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RED ALERT! The Electric universe/ Our sun is growing/ Red Giant/Why is the sun white now?

 
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Thread: Only 55% of all Americans know that the sun is a star.
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Ouch!

That really does burn,Ffs.

We have much work still to do it appears - Though saying that,you and I know the Sun is a Star but we are still quite far from being able to define what a Star is exactly,though we are making head-way.

Rice and Peas.

sunhf

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The thing that hath been,
is That which shall be;
and that which is done is that which shall be done:and there is no new thing under the Sun.
Ecclesiastes 9:1
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Ouch!

That really does burn,Ffs.

We have much work still to do it appears - Though saying that,you and I know the Sun is a Star but we are still quite far from being able to define what a Star is exactly,though we are making head-way.

Rice and Peas.

sunhf

ripples
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


My interest peaks more now into the red giant aspect of stars. I understand now they are electric, there is really no debate.

In order to begin red giant phase, sol would have to be acted upon by an outside force.

ibex ribbon

These changes are not associated with maunder or dalton. No planetary changes were observed. Only sun-earth interaction.

You said on the sol'thread crop circles are made made, 98% I would say yes.

However ones like: [link to www.google.com]

And

cropdop

Are not.

Ropes and sticks do not do what is done to the crop in these certain circles. Bent in a way that growth is accelerated, woven together. No group of people did that period.

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The Sun reminds me of a giant arc lamp




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Ouch!

That really does burn,Ffs.

We have much work still to do it appears - Though saying that,you and I know the Sun is a Star but we are still quite far from being able to define what a Star is exactly,though we are making head-way.

Rice and Peas.

sunhf

ripples
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


My interest peaks more now into the red giant aspect of stars. I understand now they are electric, there is really no debate.

In order to begin red giant phase, sol would have to be acted upon by an outside force.

ibex ribbon

These changes are not associated with maunder or dalton. No planetary changes were observed. Only sun-earth interaction.

You said on the sol'thread crop circles are made made, 98% I would say yes.

However ones like: [link to www.google.com]

And

cropdop

Are not.

Ropes and sticks do not do what is done to the crop in these certain circles. Bent in a way that growth is accelerated, woven together. No group of people did that period.
 Quoting: Da fuq


You have got to be joking?

Ok,carry on.
The thing that hath been,
is That which shall be;
and that which is done is that which shall be done:and there is no new thing under the Sun.
Ecclesiastes 9:1
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What do you mean by 'No Planetary Changes'?
The thing that hath been,
is That which shall be;
and that which is done is that which shall be done:and there is no new thing under the Sun.
Ecclesiastes 9:1
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Jupiter losing some stripes, Saturn storms. I think all but 1 of the planets has experienced some significant change.

My question is, during the last maunder or dalton, was their any observations made on the other planets.

If you watch S.O video, "Energy from space" this event occurring is not limited to the earth and sun.





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I mean, i'm not trying to scare anyone. Just legitimate observations.

No Fear

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:43tg43:fe3c32

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Look at the corona hf


How does a sun gain strength but become weaker at the same time? Curious, when we observe red giant events from earth, the stars usually become whiter and brighter as they fall into red giant.

I mean, if I was the designer. I would do the same thing to us right now too.

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Jupiter losing some stripes, Saturn storms. I think all but 1 of the planet has experienced some significant change.

My question is, during the last maunder or dalton, was their any observations made on the other planets.

If you watch S.O video, "Energy from space" this event occurring is not limited to the earth and sun.





6:20



I mean, i'm not trying to scare anyone. Just legitimate observations.

No Fear
 Quoting: Da fuq


I see what you meant now : )

I am not aware of any observed Planetary Changes during the previous Maunder/Dalton Minimum,I will hunt for data later to see if there was or not...as is it is now 05:34AM here and I'm running on emptyhf

I'll check your other question nowsun
The thing that hath been,
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and that which is done is that which shall be done:and there is no new thing under the Sun.
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Look at the corona hf


How does a sun gain strength but become weaker at the same time? Curious, when we observe red giant events from earth, the stars usually become whiter and brighter as they fall into red giant.

I mean, if I was the designer. I would do the same thing to us right now too.
 Quoting: Da fuq


With regard the image of the 07 Corona and present capture;If Red Giant phase was commencing we'd see the Chromosphere expanding rather than the Corona also I don't really think the examples show a expanding Corona in as much as they show the Corona in a different period in the Cycle.

Highlighted - Do you mean the output of the Sun increasing during a Red Giant phase?

Edit:Here Da'Fuq -

'As you recall from earlier reading, a star will spend 90% of its lifetime on the main sequence burning Hydrogen into Helium. At the point when the core's supply of Hydrogen is depleted, there is no longer any outward thermonuclear pressure, and gravity collapses the core. During this process of internal collapse, the Hydrogen nuclei surrounding the core suddenly fuse into Helium. The combination of core heating and shell fusion generates tremendous outward pressure and, in the case of our Sun, the star will brighten by a factor of 1000, its absolute magnitude climbing from +4.6 to -3. Long-lived observers on Earth would witness the expansion of the Sun as it engulfs Mercury and nearly reaches Venus. The Luminosity of the star is increasing due to the intense inner reactions, but the expanding outer envelope is increasing even faster, and the surface temperature drops from 6000 K down to about 3200 K. The star drops in spectral sequence from G to K, and finally settles in the M realm as a Red Giant, perhaps M2 or M3 -

Eventually, the collapsing core increases the internal pressure to densities of a metric ton per cubic centimeter, 100,000 times that of Lead. The increased pressure also raises the kinetic energy of the core nuclei to 100 million K. At this incredibly hot temperature, the helium ash from previous fusion reactions becomes fuel for a new series of reactions. Two normal Helium atoms fuse to make a very unstable isotope of Beryllium (8Be), which immediately falls apart - typically within 10e-16 seconds - back into two Helium nuclei. Since this accomplishes nothing as far as the star is concerned, the incredible pressures of this evolved star force three Helium nuclei together at once to make Carbon (12C). Sometimes, an attacking Helium nucleus can turn a Carbon nucleus into Oxygen (16O).
The star suddenly jumps back to "life" with a new source of fuel for thermonuclear reactions, and the collapse of the core is halted. Not only is it halted, but the core actually expands a bit. The star stabilizes in hydrostatic equilibrium, with a slight shrinking of the outer envelope and a movement up in spectral class to the orange K giants, where it will survive, in the case of our own Sun, for another billion years as a dimmer version of Alderberan or Acturus, and with an absolute magnitude near +1
' [link to cde.nwc.edu]

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Say what you want about Pane Andov but the man is smart.
he says the sun started turning into a red giant 12/12/12
and will continue until 03/13/13 then,Poof
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Say what you want about Pane Andov but the man is smart.
he says the sun started turning into a red giant 12/12/12
and will continue until 03/13/13 then,Poof
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27936953


Yeah, the sun was menacing today in northern cali. It is almost to the point that I can not view the sun through my welding hood.

Regardless, the sun is going full retard and messing with everything around it.

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:43tg43:fe3c32

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Look at the corona hf


How does a sun gain strength but become weaker at the same time? Curious, when we observe red giant events from earth, the stars usually become whiter and brighter as they fall into red giant.

I mean, if I was the designer. I would do the same thing to us right now too.
 Quoting: Da fuq


With regard the image of the 07 Corona and present capture;If Red Giant phase was commencing we'd see the Chromosphere expanding rather than the Corona also I don't really think the examples show a expanding Corona in as much as they show the Corona in a different period in the Cycle.

Highlighted - Do you mean the output of the Sun increasing during a Red Giant phase?

Edit:Here Da'Fuq -

'As you recall from earlier reading, a star will spend 90% of its lifetime on the main sequence burning Hydrogen into Helium. At the point when the core's supply of Hydrogen is depleted, there is no longer any outward thermonuclear pressure, and gravity collapses the core. During this process of internal collapse, the Hydrogen nuclei surrounding the core suddenly fuse into Helium. The combination of core heating and shell fusion generates tremendous outward pressure and, in the case of our Sun, the star will brighten by a factor of 1000, its absolute magnitude climbing from +4.6 to -3. Long-lived observers on Earth would witness the expansion of the Sun as it engulfs Mercury and nearly reaches Venus. The Luminosity of the star is increasing due to the intense inner reactions, but the expanding outer envelope is increasing even faster, and the surface temperature drops from 6000 K down to about 3200 K. The star drops in spectral sequence from G to K, and finally settles in the M realm as a Red Giant, perhaps M2 or M3 -

Eventually, the collapsing core increases the internal pressure to densities of a metric ton per cubic centimeter, 100,000 times that of Lead. The increased pressure also raises the kinetic energy of the core nuclei to 100 million K. At this incredibly hot temperature, the helium ash from previous fusion reactions becomes fuel for a new series of reactions. Two normal Helium atoms fuse to make a very unstable isotope of Beryllium (8Be), which immediately falls apart - typically within 10e-16 seconds - back into two Helium nuclei. Since this accomplishes nothing as far as the star is concerned, the incredible pressures of this evolved star force three Helium nuclei together at once to make Carbon (12C). Sometimes, an attacking Helium nucleus can turn a Carbon nucleus into Oxygen (16O).
The star suddenly jumps back to "life" with a new source of fuel for thermonuclear reactions, and the collapse of the core is halted. Not only is it halted, but the core actually expands a bit. The star stabilizes in hydrostatic equilibrium, with a slight shrinking of the outer envelope and a movement up in spectral class to the orange K giants, where it will survive, in the case of our own Sun, for another billion years as a dimmer version of Alderberan or Acturus, and with an absolute magnitude near +1
' [link to cde.nwc.edu]
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


I'm just saying, for the sun being at an all time low that it is at now. How does it appear like it is operating at a higher level now as opposed to 6 years ago.

Considering the sun is not burning anything, I think it is other means which dictates a stars lifespan. These blasts from the galactic center seem intelligent enough.

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But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
2 Peter 3:10

Be not afraid of sudden fear, neither of the desolation of the wicked, when it cometh.
Proverbs 3:25

If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.
1Corinthians 3:15

When you walk through the fire, you shall not be burned,
Nor shall the flame scorch you.

Isaiah 43:2

For behold, the Lord will come with fire
And with His chariots, like a whirlwind,
To render His anger with fury,
And His rebuke with flames of fire.

Isaiah 66:15


Don't really follow the bible, but I noticed your sig.

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But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
2 Peter 3:10

Be not afraid of sudden fear, neither of the desolation of the wicked, when it cometh.
Proverbs 3:25

If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.
1Corinthians 3:15

When you walk through the fire, you shall not be burned,
Nor shall the flame scorch you.

Isaiah 43:2

For behold, the Lord will come with fire
And with His chariots, like a whirlwind,
To render His anger with fury,
And His rebuke with flames of fire.

Isaiah 66:15


Don't really follow the bible, but I noticed your sig.
 Quoting: Da fuq


Nor do I,but I can discuss ithf

My sig. is basically G-d saying 'Shit Happens' chuckle

I need to catch a couple Hours kip Bro'sleeping

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Night bro. sleepy
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Would these changes in the Sun also change its gravity?
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Would these changes in the Sun also change its gravity?
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If any planetary body grew it would command more of a gravitational pull yes.
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Would these changes in the Sun also change its gravity?
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If any planetary body grew it would command more of a gravitational pull yes.
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Even if it is losing 'Mass'?
The thing that hath been,
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and that which is done is that which shall be done:and there is no new thing under the Sun.
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Would these changes in the Sun also change its gravity?
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If any planetary body grew it would command more of a gravitational pull yes.
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Even if it is losing 'Mass'?
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I believe an expanding sun would push inner planets away, but eventually consume them. Our sol is every small on the scale of sols. lol

If earth were to suddenly double in size it would command more of a gravitational pull. I think an expanding sun may trump gravity.

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Would these changes in the Sun also change its gravity?
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If any planetary body grew it would command more of a gravitational pull yes.
 Quoting: Da fuq


Even if it is losing 'Mass'?
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I believe an expanding sun would push inner planets away, but eventually consume them. Our sol is every small on the scale of sols. lol

If earth were to suddenly double in size it would command more of a gravitational pull. I think an expanding sun may trump gravity.
 Quoting: Da fuq


So next question is could that change in gravity also change the orbit of asteroid DA14
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If any planetary body grew it would command more of a gravitational pull yes.
 Quoting: Da fuq


Even if it is losing 'Mass'?
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium


I believe an expanding sun would push inner planets away, but eventually consume them. Our sol is every small on the scale of sols. lol

If earth were to suddenly double in size it would command more of a gravitational pull. I think an expanding sun may trump gravity.
 Quoting: Da fuq


So next question is could that change in gravity also change the orbit of asteroid DA14
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I'm telling you the sun is going red giant... why are you worried about this rock? In regard to your question though yes that would most likely deviate the current path its on.
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Even if it is losing 'Mass'?
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I believe an expanding sun would push inner planets away, but eventually consume them. Our sol is every small on the scale of sols. lol

If earth were to suddenly double in size it would command more of a gravitational pull. I think an expanding sun may trump gravity.
 Quoting: Da fuq


So next question is could that change in gravity also change the orbit of asteroid DA14
 Quoting: Keneh


I'm telling you the sun is going red giant... why are you worried about this rock? In regard to your question though yes that would most likely deviate the current path its on.
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Because I was wondering and I thought I would ask.
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I believe an expanding sun would push inner planets away, but eventually consume them. Our sol is every small on the scale of sols. lol

If earth were to suddenly double in size it would command more of a gravitational pull. I think an expanding sun may trump gravity.
 Quoting: Da fuq


So next question is could that change in gravity also change the orbit of asteroid DA14
 Quoting: Keneh


I'm telling you the sun is going red giant... why are you worried about this rock? In regard to your question though yes that would most likely deviate the current path its on.
 Quoting: Da fuq


Because I was wondering and I thought I would ask.
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and everything is connected
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Da Fuq is such a red giant expert, what us your eta of explosion?
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"where it will survive, in the case of our own Sun, for another billion years as a dimmer version of Alderberan or Acturus, and with an absolute magnitude near +1"

What color would our new sun be? Blue or yellow or orange? Will this be a sort of overnight transition? People are talking about 2-year long revolutions in other threads...
The Rainbow Comes For Us All.

I'm begging you, watch this slide show & share on Facebook.
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Do yourself a favor, Kill your ego.
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Da Fuq is such a red giant expert, what us your eta of explosion?
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Expansion can take anywhere from months to a few years in other stars we have observed. So whenever the Sun is ready I guess, we have a pretty small sun. Smaller suns may need more time then larger ones once the interaction with the new energy begins. By energy I mean the one sent our way.

ibex ribbon

I would say within the last year or so, that the sun looked like an obnoxious bright white in the sky. I have sensitive blue eyes but it has never been like this.

I always attributed it to the failing magnetosphere/shrinking atmosphere. The sun is going berzerk right now, affecting everything around it.

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