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Half Baked Christians, Doctrine, Meaning, and Wisdom

 
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Christ to Unbelievers:


"If God were your Father, you would love Me......


"You are of your father the devil......




See John 8: 42-47
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Good morning Brothers and Sisters


This message is for every member on this forum, we are all God's children. It is particularly intended for every poster that likes to quote scriptures, post YouTube videos, and spread messages without real meaning. Everyone of you are half baked Christians with the spiritual equivalency of invalids. Just as the supposed teachers in the time of Jesus, the Pharisees pushed doctrine and never knew the true meaning. How many times did Jesus chastise them? There are only a few on this forum that are truly enlightened to speak, the rest of you are false prophets because you have no idea regarding the true ways of the Kingdom. You post this, spread that, and little you know it is deceit and deception you spread.

As in my other post concerning Sack Cloth and the disciples, I have come to teach and Shepard. I come to open eyes. I deserve nothing, for God deserves it all, and might the wisdom he gave me bring him Glory.

Now here is my second lesson. Jesus told Peter to build his house upon this rock. How does this relate to the parable of the sower? Many of you will look and not study, but if you do study you might just find out how mislead and spiritually bankrupt you really are.

Might the grace of God befall all of you
, might it be his light that guides and directs you towards the narrow path. I owe everything to God, and the only things he wants in return is your full love and obedience. How can we love him if we do not know him? You have one father, and he loves you. Ask for the knowledge, ask that you might drink from the waters of wisdom, and guess what he will allow you to.

Again, Jesus's words to Peter relates directly with the Parable of the Sower.
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You sound so righteous OP. You're judgment, we're all worthless according to you. Come on, humility is a virtue.
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"But you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you.

"And if Christ is in you, the body is dead because of sin, but the Spirit is life.....

"But if the Spirit of Him who raised Jesus from the dead DWELLS IN YOU, He who raised Christ from the dead will also give live to your mortal bodies through His Spirit who dwells in you.

"The Spirit Himself bears witness with our spirit that we are children of God...."


From Romans Chp 8
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Those that give their lives to Christ are immediately born again of the Spirit.....indwelt by the Spirit......declared "not guily" based on what Christ did..... clothed in His righteousness and seen as white by the Father.

They immediately go from being an enemy of God to being a child of God and co-heir with Christ.
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Those are the kind of lies that Christians have paid their religious 'authorities' billions of dollars to tell them, sure.

And they are willing to pay that money because the lies are so intensely pleasurable.

Problem is they contradict the Teaching of Jesus.

But the Christians, of course, don't care about that.

All they care about is their own pleasure.

Michael
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So are you saying that Jesus taught something different than people who confess he is lord will be saved?
Thanks in advance.
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Those that give their lives to Christ are immediately born again of the Spirit.....indwelt by the Spirit......declared "not guily" based on what Christ did..... clothed in His righteousness and seen as white by the Father.

They immediately go from being an enemy of God to being a child of God and co-heir with Christ.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32478829


Those are the kind of lies that Christians have paid their religious 'authorities' billions of dollars to tell them, sure.

And they are willing to pay that money because the lies are so intensely pleasurable.

Problem is they contradict the Teaching of Jesus.

But the Christians, of course, don't care about that.

All they care about is their own pleasure.

Michael
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So are you saying that Jesus taught something different than people who confess he is lord will be saved?
Thanks in advance.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22439663


Your belief and your works will save you. Your love and obedience.
But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith Yahweh, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their Elohim, and they shall be my people.
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Those that give their lives to Christ are immediately born again of the Spirit.....indwelt by the Spirit......declared "not guily" based on what Christ did..... clothed in His righteousness and seen as white by the Father.

They immediately go from being an enemy of God to being a child of God and co-heir with Christ.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32478829


Those are the kind of lies that Christians have paid their religious 'authorities' billions of dollars to tell them, sure.

And they are willing to pay that money because the lies are so intensely pleasurable.

Problem is they contradict the Teaching of Jesus.

But the Christians, of course, don't care about that.

All they care about is their own pleasure.

Michael
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So are you saying that Jesus taught something different than people who confess he is lord will be saved?
Thanks in advance.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22439663


Your belief and your works will save you. Your love and obedience.
 Quoting: ParadigmShift


Your belief that Jesus died and rose again or in God the father? Or both?
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not a drop of blood in the OP's reply and not a verse quoted.

you lack understanding and preach another gospel which is not another therefore having no righteousness to be justified to God by Christ

know the wrath of God is revealed, repent or change your mind OP and trust in the blood and in Jesus Romans ch. 1-4 kjv
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Is the parable of the sower not in the Gospel of Matthew? When he, Jesus, tells his disciple Peter to build his church on this rock, I believe that is just a few verses from the parable of the sower.
But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith Yahweh, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their Elohim, and they shall be my people.
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Those are the kind of lies that Christians have paid their religious 'authorities' billions of dollars to tell them, sure.

And they are willing to pay that money because the lies are so intensely pleasurable.

Problem is they contradict the Teaching of Jesus.

But the Christians, of course, don't care about that.

All they care about is their own pleasure.

Michael
 Quoting: 4Q529


So are you saying that Jesus taught something different than people who confess he is lord will be saved?
Thanks in advance.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22439663


Your belief and your works will save you. Your love and obedience.
 Quoting: ParadigmShift


Your belief that Jesus died and rose again or in God the father? Or both?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22439663


Jesus was the living God. As from the Gospel of Matthew in Aramaic,Pershittant.

Jesus died, was removed for three days, and His Father, God brought him into the kingdom

When we accept Christ, we become HIS bride. Not the church, everyone says he is coming back for his bride the church and they are wrong. We are the bride of Christ, and this goes backs to the teachings of marriage in the Old Testament.

And yes I believe in God and the Son. He opens the door, he is the way.
But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith Yahweh, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their Elohim, and they shall be my people.
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OP I hope you are thinking out loud trying to organize your thoughts to come to a better understanding.

Scripture speaks quite plainly to the believer. The message of the Gospel is not some hidden secret for only a few to understand. Everyone who has an ear bent toward faith in Jesus Christ can plainly understand the gospel. God is not trying to trick us. He made His plan quite clear.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18738533


Jesus tells Peter to build his church upon this rock. He knew man would inherit the church, and how corrupt men are. This relates back to the sower, because at this time he, Jesus, is the seed and his seed was thrown out to the rocks. That is where the seed was grown in the rocks. The church at that point could go either way, dependent on the direction of man. And we all know the direction the Church took.
 Quoting: ParadigmShift


Who did Jesus create THE Church for if it wasn't for men Paradigm?

Our Lord changed Simon's name knowing He would make him the
"rock" on which he would build His Church. Peter means "rock."

Peter was crucified upside down! Oh, what love for Our Lord.

You are wrong about the Church, we are all sinners, every
person on the earth but Jesus made a promise in the same
"rock" verse, Matt 16:18. He told Peter, Satan will not overcome My Church and the evil one hasn't prevailed.

You make Our Lord a liar, saying the Church is in error
on Christ's teachings. She isn't and never will be.

Sure makes the evil one angry, watch what happens very soon
but don't worry, Our Lord's promise. And...

Our Lord's prayer to the Father is that we all believe the
same, that we are one, it's not far off to being fulfilled.



God bless you.
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"There is no God but myself... Knowing this, who dares worship the false Gods of the Koran and Bible?" - Satan, from the Qu'ret Al-Yezid

"I lead to the straight path without a revealed book." Satan, from the Al-Jilwah

"Those who oppose me I afflict with disease..." Satan, from the Al-Jilwah (referring to the J e w s)

GOOGLE SATAN + JOY TO LEARN MORE AND CONTACT SATAN/ENKI AS URL IS BANNED

[link to www.google.com (secure)]

1ST RESULT ABOVE
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OP I hope you are thinking out loud trying to organize your thoughts to come to a better understanding.

Scripture speaks quite plainly to the believer. The message of the Gospel is not some hidden secret for only a few to understand. Everyone who has an ear bent toward faith in Jesus Christ can plainly understand the gospel. God is not trying to trick us. He made His plan quite clear.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18738533


Jesus tells Peter to build his church upon this rock. He knew man would inherit the church, and how corrupt men are. This relates back to the sower, because at this time he, Jesus, is the seed and his seed was thrown out to the rocks. That is where the seed was grown in the rocks. The church at that point could go either way, dependent on the direction of man. And we all know the direction the Church took.
 Quoting: ParadigmShift


Who did Jesus create THE Church for if it wasn't for men Paradigm?

Our Lord changed Simon's name knowing He would make him the
"rock" on which he would build His Church. Peter means "rock."

Peter was crucified upside down! Oh, what love for Our Lord.

You are wrong about the Church, we are all sinners, every
person on the earth but Jesus made a promise in the same
"rock" verse, Matt 16:18. He told Peter, Satan will not overcome My Church and the evil one hasn't prevailed.

You make Our Lord a liar, saying the Church is in error
on Christ's teachings. She isn't and never will be.

Sure makes the evil one angry, watch what happens very soon
but don't worry, Our Lord's promise. And...

Our Lord's prayer to the Father is that we all believe the
same, that we are one, it's not far off to being fulfilled.



God bless you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33909918


Let me ask you do you know the history of your church? Do you know where all western Christianity was born? Do you know what Jesus meant when he said house will divide upon house?

Do you think he died for US for it only to become limited to members of an exclusive club?

And do you not think there is any church on Earth, that if Jesus were here today that he wouldn't rip the foundations out from under them, and cast their stones aside?
But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith Yahweh, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their Elohim, and they shall be my people.
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OP I hope you are thinking out loud trying to organize your thoughts to come to a better understanding.

Scripture speaks quite plainly to the believer. The message of the Gospel is not some hidden secret for only a few to understand. Everyone who has an ear bent toward faith in Jesus Christ can plainly understand the gospel. God is not trying to trick us. He made His plan quite clear.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18738533


Jesus tells Peter to build his church upon this rock. He knew man would inherit the church, and how corrupt men are. This relates back to the sower, because at this time he, Jesus, is the seed and his seed was thrown out to the rocks. That is where the seed was grown in the rocks. The church at that point could go either way, dependent on the direction of man. And we all know the direction the Church took.
 Quoting: ParadigmShift


Who did Jesus create THE Church for if it wasn't for men Paradigm?

Our Lord changed Simon's name knowing He would make him the
"rock" on which he would build His Church. Peter means "rock."

Peter was crucified upside down! Oh, what love for Our Lord.

You are wrong about the Church, we are all sinners, every
person on the earth but Jesus made a promise in the same
"rock" verse, Matt 16:18. He told Peter, Satan will not overcome My Church and the evil one hasn't prevailed.

You make Our Lord a liar, saying the Church is in error
on Christ's teachings. She isn't and never will be.

Sure makes the evil one angry, watch what happens very soon
but don't worry, Our Lord's promise. And...

Our Lord's prayer to the Father is that we all believe the
same, that we are one, it's not far off to being fulfilled.



God bless you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33909918


Let me ask you do you know the history of your church? Do you know where all western Christianity was born? Do you know what Jesus meant when he said house will divide upon house?

Do you think he died for US for it only to become limited to members of an exclusive club?

And do you not think there is any church on Earth, that if Jesus were here today that he wouldn't rip the foundations out from under them, and cast their stones aside?
 Quoting: ParadigmShift


Oh let me guess he would save the Catholics? That church is a disgrace to the teachings of our savior. Oh the Protestants, our Lutheran? The house therefore have been divided.
But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith Yahweh, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their Elohim, and they shall be my people.
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OP I hope you are thinking out loud trying to organize your thoughts to come to a better understanding.

Scripture speaks quite plainly to the believer. The message of the Gospel is not some hidden secret for only a few to understand. Everyone who has an ear bent toward faith in Jesus Christ can plainly understand the gospel. God is not trying to trick us. He made His plan quite clear.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18738533


Jesus tells Peter to build his church upon this rock. He knew man would inherit the church, and how corrupt men are. This relates back to the sower, because at this time he, Jesus, is the seed and his seed was thrown out to the rocks. That is where the seed was grown in the rocks. The church at that point could go either way, dependent on the direction of man. And we all know the direction the Church took.
 Quoting: ParadigmShift


Who did Jesus create THE Church for if it wasn't for men Paradigm?

Our Lord changed Simon's name knowing He would make him the
"rock" on which he would build His Church. Peter means "rock."

Peter was crucified upside down! Oh, what love for Our Lord.

You are wrong about the Church, we are all sinners, every
person on the earth but Jesus made a promise in the same
"rock" verse, Matt 16:18. He told Peter, Satan will not overcome My Church and the evil one hasn't prevailed.

You make Our Lord a liar, saying the Church is in error
on Christ's teachings. She isn't and never will be.

Sure makes the evil one angry, watch what happens very soon
but don't worry, Our Lord's promise. And...

Our Lord's prayer to the Father is that we all believe the
same, that we are one, it's not far off to being fulfilled.



God bless you.
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And the church he refers to is His seed, His words, HIS teachings. Think for once outside the box.

Thank you for blessing me in God names, I forgot to tell you that.

God bless you.

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But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith Yahweh, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their Elohim, and they shall be my people.
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OP I hope you are thinking out loud trying to organize your thoughts to come to a better understanding.

Scripture speaks quite plainly to the believer. The message of the Gospel is not some hidden secret for only a few to understand. Everyone who has an ear bent toward faith in Jesus Christ can plainly understand the gospel. God is not trying to trick us. He made His plan quite clear.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18738533


Jesus tells Peter to build his church upon this rock. He knew man would inherit the church, and how corrupt men are. This relates back to the sower, because at this time he, Jesus, is the seed and his seed was thrown out to the rocks. That is where the seed was grown in the rocks. The church at that point could go either way, dependent on the direction of man. And we all know the direction the Church took.
 Quoting: ParadigmShift


Who did Jesus create THE Church for if it wasn't for men Paradigm?

Our Lord changed Simon's name knowing He would make him the
"rock" on which he would build His Church. Peter means "rock."

Peter was crucified upside down! Oh, what love for Our Lord.

You are wrong about the Church, we are all sinners, every
person on the earth but Jesus made a promise in the same
"rock" verse, Matt 16:18. He told Peter, Satan will not overcome My Church and the evil one hasn't prevailed.

You make Our Lord a liar, saying the Church is in error
on Christ's teachings. She isn't and never will be.

Sure makes the evil one angry, watch what happens very soon
but don't worry, Our Lord's promise. And...

Our Lord's prayer to the Father is that we all believe the
same, that we are one, it's not far off to being fulfilled.



God bless you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33909918


Let me ask you do you know the history of your church? Do you know where all western Christianity was born? Do you know what Jesus meant when he said house will divide upon house?

Do you think he died for US for it only to become limited to members of an exclusive club?

And do you not think there is any church on Earth, that if Jesus were here today that he wouldn't rip the foundations out from under them, and cast their stones aside?
 Quoting: ParadigmShift


I walked away from the church because I realized that if Jesus was here he would destroy the churches that claim to do good works in his name.
When I decided to live the way Jesus showed us by his fruits I was told that I was crazy and that wasn't what he was saying.
I came to believe that the "beast" had already perverted his message and given people an easy way out. Forgiveness with belief in Jesus blood.
I really am lost at this point but I do know what is false.
Anyway, thanks for listening. Most of the "Christians" here don't seem to walk the walk.
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Jesus tells Peter to build his church upon this rock. He knew man would inherit the church, and how corrupt men are. This relates back to the sower, because at this time he, Jesus, is the seed and his seed was thrown out to the rocks. That is where the seed was grown in the rocks. The church at that point could go either way, dependent on the direction of man. And we all know the direction the Church took.
 Quoting: ParadigmShift


Who did Jesus create THE Church for if it wasn't for men Paradigm?

Our Lord changed Simon's name knowing He would make him the
"rock" on which he would build His Church. Peter means "rock."

Peter was crucified upside down! Oh, what love for Our Lord.

You are wrong about the Church, we are all sinners, every
person on the earth but Jesus made a promise in the same
"rock" verse, Matt 16:18. He told Peter, Satan will not overcome My Church and the evil one hasn't prevailed.

You make Our Lord a liar, saying the Church is in error
on Christ's teachings. She isn't and never will be.

Sure makes the evil one angry, watch what happens very soon
but don't worry, Our Lord's promise. And...

Our Lord's prayer to the Father is that we all believe the
same, that we are one, it's not far off to being fulfilled.



God bless you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33909918


Let me ask you do you know the history of your church? Do you know where all western Christianity was born? Do you know what Jesus meant when he said house will divide upon house?

Do you think he died for US for it only to become limited to members of an exclusive club?

And do you not think there is any church on Earth, that if Jesus were here today that he wouldn't rip the foundations out from under them, and cast their stones aside?
 Quoting: ParadigmShift


I walked away from the church because I realized that if Jesus was here he would destroy the churches that claim to do good works in his name.
When I decided to live the way Jesus showed us by his fruits I was told that I was crazy and that wasn't what he was saying.
I came to believe that the "beast" had already perverted his message and given people an easy way out. Forgiveness with belief in Jesus blood.
I really am lost at this point but I do know what is false.
Anyway, thanks for listening. Most of the "Christians" here don't seem to walk the walk.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22439663


I know just how you feel. You must bring your transgressions before God, I do this everyday because I am a man, and repent. You must acknowledge that he sent his Son for all of us. Start your relationship with prayer, thank him, tell him above all things you will Love him. Tell him how grateful you are. You might not notice anything soon, but immerse yourself in Him,

He will and does love you. Let his love fill you up. Read scriptures and have faith. You did the best thing you could ever do, and this walk away from the slave pit of modern churches. That is the beauty of the Kingdom. God wants to share everything with you. Read the gospels and start modeling your life after Jesus.

Pray, repent, and ask God for wisdom. Trust me you will find him if you want to. Don't listen to those that wish to oppress. God wants us to have a personal relationship with him, and not a universal one.

Do not despair you are so loved. Believe me , once you have felt His love you will never turn back. Any good relationship requires time and devotion. They don't say he is our father in Heaven for no reason. Like any good father he wants to teach you. That is what loving dads do best. They teach their children. I will pray for you, and offer fragrance to The Lord of Spirits on your behalf tomorrow.
But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith Yahweh, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their Elohim, and they shall be my people.
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Jesus tells Peter to build his church upon this rock. He knew man would inherit the church, and how corrupt men are. This relates back to the sower, because at this time he, Jesus, is the seed and his seed was thrown out to the rocks. That is where the seed was grown in the rocks. The church at that point could go either way, dependent on the direction of man. And we all know the direction the Church took.
 Quoting: ParadigmShift


Who did Jesus create THE Church for if it wasn't for men Paradigm?

Our Lord changed Simon's name knowing He would make him the
"rock" on which he would build His Church. Peter means "rock."

Peter was crucified upside down! Oh, what love for Our Lord.

You are wrong about the Church, we are all sinners, every
person on the earth but Jesus made a promise in the same
"rock" verse, Matt 16:18. He told Peter, Satan will not overcome My Church and the evil one hasn't prevailed.

You make Our Lord a liar, saying the Church is in error
on Christ's teachings. She isn't and never will be.

Sure makes the evil one angry, watch what happens very soon
but don't worry, Our Lord's promise. And...

Our Lord's prayer to the Father is that we all believe the
same, that we are one, it's not far off to being fulfilled.



God bless you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33909918


Let me ask you do you know the history of your church? Do you know where all western Christianity was born? Do you know what Jesus meant when he said house will divide upon house?

Do you think he died for US for it only to become limited to members of an exclusive club?

And do you not think there is any church on Earth, that if Jesus were here today that he wouldn't rip the foundations out from under them, and cast their stones aside?
 Quoting: ParadigmShift


I walked away from the church because I realized that if Jesus was here he would destroy the churches that claim to do good works in his name.
When I decided to live the way Jesus showed us by his fruits I was told that I was crazy and that wasn't what he was saying.
I came to believe that the "beast" had already perverted his message and given people an easy way out. Forgiveness with belief in Jesus blood.
I really am lost at this point but I do know what is false.
Anyway, thanks for listening. Most of the "Christians" here don't seem to walk the walk.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22439663


Let me add your assessment of satan corrupting the church is true. This happened not many generations after the disciples were gone. You have done that which is right and taken it upon yourself to seek salvation and I commend you. If you need any spiritual guidance and encouragement there are many that are willing to help.

Your father in Heaven is the best teacher. Ask him and he will guide you.
But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith Yahweh, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their Elohim, and they shall be my people.
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Who did Jesus create THE Church for if it wasn't for men Paradigm?

Our Lord changed Simon's name knowing He would make him the
"rock" on which he would build His Church. Peter means "rock."

Peter was crucified upside down! Oh, what love for Our Lord.

You are wrong about the Church, we are all sinners, every
person on the earth but Jesus made a promise in the same
"rock" verse, Matt 16:18. He told Peter, Satan will not overcome My Church and the evil one hasn't prevailed.

You make Our Lord a liar, saying the Church is in error
on Christ's teachings. She isn't and never will be.

Sure makes the evil one angry, watch what happens very soon
but don't worry, Our Lord's promise. And...

Our Lord's prayer to the Father is that we all believe the
same, that we are one, it's not far off to being fulfilled.



God bless you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33909918


Let me ask you do you know the history of your church? Do you know where all western Christianity was born? Do you know what Jesus meant when he said house will divide upon house?

Do you think he died for US for it only to become limited to members of an exclusive club?

And do you not think there is any church on Earth, that if Jesus were here today that he wouldn't rip the foundations out from under them, and cast their stones aside?
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I walked away from the church because I realized that if Jesus was here he would destroy the churches that claim to do good works in his name.
When I decided to live the way Jesus showed us by his fruits I was told that I was crazy and that wasn't what he was saying.
I came to believe that the "beast" had already perverted his message and given people an easy way out. Forgiveness with belief in Jesus blood.
I really am lost at this point but I do know what is false.
Anyway, thanks for listening. Most of the "Christians" here don't seem to walk the walk.
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I know just how you feel. You must bring your transgressions before God, I do this everyday because I am a man, and repent. You must acknowledge that he sent his Son for all of us. Start your relationship with prayer, thank him, tell him above all things you will Love him. Tell him how grateful you are. You might not notice anything soon, but immerse yourself in Him,

He will and does love you. Let his love fill you up. Read scriptures and have faith. You did the best thing you could ever do, and this walk away from the slave pit of modern churches. That is the beauty of the Kingdom. God wants to share everything with you. Read the gospels and start modeling your life after Jesus.

Pray, repent, and ask God for wisdom. Trust me you will find him if you want to. Don't listen to those that wish to oppress. God wants us to have a personal relationship with him, and not a universal one.

Do not despair you are so loved. Believe me , once you have felt His love you will never turn back. Any good relationship requires time and devotion. They don't say he is our father in Heaven for no reason. Like any good father he wants to teach you. That is what loving dads do best. They teach their children. I will pray for you, and offer fragrance to The Lord of Spirits on your behalf tomorrow.
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Thank you, your words feel honest, I like that. Anyone can quote a bible verse, you are speaking from experience, and that suggests a real relationship.
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Let me ask you do you know the history of your church? Do you know where all western Christianity was born? Do you know what Jesus meant when he said house will divide upon house?

Do you think he died for US for it only to become limited to members of an exclusive club?

And do you not think there is any church on Earth, that if Jesus were here today that he wouldn't rip the foundations out from under them, and cast their stones aside?
 Quoting: ParadigmShift


I walked away from the church because I realized that if Jesus was here he would destroy the churches that claim to do good works in his name.
When I decided to live the way Jesus showed us by his fruits I was told that I was crazy and that wasn't what he was saying.
I came to believe that the "beast" had already perverted his message and given people an easy way out. Forgiveness with belief in Jesus blood.
I really am lost at this point but I do know what is false.
Anyway, thanks for listening. Most of the "Christians" here don't seem to walk the walk.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22439663


I know just how you feel. You must bring your transgressions before God, I do this everyday because I am a man, and repent. You must acknowledge that he sent his Son for all of us. Start your relationship with prayer, thank him, tell him above all things you will Love him. Tell him how grateful you are. You might not notice anything soon, but immerse yourself in Him,

He will and does love you. Let his love fill you up. Read scriptures and have faith. You did the best thing you could ever do, and this walk away from the slave pit of modern churches. That is the beauty of the Kingdom. God wants to share everything with you. Read the gospels and start modeling your life after Jesus.

Pray, repent, and ask God for wisdom. Trust me you will find him if you want to. Don't listen to those that wish to oppress. God wants us to have a personal relationship with him, and not a universal one.

Do not despair you are so loved. Believe me , once you have felt His love you will never turn back. Any good relationship requires time and devotion. They don't say he is our father in Heaven for no reason. Like any good father he wants to teach you. That is what loving dads do best. They teach their children. I will pray for you, and offer fragrance to The Lord of Spirits on your behalf tomorrow.
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Thank you, your words feel honest, I like that. Anyone can quote a bible verse, you are speaking from experience, and that suggests a real relationship.
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The Pharisees quoted doctrine but didn't understand the meaning. Your welcome. Trust me, it will take time, but if you pursue God with all your heart he will open all your doors and allow you to 'taste' the ecstasy of the Kingdom.

That is why Jesus tells us to knock and it will be opened. Love him, trust him, and remember repent daily even if you haven't transgressed.

I cannot describe how utterly intoxicating the love of our Father is. He fills all voids, and brings a peace that none will ever experience it unless they find it.

The kingdom is right in front of you. Ask it and will be given. Trust me.
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1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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So are you saying that Jesus taught something different than people who confess he is lord will be saved?
Thanks in advance.
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So what, exactly, do you mean by the term "saved"?

Do you mean 'go to heaven for eternity'?

Jesus never taught any such pagan doctrine.

He taught the Doctrine of "resurrection" as a Doctrine of 'Rebirth', a Doctrine which completely eliminates any need for a metaphysical existence of either rewards or punishments.

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Peter was crucified upside down! Oh, what love for Our Lord.

You are wrong about the Church, we are all sinners, every
person on the earth but Jesus made a promise in the same
"rock" verse, Matt 16:18. He told Peter, Satan will not overcome My Church and the evil one hasn't prevailed.

You make Our Lord a liar, saying the Church is in error
on Christ's teachings. She isn't and never will be.
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Peter was crucified upside down as a Prophecy of what "the church" would do to the Teaching of Jesus.

The Roman church exterminated tens of thousands of Albigensians for teaching precisely the same Doctrine that Jesus taught: that the Doctrine of "resurrection" is a Doctrine of 'Rebirth'.

Of course, you don't and won't believe that because "these words [about "the resurrection"] will remain secret and sealed until the time of the End...the wicked will never understand, the wise will understand." (Chapter 12:9...10 of the Book of Daniel)

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Jesus was the living God.
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This is the first step on the path that ultimately led to the Holocaust.

It is accompanied by the demonization of "the Jews" as "Christ-killers guilty of deicide"; which justified all manner of evil over several hundred years of Christian anti-Semitism.

The doctrine of "vicarious atonement" was concocted by the Pharisee-Satanist Paul to shift all of the responsibility for the crucifixion from the Jewish priesthood--for having Jesus murdered for teaching the Doctrine of "resurrection" as a Doctrine of 'Rebirth'--to the Jewish people.

European history demonstrates the consequences of such a Satanic doctrine.

And as Jesus said--ever hear of him?--"By their fruits you will know them."

Michael

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Am I condemed for eternity if Jesus told me he wasnt my savior, but I was the warrior of life?
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Jesus didn't tell you that.

But I wouldn't be surprised if an imposter did.
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Jesus was the living God.
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This is the first step on the path that ultimately led to the Holocaust.

It is accompanied by the demonization of "the Jews" as "Christ-killers guilty of deicide"; which justified all manner of evil over several hundred years of Christian anti-Semitism.

The doctrine of "vicarious atonement" was concocted by the Pharisee-Satanist Paul to shift all of the responsibility for the crucifixion from the Jewish priesthood--for having Jesus murdered for teaching the Doctrine of "resurrection" as a Doctrine of 'Rebirth'--to the Jewish people.

European history demonstrates the consequences of such a Satanic doctrine.

And as Jesus said--ever hear of him?--"By their fruits you will know them."

Michael
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Michael

I will have to look further into this. We all know Paul was a HOMOSEXUAL, thus starting the heinous tradition of homosexual clergy. This is why HOMOSEXUALITY is over looked by Catholics, its a tradition.

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Jesus was the living God.
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This is the first step on the path that ultimately led to the Holocaust.

It is accompanied by the demonization of "the Jews" as "Christ-killers guilty of deicide"; which justified all manner of evil over several hundred years of Christian anti-Semitism.

The doctrine of "vicarious atonement" was concocted by the Pharisee-Satanist Paul to shift all of the responsibility for the crucifixion from the Jewish priesthood--for having Jesus murdered for teaching the Doctrine of "resurrection" as a Doctrine of 'Rebirth'--to the Jewish people.

European history demonstrates the consequences of such a Satanic doctrine.

And as Jesus said--ever hear of him?--"By their fruits you will know them."

Michael
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Michael

I will have to look further into this. We all know Paul was a HOMOSEXUAL, thus starting the heinous tradition of homosexual clergy. This is why HOMOSEXUALITY is over looked by Catholics, its a tradition.
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It's not really that difficult or complicated.

Paul, the Pharisee, originally persecuted the followers of Jesus to the point that he had them killed.

Then, it became clear that the best way of destroying the community who followed the Teaching of Jesus--the purpose of which was to preserve the Jewish priesthood--was to destroy that community from within.

How?

By providing an alternate 'explanation'for the crucifixion.

That it did not express the intensity of the Doctrinal conflict with the Jewish priesthood over the meaning of "the resurrection"

But that it was a "vicarious atonement" for the sins of men.

As a result, the Jewish priesthood simply are not considered as being in any way responsible for the crucifixion, whereas "the Jews" became "Christ-killers".

Were a community who followed the Teaching of Jesus to survive, it would be the same as dozens and hundreds of Jesuses; every one of whom would have to be 'eliminated' if the Jewish priesthood were to survive being responsible for the crucifixion because of their perversion of the Doctrine of "resurrection".

This should be plain to anyone above the 6th grade and with two active brain cells.

Michael

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