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BREAKING: FSA Formally Announces Battle for Damascus Has Begun. Assad Ready to Talk

 
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you'd think that the exposure of the CIA arms running out of Benghazi [link to www.businessinsider.com] would give a clue to people what was going on in Iraq. During the height of so called Al Queda operations in Iraq, Eastern Syria was a lawless hideout and major Brit and US basis were guarding the Syria Iraq border to insure their safe passage in and out. Exactly the same operations and alliances to what is going on in Jordon, Lebanon and Turkey vis a vie Syria. Why change a plan if it has worked since Soviet days, through to Yugoslavia, Chechnya, Libya and Syria and on to Iran, Russia and China?
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You are aware that Iran uses its own brand of jihadists in Pakistan and Iraq (in its squabbles for territory/influence in other words). Muqtada al Sadr (Iran) ring a bell?

Irrespective of the sects involved, the common thread is a fundamentalism that is extreme to the degree that all intelligent thought is effectively blocked. And what do we have?

Rent a stupid!!
 Quoting: Marxist


There is no common thread between Iraqi Shia anti Saddam politics and SArabia funded Wahhabi ambitions. Muqtada was a patriot, not a terrorist. That Iran shielded him and latter supported him has a long history to events connected inside Iraq. What you are failing to do is separate legitimate indigenous struggle from outside interference and manipulation.
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Bullshit. One would have thought there is no real nationalism in the Arab Empire when it comes to fighting external forces from the infidel world. After all it was infidels who dethroned Saddam, reason enough I wulda thunk to sink your differences and defend the Caliphate.

These arseholes are squabbling amongst themselves and selling themselves out to the highest bidder. If that isn't rent a stupid, I have no idea what is.
 Quoting: Marxist


Who are you to say it is "reason enough" to discard the anti Saddam struggle because infidels dethroned Saddam? Worse!, who the FUCK are you to associate them with foreign funded fanatical terrorists whose sole purpose was to weaken both Sunni and Shia resistance against the US led illegal invasion? That's really sloppy analysis!!! Even Baaths were patriots as much as Muqtada. Without the "infidels",, as you call them, and other foreign infiltrators (SArabia) a secular Baathist multiethnic and locally grown option was always a possibility.

Marxist, you have lost your patience for nationalist struggle as the vehicle for self determination. Time to change your moniker and become a Clinton supporter..
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Where is the local self determination whilst the region pivots around an imperial theocracy based in Saudi Arabia. A theocracy which all the so-called secular forces in the region pay lip service to as the region continues to set itself apart from the mass of the working class movement worldwide. Islamic socialism (Baathist or Libyan) is a joke. It is as much a joke as is the bogus socialism of Tony Blair or the Chinese. However, give those hegemons their due. They act in concert when confronted by threats to their regional interest. I fall about the place laughing at being told that China has the back of the Arab Empire. China has only one back...and that is China.

The constituent elements of the Arab Empire are a joke and have let down the muslim working class absolutely. They afford no protection to the working class whilst being preyed upon by external forces. In fact local predation surpasses that of the outsider. In contrast, little Israel does a salutory job in securing its own interests.

The best you can do is breakup this joke of a cultural region and start from scratch. You have yet to embark on the modernity of capital (yes, Marx did construe the meritocracy of capitalism an improvement on the arbitrary structures one finds in these outdated feudalisms) let alone address the core inequities.

In other words, you have yet to pass base in your long climb to equity. You are not going to get it by running around the place like a headless chicken playing the victim. You can only do so through solidarity and that comes from a solid understanding of the issues at stake.
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Doorbert bringer of semi-disinfo I like your doom writing, but most of it is incoherent with the truth. So all your posts should be treated with a grain of salt. Syria isn't falling. Iran isn't going to attack Israel without provocation. Also are people this dumb to think otherwise, because western media twists stories. Ahmadinejad's task is to uphold the constitution and has no power to launch attacks. Look it up.
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you'd think that the exposure of the CIA arms running out of Benghazi [link to www.businessinsider.com] would give a clue to people

at least 60% of people are sheep, easily led and inflamed.


BUT when a simple majority of working tax payers see they have lost everything, and if they start and keeping hearing the word communists, once again, many will wake up.


Once the violence really hits, a large number in the cities will simply defend themselves against the race and class warfare that breaks out.


That's fine. Look at any voting patterns by county maps. The supporters of the takers are concentrated in the cities. Once it comes to live or die they will eat each other. Cruel but there you go.
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Doorbert bringer of semi-disinfo I like your doom writing, but most of it is incoherent with the truth. So all your posts should be treated with a grain of salt. Syria isn't falling. Iran isn't going to attack Israel without provocation. Also are people this dumb to think otherwise, because western media twists stories. Ahmadinejad's task is to uphold the constitution and has no power to launch attacks. Look it up.
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I really find you people infuriating. So what was Iran doing in Iraq, supplementing the destabilisation of that country?

You make out as if these reactionary Islamic regimes are white as the driven snow and the victims in all of this. You sir, are an idiot.

Corruption proliferates in all regions globally. The Arab Empire goes one step further in continuing with this nonsense that it is a victim whilst supporting all manner of regional interests in Europe, Russia, S Asia, S E Asia and to a smaller degree, in China.
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Assad should be getting ready to die like a dog in the sand, kinda like Gaddafi was murdered by CIA puppets. Though if he's as coward as he seems, he maybe smart enough to get out in time with all the funds he has made off the backs of Syrians.
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Not one person yet has mentioned Isaiah 17: "The Burden of Damascus"

If this is the time for that Biblical prophecy to be fulfilled it would seem that at sundown one evening things will seem "relatively" normal but beset by "trouble that isn't too distant. By the next morning Damascus will be utterly destroyed and will not ever be inhabited again. That of course is "The Burden of Damascus" - they have known all these many years that the prophecy existed and has since the time of Isaiah.

Take note of verses 1 and 2 in terms of what happens. Then verse 5 & 6 may be a clue to what time of year it happens in?? Finally verses 12, 13, & 14 talk about the "WOE to the multitude of many people which make a noise like the noise of the seas ..." The noise could be that of jet aircraft, or large bombs (especially nuclear weapons being detonated) or something else? Lastly in verse 14 we are told "And behold at eveningtide trouble: and before the morning he is not. This is the portion of them that spoil us, and the lot of them that rob us."

I suspect that the "he" in this last sentence refers to the leaders and/or the city of Damascus.

The question is: Is this the time or is it yet to come? Time will tell. Each morning that Damascus awakens and is still a city, they've een given another reprieve. For one more day at any rate.

Isaiah Chapter 17


1 The burden of Damascus. Behold, Damascus is taken away from being a city, and it shall be a ruinous heap.

2 The cities of Aroer are forsaken: they shall be for flocks, which shall lie down, and none shall make them afraid.

3 The fortress also shall cease from Ephraim, and the kingdom from Damascus, and the remnant of Syria: they shall be as the glory of the children of Israel, saith the LORD of hosts.

4 And in that day it shall come to pass, that the glory of Jacob shall be made thin, and the fatness of his flesh shall wax lean.

5 And it shall be as when the harvestman gathereth the corn, and reapeth the ears with his arm; and it shall be as he that gathereth ears in the valley of Rephaim.

6 Yet gleaning grapes shall be left in it, as the shaking of an olive tree, two or three berries in the top of the uppermost bough, four or five in the outmost fruitful branches thereof, saith the LORD God of Israel.

7 At that day shall a man look to his Maker, and his eyes shall have respect to the Holy One of Israel.

8 And he shall not look to the altars, the work of his hands, neither shall respect that which his fingers have made, either the groves, or the images.

9 In that day shall his strong cities be as a forsaken bough, and an uppermost branch, which they left because of the children of Israel: and there shall be desolation.

10 Because thou hast forgotten the God of thy salvation, and hast not been mindful of the rock of thy strength, therefore shalt thou plant pleasant plants, and shalt set it with strange slips:

11 In the day shalt thou make thy plant to grow, and in the morning shalt thou make thy seed to flourish: but the harvest shall be a heap in the day of grief and of desperate sorrow.

12 Woe to the multitude of many people, which make a noise like the noise of the seas; and to the rushing of nations, that make a rushing like the rushing of mighty waters!

13 The nations shall rush like the rushing of many waters: but God shall rebuke them, and they shall flee far off, and shall be chased as the chaff of the mountains before the wind, and like a rolling thing before the whirlwind.

14 And behold at eveningtide trouble; and before the morning he is not. This is the portion of them that spoil us, and the lot of them that rob us.
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You mean his interpretation of the mumbo jumbo, which incidentally is heavily funded by the Saudis, (whom I hear, love their booze, nightclubs and weemin).

Fuck, this would make an awesome Monty Python script if it weren't for real.
 Quoting: Marxist


Wish there was a Monty Python movie about this..would be making fun of the facts and be hilarious.

chuckle
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Ay haram! Monty Python are clearly a Zionist plot to steal Sinai from glorious Egyptian strong virulent mans while SCAF are too busy rolling on the floor laughing their asses off at John Cleese hijinx.
 Quoting: ASV 2643820


Hear hear, the megaphone spewing his crap again.
Why don't you go back to work, oh sorry...guess this IS your work!
FUCK YOU! You have NEVER shown ANY compassion or respect for anyone but instead just roll over everyone with your big yapper. When I was living through shit in the ME you were not even born yet. So either you can get a joke I make and have a civil exchange for a change, or find yourself another victim of your book-smart dribble.
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Nice try, Zionist-collaborator/sympathizer/stooge/apologist

By purposefully sounding sub-retarded while deliberately using a phony "IP flag" of glorious, strong homeland of big-mans Egypt... you want the world to think all REAL Muslims and Egyptians are so inept as to be incapable of even using toilet paper without risking auto-erotic asfixiation on the bathtum curtains.

And you almost got away with your "Monty Python" coded misderection, too. Uh, except everyone knows that REAL origional Monty Python were faithful, pious Muslims! That was before Zionist occupation.

And you will never get our beautful, lush Sinai OR our freedom --- not through any ruses like gratuitous Monty Python references, not anyhow, you hear you dirty hook-nosed land-stealer!


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There is no common thread between Iraqi Shia anti Saddam politics and SArabia funded Wahhabi ambitions. Muqtada was a patriot, not a terrorist. That Iran shielded him and latter supported him has a long history to events connected inside Iraq. What you are failing to do is separate legitimate indigenous struggle from outside interference and manipulation.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32967202


Bullshit. One would have thought there is no real nationalism in the Arab Empire when it comes to fighting external forces from the infidel world. After all it was infidels who dethroned Saddam, reason enough I wulda thunk to sink your differences and defend the Caliphate.

These arseholes are squabbling amongst themselves and selling themselves out to the highest bidder. If that isn't rent a stupid, I have no idea what is.
 Quoting: Marxist


Who are you to say it is "reason enough" to discard the anti Saddam struggle because infidels dethroned Saddam? Worse!, who the FUCK are you to associate them with foreign funded fanatical terrorists whose sole purpose was to weaken both Sunni and Shia resistance against the US led illegal invasion? That's really sloppy analysis!!! Even Baaths were patriots as much as Muqtada. Without the "infidels",, as you call them, and other foreign infiltrators (SArabia) a secular Baathist multiethnic and locally grown option was always a possibility.

Marxist, you have lost your patience for nationalist struggle as the vehicle for self determination. Time to change your moniker and become a Clinton supporter..
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Where is the local self determination whilst the region pivots around an imperial theocracy based in Saudi Arabia. A theocracy which all the so-called secular forces in the region pay lip service to as the region continues to set itself apart from the mass of the working class movement worldwide. Islamic socialism (Baathist or Libyan) is a joke. It is as much a joke as is the bogus socialism of Tony Blair or the Chinese. However, give those hegemons their due. They act in concert when confronted by threats to their regional interest. I fall about the place laughing at being told that China has the back of the Arab Empire. China has only one back...and that is China.

The constituent elements of the Arab Empire are a joke and have let down the muslim working class absolutely. They afford no protection to the working class whilst being preyed upon by external forces. In fact local predation surpasses that of the outsider. In contrast, little Israel does a salutory job in securing its own interests.

The best you can do is breakup this joke of a cultural region and start from scratch. You have yet to embark on the modernity of capital (yes, Marx did construe the meritocracy of capitalism an improvement on the arbitrary structures one finds in these outdated feudalisms) let alone address the core inequities.

In other words, you have yet to pass base in your long climb to equity. You are not going to get it by running around the place like a headless chicken playing the victim. You can only do so through solidarity and that comes from a solid understanding of the issues at stake.
 Quoting: Marxist


So let me get this straight: your Marxist analysis is to support foreign interventions by selfish invaders so as to have the region go through a capitalist "transition" on the road to secular socialism? That's a deluded twist on a familiar theme. You imply the Baathist were mere puppets, phonies, submitting to SArabia. I dont recall their friendship being that close, actually. While the Saddams and Assads and Ghadaffis of the world exercised repressive internal control, wiped out independent Unions, had torture chambers against dissidents,,, one thing they did do was create secular and socialist institutions of health, education, sanitation, infreastructure, resource ownership and development. Now you say "they arent worthy and must be destroyed by foreign invaders" because they "dont support the workers". But, hey, those institutions benefited the workers and farmers and not only raised their standard of living but also their consciousness. Nationalist AND class consciousness, Marxist. Now, when Iraqis, or Syrian or Libyans for that matter, begin to struggle against the repressive national apparatus, do you think they will do it by destroying the infrastructure and institutions that they benefited from? That's what the foreign invaders did,,, as a matter of course,,, to "weaken the regime". They didnt care if the country was crushed into the dark ages, their goal wasnt to build on past achievements, their goal was to save and American lives, crush resistance, control the country and extract the wealth for their benefit.

National progress isnt a linear process, whether transitioning from "capitalism" to "socialism", and self determination and prideful achievement cannot be imposed esp by disinterested foreigners.

I really dont get you. Obviously you are pissed at the "Arab world" and Islamic rule. But you seem to see as a radical solution, even to the extent of jihadists terrorist tactics amd their foreign paymasters,,,, if only "to get the ball rolling to a brighter day". Is that crazy, or what?
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Rent a stupid!!
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You know, you keep calling assorted jihadis/"freedom-liberators" stupid.

Yes, they are.

But whether totting RPG, planting IED under the cover of night... or strapping suicide-vests... those retards you condescend to can take out 50 people in a single try.

It's this kind of neglect/under-estimation of Islam, especially in the Roaring 1990's in the West... is why we had 9/11 and all the subsequent trillion-dollar costing shit since...

Nevermind the fact, as you mentioned, that behind-the-scenes players who use or "rent" the jihadis, are of course anything BUT stupid...
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Listen mate, by any measure, your Arab Empire is an even greater joke than it ever was. What the firk are these jihadis liberating. More regions for rich Western expats to flock to. Cos that is the net effect of blowing 50 people to bits out your arsehole.

Nowhere is it more profitabe for me to work that in the heartland of the Empire. It is only a matter of time before Iraq comes on tap. I'ld say give it a decade and Tehran will be a nice little earner.

In the meantime, the West is being overwhelmed by refugees from expat land. Fuck, are you people awake!!!
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clappa
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No, ya brown-snake piss-swilling matey, what I am telling you is that troglodyte teenage jihadi on his bad day can take out like 50 peeps -- with another 50 badly disfigured by nail, ball-bearings & other sharpnel -- any time he damn well pleases.

(Well, 50 if we're talking normal, secure human beings. Which translates to roughly about 150 unwashed Marxists, 160 Maoists and 175.5 Trotskyists, but whatever po-tay-to, to-mah-to)

It doesn't even have anything to do with Arab Caliphate. But since you brought it up... 19 high-jackers with on one Tuesday managed to cause TRILLION dollar economic damage when cost of all wars is tallied up ---> not to mention brings us ever so closely to 1984-type society with all the Patriot Acts and whatnot... Not bad for a Tora Bora cave operation...

But it gets better, mom: now imagine a few dirty bombs or actual nukes carefully set off in world's economic & cultural capitals.... by a few of these "suicidal stupids".

Not plausible, you say? You keep thinking that. You won't think it's so funny.
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This creative writing exercise isn't up to standard DorkBot. Your word count is down to near zero, your "eyeball buzz" is deviating from policy (gone too fanciful), you're not removing negative comments quickly enough, and you're neglecting to dab our provided sources and just using any old thing.

I'm going to contact your management and get them to review you. We have to watch our shekels.
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"19 high-jackers with box-cutters"
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Damascus Suburbs, news that regime forces have deployed in the old Mazzeh and residential areas, and are carrying raids near AL Zahra mosque

[link to yallasouriya.wordpress.com]
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Hey DoorBert , DO you think Damascus will fall tonight ?!
 Quoting: NDH


It'll take a few days at best.

Assad could mount a counter attack tonight.

Chemical weapons could come out.

What do you think?
 Quoting: DoorBert


No mainstream is reporting in any neutral country. I think your sources are crap and you know it.

But posting crap gets you pins and that's the only reason you're here for so you don't give a crap.
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Assad could mount a counter attack tonight.

Chemical weapons could come out.
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Chemical weapons in Damascus... hmmmm... are you're fingering yourself?
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... especially whilst taking potshots are Israel which has deep roots in the logical traditions was incredibly dumb (same mistake made by Ghadaffi, Mr Sunshades.)
 Quoting: Marxist


"occasionally lightly prodding Israel".... "taking potshots at Israel"


Say, Mr. Historical Inevitability... what do you know about, say, 2nd Intifada?

If that's taking light pot-shots... then I can only wish you take a ride in a crowded, then have your Das-Kapital 2: Eletric Boogaloo -perusing friends incinerated or torninto pieces in front of you ---> while you are luck to only get off with a few shattered bones, IQ-reducing intra-cranial hemmorhage, ruptured ear-drums, maybe 3rd-degree burns over only 30% of the body + some ball-bearing shrapnel embedded in a few places. Plus, course severe PTSD --> but hey, at least while you were convalescing in ICU in semi-comatose state, at least you didn't have to pick your friends up with a bucket or arrange funerals or whatever....Lucky you, got off easy.

With some luck, you'll get to experience such occasional Assad-sanctioned/financed/backed "gentle prodding". Maybe it touch upon as many of your loved ones as possible ;)
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Door "WOOD".

Sorry man -- I do think you get a little woodie, anytime people will die. Sort of get's me sick. yak
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crowded bus
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Divide and conquer.

Shia vs. Sunni.

The plan seems to be working very well.
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good for us!

once damascus has fallen, we need to brand fsa a terror organisation an kill em all.
we need to transfer all the wealth of syria to europe and the usa so even more here can suffer a heart attack in their 50's!
we have to financially enslave the syrians and show them how stupid they were to let the rebels win.

no other way to achieve a one world govmt.,
but once realized, no wars will ever happen again!
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Assad could mount a counter attack tonight.

Chemical weapons could come out.
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Chemical weapons in Damascus... hmmmm... are you're fingering yourself?
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I hope he does. bring out the chems and kill those fuckers
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Feb 5-6

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lets hope the FSA alqaeda franchise get wiped out
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i think you should stick to cutting and pasting

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Damascus Suburbs, news that regime forces have deployed in the old Mazzeh and residential areas, and are carrying raids near AL Zahra mosque

[link to yallasouriya.wordpress.com]
 Quoting: DoorBert




Hey DoorBert , DO you think Damascus will fall tonight ?!
 Quoting: NDH


It'll take a few days at best.

Assad could mount a counter attack tonight.

Chemical weapons could come out.

What do you think?
 Quoting: DoorBert
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Wish there was a Monty Python movie about this..would be making fun of the facts and be hilarious.

chuckle
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Ay haram! Monty Python are clearly a Zionist plot to steal Sinai from glorious Egyptian strong virulent mans while SCAF are too busy rolling on the floor laughing their asses off at John Cleese hijinx.
 Quoting: ASV 2643820


Hear hear, the megaphone spewing his crap again.
Why don't you go back to work, oh sorry...guess this IS your work!
FUCK YOU! You have NEVER shown ANY compassion or respect for anyone but instead just roll over everyone with your big yapper. When I was living through shit in the ME you were not even born yet. So either you can get a joke I make and have a civil exchange for a change, or find yourself another victim of your book-smart dribble.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33828025


Nice try, Zionist-collaborator/sympathizer/stooge/apologist

By purposefully sounding sub-retarded while deliberately using a phony "IP flag" of glorious, strong homeland of big-mans Egypt... you want the world to think all REAL Muslims and Egyptians are so inept as to be incapable of even using toilet paper without risking auto-erotic asfixiation on the bathtum curtains.

And you almost got away with your "Monty Python" coded misderection, too. Uh, except everyone knows that REAL origional Monty Python were faithful, pious Muslims! That was before Zionist occupation.

And you will never get our beautful, lush Sinai OR our freedom --- not through any ruses like gratuitous Monty Python references, not anyhow, you hear you dirty hook-nosed land-stealer!


np: Girls on Film - Duran Duran
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Your reply confirms my opinion about you, how utterly dumb and childish you are. If you had to enter a contest in getting the most points in an analysis wrong, you'd be the winner!
On a clear day, i can see the Pyramids from my house. What you have got? The view of Iron Dome maybe?

Nice try retard! You win the price for biggest moron on this board.
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Historical Revisionism 101:

Israel attacks Syria,

and the double speak is

Assad "Took ON' Israel




his army won't use the wmd if they think they are losing. they don't want to be held responsible if Assad falls.


I'm not buying that this is a done deal though.
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I reckon Assad was a done deal when he took on Israel. The Israelis play with the big boys when it comes to strategy. Islam in contrast is just too irrational to really compete.
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Bullshit. One would have thought there is no real nationalism in the Arab Empire when it comes to fighting external forces from the infidel world. After all it was infidels who dethroned Saddam, reason enough I wulda thunk to sink your differences and defend the Caliphate.

These arseholes are squabbling amongst themselves and selling themselves out to the highest bidder. If that isn't rent a stupid, I have no idea what is.
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Who are you to say it is "reason enough" to discard the anti Saddam struggle because infidels dethroned Saddam? Worse!, who the FUCK are you to associate them with foreign funded fanatical terrorists whose sole purpose was to weaken both Sunni and Shia resistance against the US led illegal invasion? That's really sloppy analysis!!! Even Baaths were patriots as much as Muqtada. Without the "infidels",, as you call them, and other foreign infiltrators (SArabia) a secular Baathist multiethnic and locally grown option was always a possibility.

Marxist, you have lost your patience for nationalist struggle as the vehicle for self determination. Time to change your moniker and become a Clinton supporter..
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Where is the local self determination whilst the region pivots around an imperial theocracy based in Saudi Arabia. A theocracy which all the so-called secular forces in the region pay lip service to as the region continues to set itself apart from the mass of the working class movement worldwide. Islamic socialism (Baathist or Libyan) is a joke. It is as much a joke as is the bogus socialism of Tony Blair or the Chinese. However, give those hegemons their due. They act in concert when confronted by threats to their regional interest. I fall about the place laughing at being told that China has the back of the Arab Empire. China has only one back...and that is China.

The constituent elements of the Arab Empire are a joke and have let down the muslim working class absolutely. They afford no protection to the working class whilst being preyed upon by external forces. In fact local predation surpasses that of the outsider. In contrast, little Israel does a salutory job in securing its own interests.

The best you can do is breakup this joke of a cultural region and start from scratch. You have yet to embark on the modernity of capital (yes, Marx did construe the meritocracy of capitalism an improvement on the arbitrary structures one finds in these outdated feudalisms) let alone address the core inequities.

In other words, you have yet to pass base in your long climb to equity. You are not going to get it by running around the place like a headless chicken playing the victim. You can only do so through solidarity and that comes from a solid understanding of the issues at stake.
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So let me get this straight: your Marxist analysis is to support foreign interventions by selfish invaders so as to have the region go through a capitalist "transition" on the road to secular socialism? That's a deluded twist on a familiar theme. You imply the Baathist were mere puppets, phonies, submitting to SArabia. I dont recall their friendship being that close, actually. While the Saddams and Assads and Ghadaffis of the world exercised repressive internal control, wiped out independent Unions, had torture chambers against dissidents,,, one thing they did do was create secular and socialist institutions of health, education, sanitation, infreastructure, resource ownership and development. Now you say "they arent worthy and must be destroyed by foreign invaders" because they "dont support the workers". But, hey, those institutions benefited the workers and farmers and not only raised their standard of living but also their consciousness. Nationalist AND class consciousness, Marxist. Now, when Iraqis, or Syrian or Libyans for that matter, begin to struggle against the repressive national apparatus, do you think they will do it by destroying the infrastructure and institutions that they benefited from? That's what the foreign invaders did,,, as a matter of course,,, to "weaken the regime". They didnt care if the country was crushed into the dark ages, their goal wasnt to build on past achievements, their goal was to save and American lives, crush resistance, control the country and extract the wealth for their benefit.

National progress isnt a linear process, whether transitioning from "capitalism" to "socialism", and self determination and prideful achievement cannot be imposed esp by disinterested foreigners.

I really dont get you. Obviously you are pissed at the "Arab world" and Islamic rule. But you seem to see as a radical solution, even to the extent of jihadists terrorist tactics amd their foreign paymasters,,,, if only "to get the ball rolling to a brighter day". Is that crazy, or what?
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Aaah the familiar socialism in one country theme, especially peasant societes. It will not work whilst capital is globalising, now matter how many crocodile tears you shed on the world stage. Once the forces of capital were unleashed, the globalising process, a genie that cannot be put away, was set free. Saddam and Ghadaffis major mistake was continuing to ally themselves with the Arab Empire (you aren't going to tell me that both countries abandoned Islam in an act of pure secularism) and and not allying themselves with like forces in countries such as Cuba in a regional bloc. That would have affordrd them some protection and probably delayed the inevitable day when they were eventually absorbed by capital, with less ignominy. The USSR and China are testimony to the bogus socialism in one country myth.

As for the Arab Empire of which they continued to participate, this is a shambolic structure which affords no one but a feudal elite any relief, not even the basic modernity that accompanies a societies transition from barbarian to capital. Islam is still barbarian and displays all the naivete of the barbarian in as much as it demands justice whilst engaging in the continued expansion of its brute and backwards social economy. So a resounding YES to the fall of this filthy empire to capital. The sooner the better.

I will be dancing with unmitigated joy when the Arab Empire falls to capitalism. As a global humanity, we can then proceed to real progress. Any simpleton who sees common cause with this backwardness is next to bloody useless in the struggle and might as well piss off.

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When one faultline opens up, the other three (China/Japan, EUSSR and America) will too.

Syria is not going to be a pushover, and will lead to an increase in hostilities, if only on a covert basis.

Then the real fun starts!

The Georgia Guidestones say we need a maximum Earth population of 500,000 out of the 7 Billion we have now.

That gives each of us a 1 in 14 chance of living through this.

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You know, you keep calling assorted jihadis/"freedom-liberators" stupid.

Yes, they are.

But whether totting RPG, planting IED under the cover of night... or strapping suicide-vests... those retards you condescend to can take out 50 people in a single try.

It's this kind of neglect/under-estimation of Islam, especially in the Roaring 1990's in the West... is why we had 9/11 and all the subsequent trillion-dollar costing shit since...

Nevermind the fact, as you mentioned, that behind-the-scenes players who use or "rent" the jihadis, are of course anything BUT stupid...
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Listen mate, by any measure, your Arab Empire is an even greater joke than it ever was. What the firk are these jihadis liberating. More regions for rich Western expats to flock to. Cos that is the net effect of blowing 50 people to bits out your arsehole.

Nowhere is it more profitabe for me to work that in the heartland of the Empire. It is only a matter of time before Iraq comes on tap. I'ld say give it a decade and Tehran will be a nice little earner.

In the meantime, the West is being overwhelmed by refugees from expat land. Fuck, are you people awake!!!
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clappa
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No, ya brown-snake piss-swilling matey, what I am telling you is that troglodyte teenage jihadi on his bad day can take out like 50 peeps -- with another 50 badly disfigured by nail, ball-bearings & other sharpnel -- any time he damn well pleases.

(Well, 50 if we're talking normal, secure human beings. Which translates to roughly about 150 unwashed Marxists, 160 Maoists and 175.5 Trotskyists, but whatever po-tay-to, to-mah-to)

It doesn't even have anything to do with Arab Caliphate. But since you brought it up... 19 high-jackers with on one Tuesday managed to cause TRILLION dollar economic damage when cost of all wars is tallied up ---> not to mention brings us ever so closely to 1984-type society with all the Patriot Acts and whatnot... Not bad for a Tora Bora cave operation...

But it gets better, mom: now imagine a few dirty bombs or actual nukes carefully set off in world's economic & cultural capitals.... by a few of these "suicidal stupids".

Not plausible, you say? You keep thinking that. You won't think it's so funny.
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If you're happy to be some rich tent dwelling degenerates butt bitch, feel free.
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wow, someone who actually sees what is going on,





Well I guess you miss my point. The Al Queda Wahhabi jihadists are not "all over the place", they are trained and specialise in intervention for the benefit of their paymasters. That they bring primitive midaevil repressive governance to the places they rule, have you considered that is exactly what their paymasters want?

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