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Half Baked Christians, Doctrine, Meaning, and Wisdom

 
ParadigmShift (OP)
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Everyone who has an ear bent toward faith in Jesus Christ can plainly understand the gospel.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18738533


Really?

Then plainly explain the reply of Jesus to the Sadducees in the Gospel of Luke and the Gospel of Matthew.

Michael
 Quoting: 4Q529



I will second your response of 'Right' Michael.

God tells us the eyes would not see, and the ears would not hear.

hf

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But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith Yahweh, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their Elohim, and they shall be my people.
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It's really funny neither of you have mentioned how one "understands" the Gospel (Gospel of the Kingdom of God/heaven). There is only one way, through discernment granted by God/Son through the Holy Spirit of God. All other "gibberish" is just that nonsense of man. God said it so well when He said "the wisdom of man is foolishness to Me..."!
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It's really funny neither of you have mentioned how one "understands" the Gospel (Gospel of the Kingdom of God/heaven). There is only one way, through discernment granted by God/Son through the Holy Spirit of God. All other "gibberish" is just that nonsense of man. God said it so well when He said "the wisdom of man is foolishness to Me..."!
 Quoting: anonymous 33746375


And it is foolish how you saw what you only wanted to see. I lay out how to understand. Love the father, and like any good Dad, he will teach you. My first lesson was about the kingdom and how it is represented, and second this one is about The seed, Jesus, and the rock is was built on. My third will bring it to church and how the church has not been a good sower of His seed.

I break it into 'laymen' terms so everybody can understand, bit I always bring the true meaning. I will never go against his word, but I will show you how Men have went against and changed His.
But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith Yahweh, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their Elohim, and they shall be my people.
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In Proverbs what was the only thing that Soloman prayed for? He could have asked for anything, but what was it he asked for?
But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith Yahweh, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their Elohim, and they shall be my people.
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Good morning Brothers and Sisters


This message is for every member on this forum, we are all God's children. It is particularly intended for every poster that likes to quote scriptures, post YouTube videos, and spread messages without real meaning. Everyone of you are half baked Christians with the spiritual equivalency of invalids. Just as the supposed teachers in the time of Jesus, the Pharisees pushed doctrine and never knew the true meaning. How many times did Jesus chastise them? There are only a few on this forum that are truly enlightened to speak, the rest of you are false prophets because you have no idea regarding the true ways of the Kingdom. You post this, spread that, and little you know it is deceit and deception you spread.

As in my other post concerning Sack Cloth and the disciples, I have come to teach and Shepard. I come to open eyes. I deserve nothing, for God deserves it all, and might the wisdom he gave me bring him Glory.

Now here is my second lesson. Jesus told Peter to build his house upon this rock. How does this relate to the parable of the sower? Many of you will look and not study, but if you do study you might just find out how mislead and spiritually bankrupt you really are.

Might the grace of God befall all of you, might it be his light that guides and directs you towards the narrow path. I owe everything to God, and the only things he wants in return is your full love and obedience. How can we love him if we do not know him? You have one father, and he loves you. Ask for the knowledge, ask that you might drink from the waters of wisdom, and guess what he will allow you to.

Again, Jesus's words to Peter relates directly with the Parable of the Sower.
 Quoting: ParadigmShift


He's telling Peter to build the church on the rock that is Jesus Christ. What's the problem with this? What aren't people understanding about this? I'm not sure what you're getting at?
 Quoting: Luke25



Nope. It goes back to the parable of the sower. Jesus knew the condition that the church would be in before he died. He knew man would inherit the church. While part of your statement is true, build this church on my words, you have to connect all the dots.

He said rock because it goes back to the parable of the sower. He could have used any word, but he said rock.
 Quoting: ParadigmShift


crowd-applause
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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In Proverbs what was the only thing that Soloman prayed for? He could have asked for anything, but what was it he asked for?
 Quoting: ParadigmShift


wisdom and understanding
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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In Proverbs what was the only thing that Soloman prayed for? He could have asked for anything, but what was it he asked for?
 Quoting: ParadigmShift


wisdom and understanding
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


Yep. A gift that can be handed to all of us if we approach God on His terms.
But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith Yahweh, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their Elohim, and they shall be my people.
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It's really funny neither of you have mentioned how one "understands" the Gospel (Gospel of the Kingdom of God/heaven). There is only one way, through discernment granted by God/Son through the Holy Spirit of God. All other "gibberish" is just that nonsense of man. God said it so well when He said "the wisdom of man is foolishness to Me..."!
 Quoting: anonymous 33746375


True and the way to the holy spirit is by obedience to his laws statutes and commands.
THE HOLY SPIRIT IS GIVEN UNTO THOSE WHO OBEY acts 5:32:hf:
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
:knoup:
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Good morning Brothers and Sisters


This message is for every member on this forum, we are all God's children. It is particularly intended for every poster that likes to quote scriptures, post YouTube videos, and spread messages without real meaning. Everyone of you are half baked Christians with the spiritual equivalency of invalids. Just as the supposed teachers in the time of Jesus, the Pharisees pushed doctrine and never knew the true meaning. How many times did Jesus chastise them? There are only a few on this forum that are truly enlightened to speak, the rest of you are false prophets because you have no idea regarding the true ways of the Kingdom. You post this, spread that, and little you know it is deceit and deception you spread.

As in my other post concerning Sack Cloth and the disciples, I have come to teach and Shepard. I come to open eyes.

 Quoting: ParadigmShift



Wow........such hate and false judgement against others and elevating yourself. Where is the love and humility in your post brother?

The pharisees were a prime example of hate and false judgement, and self righteousness. They too thought only they were qualified, but in fact Jesus told them they were nothing but empty shells.

Have a good day.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


^^Lisa said it best.

We're all tested spiritually & no one holds true 100% of the time, no even you, your highness
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It's really funny neither of you have mentioned how one "understands" the Gospel (Gospel of the Kingdom of God/heaven). There is only one way, through discernment granted by God/Son through the Holy Spirit of God. All other "gibberish" is just that nonsense of man. God said it so well when He said "the wisdom of man is foolishness to Me..."!
 Quoting: anonymous 33746375


True and the way to the holy spirit is by obedience to his laws statutes and commands.
THE HOLY SPIRIT IS GIVEN UNTO THOSE WHO OBEY acts 5:32:hf:
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


It is from love that we are obedient. When we obey we are rewarded. We cannot 'untap' the true power of the spirit when we are in direct violation of the law. Only governments, and churches reward criminals. God does not, if they don't come clean, He punishes them.
But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith Yahweh, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their Elohim, and they shall be my people.
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Good morning Brothers and Sisters


This message is for every member on this forum, we are all God's children. It is particularly intended for every poster that likes to quote scriptures, post YouTube videos, and spread messages without real meaning. Everyone of you are half baked Christians with the spiritual equivalency of invalids. Just as the supposed teachers in the time of Jesus, the Pharisees pushed doctrine and never knew the true meaning. How many times did Jesus chastise them? There are only a few on this forum that are truly enlightened to speak, the rest of you are false prophets because you have no idea regarding the true ways of the Kingdom. You post this, spread that, and little you know it is deceit and deception you spread.

As in my other post concerning Sack Cloth and the disciples, I have come to teach and Shepard. I come to open eyes.

 Quoting: ParadigmShift



Wow........such hate and false judgement against others and elevating yourself. Where is the love and humility in your post brother?

The pharisees were a prime example of hate and false judgement, and self righteousness. They too thought only they were qualified, but in fact Jesus told them they were nothing but empty shells.

Have a good day.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


^^Lisa said it best.

We're all tested spiritually & no one holds true 100% of the time, no even you, your highness
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33597030


It may also be profitable for OP to reread Ezek. 34, especially v 15, since OP calls himself a shepherd.
We become like that to which we are devoted. Choose wisely.
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Good morning Brothers and Sisters


This message is for every member on this forum, we are all God's children. It is particularly intended for every poster that likes to quote scriptures, post YouTube videos, and spread messages without real meaning. Everyone of you are half baked Christians with the spiritual equivalency of invalids. Just as the supposed teachers in the time of Jesus, the Pharisees pushed doctrine and never knew the true meaning. How many times did Jesus chastise them? There are only a few on this forum that are truly enlightened to speak, the rest of you are false prophets because you have no idea regarding the true ways of the Kingdom. You post this, spread that, and little you know it is deceit and deception you spread.

As in my other post concerning Sack Cloth and the disciples, I have come to teach and Shepard. I come to open eyes.

 Quoting: ParadigmShift



Wow........such hate and false judgement against others and elevating yourself. Where is the love and humility in your post brother?

The pharisees were a prime example of hate and false judgement, and self righteousness. They too thought only they were qualified, but in fact Jesus told them they were nothing but empty shells.

Have a good day.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


^^Lisa said it best.

We're all tested spiritually & no one holds true 100% of the time, no even you, your highness
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33597030


And might you read my reply to Lisa.
But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith Yahweh, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their Elohim, and they shall be my people.
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Good morning Brothers and Sisters


This message is for every member on this forum, we are all God's children. It is particularly intended for every poster that likes to quote scriptures, post YouTube videos, and spread messages without real meaning. Everyone of you are half baked Christians with the spiritual equivalency of invalids. Just as the supposed teachers in the time of Jesus, the Pharisees pushed doctrine and never knew the true meaning. How many times did Jesus chastise them? There are only a few on this forum that are truly enlightened to speak, the rest of you are false prophets because you have no idea regarding the true ways of the Kingdom. You post this, spread that, and little you know it is deceit and deception you spread.

As in my other post concerning Sack Cloth and the disciples, I have come to teach and Shepard. I come to open eyes. I deserve nothing, for God deserves it all, and might the wisdom he gave me bring him Glory.

Now here is my second lesson. Jesus told Peter to build his house upon this rock. How does this relate to the parable of the sower? Many of you will look and not study, but if you do study you might just find out how mislead and spiritually bankrupt you really are.

Might the grace of God befall all of you, might it be his light that guides and directs you towards the narrow path. I owe everything to God, and the only things he wants in return is your full love and obedience. How can we love him if we do not know him? You have one father, and he loves you. Ask for the knowledge, ask that you might drink from the waters of wisdom, and guess what he will allow you to.

Again, Jesus's words to Peter relates directly with the Parable of the Sower.
 Quoting: ParadigmShift


I think many beleivers today are not intentionally or mischievously doing deliberate harm but many are not willing to walk down that road of humility. in trusting the word and not what the institutions have brain washed most to believe.We are to pass by the traditions of men and not pass this on to the younger as doctrines from heaven

It is everyone responsibility to read study and use theri gifts accordingly in harmony with the truth of God.That will call for sacrifice of the old things learned putting it all down and obeyng what christ established
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
:knoup:
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It's really funny neither of you have mentioned how one "understands" the Gospel (Gospel of the Kingdom of God/heaven). There is only one way, through discernment granted by God/Son through the Holy Spirit of God. All other "gibberish" is just that nonsense of man. God said it so well when He said "the wisdom of man is foolishness to Me..."!
 Quoting: anonymous 33746375


True and the way to the holy spirit is by obedience to his laws statutes and commands.
THE HOLY SPIRIT IS GIVEN UNTO THOSE WHO OBEY acts 5:32:hf:
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


It is from love that we are obedient. When we obey we are rewarded. We cannot 'untap' the true power of the spirit when we are in direct violation of the law. Only governments, and churches reward criminals. God does not, if they don't come clean, He punishes them.
 Quoting: ParadigmShift


This is true..
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
:knoup:
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We are currently in the "time of the end..." and only those who know Him now will be "His at His coming in the clouds..." The world is predominately blind to the things of God, the Lord said so and that is why there is a time order with the resurrection(s).
 Quoting: anonymous 33746375


True to that fact, time is of the essence.

Hi btw pleased to meet you
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Good morning Brothers and Sisters


This message is for every member on this forum, we are all God's children. It is particularly intended for every poster that likes to quote scriptures, post YouTube videos, and spread messages without real meaning. Everyone of you are half baked Christians with the spiritual equivalency of invalids. Just as the supposed teachers in the time of Jesus, the Pharisees pushed doctrine and never knew the true meaning. How many times did Jesus chastise them? There are only a few on this forum that are truly enlightened to speak, the rest of you are false prophets because you have no idea regarding the true ways of the Kingdom. You post this, spread that, and little you know it is deceit and deception you spread.

As in my other post concerning Sack Cloth and the disciples, I have come to teach and Shepard. I come to open eyes. I deserve nothing, for God deserves it all, and might the wisdom he gave me bring him Glory.

Now here is my second lesson. Jesus told Peter to build his house upon this rock. How does this relate to the parable of the sower? Many of you will look and not study, but if you do study you might just find out how mislead and spiritually bankrupt you really are.

Might the grace of God befall all of you, might it be his light that guides and directs you towards the narrow path. I owe everything to God, and the only things he wants in return is your full love and obedience. How can we love him if we do not know him? You have one father, and he loves you. Ask for the knowledge, ask that you might drink from the waters of wisdom, and guess what he will allow you to.

Again, Jesus's words to Peter relates directly with the Parable of the Sower.
 Quoting: ParadigmShift


I think many beleivers today are not intentionally or mischievously doing deliberate harm but many are not willing to walk down that road of humility. in trusting the word and not what the institutions have brain washed most to believe.We are to pass by the traditions of men and not pass this on to the younger as doctrines from heaven

It is everyone responsibility to read study and use theri gifts accordingly in harmony with the truth of God.That will call for sacrifice of the old things learned putting it all down and obeyng what christ established
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar



Deceit has been 'breed' within us, for so many generations. In fact, once a lie, is now accepted as a truth. Well it has to be the truth because my minister told me.
But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith Yahweh, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their Elohim, and they shall be my people.
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We are currently in the "time of the end..." and only those who know Him now will be "His at His coming in the clouds..." The world is predominately blind to the things of God, the Lord said so and that is why there is a time order with the resurrection(s).
 Quoting: anonymous 33746375


True to that fact, time is of the essence.

Hi btw pleased to meet you
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It's a pleasure to meet you. Time in these latter days is of the essence

hf
But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith Yahweh, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their Elohim, and they shall be my people.
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1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
:knoup:
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Absolutely WRONG, all of mankind is created by The Lord, however ALL are NOT children of God. Jesus Himself said to the false religious hypocrites "ye are as your' father the devil...!} He also said "I will have those who call themselves Jews and are NOT come and bow before you and acknowledge I have loved you..." This is why there are several resurrections one to eternal life one to eternal damnation. The true "children of God" will be in the first resurrection, others (some will be in the second.)
 Quoting: anonymous 33746375




You reference children based on works. Can you not see the fault. We are all children of God based on his love for all of us and his creation.

Now if you mention works and children of god there is a distinction.
 Quoting: ParadigmShift


"For God so loved the world......"


True.....God had a love for His Creation.......as a whole, single, large unit.......and thus sent His Son. This was His great gift of love.


However.......this is very much distinct from how He views individuals.


For those individuals who continue in rebellion against Him......they are currently His enemies (Col 1:21 James 4:4)

And not only are they God's enemies....

God is angry with them every day.
God hates them.
God abhors them.

See Psalm 5: 4-6
Psalm 7: 11
Psalm 11: 5


You might love your car.......but you hate and are angry with a tire when it goes flat.


Those that give their lives to Christ are immediately born again of the Spirit.....indwelt by the Spirit......declared "not guily" based on what Christ did..... clothed in His righteousness and seen as white by the Father.


They immediately go from being an enemy of God to being a child of God and co-heir with Christ.
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Absolutely WRONG, all of mankind is created by The Lord, however ALL are NOT children of God. Jesus Himself said to the false religious hypocrites "ye are as your' father the devil...!} He also said "I will have those who call themselves Jews and are NOT come and bow before you and acknowledge I have loved you..." This is why there are several resurrections one to eternal life one to eternal damnation. The true "children of God" will be in the first resurrection, others (some will be in the second.)
 Quoting: anonymous 33746375




You reference children based on works. Can you not see the fault. We are all children of God based on his love for all of us and his creation.

Now if you mention works and children of god there is a distinction.
 Quoting: ParadigmShift


"For God so loved the world......"


True.....God had a love for His Creation.......as a whole, single, large unit.......and thus sent His Son. This was His great gift of love.


However.......this is very much distinct from how He views individuals.


For those individuals who continue in rebellion against Him......they are currently His enemies (Col 1:21 James 4:4)

And not only are they God's enemies....

God is angry with them every day.
God hates them.
God abhors them.

See Psalm 5: 4-6
Psalm 7: 11
Psalm 11: 5


You might love your car.......but you hate and are angry with a tire when it goes flat.


Those that give their lives to Christ are immediately born again of the Spirit.....indwelt by the Spirit......declared "not guily" based on what Christ did..... clothed in His righteousness and seen as white by the Father.


They immediately go from being an enemy of God to being a child of God and co-heir with Christ.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32478829


Hate is not from the kingdom only justice. You say hate and I say get behind me Satan, your ways are foolish. My father as yours, hates not, he only loves. Hate only comes from man, an emotion brought forth from Satan. Don't ask me to see, I ask you to see. And let the wisdom of my father be impressed on you.
But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith Yahweh, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their Elohim, and they shall be my people.
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Those that give their lives to Christ are immediately born again of the Spirit.....indwelt by the Spirit......declared "not guily" based on what Christ did..... clothed in His righteousness and seen as white by the Father.

They immediately go from being an enemy of God to being a child of God and co-heir with Christ.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32478829


Those are the kind of lies that Christians have paid their religious 'authorities' billions of dollars to tell them, sure.

And they are willing to pay that money because the lies are so intensely pleasurable.

Problem is they contradict the Teaching of Jesus.

But the Christians, of course, don't care about that.

All they care about is their own pleasure.

Michael
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Those that give their lives to Christ are immediately born again of the Spirit.....indwelt by the Spirit......declared "not guily" based on what Christ did..... clothed in His righteousness and seen as white by the Father.

They immediately go from being an enemy of God to being a child of God and co-heir with Christ.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32478829


Those are the kind of lies that Christians have paid their religious 'authorities' billions of dollars to tell them, sure.

And they are willing to pay that money because the lies are so intensely pleasurable.

Problem is they contradict the Teaching of Jesus.

But the Christians, of course, don't care about that.

All they care about is their own pleasure.

Michael
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Those that give their lives to Christ are immediately born again of the Spirit.....indwelt by the Spirit......declared "not guily" based on what Christ did..... clothed in His righteousness and seen as white by the Father.

They immediately go from being an enemy of God to being a child of God and co-heir with Christ.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32478829


Those are the kind of lies that Christians have paid their religious 'authorities' billions of dollars to tell them, sure.

And they are willing to pay that money because the lies are so intensely pleasurable.

Problem is they contradict the Teaching of Jesus.

But the Christians, of course, don't care about that.

All they care about is their own pleasure.

Michael
 Quoting: 4Q529



Michael

Your wisdom is good. I need not tell you that. You have drank from the fountain.
But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith Yahweh, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their Elohim, and they shall be my people.
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"Hate is not from the kingdom only justice. You say hate and I say get behind me Satan, your ways are foolish. My father as yours, hates not, he only loves. Hate only comes from man, an emotion brought forth from Satan. Don't ask me to see, I ask you to see. And let the wisdom of my father be impressed on you."


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Then you are dismissing Scriptures that are not appealing to you.

You cannot pick and choose in this way.


"Whoever therefore wants to be a friend of the world makes himself and enemy of God." (James 4:4)


Paul to Christians:

"And you, who once were alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now He has reconciled......" (Col 1:21)


Do you think Christ will melt the armies standing against Him because they are His friends? (Rev 19)(Zech 14)


"For You are not a God who takes pleasure in wickedness, nor shall evil dwell with You. The boastful shall not stand in Your sight. You HATE all workers of iniquity. You shall destroy those who speak falsehood; The Lord ABHORS the bloodthirsty and deceitful man." (Ps 5: 4-6)


"God is a just judge, and God is ANGRY with the wicked every day." (Ps 7: 11)


"The Lord tests the righteous, but the wicked and the one who loves violence His soul hates." (Ps 11: 5)



"And this shall be the plague with which the Lord will strike all the people who fought against Jerusalem:

Their flesh shall dissolve while they stand on their feet, their eyes shall dissolve in their sockets, and their tongues shall dissolve in their mouths." (Zech 14: 12)



"And the rest were killed with the sword which proceeded from the mouth of Him who sat on the horse. And all the birds were filled with their flesh." (Rev 19: 21)


It is true the God directs His children to love everyone......including our enemies.

However with God......"Vengeance is Mine, says the Lord."
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Those that give their lives to Christ are immediately born again of the Spirit.....indwelt by the Spirit......declared "not guily" based on what Christ did..... clothed in His righteousness and seen as white by the Father.

They immediately go from being an enemy of God to being a child of God and co-heir with Christ.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32478829


Those are the kind of lies that Christians have paid their religious 'authorities' billions of dollars to tell them, sure.

And they are willing to pay that money because the lies are so intensely pleasurable.

Problem is they contradict the Teaching of Jesus.

But the Christians, of course, don't care about that.

All they care about is their own pleasure.

Michael
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A million of your good works will not even cancel out one single sin.
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"Hate is not from the kingdom only justice. You say hate and I say get behind me Satan, your ways are foolish. My father as yours, hates not, he only loves. Hate only comes from man, an emotion brought forth from Satan. Don't ask me to see, I ask you to see. And let the wisdom of my father be impressed on you."


*******************************************


Then you are dismissing Scriptures that are not appealing to you.

You cannot pick and choose in this way.


"Whoever therefore wants to be a friend of the world makes himself and enemy of God." (James 4:4)


Paul to Christians:

"And you, who once were alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now He has reconciled......" (Col 1:21)


Do you think Christ will melt the armies standing against Him because they are His friends? (Rev 19)(Zech 14)


"For You are not a God who takes pleasure in wickedness, nor shall evil dwell with You. The boastful shall not stand in Your sight. You HATE all workers of iniquity. You shall destroy those who speak falsehood; The Lord ABHORS the bloodthirsty and deceitful man." (Ps 5: 4-6)


"God is a just judge, and God is ANGRY with the wicked every day." (Ps 7: 11)


"The Lord tests the righteous, but the wicked and the one who loves violence His soul hates." (Ps 11: 5)



"And this shall be the plague with which the Lord will strike all the people who fought against Jerusalem:

Their flesh shall dissolve while they stand on their feet, their eyes shall dissolve in their sockets, and their tongues shall dissolve in their mouths." (Zech 14: 12)



"And the rest were killed with the sword which proceeded from the mouth of Him who sat on the horse. And all the birds were filled with their flesh." (Rev 19: 21)


It is true the God directs His children to love everyone......including our enemies.

However with God......"Vengeance is Mine, says the Lord."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32478829


In Psalms what soul do you think that speaks of? It refers to our soul. And you call Gods justice hate? Open your eyes to the real ways. Bring your quotes that I might open up your eyes.
But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith Yahweh, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their Elohim, and they shall be my people.
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"Hate is not from the kingdom only justice. You say hate and I say get behind me Satan, your ways are foolish. My father as yours, hates not, he only loves. Hate only comes from man, an emotion brought forth from Satan. Don't ask me to see, I ask you to see. And let the wisdom of my father be impressed on you."


*******************************************


Then you are dismissing Scriptures that are not appealing to you.

You cannot pick and choose in this way.


"Whoever therefore wants to be a friend of the world makes himself and enemy of God." (James 4:4)


Paul to Christians:

"And you, who once were alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now He has reconciled......" (Col 1:21)


Do you think Christ will melt the armies standing against Him because they are His friends? (Rev 19)(Zech 14)


"For You are not a God who takes pleasure in wickedness, nor shall evil dwell with You. The boastful shall not stand in Your sight. You HATE all workers of iniquity. You shall destroy those who speak falsehood; The Lord ABHORS the bloodthirsty and deceitful man." (Ps 5: 4-6)


"God is a just judge, and God is ANGRY with the wicked every day." (Ps 7: 11)


"The Lord tests the righteous, but the wicked and the one who loves violence His soul hates." (Ps 11: 5)



"And this shall be the plague with which the Lord will strike all the people who fought against Jerusalem:

Their flesh shall dissolve while they stand on their feet, their eyes shall dissolve in their sockets, and their tongues shall dissolve in their mouths." (Zech 14: 12)



"And the rest were killed with the sword which proceeded from the mouth of Him who sat on the horse. And all the birds were filled with their flesh." (Rev 19: 21)


It is true the God directs His children to love everyone......including our enemies.

However with God......"Vengeance is Mine, says the Lord."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32478829


This brings me to concluded on the only unpardonable sin. Think about it might you see. Do not quote scriptures unless you UNDERSTAND.
But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith Yahweh, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their Elohim, and they shall be my people.
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not a drop of blood in the OP's reply and not a verse quoted.

you lack understanding and preach another gospel which is not another therefore having no righteousness to be justified to God by Christ

know the wrath of God is revealed, repent or change your mind OP and trust in the blood and in Jesus Romans ch. 1-4 kjv
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The Scriptures above clearly show Paul reminded early Christians that they were once Enemies of God......but had been reconciled to God through the blood of Christ and their faith in Him.



True when you are born you are a wonderful creation of God.


However when you are old enough to read and understand God's laws........and then go out and deliberately break one......you die spiritually and are cut of from God.


God is holy. That first sin kills you......and cuts you off from God. Hence Christ told Nicodemus, "Marvel not, you must be born again."


It also took only one sin to ruin Paradise.....Adam and Eve choosing to listen to satan and eat the fruit.


Thereafter this led to the whole world being ruined by sin......which continues to be the case even to this day.


One single sin..............God is Holy.
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The Scriptures above clearly show Paul reminded early Christians that they were once Enemies of God......but had been reconciled to God through the blood of Christ and their faith in Him.



True when you are born you are a wonderful creation of God.


However when you are old enough to read and understand God's laws........and then go out and deliberately break one......you die spiritually and are cut of from God.


God is holy. That first sin kills you......and cuts you off from God. Hence Christ told Nicodemus, "Marvel not, you must be born again."


It also took only one sin to ruin Paradise.....Adam and Eve choosing to listen to satan and eat the fruit.


Thereafter this led to the whole world being ruined by sin......which continues to be the case even to this day.


One single sin..............God is Holy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32478829


And why were they enemies of God? They did not love him and and were not obedient to Him. When you break a commandment the relationship is severed, but that does not mean he doesn't love you. He might dislike what you are doing, but he does not hate you. If he hated you he would not forgive you.
But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith Yahweh, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their Elohim, and they shall be my people.

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