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Yet more evidence emerges that our universe is a grand simulation created by an intelligent designer .

 
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Far-fetched. Real science does not leap to absurd conclusions.
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More and more evidence is coming to light. It's only a matter of time before we have 100% proof and christianity will be gone forever only a part of history.. The designers know we are getting close, but don't worry they've got something installed for us (pun intended). I bet they find us close to discovering the truth to be very amusing..
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Those who are "of spirit of antichrist", whose deistic spirits are without direction, wandering in the wilderness, will receive the false light of Lucifer.
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Re: Yet more evidence emerges that our universe is a grand simulation created by an intelligent designer .
Thank you, niphritique.

You are making the case that God made this universe as a simulation....basically an idea I think all christians can agree with - since we are SPIRIT beings, living in a HUMAN body - essentially living out a simulation of being real.

Secondly, to your last point: The Bible was carried down in folklore for thousands of years before being written in words, and yet essentially is the same story from beginning to end. Over 40 different authors, three different languages, over 1,500 years to complete it, and yet it has the same underlying theme. Other "holy books" of other religions have basically the same general "story" written in them as well, and some of the same "folklore." A flood. A very important holy man coming out of heaven. Giants inhabiting the earth once upon a time. An end time battle and the final winner is one who will "return"....

Coincidence? Prolly not!
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I wouldn't take the bible as completely accurate. It has been tampered with so many times throughout history.
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Far-fetched. Real science does not leap to absurd conclusions.
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That's the kind of narrow-minded dogma that prevents science from progressing.
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Far-fetched. Real science does not leap to absurd conclusions.
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It most certainly does. What passes as "real" science, anyhow.
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Universe is a time matrix of everything happening in an instance.
Corp/o/Ration
A Single Entity (group with the same paragon) Restricting consumption of scarce commodities.
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the end objective of all beings here on this realm of existence, is to be able to look into the souls mirror , and know without any doubts that you were a good person.
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Far-fetched. Real science does not leap to absurd conclusions.
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The notion that the world was round was once considered an absurd conclusion.
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Re: Yet more evidence emerges that our universe is a grand simulation created by an intelligent designer .
the big question is who/ what is the designer
what's its origin
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here is one person's take:

[link to naturalmoney.org]

In Genesis 1:26 God seems to suggest that we live in a simulation of a real world with the words: "Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness." On Simulation-argument.com Professor Nick Bostrom argues that at least one of the following must be true:
- The human species is very likely to go extinct before reaching a posthuman stage.
- Any posthuman civilisation is extremely unlikely to run a significant number of simulations of their evolutionary history (or variations thereof).
- We are almost certainly living in a computer simulation.

Based on the argument above, it is likely that the universe is a virtual reality. Humans have an inclination to build simulations. It is also likely that humans developed an advanced civilisation that is able to build virtual realities long ago so humans are not likely to go extinct before reaching a posthuman stage. There have been billions of years in which humanity could have become an advanced civilisation that is able to build virtual realities, so the likelihood of humanity entering this phase in this specific timeframe is small, compared to any timeframe in the past. It is therefore reasonable to assume that we are almost certainly living in a computer simulation.

The assumption that this universe is a virtual reality can be supported with the following findings:
- Technology like the holodeck appears to be feasible less than a century from now, while humans are inclined make virtual realities with simulations of humans. Billions of virtual realities like this universe may exist, so it is unlikely that this universe is real.
- The existence of synchronicity and coincidences indicates that there is a script behind all events.
- In a virtual reality supernatural and paranormal events are possible.
- In a virtual reality miracles are possible that seem to defy the laws of nature as have been described in The Bible.

The assumption that this virtual reality is owned by someone we call God can be supported with the following findings:
- In Genesis 1:26 God seemst to suggest that we live in a copy of a real world with the words: "Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness."
- Even though there have been thousands of gods and goddesses worshipped in the past, none of them presented himself or herself, except one.
- It is unlikely that by pure chance a religion of a small and often dispersed people survived for more than 1,500 years and then became the basis for three major world religions, while it has been foretold to Abraham that all the peoples will be blessed in him (Gen. 18:17-18).

This document outlines evidence supporting the idea of this universe being a simulation. The purpose of this universe seems to be entertainment and this is explained in more detail in God Is a Woman And Jesus Was Her Husband. The evidence suggests that everything that ever happened was intended by God, including the worst chapters in history like World War I and World War II. God is not good or evil, but in many ways just like us. If humans write a script or a story then bad things can happen. Normal human beings can act violently in a virtual reality. The examples presented in this document may hurt feelings, most notably the incidents in which God seems to have made a joke out of killing people. I cannot change the facts but I hope that the needless killing may end one day, and that this day will be soon [+]. This is possible because the universe most likely is a virtual reality.
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"(NaturalNews) There's a lot of buzz in the news about a new scientific study that statistically supports the idea that our known universe is actually a grand computer simulation. This is mainstream science, and the idea isn't a whacky as you might first suppose. I've actually written about this several times in articles about consciousness and the nature of reality. This news, by the way, also supports the idea of a Creator who brought this universe -- and everything in it -- into existence by design."


"One obvious answer is that we built it! Not "we" the humans here on Earth, but rather the "we" which is a highly advanced civilization of seemingly supernatural beings with incomprehensibly powerful technology. We collectively built the simulation, the theory goes, and then agreed to selectively insert our consciousness into the simulation in order to have a "human life experience" on this planet. But that's only one possibility from all this."

[link to www.naturalnews.com]

[link to arxiv.org]
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If that's really the case, I just want to know; What was I thinking?!
"When tyrants tremble in their fear, and hear their death knell ringing,
When friends rejoice both far and near, how can I keep from singing"

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Re: Yet more evidence emerges that our universe is a grand simulation created by an intelligent designer .
^^^oops, sorry to duplicate niphritique's post.

What IF:

the WE, as in we will create them in OUR image, was God the Mother and God the Father who cloned themselves into Adam and Eve?
THIS makes the most logical sense to me.
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"(NaturalNews) There's a lot of buzz in the news about a new scientific study that statistically supports the idea that our known universe is actually a grand computer simulation. This is mainstream science, and the idea isn't a whacky as you might first suppose. I've actually written about this several times in articles about consciousness and the nature of reality. This news, by the way, also supports the idea of a Creator who brought this universe -- and everything in it -- into existence by design."


"One obvious answer is that we built it! Not "we" the humans here on Earth, but rather the "we" which is a highly advanced civilization of seemingly supernatural beings with incomprehensibly powerful technology. We collectively built the simulation, the theory goes, and then agreed to selectively insert our consciousness into the simulation in order to have a "human life experience" on this planet. But that's only one possibility from all this."

[link to www.naturalnews.com]

[link to arxiv.org]
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If that's really the case, I just want to know; What was I thinking?!
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^This.
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This news, by the way, also supports the idea of a Creator who brought this universe -- and everything in it -- into existence by design.
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No, it doesn't. Animal brains are parallel computers containing simulations of their environment, and they've not been created but simply evolved.
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More and more evidence is coming to light. It's only a matter of time before we have 100% proof and christianity will be gone forever only a part of history.. The designers know we are getting close, but don't worry they've got something installed for us (pun intended). I bet they find us close to discovering the truth to be very amusing..
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And if we don't by the appointed time I hope they come back anyway and go to the Vatican to bitch slap the Pope.
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Re: Yet more evidence emerges that our universe is a grand simulation created by an intelligent designer .
Thank you, niphritique.

You are making the case that God made this universe as a simulation....basically an idea I think all christians can agree with - since we are SPIRIT beings, living in a HUMAN body - essentially living out a simulation of being real.

Secondly, to your last point: The Bible was carried down in folklore for thousands of years before being written in words, and yet essentially is the same story from beginning to end. Over 40 different authors, three different languages, over 1,500 years to complete it, and yet it has the same underlying theme. Other "holy books" of other religions have basically the same general "story" written in them as well, and some of the same "folklore." A flood. A very important holy man coming out of heaven. Giants inhabiting the earth once upon a time. An end time battle and the final winner is one who will "return"....

Coincidence? Prolly not!
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Oral stories tend to be distorted very fast. I have an alternative suggestion about the origins of the first chapters of Genesis, but this is speculative without evidence.

The first chapters about Creation and Paradise may have been written down on clay tablets in Mesopotamia that are lost. Abraham, who came from Mesopotamia, may have known their contents.

Starting with the accounts of Abraham, the stories are detailed, so it is hard to imagine that they have been carried down in folklore. I think they must have been written down around that time.

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If its a spiritual test wouldn't part of the test be whether you figure out the bible is bullshit?
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...

hmm

That could work.

[link to www.gematrix.org]
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Here is a number for you 4367
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The number of times you've been put on Xanax?
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The conscious self is the intelligent designer. When self buries this knowing in his/her subconscious, the design or 'programming' takes over. The programming of the matrix repeats over and over because it has no intelligent direction by itself. More condensed and corrupted scenarios are derived as spiritual entropy of interpretation occurs over the long term. The dense, corrupted energies 'settle at the bottom' of the collective psyche that sustains the matrix. When the matrix programming degrades, the subconscious bubbles to the service. Personifications of judgement, evil, temptation, etc. manifest at that point.
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Re: Yet more evidence emerges that our universe is a grand simulation created by an intelligent designer .
Very interesting post OP. Without question, we are manipulated beyond our wildest imaginations. Everything constructed by The Thugs in Charge is designed to keep us from becoming aware of what we really are. The processed foods we eat, the soda we drink, the flouride in water calcifying the pineal gland, the television images we are bombarded with on a daily basis, pharmaceuticals, EVERYTHING in this "physical" world is designed to keep us trapped and fearful. Through my experiences, I have learned that the only access to our spiritual essence is through stillness of the mind. And The Thugs in Charge are hell bent in creating anything but. The resounding question is WHY? And the only viable answer is CONTROL.
Become still, quiet the mind, realize there is indeed NOTHING to fear, and you'll be amazed at what you will discover.
To conquer fear is the beginning of wisdom.
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Re: Yet more evidence emerges that our universe is a grand simulation created by an intelligent designer .
The last clip of MIB has stayed with me..sounds like the health ranger is describing this:

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"(NaturalNews) There's a lot of buzz in the news about a new scientific study that statistically supports the idea that our known universe is actually a grand computer simulation. This is mainstream science, and the idea isn't a whacky as you might first suppose. I've actually written about this several times in articles about consciousness and the nature of reality. This news, by the way, also supports the idea of a Creator who brought this universe -- and everything in it -- into existence by design."


"One obvious answer is that we built it! Not "we" the humans here on Earth, but rather the "we" which is a highly advanced civilization of seemingly supernatural beings with incomprehensibly powerful technology. We collectively built the simulation, the theory goes, and then agreed to selectively insert our consciousness into the simulation in order to have a "human life experience" on this planet. But that's only one possibility from all this."

[link to www.naturalnews.com]

[link to arxiv.org]
 Quoting: God1337


If that's really the case, I just want to know; What was I thinking?!
 Quoting: INK3


^This.
 Quoting: God1337


Most of us enjoy watching movies. A really great movie is one where the plot is not predictable yet the characters act familiar enough that we can, at least for a moment, believe they are real and we get lost in watching the film. We have a degree of empathy to where, even though we know it's fiction, we almost feel like we're in danger when the character is. We worry about people that never even existed.

Let's say that you're watching a movie right now and to give you the most "realistic" experience, you found a way to convince yourself that you're no longer watching a movie by allowing your thoughts to precede what happens. In other words, when you think "Raise my right hand" and your right hand raises, you're given the illusion of control and therefore, this must not be fiction.

Have you ever been thinking about something and then, "coincidentally", it happened?

Take it one step further. Think of all your friends and loved ones. You wrote them into this script so that there would be relationships that carry so much value to you that you would refuse to believe this is all a simulation. You chose to forget the ones that you know in your other life so you can fully enjoy this film.

The bottom line is that as technology continues to advance throughout the next century, millennium etc.. we will inevitably have a well enough understanding of the world around us to create video games and simulations that are as realistic as life itself. The question is - how do you know that didn't already happen?

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Re: Yet more evidence emerges that our universe is a grand simulation created by an intelligent designer .
Are you Living in a Computer Simulation
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The Real Matrix
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Two words: Infinite Regression.
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too many smart people figuring things out and using big words.

What we really need is stephen hawking to chime in.


row row row your boat....

see? this was answered a long long time ago.
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Re: Yet more evidence emerges that our universe is a grand simulation created by an intelligent designer .
Obviously nothing in the original theory suggests there would be anything like monotheists assume some creator god would be. The whole premise is that if we constructed an universe as a computer simulation what would it be like and then started looking for phenomenon like that in the world. And found them. As far as that interpretation is correct anyway. Any speculation about the creators of the simulation isn't really forbidden but not really science either. Pure speculation in science isn't usually considered part of the theory (being devoid of any evidence) but more like invitation and inspiration for further forming of hypotheses. On a side note it's sort of amusing that religious people usually hostile to science take any proposed theory into account.
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Re: Yet more evidence emerges that our universe is a grand simulation created by an intelligent designer .
the big question is who/ what is the designer
what's its origin
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You are. You (intentionally) don't remember making this world which is why you believe this world to be real.
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That's correct. To get a good idea watch "The Nines" with Ryan Renolds. The movie will give you a good idea of what it's really all about. You are the programmer and just like in the movie, you could be just addicted to this game, lost in it and you have completely forgotten your true home.

Fuck watching the matrix. Watch the nines or the 13th floor to get a better idea.

[link to imdb.com]
We live in a simulation.
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More and more evidence is coming to light. It's only a matter of time before we have 100% proof and christianity will be gone forever only a part of history.. The designers know we are getting close, but don't worry they've got something installed for us (pun intended). I bet they find us close to discovering the truth to be very amusing..
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Not sure how it proves Christianity is wrong, if anything it backs it up. But I guess it depends on which way your looking at it.

Keep waiting for your little green men though, I think you'll find they aren't the creator your looking for....Though I will admit the whole Ancient Aliens line of thinking is very fascinating and does have merit.

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I have always said that earth is some god-child's piss ant farm.....afro
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the big question is who/ what is the designer
what's its origin
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Why assume its so grand ? We might well be the "sims" in a kids computer game of ancestral simulation 50 years down the line.

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