough of my day on you.
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another words you get asked for something called.....wait for it....wait for it....PROOF!!! And you REFUSE? Your credibility as a "truther" is dwindling when you do that...Just sayin...
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Ummmm, I don't think I'd be considered the "truther" in this debate. I'm arguing that Nick Phelps and Richard Sexton are most likely separate people. Since I don't think Nick's FB page has been posted on GLP yet, I'm not going to further violate his privacy by providing the link.
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I can see your point a little--but remember--I purposely did that as an experiment--to show how many people would jump here---just by me throwing out UNPROVEN statements.
I feel I provided a service to the people here that trully have a sound mind--and ask questions--but still have common sense and logic, when trying to wrap their brains around this tragedy. Again--using logic--this was NOT a hoax! In no way would the govt be fortunate enough to find 20 SETS of parents willing to play like their children are dead for years--or forever. 20 SETS of parents living in the same town, with kids all at the same school--willing to put their kids through this kind of emotional, psychological, and even physical traumas. Not to mention the trauma this puts on siblings..Yes there are oddities with all the stories and information out there. But in most large scale tragedies--that happens. I would be more concerned if everyones stories MATCHED! Do I wish authorities would come public with more information solidifying the story out there? SURE! but to the tinfoilers that wouldnt matter anyway--they would just say it is more lies. To logical people it would help.


Kick me off of here if you will..so much for free speech, eh?

my experiment worked proving just how easily biased, and easy to manipulate that you \"truthers\" are. It is sad--I had no proof--nothing...just made up a few statements--and most bit hard...That is what happens when you have your mind made up on something. Even if the parents and authorities themselves came out debunking--most of you STILL would not believe. I proved you all sooo biased. You took what I said with NO PROOF--one person almost got me on the air--with NO PROOF...LOL--Thank you for proving my point to the many people that have been following me and watching me do this.

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You folded as soon as the radio host called your bluff and asked if you would come on the air. I bet he knew you wouldnt. You were the one who got so easily busted, Rob.

What a fruit cake.

Does anyone know if intentionally posting disinformation can get you banned? Just curious what the \"rules\" are around here....
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Keep thinking that ...you have your version, I have the truth....

some of you were shown to be easily manipulated...and naive. Sleep well on that...shows your true character
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Sorry, Rob. While I actually thought you had made some good points, you are now on my list of suspected disinfo agents, and I can no longer trust anything you say.

I have expended vast amounts of time and energy trying to separate out the truth from the disinfo being spread around here. So, even if you're not a paid disinfo agent, you're definitely still a dipshit.
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OK, you quoted my post from a few days ago. What's your point?
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Hey Robbie, back so soon??

Did your section leader there in Langley at least give you a good spanking for getting so thoroughly spanked?

Amazing what the taxpayer has to pay for in the way of "services" and "national security" these days....

RANK INCOMPETENCE.
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Hey Robbie, back so soon??

Did your section leader there in Langley at least give you a good spanking for getting so thoroughly spanked?

Amazing what the taxpayer has to pay for in the way of "services" and "national security" these days....

RANK INCOMPETENCE.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 810909


The fact that your ego is so big--that I would HAVE to be govt paid lackey to get one over on you--or anybody here, right? Not just some middle aged avg Joe Schmo--that works in the food industry, has 2 kids--a mortgage, all the normal things that avg people have--it is inconceivable to you--that someone like ME could do that right? --AGAIN my point is made--you SWEAR to yourself that something is a certain way--without proof! You keep proving my original point over and over again....Thank you. God, you make this TOO easy.
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OK, you quoted my post from a few days ago. What's your point?
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you keep reading--you can see very clearly--tin foilers here prove my original point time and again...its amusing--like mice in a cage...manipulated. But yet they fight SO hard to be independent--no one can manipulate them--well I just did--again.
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Normal people don't spend so much time on "conspiracy theory" sites trying so hard (and so horribly inadequately, I'll add) to debunk other peoples' well-researched information.

If you were so "average" you wouldn't want to be anywhere near a site like this.

Nice try.

Thanks for playing.

Say hi to Brennan for me, and all your other water-boarding buddies.
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Yes, Nick and Laura look a lot like the Sextons. I agree! But nobody thinking rationally would find this to be sufficient proof that they are anybody other than who they say they are.

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... of course only DNA proof will be only the real proof...
but really what is the chance that 1 couple look like another couple?
ok.. on 7 billion people on earth it's possible.

and now those couple are linked to "strange activity" on many events?

try to calculate the probability.
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Well done, Fred.

Now add in the likelihood that BOTH the females are PROVEN actresses BEFORE Sandy Hook, and that the MSM chose THIS COUPLE to interview the day of the tragedy from among the 580 sets of other parents who also did not lose anyone in the tragedy.
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Kinda like the odds of any govt entity finding 20 sets of parents --all in the same town--all with kids at the same school--that would agree to making their families, friends and the world believe that their child was dead--and putting their children in hiding--hence why this was not a hoax--some of you might just be catching on a little.
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Normal people don't spend so much time on "conspiracy theory" sites trying so hard (and so horribly inadequately, I'll add) to debunk other peoples' well-researched information.

If you were so "average" you wouldn't want to be anywhere near a site like this.

Nice try.

Thanks for playing.

Say hi to Brennan for me, and all your other water-boarding buddies.
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Ya know why I am here--and enjoy this--because I like a good debate--I like it even more when I have logic, common sense, and more factual information than the other person on my side--makes it that much more fun knocking people down--figuratively speaking of course. Think what you want-Idc--I just know many of you are hypocrites here. Want everyone to be free thinkers--look at all the stories--make up our minds for ourselves--but when WE or I in this case disagree with the viewpoints some of YOU have here--I am called a shill--assumptions are made of who I am and what I do...That is the hypocrisy--you all fight so hard to be free thinkers--dont let anyone else tell you how to think--but you all do it to "shills" here--maybe not by force--but close enough--I find that interesting and very odd. Pushing YOUR views on other people--with no proof--even more odd.
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Normal people don't spend so much time on "conspiracy theory" sites trying so hard (and so horribly inadequately, I'll add) to debunk other peoples' well-researched information.

If you were so "average" you wouldn't want to be anywhere near a site like this.

Nice try.

Thanks for playing.

Say hi to Brennan for me, and all your other water-boarding buddies.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 810909


Ya know why I am here--and enjoy this--because I like a good debate--I like it even more when I have logic, common sense, and more factual information than the other person on my side--makes it that much more fun knocking people down--figuratively speaking of course. Think what you want-Idc--I just know many of you are hypocrites here. Want everyone to be free thinkers--look at all the stories--make up our minds for ourselves--but when WE or I in this case disagree with the viewpoints some of YOU have here--I am called a shill--assumptions are made of who I am and what I do...That is the hypocrisy--you all fight so hard to be free thinkers--dont let anyone else tell you how to think--but you all do it to "shills" here--maybe not by force--but close enough--I find that interesting and very odd. Pushing YOUR views on other people--with no proof--even more odd.
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This guy is a proven liar.

Rob83, simply saying you've debunked all the "tin foil hat wearers" doesn't make it true. What, of substance, have you provided in your numerous posts?
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Yes, Nick and Laura look a lot like the Sextons. I agree! But nobody thinking rationally would find this to be sufficient proof that they are anybody other than who they say they are.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25326483


... of course only DNA proof will be only the real proof...
but really what is the chance that 1 couple look like another couple?
ok.. on 7 billion people on earth it's possible.

and now those couple are linked to "strange activity" on many events?

try to calculate the probability.
 Quoting: Fred 33015295


Well done, Fred.

Now add in the likelihood that BOTH the females are PROVEN actresses BEFORE Sandy Hook, and that the MSM chose THIS COUPLE to interview the day of the tragedy from among the 580 sets of other parents who also did not lose anyone in the tragedy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14457252


Kinda like the odds of any govt entity finding 20 sets of parents --all in the same town--all with kids at the same school--that would agree to making their families, friends and the world believe that their child was dead--and putting their children in hiding--hence why this was not a hoax--some of you might just be catching on a little.
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pretty good odds when you plant them...do some research

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