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Badass Sandy Hook info compilation... idiots in your life? This oughtta shut 'em up.

 
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How exactly did they secure the area? People were up and down the road leading to the school. People were mingling and having a great ole time getting some laps in at the firehouse. The road leading to the school was NOT closed. Do you not find that odd? How does that fit into your common sense? So, you claim the area was "secured." Based on what?

And if you want to talk protocol...anyone who's taken even a basic course in CPR, knows that securing the area is one of the first things you do. So, the morning of the shootings, they don't close off the road to non-emergency vehicles? Yeah, that makes sense.

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And to the ass that questioned if I was a brown noser in school....why dont YOU take a crack at my logical question??? then you may go find mommy's JCpenny catalog and rub another one out if you wish--you will have earned it.
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Lol. I already know the answer. Personally, I've never met anyone who gratuitously used terms like "tin foil hat," or "conspiracy nut," who did not have "suck up," written all over him.
But hey. Being a good citizen has it benefits. Its just you aren't rock star material. And generally settle for the ugly girls who wish they were f**king the rock stars.
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This coming from the ANONYMOUS poster--too scared for a UserId???
You made absolutely NO sense--Just because I use tin foil hat--in statements-I am a suck up...well your wrong...no suck up--no wishing I had a better life...I am out of mommys basement...I have a real job--a nice job--a recession proof job that pays well. I have 2 beautiful kids, a gorgeous gal--who was cheerleader at our high school...so your assumptions based upon my comments are way off--and I do not give a shit whether you believe me or not--because you have your version-and I have the truth. just like the hoax theories.
How about you sac up and answer the 1 question I have been asking here? And answer it honestly.drevil
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CATEGORICALLY THE BEST THREAD I HAVE EVER SEEN ON GLP.

Nice one, OP.
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Nice Job OP. Really nice job!

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How exactly did they secure the area? People were up and down the road leading to the school. People were mingling and having a great ole time getting some laps in at the firehouse. The road leading to the school was NOT closed. Do you not find that odd? How does that fit into your common sense? So, you claim the area was "secured." Based on what?

And if you want to talk protocol...anyone who's taken even a basic course in CPR, knows that securing the area is one of the first things you do. So, the morning of the shootings, they don't close off the road to non-emergency vehicles? Yeah, that makes sense.
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ZUZU--PLEASE tell me you do nt believe that "circling" vid that has been going around here??? The editing was SOOOO bad!!the poster--or whoever made the video, purposely sepd up the vid so as to make it extra hard to concentrate on any one spot--and for effect. When camera zoomed out--you could se the SAME silver car coming down the road multiple times--vid was looping. later when camera zoomed in--I watched the same guy come out of the door on the right--but NEVER went into the door at the top of screen--he took the EXACT same steps between many cars, Stopped at the EXACT same spot talking to the EXACT same guyy--and putting up his arm and pointing the EXACT same way--no actor--especially if these were DRILL actors--are that good. Vid was looping again. Cmon--you are better than that...gimme something hard.
as for securing the road--was that the ONLY way in or out? If so--you have to secure but at same time allow cars that are necessary to come and go..bottom line-it was a clusterfuck there that NONE of us could EVER imagine..different stories--(which is why it is all believeable), queastions...I dont mind questioning things--it is the close minded dickheads that think THEIR version is the Gods truth, and everyone else is wrong. The agenda pushers. The people that do not listen to LOGIC.

You come up with an answer to my question yet?
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And to the ass that questioned if I was a brown noser in school....why dont YOU take a crack at my logical question??? then you may go find mommy's JCpenny catalog and rub another one out if you wish--you will have earned it.
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Lol. I already know the answer. Personally, I've never met anyone who gratuitously used terms like "tin foil hat," or "conspiracy nut," who did not have "suck up," written all over him.
But hey. Being a good citizen has it benefits. Its just you aren't rock star material. And generally settle for the ugly girls who wish they were f**king the rock stars.
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This coming from the ANONYMOUS poster--too scared for a UserId???
You made absolutely NO sense--Just because I use tin foil hat--in statements-I am a suck up...well your wrong...no suck up--no wishing I had a better life...I am out of mommys basement...I have a real job--a nice job--a recession proof job that pays well. I have 2 beautiful kids, a gorgeous gal--who was cheerleader at our high school...so your assumptions based upon my comments are way off--and I do not give a shit whether you believe me or not--because you have your version-and I have the truth. just like the hoax theories.
How about you sac up and answer the 1 question I have been asking here? And answer it honestly.drevil
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You keep blabbering on about this one simple question.

There could be numerous ways of making a whole group of people go along with it, a whole shitload of money would be a start, especially when considering the "tin foil hat" theory of actors being involved.

Think of all the cash they raked in from the fundraiser sites, the benefit single, the $40,000 cheques....
these are just what we know about.
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Yeah I never said anything about caskets. Go read my threads, dipshit.

Here's a few COMMON SENSE questions for you: does any surveillance footage exist of Adam Lanza and ONLY Adam Lanza going into the school? Any eyewitnesses that could identify them?

How about the video of the cops pulling a gun out of the trunk after dark? They show up at 10:00 AM and then wait 8 hours to open the trunk??? Then proceeds to break basic rules of handling evidence?

I meean, I could go on all night. Read my threads.

You come in here with "assclowns", "idiots," etc. yet you can't debunk any of the information presented by the OP in this thread.

Give me any bit of evidience that Sandy Hook happened in the way put forth by law enforcement and media.
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ok--as for the gun in the trunk...Since you MUST have a law enforcement background--or a forensics background--I mean you HAVE to -to be able to ascertain the order in which to do things at a mass murder scene--and the time it takes to do it in...Yes, hours later they were in the trunk--how long did it actually take them to identify which car was his? Idk-I am just asking . Compare that time to the exact time in which they went into the trunk--oh and dont forget to factor in the DEAD BODIES they had to deal with!! Securing a crime scene as well--I mean THAT does take some time to do as well.
How did they break protocol? were they not wearing gloves--because from ALL the footage i saw--you cant tell if they were wearing gloves or not---another assumption? Again--hit me with ONE THING that PROVES it was a hoax. You are the fool that actually BELIEVES that there are 20 pairs of ready, willing, "unscrupulous" parents, in that ONE town, with kids that ALL go to that ONE school--that would ALL agree to put their kids through this TORTURE for years to come...Why? what is your reasoning for believeing that?
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So people who question things, must automatically believe everything about SH is a "hoax"? Can you please explain why? there are many things that do not add up in mind, things that do not mesh with my common sense. Does that mean I think the entire thing is a hoax? No. But people like you automatically assume that so why is that?

Also, can you explain to me what exactly you saw that convinced you with 100% certainty that everything went down exactly how MSM/LE said it did? Or do you just automatically believe everything MSM spews so need to question a thing? If that's the case, why on earth are you on a site like this?
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ZuZu--find me the links for the things you just brought up here ...the parent at the school, the sweatshirts, etc...you must have links to those.
As to my certainty--I am NOT 100% certain that it was EXACTLY like how MSM reported, because many times they screw stories up just trying to be the FIRST with a scoop. But go back through my posts here--find the one question I keep asking--and answer it--honestly. With the UserID you have here--could I assume you have child(ren)?? You do not have to answer that--but if you do--then it should be very easy to answer my question the way most sane people would--using common sense and logic.. Events like these have misinformation, different stories all the time--do you know what would REALLY make me ask questions and propose theories on an event like this??? If EVERYONE'S stories were exactly the SAME! THAT would have me worried. but Im not.
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Here's the link: [link to www.katiecouric.com]

You want me to answer your questions, when you've answered none of mine? I don't think so. I don't have the answers! I have questions. That. Is. It. What part of this don't people understand??? You think I want to believe that this isn't on the up and up? Of course I don't want to believe that! How disgusting that there is a possibility that it might not be. I'm not here to prove anything to anyone. I have questions that don't add up with what MSM/LE have put forth up to this point. That's it. Nothing more.

I'm sick and tired of people like you lumping all of us into the same boat. We are not all "conspiracy theorists." Some of us question things, and lord forbid you do that around here.

And btw, I don't have to prove HOW they'd get these families to support any of this if it was a hoax. It's beyond the capabilities of my mind. Does that mean, because I can't fathom something such as that, that I have to believe that all the parents we saw in interviews were legit? NO. I don't have to explain how. I won't turn a blind eye to something that doesn't add up just because I can't explain it to you. You, on the other hand, seem to think that's exactly what we should be doing.

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Rob83, just what do you do for a living? I'm kinda curious.
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Rob83, just what do you do for a living? I'm kinda curious.
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Paid shill, obvious.
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Rob83, just what do you do for a living? I'm kinda curious.
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Paid shill, obvious.
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I was wondering if he was a copy editor or professional writer. Maybe he teaches reasoning and critical theory in an accredited institutions.
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Updated, revised from the previous 'badass' info threads.

I would like to preface this post by saying that in no way, shape, or form do I consider myself to be a 'conspiracy theorist'. Everybody knows that human beings never ever ever behave conspiratorially in any way, and that any collusion between men of means in no way represents an exercise of power or influence.

So, let's start looking into this latest mass shooting with a closed mind, eager to cling to the certain truth that our news is unbiased information that is in no way comparable to the black propaganda used to manipulate public opinion in most countries throughout the whole of recorded history.

In fact, here's a former head of the CIA going before a house committee to state on record that his agency has been quite active in manipulating American media instruments:

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

Here's a story from 2002 about how The Pentagon plans to release fake media stories to help promote their agenda!

[link to news.bbc.co.uk]

Man, it's a good thing that never actually happened! Imagine how confused we'd all be!

Here's footage of CNN actually faking live news reports from a soundstage in front of a bluescreen:

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

Here's video of Anderson Cooper interviewing a Sandy Hook parent in front of a bluescreen:

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

Here's the writer of the 9/11 piece for Popular Mechanics being debunked with ease:

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

Here's EVERY INVESTIGATIVE JOURNALIST IN AMERICA FAILING TO NOTICE THE OBVIOUS DAY AFTER DAY FOR 12 YEARS:

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

Here's a link to the Wikipedia entry on Operation Mockingbird:

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

"Operation Mockingbird was a secret Central Intelligence Agency campaign to influence media beginning in the 1950s"

Shee, it's a good thing that all such activity clearly stopped, that the CIA had an attack of conscience and pulled back from such questionable activities!

So, let's hope we've established with certainty that funny business can never ever actually happen in the really real world of which we are all certainly a real part.

It should make it easier to stomach the following information!

ERIC HOLDER:

Here's Attorney General Eric Holder proposing that the public needs to be brainwashed against guns.

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

OBAMA IS CRYING:

Dead kids really bother Obama. Hence the tears. Hey, don't be such a cynic: it's possible that occasionally The President of The United States has unscripted moments in front of the camera.

DAWN HOCHSPRUNG

Here's some articles about heroic school Principal Dawn Hochsprung, who "died trying to subdue the crazed shooter."

[link to www.thedailybeast.com]

[link to newyork.cbslocal.com]

[link to www.cnn.com]

Here's an article from the local paper Newtown Bee, who I am "guessing" would have been on the scene before the major networks.

[link to imageshack.us (secure)]

I've had to link to a screencap because the original article has since been pulled. It used to be here:

[link to newtownbee.com]

"Sandy Hook School Principal Dawn Hochsprung told the Bee that a masked man entered the school..."

So, the heroic dead Principal was giving out interviews to the local newspaper, was she?

In my experience as a media monitor (we like to call ourselves "information logistics officers" instead of "press clippers", thanks) you want to pay close attention to the way stories break early, and try to catch glitches before they get memory-holed. Usually this is most apparent in small, local newspapers.

Apparently, the person writing this newspaper article didn't know who Dawn Hochsprung is.

Here are some other articles about or featuring Dawn Hochsprung from earlier editions of The Newtown Bee, the local paper in a town of 29,000 people.

New Principals Prepare For First Days In The District: [link to newtownbee.com]

A ‘Musical’ Work Of Art Taking Shape At Sandy Hook School: [link to newtownbee.com]

One School One Read Sparks ‘Lemonade War’ In Sandy Hook: [link to newtownbee.com]

Full-Day Kindergarten Considered: [link to newtownbee.com]

That last article was written by John Voket, associate editor of the Newtown Bee, who also wrote the aforementioned article containing an interview with her after she died.

Very strange.

This thoughtful person has mounted a full investigation of the matter:

[link to www.insanemedia.net]

Alright, let's move on...

ACTORS ON THE SET

Here's the father of poor dead little girl Emilie Parker smiling and laughing. As soon as the camera focuses in on him, he yanks hard on the stick and starts working up the tears.

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

Nothing unusual so far, right?

Maybe he's smiling because people have strange reactions to grief and intense stress.

What about Victoria Soto, Emilie’s teacher? Is she a real person? Did she really die? Let's ask her grieving family of creepy giggling siblings:

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

Maybe they're smiling because people have strange reactions to grief and intense stress.

Here's a photo of a family that's been available online since at least May of 2012.

[link to dallasgoldbug.com]

Need a datestamp?

Fine, here's a Youtube video uploaded in May of 2012. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

Skip ahead to 16:18 to see the photo in question.

The upstanding gentleman uploading these photos and videos is a class-one nutjob anarchist who thinks that this is a family of actors, "The Greenberg family", that's being used in fake news reports to stage false flag events.

Yes, that means the source for this photo is questionable. That is an ad hominem irrelevence in this case; the photo, its existence, and its datestamp speak for themselves.

Coincidentally, the family he singled out in this instance actually happens to live in Newtown, Connecticut! Wow, he was way off base on this one! Here's "The Greenberg family" being interviewed live on CNN, crying convincingly about the tragic death of poor old heroic Dawn Hochsprung.

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

Assuming your brain isn't screaming at you to reject out of hand that these are the same people, at this point you should be asking yourself: Why are pictures of Nick and Laura Phelps of Newtown showing up in conspiracy theory videos posted online back in May by people investigating unrelated cases?

Is it coincidence?

Are they identical twins?

Is it bad lighting?

If you're still reading along and aren't thinking this is all a bit funny, then you're probably suffering from cognitive dissonance.

If you want to check this out for yourself, here's the Newtown Bee's directory of local phone numbers. It's searchable!

[link to newtownbee.com]

Give Nick Phelps a call and ask him what he thinks about all this: 203-270-0012

Anyways, moving on...

THE MEDICAL EXAMINER IS JIZZING HIMSELF

Here's a totally convincing series of outtakes from an interview with the 'Medical Examiner' Wayne Carver...

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

Yeah, he seems pretty on the ball. I'm glad the government will be making policy recommendations based on his assertions and opinions.

In February of 2011, Wayne Carver requested the passage of Bill 1054, "An Act Concerning the Disclosure of Autopsy Reports" which would prevent thye Office of the Chief Medical Examiner from unilaterally disclosing autopsy reports on pediatric homicides to the general public. Very prescient.

[link to www.cga.ct.gov]

More on the adventures of Dr. Carver:

Chief medical examiner ready to quit
[link to www.wtnh.com]

Carver's Request of passing the provision of Bill 1054
[link to www.cga.ct.gov]

Bill 1054 passed This act shall take effect as follows and shall amend the following sections: Section 1 October 1, 2011 1-210(b)(3)
[link to www.cga.ct.gov]

State M.E. Carver withdraws his resignation
[link to www.ctpost.com]

Asst. M.E. charged with perjury
[link to www.ctpost.com]

DA: Conn. doctor's trial testimony inconsistent
[link to www.boston.com]

Conn. worker placed on leave after allegedly showing husband Adam Lanza's body
[link to www.northjersey.com]

THE EVER-CHANGING STORY

One problem with figuring out what really happened at Sandy Hook is that the story as reported by the media, rather than being clarified over time, seemingly became more fragmented and bizarre.

For example, let's ask The Hartford Courant about their journalism standards:

12/15
"Lanza next arrived at teacher Victoria Soto's classroom. Soto is believed to have hidden her 6- and 7-year old students in a classroom closet. When Lanza demanded to know where the children were, Soto tried to divert him to the other end of the school by saying that her students were in the auditorium.

But six of Soto's students tried to flee. Lanza shot them, Soto and another teacher who was in the room. Later, in their search for survivors, police found the remaining seven of Soto's students still hiding in the closet. They told the police what had happened."

[link to www.courant.com]


12/22

"The arriving officers encountered a shocking scene in Soto's classroom. Lanza had shot her, as well as special education teacher Anne Marie Murphy and six of Soto's 6- and 7-year old students. Seven of Soto's students were found huddled and unharmed in a classroom closet, apparently hidden by Soto when she heard shooting. The other students fled the classroom."

[link to www.courant.com]


12/25

"Does this help explain what Soto would do nearly five years later when gunman Adam Lanza entered her classroom at Sandy Hook Elementary School after slaughtering every child and teacher Lauren Rosseau in the next room? She ushered special education teacher Anne Marie Murphy and several children under her desk. She moved other children behind a bookcase or barrier. When Lanza came in, Soto was the only one he saw. She faced him. He killed her, and then he killed the children and Murphy under the desk. Murphy died shielding a child in her arms. Other children escaped the classroom. Soto's actions saved children's lives."

[link to www.courant.com]


WHAT THE FUCK IS WITH GENE ROSEN?

Let's watch some video footage of Gene Rosen.

Why is he giving the same performance in each video?

Why is he giving the same performance to the spanish news service?

Why is it soooo terrible?

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

Here's some high definition aerial footage of Gene Rosen walking aimlessly around the parking lot of the firehouse next door to where he lives at a time when he was supposedly molesting stuffed toys in his livingroom for the amusement of the surviving children:

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

THE LONE GUNMAN

So, Adam Lanza, a 20 year old, awkward young man with autism, killed 26 people in under nine minutes with an assault rifle, including the time it took to pause and reload?

Let's see what that kind of gunmanship looks like in the real world:

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

Well, just what do we know about Adam Lanza?

Adam P. Lanza: Social Security Death Index (SSDI) Death Record
Name: Adam P. Lanza
State of Issue: New Hampshire
Date of Birth: Wednesday April 22, 1992
Date of Death: Thursday December 13, 2012
Est. Age at Death: 20 years, 7 months, 21 days
Confirmation: Proven
[link to www.genealogybank.com]

Adam Lanza the suspected shooter died 1 day before the Sandy Hook event took place, in the state of New Hampshire.

Nancy Lanza: Social Security Death Index (SSDI) Death Record
Name: Nancy Lanza
State of Issue: New Hampshire
Date of Birth: Tuesday September 06, 1960
Date of Death: Friday December 14, 2012
Est. Age at Death: 52 years, 3 months, 8 days
Confirmation: Proven
[link to www.genealogybank.com]


Huh, so the alleged shooter died the day before the Sandy Hook incident, did he?

Was Adam Lanza a Universal Soldier?

Nancy Lanza was then found dead shortly after also in New Hampshire.

She was a teacher at the school:

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

No, wait, we need to clarify that, she was a survivalist prepper gun nut:

[link to www.businessinsider.com]

Here's a kid saying he saw a suspect in handcuffs on the ground when leaving the school:

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

Here's a news report about the arrest of a second shooter:

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

Here's an eyewitness alleging a man in camo pants with a dark jacket was walked out of the woods and arrested:

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

Here's the police band chatter from the day of the shooting:

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

At 1:35:07 we hear "One suspect may be wearing a nun outfit, headed toward Danbury and Stoney Hill, purple van."

Here's a picture of nuns leaving the scene of the shooting, wearing size 14 shoes, clutching suspiciously at their overcoats:

[link to www.chicagotribune.com]

Here's a closeup shot. Do these girls seem a bit manly to you?

[link to i.huffpost.com]

THE CRIME SCENE:

This article is titled, "CNN video of police charge at Sandy Hook is not Sandy Hook" and is somewhat self-explanatory.

[link to www.digitaljournal.com]


THE MURDER WEAPON:

Here's the medical examiner swearing that the weapon used in all the murders was a .223 Bushmaster rifle.

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

Here's CNN reporting that the rifle was found in the trunk of the car:

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

Here's MSN reporting the same thing. "We've been told by several officials that he left (the rifle) in the car."

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

Here's CBS news reporting that "law enforcement officials" had confirmed that a high-powered rifle had been found in the back of the vehicle.

[link to www.cbsnews.com]

Here's an article from a paper that contradicts the medical examiner's story:

[link to hillnholler.net]

"The gunman was wearing dark clothing, a mask, a bulletproof vest, and was carrying four guns. Investigators said the gunman fired his weapon at least 100 times. Three guns were found — a Glock and a Sig Sauer, both pistols, inside the school, and a .223-caliber rifle in the back of a car."

Here's actual video footage of a longgun, apparently a shotgun, being removed from the trunk of the vehicle. The footage was taken at night, placing it at least 8-10 hours after the shooting, and well after "law enforcement officials" would have issued statements about the .223 rifle included in the news items mentioned above.

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

Here's Connecticut police spokesman Paul Vance the next morning, saying specifically that all weapons involved in this incident were recovered in proximity of the shooter:

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

PAUL VANCE

Here's the Paul Vance of the Connecticut police threatening to prosecute people who post misinformation about the shooting on social media sites:

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

One wonders what would constitute "misinformation" in such a situation, and whether he intends to prosecute CNN for their fuckups.

Let's see what happens when Paul Vance is put to the question. This is also an interesting lesson object in how to actually be a journalist, so fellows like Anderson Cooper might want to take note.

Call 1: [link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

Call 2: [link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

Vance appears in the second of the two calls, but both are somewhat interesting.

Here's Paul Vance dodging a question about Adam Lanza's mother, at the 12:35 mark:

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

FURTHER DOWN THE BATPOLE

So let's talk about Satanists, and a bit about Batman.

Here's an introduction to Ted Gunderson:

Theodore L. Gunderson (November 7, 1928 - July 31, 2011 was an American Federal Bureau of Investigation Special Agent In Charge and head of the Los Angeles FBI. He was most famous for handling the Marilyn Monroe and John F. Kennedy cases. He was the author of the best selling book How to Locate Anyone Anywhere.

Here's a video of Ted alleging the existence of a vast underground network of Satanic pedophiles and drug smugglers operating inside the United States through the alphabet intelligence agencies.

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

Hunh. Well, that's a bit weird.

Satanists, you say?

Oh look, the "Church of Satan" has an outpost in Newtown, Connecticut:

[link to www.satanservice.org]

Well, what's the worst that could happen?

Oh, well. Did anything else happen in Newtown, Connecticut this year?

Well, this guy died.

[link to www.imdb.com]

That'd be the guy who drew the words "Sandy Hook" on the prop map of Gotham City used in the movie "the Dark Knight Rises", as seen here:

[link to www.google.ca]

That'd be the movie where there was another somewhat fishy mass shooting earlier this year at the premiere, by the way.

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

Scott's boss was this guy, Nathan Crowley:

[link to www.imdb.com]

Nathan is a descendent of Alesteir Crowley:

[link to www.theartnewspaper.com]

If you don't know who Alesteir Crowley is, he's a famous occultist who ran in high society circles a number of decades ago and was functionally a consultant on occult methods to many of the movers and shakers of the day... you know, the sorts of people who might have lots of money to put generational agendas into effect.

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

Why such people would have any interest in "Batman" is beyond me, but maybe it has to do with him being a sort of Dionysian counterpart to the Apollonic sun god, "Superman", as noted by author Frank Miller, who famously said he views the character as "a dionysian figure, a force for anarchy that imposes an individual order."

These next two videos won't mean anything to the uninitiated who aren't somewhat clued into just what sort of ass-paddling occultic weirdness the aristocracy is heavily into.

Nonetheless, for your consideration, Episode 33 of the show "Batman" entitled "Fine Finny Fiend" wherein we learn that Bruce Wayne's great-grandfather was the founder of Skull and Bones.

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

And if that wasn't weird enough for you, here's Episode 911, I mean, 119 of the same show. Dr. Cassandra (Sandy if you prefer to shorten it) and her sidekick Kaballah rob the Alchemical Bank and Trust with an invisibility pill before creating a criminal empire with them at the apex.

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

Anyways, all I can say for sure is that Connecticut seems to have some well-heeled Batman fans.

[link to ca.ign.com]

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So, let's not get carried away with all this. Just because there seem to be weird occult references imbedded in our popular media is no reason to assume a conspiracy or anything.

Let's look at Judy Garland's famous album, "Annie get your gun" released on the Sandy Hook record label.

[link to www.thejudyroom.com]


Let's see what the kids at Sandy Hook elementary are up to these days.


[link to vigilantcitizen.com]

Let's have a quick look at creepy old Gene Rosen's (of Newtown) website, which has since been taken down, but luckily was screencaptured.

[link to i.imgur.com]

There is, indeed, no place like home, Gene.
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Rob83, just what do you do for a living? I'm kinda curious.
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Paid shill, obvious.
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I was wondering if he was a copy editor or professional writer. Maybe he teaches reasoning and critical theory in an accredited institutions.
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How exactly did they secure the area? People were up and down the road leading to the school. People were mingling and having a great ole time getting some laps in at the firehouse. The road leading to the school was NOT closed. Do you not find that odd? How does that fit into your common sense? So, you claim the area was "secured." Based on what?

And if you want to talk protocol...anyone who's taken even a basic course in CPR, knows that securing the area is one of the first things you do. So, the morning of the shootings, they don't close off the road to non-emergency vehicles? Yeah, that makes sense.
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ZUZU--PLEASE tell me you do nt believe that "circling" vid that has been going around here??? The editing was SOOOO bad!!the poster--or whoever made the video, purposely sepd up the vid so as to make it extra hard to concentrate on any one spot--and for effect. When camera zoomed out--you could se the SAME silver car coming down the road multiple times--vid was looping. later when camera zoomed in--I watched the same guy come out of the door on the right--but NEVER went into the door at the top of screen--he took the EXACT same steps between many cars, Stopped at the EXACT same spot talking to the EXACT same guyy--and putting up his arm and pointing the EXACT same way--no actor--especially if these were DRILL actors--are that good. Vid was looping again. Cmon--you are better than that...gimme something hard.
as for securing the road--was that the ONLY way in or out? If so--you have to secure but at same time allow cars that are necessary to come and go..bottom line-it was a clusterfuck there that NONE of us could EVER imagine..different stories--(which is why it is all believeable), queastions...I dont mind questioning things--it is the close minded dickheads that think THEIR version is the Gods truth, and everyone else is wrong. The agenda pushers. The people that do not listen to LOGIC.

You come up with an answer to my question yet?
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I'm talking about the unedited version of that video. I don't care about the looping video. The fact is none of those people looked like they were in a distressed situation. You will not convince me that they did. Also, people were interviewed right on the road leading to the school. Again, not securing the area. It really makes sense to you that media would be allowed to interview people so close to the scene of a mass shooting? And so early on? Come on.

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"None of us could ever imagine." Same old excuse. I can tell you this much. You don't have to be an Einstein to know that that road should have been closed off. They did not close the road to non-emergency vehicles. There was no reason to let any other vehicles on that road besides emergency vehicles. Your explanation does not mesh with my common sense. Sorry. I'm not saying you're "wrong," I'm saying it's completely illogical imo. Not closing off that road=not securing the scene.

Also, hopefully, you get a chance to watch the interview Katie Couric did with that parent. I'm curious how you explain what she heard vs. what teachers in interviews/LE described.

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You forgot about the part that includes Bloomberg, and his event coordinator, spotted by the Nurse, who stated that she saw the shooter, whose mother (Vollmer) taught Kindergarden at the school. It was the same guy that was reported seen there the day before arguing with staff at the school....this was all quickly buried, and for good reason, by somebody with "BIG BUCKS!" Bloomberg must be getting a little nervous....
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OP, missing from the section about the murder weapon is the Police chatter from 12/14/12. 9:55:25 AM

"Be advised, we do have multiple weapons including long rifles and shotguns"

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I agree this should be put in, there is a section about conflicting weapon reports and this definitely needs to be in there.

This trumps all other conflicting reports because it is a direct audio of a police officer saying there is a shotgun inside the school, he cannot be mistaken as shotguns are so distinct, and he should not know anything about a shotgun because it is officially in the boot of a car.

It cannot be dismissed as just the media getting something wrong.

The cop either got his script wrong, or they changed the script later.
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How exactly did they secure the area? People were up and down the road leading to the school.
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Think about it. If someone or an /intelligence agency/gov/foreign gov wished to use a massacre of school children to influence gun legislation what would be one of the first problems? The first problem is one shooter is not practical for various reasons. So multiple trained shooters are needed to ensure the necessary causalities.

The second problem is a planned massacre by multiple shooters is an outrageous crime. Not a gun tragedy. An outrageous crime demands justice and retribution, not a demand for gun legislation. As such the problem for the plotter would be to make a this operation look like a single shooter, crazed gunman job despite all the evidence including surveillance video to the contrary.



However, given the horrendous nature of the crime and the impossibility that anyone much less parents of the slain would co-operate in a cover up how could this be accomplished?

Consider. A mock shooting drill that day which went live. When bodies are found. People are totally confused because they thought this was a drill. Hundreds of families get their kids back but don't know what to think. They can't get answers from their kids because only one or two kids might have actually seen anything. So as far as they know the Sandy Hook Massacre did occur as described in the Media.

20 families bury their kids, but are put under police protection and told not to talk because there might be other accomplices looking for witnesses.

Authorities are thus in a public relations predicament. They find evidence of mass shooters but did not catch the shooters and have no leads to catch the shooters, info if released would cause mass outrage, and calls for resignations, investigations and emotional demands to protect kids from terrorist.

As such all involved --parents, kids, teachers, law enforcement, media all become reluctant participants for various reasons in an information vacuum.

Only a handful in upper Law Enforcement know what happened, and these people don't know what to do. They are damned if they endorse a phony investigation and damn if they tell the public the truth.

No. This can't hold together for long. But perhaps long enough for gun legislation to pass. Then it will be covered upped and white washed under the guise of National Security.
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You forgot about the part that includes Bloomberg, and his event coordinator, spotted by the Nurse, who stated that she saw the shooter, whose mother (Vollmer) taught Kindergarden at the school. It was the same guy that was reported seen there the day before arguing with staff at the school....this was all quickly buried, and for good reason, by somebody with "BIG BUCKS!" Bloomberg must be getting a little nervous....
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There is no evidence that it was Vollmer the nurse saw, or that it was Vollmer that was reported arguing with staff the day before.

This is pure conjecture.
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ok--as for the gun in the trunk...Since you MUST have a law enforcement background--or a forensics background--I mean you HAVE to -to be able to ascertain the order in which to do things at a mass murder scene--and the time it takes to do it in...Yes, hours later they were in the trunk--how long did it actually take them to identify which car was his? Idk-I am just asking . Compare that time to the exact time in which they went into the trunk--oh and dont forget to factor in the DEAD BODIES they had to deal with!! Securing a crime scene as well--I mean THAT does take some time to do as well.
How did they break protocol? were they not wearing gloves--because from ALL the footage i saw--you cant tell if they were wearing gloves or not---another assumption? Again--hit me with ONE THING that PROVES it was a hoax. You are the fool that actually BELIEVES that there are 20 pairs of ready, willing, "unscrupulous" parents, in that ONE town, with kids that ALL go to that ONE school--that would ALL agree to put their kids through this TORTURE for years to come...Why? what is your reasoning for believeing that?
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So people who question things, must automatically believe everything about SH is a "hoax"? Can you please explain why? there are many things that do not add up in mind, things that do not mesh with my common sense. Does that mean I think the entire thing is a hoax? No. But people like you automatically assume that so why is that?

Also, can you explain to me what exactly you saw that convinced you with 100% certainty that everything went down exactly how MSM/LE said it did? Or do you just automatically believe everything MSM spews so need to question a thing? If that's the case, why on earth are you on a site like this?
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ZuZu--find me the links for the things you just brought up here ...the parent at the school, the sweatshirts, etc...you must have links to those.
As to my certainty--I am NOT 100% certain that it was EXACTLY like how MSM reported, because many times they screw stories up just trying to be the FIRST with a scoop. But go back through my posts here--find the one question I keep asking--and answer it--honestly. With the UserID you have here--could I assume you have child(ren)?? You do not have to answer that--but if you do--then it should be very easy to answer my question the way most sane people would--using common sense and logic.. Events like these have misinformation, different stories all the time--do you know what would REALLY make me ask questions and propose theories on an event like this??? If EVERYONE'S stories were exactly the SAME! THAT would have me worried. but Im not.
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Here's the link: [link to www.katiecouric.com]

You want me to answer your questions, when you've answered none of mine? I don't think so. I don't have the answers! I have questions. That. Is. It. What part of this don't people understand??? You think I want to believe that this isn't on the up and up? Of course I don't want to believe that! How disgusting that there is a possibility that it might not be. I'm not here to prove anything to anyone. I have questions that don't add up with what MSM/LE have put forth up to this point. That's it. Nothing more.

I'm sick and tired of people like you lumping all of us into the same boat. We are not all "conspiracy theorists." Some of us question things, and lord forbid you do that around here.

And btw, I don't have to prove HOW they'd get these families to support any of this if it was a hoax. It's beyond the capabilities of my mind. Does that mean, because I can't fathom something such as that, that I have to believe that all the parents we saw in interviews were legit? NO. I don't have to explain how. I won't turn a blind eye to something that doesn't add up just because I can't explain it to you. You, on the other hand, seem to think that's exactly what we should be doing.
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ZUZU--losing respect for you FAST...I will play with you for a little bit though--I asked my question first. I have answered a few of yours already--its your turn.
As to the link you just posted--are you serious??!! So the fuck what? There were sweatshirts in the car that Adam drove to the school? What does that prove? That the car owner is a SLOB??? Were they bloodstained sweatshirts? Or maybe just shirts required by the owner of the car to wear at his job. And when 2nd mom got there it was quiet for what? all of about a minute or so based upon her interview...then she heard gunshots. ok--maybe she got there at the exact moment he was reloading--or getting another gun out..maybe it was quiet because he had already started shooting people and they who were still alive were hiding so as to not be seen or heard. We do not haver the exact floorplan here..So what? You STILL have nothing. you like others are posting things that like this vid here, doesnt even have any legitimate questions to ask?? The lady heard gunshots...period. Pretty simple--dont over think this one. YOu still have no proof, and until I see proof there is no reason to believe anything else but it happened..and kids died, and its sad.
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You forgot about the part that includes Bloomberg, and his event coordinator, spotted by the Nurse, who stated that she saw the shooter, whose mother (Vollmer) taught Kindergarden at the school. It was the same guy that was reported seen there the day before arguing with staff at the school....this was all quickly buried, and for good reason, by somebody with "BIG BUCKS!" Bloomberg must be getting a little nervous....
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There is no evidence that it was Vollmer the nurse saw, or that it was Vollmer that was reported arguing with staff the day before.

This is pure conjecture.
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There is no evidence that Adam Lanza - the shy autistic basement nerd - was the person that the nurse saw, nor had been arguing with the staff the day before (and for what reason, since he had zero connection to this school, while Vollner certainly does...).

Also; we need any information on the survivors - at least Mrs. Hammond! She is the sole person that could crack this enigma open.
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How exactly did they secure the area? People were up and down the road leading to the school.
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Think about it. If someone or an /intelligence agency/gov/foreign gov wished to use a massacre of school children to influence gun legislation what would be one of the first problems? The first problem is one shooter is not practical for various reasons. So multiple trained shooters are needed to ensure the necessary causalities.

The second problem is a planned massacre by multiple shooters is an outrageous crime. Not a gun tragedy. An outrageous crime demands justice and retribution, not a demand for gun legislation. As such the problem for the plotter would be to make a this operation look like a single shooter, crazed gunman job despite all the evidence including surveillance video to the contrary.



However, given the horrendous nature of the crime and the impossibility that anyone much less parents of the slain would co-operate in a cover up how could this be accomplished?

Consider. A mock shooting drill that day which went live. When bodies are found. People are totally confused because they thought this was a drill. Hundreds of families get their kids back but don't know what to think. They can't get answers from their kids because only one or two kids might have actually seen anything. So as far as they know the Sandy Hook Massacre did occur as described in the Media.

20 families bury their kids, but are put under police protection and told not to talk because there might be other accomplices looking for witnesses.

Authorities are thus in a public relations predicament. They find evidence of mass shooters but did not catch the shooters and have no leads to catch the shooters, info if released would cause mass outrage, and calls for resignations, investigations and emotional demands to protect kids from terrorist.

As such all involved --parents, kids, teachers, law enforcement, media all become reluctant participants for various reasons in an information vacuum.

Only a handful in upper Law Enforcement know what happened, and these people don't know what to do. They are damned if they endorse a phony investigation and damn if they tell the public the truth.

No. This can't hold together for long. But perhaps long enough for gun legislation to pass. Then it will be covered upped and white washed under the guise of National Security.
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I guess it's a possibility. The thing that is so strange to me is that these "drills" are so frequent in the US. Or at least they seem to be.

I feel like it's very similar to the James Holmes case...nothing's adding up for me.
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There is no evidence that Adam Lanza - the shy autistic basement nerd - was the person that the nurse saw, nor had been arguing with the staff the day before (and for what reason, since he had zero connection to this school, while Vollner certainly does...).

Also; we need any information on the survivors - at least Mrs. Hammond! She is the sole person that could crack this enigma open.
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Oh, I agree that there is no evidence Adam Lanza was at the school, or that anyone was even shot.

All the evidence points to a completely staged event.

Don't expect Hammond to come out and say anything, she is just another willing participant in a completely fraudulent event and, like the kids, was not shot at all.
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I don't think the NSA is getting their money's worth with Rob83.
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I think they are chosen for their personal discretion and abasement to societal norms rather than for their insightfulness or talent.

Satan is very displeased with you, Rob83. You better work harder or you'll be taking a trip to the 6th floor for disciplinary review.
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There is no evidence that Adam Lanza - the shy autistic basement nerd - was the person that the nurse saw, nor had been arguing with the staff the day before (and for what reason, since he had zero connection to this school, while Vollner certainly does...).

Also; we need any information on the survivors - at least Mrs. Hammond! She is the sole person that could crack this enigma open.
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Oh, I agree that there is no evidence Adam Lanza was at the school, or that anyone was even shot.

All the evidence points to a completely staged event.

Don't expect Hammond to come out and say anything, she is just another willing participant in a completely fraudulent event and, like the kids, was not shot at all.
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I still think someone should call Nick Phelps up.
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So people who question things, must automatically believe everything about SH is a "hoax"? Can you please explain why? there are many things that do not add up in mind, things that do not mesh with my common sense. Does that mean I think the entire thing is a hoax? No. But people like you automatically assume that so why is that?

Also, can you explain to me what exactly you saw that convinced you with 100% certainty that everything went down exactly how MSM/LE said it did? Or do you just automatically believe everything MSM spews so need to question a thing? If that's the case, why on earth are you on a site like this?
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ZuZu--find me the links for the things you just brought up here ...the parent at the school, the sweatshirts, etc...you must have links to those.
As to my certainty--I am NOT 100% certain that it was EXACTLY like how MSM reported, because many times they screw stories up just trying to be the FIRST with a scoop. But go back through my posts here--find the one question I keep asking--and answer it--honestly. With the UserID you have here--could I assume you have child(ren)?? You do not have to answer that--but if you do--then it should be very easy to answer my question the way most sane people would--using common sense and logic.. Events like these have misinformation, different stories all the time--do you know what would REALLY make me ask questions and propose theories on an event like this??? If EVERYONE'S stories were exactly the SAME! THAT would have me worried. but Im not.
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Here's the link: [link to www.katiecouric.com]

You want me to answer your questions, when you've answered none of mine? I don't think so. I don't have the answers! I have questions. That. Is. It. What part of this don't people understand??? You think I want to believe that this isn't on the up and up? Of course I don't want to believe that! How disgusting that there is a possibility that it might not be. I'm not here to prove anything to anyone. I have questions that don't add up with what MSM/LE have put forth up to this point. That's it. Nothing more.

I'm sick and tired of people like you lumping all of us into the same boat. We are not all "conspiracy theorists." Some of us question things, and lord forbid you do that around here.

And btw, I don't have to prove HOW they'd get these families to support any of this if it was a hoax. It's beyond the capabilities of my mind. Does that mean, because I can't fathom something such as that, that I have to believe that all the parents we saw in interviews were legit? NO. I don't have to explain how. I won't turn a blind eye to something that doesn't add up just because I can't explain it to you. You, on the other hand, seem to think that's exactly what we should be doing.
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ZUZU--losing respect for you FAST...I will play with you for a little bit though--I asked my question first. I have answered a few of yours already--its your turn.
As to the link you just posted--are you serious??!! So the fuck what? There were sweatshirts in the car that Adam drove to the school? What does that prove? That the car owner is a SLOB??? Were they bloodstained sweatshirts? Or maybe just shirts required by the owner of the car to wear at his job. And when 2nd mom got there it was quiet for what? all of about a minute or so based upon her interview...then she heard gunshots. ok--maybe she got there at the exact moment he was reloading--or getting another gun out..maybe it was quiet because he had already started shooting people and they who were still alive were hiding so as to not be seen or heard. We do not haver the exact floorplan here..So what? You STILL have nothing. you like others are posting things that like this vid here, doesnt even have any legitimate questions to ask?? The lady heard gunshots...period. Pretty simple--dont over think this one. YOu still have no proof, and until I see proof there is no reason to believe anything else but it happened..and kids died, and its sad.
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First of all, let's get a few things straight, k? 1) I'm not here to earn your respect; I don't care if I have it or not. You don't rent any space in my brain. 2) I'm not here to "play." 3)I'm not here to "prove" anything to you or anyone else. Believe what you want. You seem to think this is some sort of game, like your job is to "debunk" whatever I, or anyone else who posts about this case, say. Why would you feel that's your mission?

As for your question, what's the question? I haven't read this entire thread. I already said, it's not my job to figure out how they would coordinate everyone's involvement in this...if that's the question you're referring to.

Really? That's your first response regarding the clothing that parent saw? And four doors being open? That makes sense for a quick getaway? Common sense - you can't buy it. Unfortunately.

"You still have nothing."

I'm not here to "give" you anything. Why do you take my posts, or anyone else's for that matter, so personally? Get over yourself.

When she got to the school, she saw 8-10 children running towards the firehouse...which she felt was "odd." This indicates, that something had already happened at the school (ie gunshots were already fired - the first shots were fired at the principal and one other adult in the lobby of the school). She and the other parent were standing at the front entrance of the school which is where lobbies normally are. I saw a floor plan of the school, but can't find it in my links. Maybe someone else has it in here? I'm pretty sure it was from some ABC website. Anyway, why did they not see the bodies since these were the first shooting victims, and they were shot in the lobby of the school? In the floor plan I saw, it appeared that one would be able to see straight down the hallway, all the way to the office area.

"They found the two women first, their bodies lying on the lobby floor."

[link to www.nytimes.com]

The other parent was standing at the doors prior to Barbara arriving. How long had she been there, and why didn't she see the shooter? If the principal and other female had already been shot in the lobby, one would be able to see that from the front doors. Even if they were shot outside the office,I still think it'd be visible from the front doors of the school. Wouldn't the other parent have had to hear gunshots prior to Barbara arriving? Why didn't she call 911? Why was she just standing there? Who "ushered" these parents away? Because by the sounds of that statement, the shooter was still actively shooting. LE was not in the school at that point?

Anyway, Rob, your comments about me not providing you with "proof" indicate there's no use in continuing these exchanges; I'm not here to "prove" anything. Good luck in your debunking endeavours. You're obviously more guided by your ego than truth.

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What parent would EVER agree to FAKE their child's death--to the point of funerals?
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Likely no parent would. If 20 families were burying kids it only proved kids died. It wouldn't prove Adam L was the shooter or only shooter or disprove multiple shooters.

What I suspect is the parents of these dead kids are reading all the bullshit and unanswered questions surrounding this investigation and that in time, these same parents will be the loudest voice demanding and open, honest and transparent criminal investigation of this crime.
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can't we all just get along??

people need to stick to information/facts and leave the petty arguing behind them!!
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Updated, revised from the previous 'badass' info threads.

I would like to preface this post by saying that in no way, shape, or form do I consider myself to be a 'conspiracy theorist'. Everybody knows that human beings never ever ever behave conspiratorially in any way, and that any collusion between men of means in no way represents an exercise of power or influence.

<<SNIP>>

Oh, well. Did anything else happen in Newtown, Connecticut this year?

Well, this guy died.

[link to www.imdb.com]

That'd be the guy who drew the words "Sandy Hook" on the prop map of Gotham City used in the movie "the Dark Knight Rises", as seen here:

[link to www.google.ca]

That'd be the movie where there was another somewhat fishy mass shooting earlier this year at the premiere, by the way.

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Thanks for the link, from which i found a video of Susan Getzinger, the widow of Scott, the Property Master who died in Newtown awhile back, and as she points out--the fatal accident may have been related to TEXTING by the teenage driver that hit him in a head-on collison.

You will see and feel the deep anxiety and pain that Susan Getzinger is left with, and her utter frustration at not being able to get anyone to listen to her about anything that matters. She expresses frustration with the school system that not only declined to move her bus stop for safety reasons, but furthermore, intimidated her to the point that she felt her children would be taken away.

She is frustrated that gun laws are being parced when no one will address texting while driving, which is far more of a daily threat. She is upset that her pediatrician didn't know the compounds used in vaccines. She is perhaps most upset that so many children are on PSYCHOTROPIC DRUGS. She is kind of upset all around, and she receives applause in this recent bipartisan hearing in Connecticut, as i believe she is pulled away from the mic, due to time constraints.

I know this board is generally friendly, but i wouldn't want anyone to target her at all. Her pain is palpable. Please be easy on her, but watch this vid and know that everyone in Connecticut isn't "bad" but alot of folks feel outside looking in.

[EDITED to include the link for the article where this vid was posted:]
[link to www.insanemedia.net]
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Good post eos and thanks for the link hf
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Well, at least you can see what a person suffering from real grief looks, and acts like... compare to the weird, canned, artificial responses from the Sandy Hook "parents".
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School shootings predicted 23 years ago? UN global gun grab, European Union - William Cooper

Published on Feb 2, 2013

Did William Cooper predict the recent wave of school shootings and the UN global gun grab 23 years ago? In this video he also speaks with immense accuracy about the European Union before it was even formed and explains the United Nations plan to disarm the people of the world. He also predicted that Bin Laden would be blamed for 911 before it happened.

All of this so many years ago, and his warning to us such a long time ago seems to now be unfolding before us on the world stage. This is his January 22nd 1997 broadcast of HOUR OF THE TIME, where he discusses a global gun grab agenda outlined in the 60s which seems to be unfolding itself today.

Check out some other William Cooper videos and Hour of the Time broadcasts to see what else he had to say about what seems to be happening in our world today.

Watch the Sandy Hook documentary here:
SANDY HOOK - THE DOCUMENTARY




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OP just got put on a list !
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He is in good company. I am sure we have our lists too.

The federal government declared war on the Constitution in the 1860's at the behest of international bankers who instigated the war and indebted both sides , a dept they have never escaped to this day, and though the constitutionally mandated institutions are still in place they have totally disregarded the Constitution and have been thoroughly subverted and taken over by a foreign power.

It is the military's job to straighten it out and install a temporary government until real[i/] elections with properly informed voters can he held.. That's why you take that oath and are trained explicitly not to obey orders if they conflict with it.

We need to get the jews out of control of our critical infrastructure and get rid of jewland security and the CIA by force of law. I have no problem with jews controlling 2% of the media, publishing ,finance and entertainment industries, that is a representative number. 100% is not tenable and it is why we are in the shape we are and media lies.

I am for deporting jews to Israel. It's a matter of national security, real national security. When you hear that catchphrase now it is not our security they are talking about, but globalist jews.

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