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Rob83  User ID: 34010765  United States02/09/2013 12:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Robbie\'s been busted. Robbie\'s been busted. Robbie\'s been busted!!!!! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25579404 Go away, Robbie. You posted that bogus thread pretending to be a Newton resident with a female friend who saw on of the victim children on their lawn early in the morning. And now.... Robbie\'s been busted. Robbie\'s been busted. Robbie\'s been busted!!!!! Go away, Robbie. Kick me off of here if you will..so much for free speech, eh? my experiment worked proving just how easily biased, and easy to manipulate that you \"truthers\" are. It is sad--I had no proof--nothing...just made up a few statements--and most bit hard...That is what happens when you have your mind made up on something. Even if the parents and authorities themselves came out debunking--most of you STILL would not believe. I proved you all sooo biased. You took what I said with NO PROOF--one person almost got me on the air--with NO PROOF...LOL--Thank you for proving my point to the many people that have been following me and watching me do this.  You folded as soon as the radio host called your bluff and asked if you would come on the air. I bet he knew you wouldnt. You were the one who got so easily busted, Rob. What a fruit cake. Does anyone know if intentionally posting disinformation can get you banned? Just curious what the \"rules\" are around here.... Keep thinking that ...you have your version, I have the truth.... some of you were shown to be easily manipulated...and naive. Sleep well on that...shows your true character |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 25326483 United States02/09/2013 01:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "[T]he claim that the families are faking their grief..." Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17586504 - Is one that is not generally being made. What I find is that people are generally noticing how the families of little children who were purported to have been suddenly and viciously butchered are found laughing, smiling, and glowing about it as they pony themselves up to the media shortly thereafter. In fact, I find the most common criticism of these purported family members is that they are not showing any real grief at all (no tears, etc.), not that their non-existent displays and paroxysms are being faked (noticing the non-incidence of something is not the same as claiming that it is being faked, as you probably well know). As such, your analysis would promise to be poorly focused at best, and most likely irrelevant. You're right. "The families are faking their grief" may not be the best way to phrase things. Maybe something like, "The families aren't grief-stricken enough" would work better. "Therefore, the family members of the Sandy Hook victims must be actors!!" Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17586504 -Ah, the good ol' straw man argument in its finest form! No, I do not purport that folks whom I have seen acting in a manner absolutely irreconcilable to the proposition that they lost their children in an act of savage slaughter just shortly beforehand constitutes conclusive proof that they are actors(although, I admit that observing this for only 10-15 seconds, let alone 10-15 minutes, stands as compelling evidence all by itself). You see, even after seeing these odd exhibitions, I was not ready to accept the claim that actors were used at Sandy Hook, simply because that claim seemed so extreme and extraordinary. What convinced me was the experience of seeing people identified by the media as surviving family members appear online with published resumes and photo albums under completely different names and stated identities. Reluctant as I was to believe it, I had to concede to the absolute visual and documentary evidence appearing before my eyes. So, at least to the extent where it addresses me and most of the people I have encountered, you must remove the "Therefore" from your above snippet in order to avoid having it distort the argument. I know that somebody found the linkedin page for a Robby Parker in Utah. While I agree that he looks similar to Emilie's father in his linkedin photo, I'm not convinced that he's the same person. Have possible separate identities been found for other surviving family members as well? YES... "Nick and Laura Phelps" are really Richard and Jennifer Greenberg Sexton "Rachel D'Avino" is related to the Greenberg family. Vicki Soto's cousin (male) is a member of the same family. "Nurse Cox" is really Carrie(Sp.) Turner of "X-Files" Episode 7, season five. I'm sure there are several others...but that's a start for ya... you need to provide some proof...links even--otherwise BS flag is gonna go up. I was the one who "busted" Rob83. Thread: Sandy Hook: Half real and half fake. (Page 4) Nevertheless, I am quite skeptical of this particular list of "matches." Nick and Laura Phelps: While I agree that they bear a strong resemblance to the Sextons, these two have well-established identities as Nick and Laura Phelps. [link to www.ussearch.com] [link to www.peoplefinders.com] And here's the obituary for Nick's mother in 2009 [link to portlandtribune.com] (Scroll down for Theodora Maria Phelps). Rachel D'Avino: From What I understand, Rachel has been matched to this girl in the Greenberg photos. GREEN shirt - [link to picasaweb.google.com (secure)] Center - [link to picasaweb.google.com (secure)] In dress with green flowers- [link to picasaweb.google.com (secure)] These photos from the Greenberg album were taken in late 2007. The girl looks like she was about 14 or 15 at the time, which would make her 19 or 20 now. Rachel D'Avino, on the other hand, was 29 when she died. She had earned a bachelor's degree from the University of Hartford, a master's degree from Post University, and she was working on her Ph.D. at the University of St. Joseph in Hartford. Unless you want to accuse these three different educational institutions of being part of this conspiracy, it would appear that Rachel D'Avino has been living as Rachel D'Avino for at least 10 years. So I don't see how she could be the girl in the Greenberg photos. IMO, they don't look much like each other anyway. Vicki Soto's cousin (male): I am guessing you mean James Wiltsie [link to bostonherald.com] who has been "matched" with the man in this photo [link to lh3.googleusercontent.com (secure)] Well, they do have similar hair... However, Wiltsie has a rounder face, a smaller chin, smaller ears with attached earlobes, a smaller nose, rounder eyebrows, and a different shape to his eyes. Here's another photo of Wiltsie in case this isn't all clear from the Boston Herald photo. [link to oi47.tinypic.com] It's a screenshot from this interview [link to writingshares.com] Sally Cox: As I've said elsewhere, Sally Cox is about 60 years old, while Karri Turner is 46. Here's a photo of Karri Turner from 2009. [link to www.google.com] Aside from the age difference, Sally Cox's ears are lower down on her head; Sally's nose curves out, while Karri's curves in, and Karri has a flatter, wider browline. IMO, while they look a bit similar face-on, they look quite different in profile. [link to oi49.tinypic.com] More importantly, Sally Cox has been working as the school nurse at Sandy Hook Elementary since at least 2006. Here, she was quoted near the end of a 2006 Newtown Bee article. [link to newtownbee.com] And here's a photo from 2010 of her working at the school. [link to newtown.patch.com] That's a long time for Karri Turner to have been masquerading as an elementary school nurse. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1097875  South Africa02/09/2013 01:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Kick me off of here if you will..so much for free speech, eh? my experiment worked proving just how easily biased, and easy to manipulate that you \"truthers\" are. It is sad--I had no proof--nothing...just made up a few statements--and most bit hard...That is what happens when you have your mind made up on something. Even if the parents and authorities themselves came out debunking--most of you STILL would not believe. I proved you all sooo biased. You took what I said with NO PROOF--one person almost got me on the air--with NO PROOF...LOL--Thank you for proving my point to the many people that have been following me and watching me do this. You folded as soon as the radio host called your bluff and asked if you would come on the air. I bet he knew you wouldnt. You were the one who got so easily busted, Rob. What a fruit cake. Does anyone know if intentionally posting disinformation can get you banned? Just curious what the \"rules\" are around here.... Keep thinking that ...you have your version, I have the truth.... some of you were shown to be easily manipulated...and naive. Sleep well on that...shows your true character The truth??? You lied openly in the OP of your thread and no HAVE ADMITTED YOU LIED on two different threads. Take not people. These government psyops simply have no notion of what the truth is, and actually believe their own lies are "the truth." I knew if I invited you on my show you would quickly go silent and cave, and you did. Another public service, compliments of the REAL media remnants in this once-great nation... For the Republic and Its Creator, Steve Martin Host, The Aroostook Watchmen Radio Show Over The Constitutional Radio Network, THE CONSCIENCE OF MAINE 780 AM in Monticello, 1700 AM in Lewiston, 88.1 FM in Westbrook, 88.1 FM in Portland, 96.5 FM in Brewer, 96.5 FM in Bangor, Maine. [email protected] 207-532-3635 AroostookWatchmen.com |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 25326483 United States02/09/2013 01:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Robbie\'s been busted. Robbie\'s been busted. Robbie\'s been busted!!!!! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25579404 Go away, Robbie. You posted that bogus thread pretending to be a Newton resident with a female friend who saw on of the victim children on their lawn early in the morning. And now.... Robbie\'s been busted. Robbie\'s been busted. Robbie\'s been busted!!!!! Go away, Robbie. Kick me off of here if you will..so much for free speech, eh? my experiment worked proving just how easily biased, and easy to manipulate that you \"truthers\" are. It is sad--I had no proof--nothing...just made up a few statements--and most bit hard...That is what happens when you have your mind made up on something. Even if the parents and authorities themselves came out debunking--most of you STILL would not believe. I proved you all sooo biased. You took what I said with NO PROOF--one person almost got me on the air--with NO PROOF...LOL--Thank you for proving my point to the many people that have been following me and watching me do this. You folded as soon as the radio host called your bluff and asked if you would come on the air. I bet he knew you wouldnt. You were the one who got so easily busted, Rob. What a fruit cake. Does anyone know if intentionally posting disinformation can get you banned? Just curious what the \"rules\" are around here.... Keep thinking that ...you have your version, I have the truth.... some of you were shown to be easily manipulated...and naive. Sleep well on that...shows your true character Sorry, Rob. While I actually thought you had made some good points, you are now on my list of suspected disinfo agents, and I can no longer trust anything you say. I have expended vast amounts of time and energy trying to separate out the truth from the disinfo being spread around here. So, even if you're not a paid disinfo agent, you're definitely still a dipshit. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1246378 South Africa02/09/2013 02:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | To AC 1:08 PM.... OK... I appreciate your work on this. BUT, you are making some assumptions that are incomplete, at best. 1. "The Phelpses": Those two websites may be CIA-linked (like Google) for all we know, and can say whatever they want. Whitepages.com shows two adult Chinese males live at 15 Walnut Trail WITH "Nick & Laura." I interviewed one of those Chinese guys (Zhiwen Ma) live on my show on the 17th of January, and he told me that he moved out a couple years ago and rents to the "Phelpses". He also said his shadow company --(Solarwind, LLC) which has practically no internet footprint, products, customers, etc., but just one patent-- was a "start up that failed." You also need to look at the photos at David dIcke DOT com. Go to Today's News, thread title "School shooting in Connecticut...". Go to page 160 and look at the photos of the Sextons (clear) and the Phelpses (yellowish light) posted by "Pinochio" at 4:44 on the 23rd of January (Post #3198.) That shows "Nick & Laura" on the road from LA to their new home in Sandy Hook. It shows Richard and Jennifer from the Greenberg-Sexton photo album. No force on Earth is going to tell me those aren't the same people. Just ask yourself...Whht are the chances, at randon, of BOTH members of a coupe looking like a couple from a KNOWN GLOBALIST family involved in (acting at Tuscon) being chosen by the MSM from all the families at Sandy Hook who LOST NOBODY to do an interview? Add to that that both woman are known to be into acting: [link to www.youtube.com] OK...better post this, and move on to the next one in a separate posting in case I lose this... For the Republic and Its Creator, Steve Martin Host, The Aroostook Watchmen Radio Show Over The Constitutional Radio Network, THE CONSCIENCE OF MAINE 780 AM in Monticello, 1700 AM in Lewiston, 88.1 FM in Westbrook, 88.1 FM in Portland, 96.5 FM in Brewer, 96.5 FM in Bangor, Maine. [email protected] 207-532-3635 AroostookWatchmen.com |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1246378 South Africa02/09/2013 02:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | BUT: 2. "Rachel D'Avino": if you go to that same website (David dIcke DOT com) and same thread--page 183, post#3643 at 8:44 AM-- you will see the Greenberg cousin and "D'Avino" posted in one place. They are absolutely the same. You are assuming this "Rachel D'Avino" is 29 without anything but the MSM's word. She is a few years older than the gal in the Greenberg album, granted, but she could pass for anywhere from 20-30. Also, there is no record yet of her at the Cathlic school or universites that we can find OTHER THAN a U. Hartford posting saying they'd lost one of their own. And she could still be live anyway down in the Caribbean. The fact she only worked at Sandy Hook Elementary three times (three days) before being "killed" is also VERY, VERY suspicious. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1246378 South Africa02/09/2013 02:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 3. Soto's cousin: Have not researched this kid much, but his talking "performance" in a couple interviews I've seen is very weak, and he absolutely AGAIN looks like the Greenberg kid. Not possible, AT RANDOM. You need to understand how impossible it would be AT RANDOM for ALL these people from one family to have lookalikes WHO WERE CHOSEN FROM ALL WHO COULD HAVE BEEN CHOSEN by the MSM to do these interviews at Sandy Hook. The chances are infinitesimally small. PLUS, you have makeup, plastic surgery, etc., etc., plus, of course, the normal passage of time and maturity levels. 4. Sally Cox. You may have something there if you can show proof that Sarah "Sally" Cox, WITHOUT A DOUBT: a. actually has been at that school all that time. b. had some sort of brain seizure on 12/14 which made her THINK Nancy Lanza was a kindergarten teacher at her school. c. is ACTUALLY 60, and not younger. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 25326483 United States02/09/2013 02:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 3. Soto's cousin: Have not researched this kid much, but his talking "performance" in a couple interviews I've seen is very weak, and he absolutely AGAIN looks like the Greenberg kid. Not possible, AT RANDOM. You need to understand how impossible it would be AT RANDOM for ALL these people from one family to have lookalikes WHO WERE CHOSEN FROM ALL WHO COULD HAVE BEEN CHOSEN by the MSM to do these interviews at Sandy Hook. The chances are infinitesimally small. PLUS, you have makeup, plastic surgery, etc., etc., plus, of course, the normal passage of time and maturity levels. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1246378 4. Sally Cox. You may have something there if you can show proof that Sarah "Sally" Cox, WITHOUT A DOUBT: a. actually has been at that school all that time. b. had some sort of brain seizure on 12/14 which made her THINK Nancy Lanza was a kindergarten teacher at her school. c. is ACTUALLY 60, and not younger. I'm looking more carefully into the Rachel D'Avino stuff. Are you talking about Soto's cousin or her brother here. I was discussing her cousin, James Wiltsie, who's in his late 30's or early 40's. Victoria's brother is Carlos Matthew and is a sophomore at Stratford high school. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1246509 South Africa02/09/2013 02:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Are you talking about Soto's cousin or her brother here. I was discussing her cousin, James Wiltsie, who's in his late 30's or early 40's. Victoria's brother is Carlos Matthew and is a sophomore at Stratford high school. Brother then. My bad. Also, I've yet to see either of the two "sisters" or this dude actually shed a tear... Have you? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 25326483 United States02/09/2013 03:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OK, here's a memorial page for Rachel D'Avino on the University of St. Joseph website [link to www.usj.edu] Here's an announcement from the Connecticut Association for Behavior Analysis. [link to ctaba.org] |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27474161 United States02/09/2013 03:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If I understand you correctly, you are suggesting that it is not normal for family members to respond to a horrible tragedy by taking action and trying to make what they believe is a positive change in the world. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25326483 Do I have that right? Sure, maybe...after the grieving process is past the first stage: Shock. Oh, that's right, these "parents" weren't shocked....they, all of them, apparetly moved straight through all the phases of grief, arriving, in the space of mere hours, at the Acceptance phase and began the heavy work of "changing the world". Such Troopers! Such Valiant Super Heroic World Changers!!!!! I guess all those people who take months or, more often, YEARS to reach the Acceptance phase really didn't love their kids and want to change the world for them. They were just selfish.  |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 159723 Argentina02/09/2013 03:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Google: "Rachel D'Avino" and click on the URL with all the images. While there are lots of other people shown, there are only two photos (with many re-entries of the same two) purporting to be "Rachel." Isn't that odd...??? You have the one with the dog, and the one used by david_dickhead- folks and other websites to compare with the Greenberg girl. That's it. Isn't that odd that there would be only two??? Surely, somebody out there has a University of Hartford Yearbook photo, or something???? |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 12187143 United States02/09/2013 03:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Google: "Rachel D'Avino" and click on the URL with all the images. While there are lots of other people shown, there are only two photos (with many re-entries of the same two) purporting to be "Rachel." Isn't that odd...??? You have the one with the dog, and the one used by david_dickhead- folks and other websites to compare with the Greenberg girl. That's it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 159723 Isn't that odd that there would be only two??? Surely, somebody out there has a University of Hartford Yearbook photo, or something???? Google: "Rachel D'Avino" and click on the URL with all the images. While there are lots of other people shown, there are only two photos (with many re-entries of the same two) purporting to be "Rachel." Isn't that odd...??? You have the one with the dog, and the one used by david_dickhead- folks and other websites to compare with the Greenberg girl. That's it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 159723 Isn't that odd that there would be only two??? Surely, somebody out there has a University of Hartford Yearbook photo, or something???? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 25326483 United States02/09/2013 03:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Are you talking about Soto's cousin or her brother here. I was discussing her cousin, James Wiltsie, who's in his late 30's or early 40's. Victoria's brother is Carlos Matthew and is a sophomore at Stratford high school. Brother then. My bad. Also, I've yet to see either of the two "sisters" or this dude actually shed a tear... Have you? OMG! The claim that Victoria's Soto brother is that Greenberg kid is total BULLSHIT. And the fact that you are pushing this claim means that I probably won't take you seriously about anything else you have to say. Along with Rob83, you are now on my suspect list of disinfo agents. Are you two working together? Or hey, maybe you're even the same person! Victoria's brother, Carlos Matthew Soto, is a sophomore at Stratford High School. The Greenberg boy is Brett Greenberg. He's the son of Leon Greenberg. He's currently a student at Indiana University in Bloomington. I have found plenty of evidence that they totally distinct people. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1246509 South Africa02/09/2013 03:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OK...thanks! That's Rachel...a quarter of the way down with glasses, the tye-dyed shirt and the Sesame Street-character birthday cake. That is NOT either the Greenberg girl shown in the more famous photo, or the girl with the dog in the slightly less famous one. That is the REAL D'Avino, IMO, and she has flown the coop to warmer climes, I suspect. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 25326483 United States02/09/2013 03:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 3. Soto's cousin: Have not researched this kid much, but his talking "performance" in a couple interviews I've seen is very weak, and he absolutely AGAIN looks like the Greenberg kid. Not possible, AT RANDOM. You need to understand how impossible it would be AT RANDOM for ALL these people from one family to have lookalikes WHO WERE CHOSEN FROM ALL WHO COULD HAVE BEEN CHOSEN by the MSM to do these interviews at Sandy Hook. The chances are infinitesimally small. PLUS, you have makeup, plastic surgery, etc., etc., plus, of course, the normal passage of time and maturity levels. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1246378 4. Sally Cox. You may have something there if you can show proof that Sarah "Sally" Cox, WITHOUT A DOUBT: a. actually has been at that school all that time. b. had some sort of brain seizure on 12/14 which made her THINK Nancy Lanza was a kindergarten teacher at her school. c. is ACTUALLY 60, and not younger. According to her mylife.com profile, Sarah/Sally was born in 1952. [link to www.mylife.com] Intelius also says that she's 60. [link to www.intelius.com] And no, the burden of proof is upon you to explain how she could possibly be Karri Turner. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 14408911 United States02/09/2013 03:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Am I the only one bothered by the "official" answer to the 2 men running into the woods question? When asked who 'they' are, the answer always goes to the armed off-duty swat member from another town. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33641626 1. how does that explain 2 people being there? 2. how does that explain fleeing from pursuing cops? 3. finally, why is it perfectly ok for an armed man to be on school grounds? imho the "official" answer only raises further questions...  An armed off-duty swat member from another town is highly suspect as being one of the perpetrators. I don't understand how the official explanation excuses him in any way from being thoroughly investigated and I can't believe they would find any good reason for him to be there. His role is being covered up. I think there was an assassination team that morning and this swat team guy was one of them. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1246509 South Africa02/09/2013 03:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 3. Soto's cousin: Have not researched this kid much, but his talking "performance" in a couple interviews I've seen is very weak, and he absolutely AGAIN looks like the Greenberg kid. Not possible, AT RANDOM. You need to understand how impossible it would be AT RANDOM for ALL these people from one family to have lookalikes WHO WERE CHOSEN FROM ALL WHO COULD HAVE BEEN CHOSEN by the MSM to do these interviews at Sandy Hook. The chances are infinitesimally small. PLUS, you have makeup, plastic surgery, etc., etc., plus, of course, the normal passage of time and maturity levels. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1246378 4. Sally Cox. You may have something there if you can show proof that Sarah "Sally" Cox, WITHOUT A DOUBT: a. actually has been at that school all that time. b. had some sort of brain seizure on 12/14 which made her THINK Nancy Lanza was a kindergarten teacher at her school. c. is ACTUALLY 60, and not younger. According to her mylife.com profile, Sarah/Sally was born in 1952. [link to www.mylife.com] Intelius also says that she's 60. [link to www.intelius.com] And no, the burden of proof is upon you to explain how she could possibly be Karri Turner. Facial recognition. PLUS "strange coincidence" of 12-14-97 show foreshadowing Sandy Hook disaster by exactly 15 years. Pressure is on HER to explain why she thought Nancy Lanza worked at her school. OH, but she'll never be asked that... Pathetic. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 25326483 United States02/09/2013 04:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oh I see... So Steve Martin apparently uses the following User ID's 1329728 Thread: Sandy Hook IS a hoax!!! 1097875 Thread: Sandy Hook IS a hoax!!! (Page 3) 159723 Thread: Sandy Hook: Eyewitnesse, survivors, credible researchers. Come on my show. Plus, given the flow of discussion, I suspect that he's User 1246378 as well. It would appear that I've been talking to the same person for most of this thread. Sigh. |
| Fred User ID: 33015295  Switzerland02/09/2013 04:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1246509 Pressure is on HER to explain why she thought Nancy Lanza worked at her school. ... The nurse never did, a journlist did. On the first day. [link to www.youtube.com] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 25326483 United States02/09/2013 04:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oh I see... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25326483 So Steve Martin apparently uses the following User ID's 1329728 Thread: Sandy Hook IS a hoax!!! 1097875 Thread: Sandy Hook IS a hoax!!! (Page 3) 159723 Thread: Sandy Hook: Eyewitnesse, survivors, credible researchers. Come on my show. Plus, given the flow of discussion, I suspect that he's User 1246378 as well. It would appear that I've been talking to the same person for most of this thread. Sigh. Oh, probably add 1246509 to the list, too. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 17586504 United States02/09/2013 06:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "I know that somebody found the linkedin page for a Robby Parker in Utah. While I agree that he looks similar to Emilie's father in his linkedin photo, I'm not convinced that he's the same person." - Check the thread regarding Robbie Parker's biography; it is the same man. "Nick and Laura Phelps: While I agree that they bear a strong resemblance to the Sextons..." - If, after viewing all of the photographic evidence, you do not recognize them to be the same, exact, identical persons, then we really have nothing left to discuss. "...these two have well-established identities as Nick and Laura Phelps." - Wait a minute, how do you know that the two people presented to the media have well established identities as Nick and Laura Phelps? Abraham Lincoln and Daniel Day Lewis are two separate people bearing two separate and distinct identities, yet I submit to you for a fact that Daniel Day Lewis has appeared on camera portraying Abraham Lincoln. Similarly, the possible fact that there may be a couple named Phelps living in Netwown does not lessen the confirmed fact that Nick and Laura Phelps were being portrayed by other, different people when presented on camera by the media. " [link to www.ussearch.com] [link to www.peoplefinders.com] - OK...and? I have seen telephone directory listings for Nick Phelps before...in fact, you will find a link to one in the original post in this thread. What on earth does this demonstrate, other than the fact that a record has been established of a Nick Phelps bearing a relationship to Newtown? "And here's the obituary for Nick's mother in 2009 [link to portlandtribune.com] (Scroll down for Theodora Maria Phelps)." - And here is me asking, 'What does this have to do with the cost of tea in China?' This only suggests to me that someone named Theodora Maria Phelps, who may have had a son named Nick Phelps, died in 2009. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 17586504 United States02/09/2013 06:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Victoria's brother, Carlos Matthew Soto, is a sophomore at Stratford High School...The Greenberg boy is Brett Greenberg. He's the son of Leon Greenberg...I have found plenty of evidence that they [are] totally distinct people." And? Even if true, what would prevent one person from portraying another "totally distinct" person in media events? |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1246509 South Africa02/09/2013 07:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | D'Avino is definitely a Greenberg. The Phelpses are definitely Richard and Jennifer Sexton-Greenberg... This much is certain. What happened to those for whom they were brought in to play a role, is anybodies guess, but my working theory is that they were very well paid and have moved overseas. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 25326483 United States02/09/2013 08:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Victoria's brother, Carlos Matthew Soto, is a sophomore at Stratford High School...The Greenberg boy is Brett Greenberg. He's the son of Leon Greenberg...I have found plenty of evidence that they [are] totally distinct people." Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17586504 And? Even if true, what would prevent one person from portraying another "totally distinct" person in media events? If you're convinced that they're the same person, then please provide some evidence besides a 3-year-old photo of Brett. |
