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Scientists discover the soul

 
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Soulless pickled dicks set out to discover a soul... WTF?!
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rex nanni2 great discovery...NOT made by little children.
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putin
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I must be stupid.

just dont get it!
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Scientists discover the 'soul'?

I 'think' I've seen this movie before.

The theologians created the 'soul' out of nothing.

Then they created theologies which both motivate and 'justify' genocide of other religionists.

Then the scientists come in and create the weapons of mass destruction to achieve the annihilation of millions of people for theological 'reasons', and 'justified' by even more theological 'reasons'.

Both the scientific paradigm and the monotheistic religious paradigm are facing annihilation; the scientific paradigm because of its inability to understand consciousness; and the monotheistic religious paradigm because of its determined unwillingness to acknowledge that Isaiah, Daniel, Jesus and Mohammed taught the Doctrine of "resurrection" as a Doctrine of 'Rebirth'.

So, this 'marriage of convenience'--the scientists 'discovering the 'soul''--is for the purpose of mutual self-preservation...

At the expense, however, of human civilization, most likely.

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The question that I wonder from 3d and dimensiontards is why dont we have memories of the 2d world or know that we from the 2d world. Saying that we do, we dream. I was going to say it would be crazy if we did live in the 2d world and another world entwined with ours or even a being walked past our vision, then back to the dream, at one level of our conciousness maybe one is the true 2d but then what if the dream world is the means to leap to the 5 world. Sleeping is like a rhythm and we dont know why everything needs to sleep. How far back do all the stars go before you find beings that dont need to sleep. I suppose a being that never had to sleep would be a dimension above in a sense.

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The question that I wonder from 3d and dimensiontards is why dont we have memories of the 2d world or know that we from the 2d world.
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What do you mean by the word "we" here?

Who precisely are you speaking for?

You are not speaking for me, for example...

Or Buddha, or Jesus, or J. Krishnamurti, for example.

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4q is saying its BIGGER THAN JUST THE PHYSICAL WORLD, of which scientist can only examine
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I must be stupid.

just dont get it!
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No, your not stupid. They are using circular reasoning to prove themselves. It would only make sense to the retarded.
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4q is saying its BIGGER THAN JUST THE PHYSICAL WORLD, of which scientist can only examine
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Not precisely "bigger than".

Just beyond or prior to the physical world, being non-spatial and non-temporal.

In other words, the concepts of time and space cannot be applied to it at all

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prior or after discovering the warm water and the wheel ?
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The soul scientifically was discovered decades ago.

When a human is dying he exhales his last breath and instantly is 23 grams lighter than he was before.

It always have been 23 grams (instantly after dying).

So... all have somthing in common when all loose exactly 23 grams.


I heard that in the heart there is a little place of pure light and enormous heat.
It's said that that's the place where the souls resides.
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The soul scientifically was discovered decades ago.

When a human is dying he exhales his last breath and instantly is 23 grams lighter than he was before.

It always have been 23 grams (instantly after dying).

So... all have somthing in common when all loose exactly 23 grams.


I heard that in the heart there is a little place of pure light and enormous heat.
It's said that that's the place where the souls resides.
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You mean 21 grams?
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University of Arizona researchers have provided scientific explanation to near-death experiences.

Understanding where consciousness comes from could solve mysteries such as what happens to the "soul" during near-death experiences, or when a person dies.

In a video that recently aired on "Through the Wormhole" narrated by Morgan Freeman on the TV channel Science, Dr. Stuart Hameroff of the University of Arizona shared hypothetical scenarios derived from the Orch-OR (orchestrated objective reduction) theory of consciousness that he and Roger Penrose, mathematician and physicist, proposed in 1996, according to the Huffington Post.

[link to www.balkanchronicle.com]

another article: [link to www.dailymail.co.uk]
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Utter nonsense.

There is no more a "soul" than there is an "ether".

What you are 'seeing' is merely an inference of the consciousness of the 'thinker'.

The understanding of every aspect of consciousness, which is what these scientists are looking for, is simply beyond the framework or paradigm of the scientific method itself.

In other words, they are not really trying to understand consciousness at all; they are doing nothing more than trying to preserve the scientific paradigm as being sufficient to apprehend reality.

It simply isn't.

Michael
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Put a lion in a cage for years without food and watch what happens.
Its appetite will of cause grow and grow, and then you point your finger at its hunger?
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The soul scientifically was discovered decades ago.

When a human is dying he exhales his last breath and instantly is 23 grams lighter than he was before.

It always have been 23 grams (instantly after dying).

So... all have somthing in common when all loose exactly 23 grams.


I heard that in the heart there is a little place of pure light and enormous heat.
It's said that that's the place where the souls resides.
 Quoting: Cudilicious


You mean 21 grams?
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I rememebr 23 grams, could be 21 grams.
I am not sure.
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Enlighten us oh great one. How great must your intelect be. You must feel so lonely in this world. I praise you for such insight.
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(Sigh)

You are merely articulating the general assumption of the consciousness of the 'thinker' that it is the consciousness of the 'thinker' itself which is the end all and be all of consciousness itself, the only dimension of consciousness capable of apprehending reality.

There is also the consciousness of the "self", which is expressed in such things as poetry and the lyrics of songs.

And there is also a third dimension of consciousness beyond the "self" and the 'thinker' which cannot be apprehended by the scientific method since it originates in the consciousness of the 'thinker'.

This third dimension of consciousness is, for example, capable of receiving memories of previous lives and such things as telepathy.

Michael
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(sigh)

You're using philosophical babel as evidence. Not science. Utter tosh.
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That's some funny shit since a "soul" (nephesh) is a living,breathing creature. Now spirit is a whole different matter!
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The soul scientifically was discovered decades ago.

When a human is dying he exhales his last breath and instantly is 23 grams lighter than he was before.

It always have been 23 grams (instantly after dying).

So... all have somthing in common when all loose exactly 23 grams.


I heard that in the heart there is a little place of pure light and enormous heat.
It's said that that's the place where the souls resides.
 Quoting: Cudilicious


You mean 21 grams?
 Quoting: Amilius


I rememebr 23 grams, could be 21 grams.
I am not sure.
 Quoting: Cudilicious


Its 21 grams.
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The soul scientifically was discovered decades ago.

When a human is dying he exhales his last breath and instantly is 23 grams lighter than he was before.

It always have been 23 grams (instantly after dying).

So... all have somthing in common when all loose exactly 23 grams.


I heard that in the heart there is a little place of pure light and enormous heat.
It's said that that's the place where the souls resides.
 Quoting: Cudilicious


Hahahahahaha...

Being a retired respiratory therapist, I would say that there has been an error in measurement, first of all.

But what is being measured is, I would suspect, something referred to as the expiratory reserve volume; which is the amount of air left in the lungs after a complete expiration.

Just sayin'.

Michael
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Enlighten us oh great one. How great must your intelect be. You must feel so lonely in this world. I praise you for such insight.
 Quoting: Ozi dude 33775973


(Sigh)

You are merely articulating the general assumption of the consciousness of the 'thinker' that it is the consciousness of the 'thinker' itself which is the end all and be all of consciousness itself, the only dimension of consciousness capable of apprehending reality.

There is also the consciousness of the "self", which is expressed in such things as poetry and the lyrics of songs.

And there is also a third dimension of consciousness beyond the "self" and the 'thinker' which cannot be apprehended by the scientific method since it originates in the consciousness of the 'thinker'.

This third dimension of consciousness is, for example, capable of receiving memories of previous lives and such things as telepathy.

Michael
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(sigh)

You're using philosophical babel as evidence. Not science. Utter tosh.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34318230


Well, it is not philosophical.

Nor do I claim it as science in the first place.

Consciousness is beyond the paradigm of the scientific method because the scientific method relies upon only one of the three dimensions of consciousness: the consciousness of the 'thinker'; completely disregarding not only the consciousness of the "self"; but, also, the "observing consciousness" of the Buddhist esoteric traditions.

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'beyond' actually can be proven scientifically, if we accept Subjective Science as such.

For example.
Do such and such steps and you will have such and such experience which cannot be measured with any scientific tool.


Since scientific tools came out of thoughts, how can we assume that we SOMETIME in the future will find answers about the source of the source(thought) of the scientific tool? It is purely bullshit. Created will never be able to look into the creator. Dissolving into the creator is, on the other hand, quite a different story.
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Since scientific tools came out of thoughts, how can we assume that we SOMETIME in the future will find answers about the source of the source(thought) of the scientific tool? It is purely bullshit. Created will never be able to look into the creator. Dissolving into the creator is, on the other hand, quite a different story.
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The consciousness Created by God can observe the origin of both the "beast of the sea" consciousness of the "self" and the "beast of the earth" consciousness of the 'thinker', both of which were self-created rather than being Created by the Creator. This is what John is doing in the Revelation of John.

This can be observed.

The statement about "dissolving" is merely an image created by the "self" based upon the image of the "self" in the first place. In other words, it is self-created; and, as such, is an illusion.

Michael

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The soul scientifically was discovered decades ago.

When a human is dying he exhales his last breath and instantly is 23 grams lighter than he was before.

It always have been 23 grams (instantly after dying).

So... all have somthing in common when all loose exactly 23 grams.


I heard that in the heart there is a little place of pure light and enormous heat.
It's said that that's the place where the souls resides.
 Quoting: Cudilicious


Hahahahahaha...

Being a retired respiratory therapist, I would say that there has been an error in measurement, first of all.

But what is being measured is, I would suspect, something referred to as the expiratory reserve volume; which is the amount of air left in the lungs after a complete expiration.

Just sayin'.

Michael
 Quoting: 4Q529


That is a plausable explanation...

But, it does not account for why the measurement is always the same... At least, that is what I am assuming, as people are saying it is always 21 grams...
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My source of information, non-religious and non-scientific has indicated - at the time of death, a persons spirit stream compresses, and the entire life of this incarnation passes before ones eyes...

Then the spirit stream is fully immersed on the astral without passing through the filters of the body...

Note:

We are already in the astral, but the body filters make it difficult to percieve, unless the person is very psychic...
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