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| ParadigmShift (OP) User ID: 31231991 United States02/07/2013 09:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you might just find out how mislead and spiritually bankrupt you really are. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25801142 Judge not Is bankrupt a judgement? No it is a condition. Is half baked a judgment? No it's a condition. I will pray for you. Think before you speak, and don't use the words of God when you know not how to use them. |
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| ParadigmShift (OP) User ID: 31231991 United States02/07/2013 09:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Am I condemed for eternity if Jesus told me he wasnt my savior, but I was the warrior of life? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25196431 The only one with the power of condemnation is the Father and the Son. However, I will tell you your works have the power to lead you to two deaths, and the second death is what I would be concerned about the most. |
| 4Q529 User ID: 33179091 United States02/07/2013 09:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Good morning Brothers and Sisters Quoting: ParadigmShift This message is for every member on this forum, we are all God's children. Yes and no. According to the reply of Jesus to the Sadducees in Chapter 20, verse 36 of the Gospel of Luke, the "sons of God" are very specifically defined as "children of the resurrection". And who are the "children of the resurrection"? Those who have received the Revelation of the "resurrection"; that is, those who have received the Revelation of the Memory of Creation and the revelation of the memories of previous lives. On the other hand, there is the consciousness Created 'by and in the image of God' (Chapter 1:27 of Genesis), and the 'fallen' consciousness of the "self" and the 'thinker'. Only the consciousness Created by God was Created by God. The consciousness of the "self" and the 'thinker' are self-created. So, a person is a "child of God" only to the extent that they express the consciousness Created by God rather than the consciousness of the "self" and the 'thinker'. Hitler, for example, was not a child of God. Michael |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 21057428 United States02/07/2013 09:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Good morning Brothers and Sisters Quoting: ParadigmShift This message is for every member on this forum, we are all God's children. It is particularly intended for every poster that likes to quote scriptures, post YouTube videos, and spread messages without real meaning. Everyone of you are half baked Christians with the spiritual equivalency of invalids. Just as the supposed teachers in the time of Jesus, the Pharisees pushed doctrine and never knew the true meaning. How many times did Jesus chastise them? There are only a few on this forum that are truly enlightened to speak, the rest of you are false prophets because you have no idea regarding the true ways of the Kingdom. You post this, spread that, and little you know it is deceit and deception you spread. As in my other post concerning Sack Cloth and the disciples, I have come to teach and Shepard. I come to open eyes. Wow........such hate and false judgement against others and elevating yourself. Where is the love and humility in your post brother? The pharisees were a prime example of hate and false judgement, and self righteousness. They too thought only they were qualified, but in fact Jesus told them they were nothing but empty shells. Have a good day. |
| ParadigmShift (OP) User ID: 31231991 United States02/07/2013 10:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Good morning Brothers and Sisters Quoting: ParadigmShift This message is for every member on this forum, we are all God's children. Yes and no. According to the reply of Jesus to the Sadducees in Chapter 20, verse 36 of the Gospel of Luke, the "sons of God" are very specifically defined as "children of the resurrection". And who are the "children of the resurrection"? Those who have received the Revelation of the "resurrection"; that is, those who have received the Revelation of the Memory of Creation and the revelation of the memories of previous lives. On the other hand, there is the consciousness Created 'by and in the image of God' (Chapter 1:27 of Genesis), and the 'fallen' consciousness of the "self" and the 'thinker'. Only the consciousness Created by God was Created by God. The consciousness of the "self" and the 'thinker' are self-created. So, a person is a "child of God" only to the extent that they express the consciousness Created by God rather than the consciousness of the "self" and the 'thinker'. Hitler, for example, was not a child of God. Michael Michael Everything is of God's creation and we are all his children. Again I will ask people not to speak unless they have thought. You will not split my hairs. Your reference to children is based on difference of works. And yes there is two different meanings. Again, we are all God's children, and yes Hitler was a child of God as god creates all things. However, based on his works the truth is he wasn't a child of God in that light. |
| 4Q529 User ID: 33179091 United States02/07/2013 10:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The pharisees were a prime example of hate and false judgement, and self righteousness. Quoting: Lisa*Lisa Why not come right out and say that they had bad breath? Leaven is a very, very small ingredient in bread. The "leaven" of the Pharisees was doctrinal. They taught the Egyptian 'god of the dead' (Chapter 20:38 of the Gospel of Luke) doctrine of the physical raising of a dead body from the grave; which is the significance of the term "synagogue of Satan" in the Revelation of John. That's why they wanted Jesus dead. He repudiated their doctrine, expressed by the mouth of the Sadducees. Michael Last Edited by 4Q529 on 02/07/2013 10:03 AM |
| Luke25 User ID: 13039567 United States02/07/2013 10:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Good morning Brothers and Sisters Quoting: ParadigmShift This message is for every member on this forum, we are all God's children. It is particularly intended for every poster that likes to quote scriptures, post YouTube videos, and spread messages without real meaning. Everyone of you are half baked Christians with the spiritual equivalency of invalids. Just as the supposed teachers in the time of Jesus, the Pharisees pushed doctrine and never knew the true meaning. How many times did Jesus chastise them? There are only a few on this forum that are truly enlightened to speak, the rest of you are false prophets because you have no idea regarding the true ways of the Kingdom. You post this, spread that, and little you know it is deceit and deception you spread. As in my other post concerning Sack Cloth and the disciples, I have come to teach and Shepard. I come to open eyes. I deserve nothing, for God deserves it all, and might the wisdom he gave me bring him Glory. Now here is my second lesson. Jesus told Peter to build his house upon this rock. How does this relate to the parable of the sower? Many of you will look and not study, but if you do study you might just find out how mislead and spiritually bankrupt you really are. Might the grace of God befall all of you, might it be his light that guides and directs you towards the narrow path. I owe everything to God, and the only things he wants in return is your full love and obedience. How can we love him if we do not know him? You have one father, and he loves you. Ask for the knowledge, ask that you might drink from the waters of wisdom, and guess what he will allow you to. Again, Jesus's words to Peter relates directly with the Parable of the Sower. He's telling Peter to build the church on the rock that is Jesus Christ. What's the problem with this? What aren't people understanding about this? I'm not sure what you're getting at? |
| anonymous User ID: 33746375 United States02/07/2013 10:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Absolutely WRONG, all of mankind is created by The Lord, however ALL are NOT children of God. Jesus Himself said to the false religious hypocrites "ye are as your' father the devil...!} He also said "I will have those who call themselves Jews and are NOT come and bow before you and acknowledge I have loved you..." This is why there are several resurrections one to eternal life one to eternal damnation. The true "children of God" will be in the first resurrection, others (some will be in the second.) |
| 4Q529 User ID: 33179091 United States02/07/2013 10:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The true "children of God" will be in the first resurrection, others (some will be in the second.) Quoting: anonymous 33746375 This is hearsay. You are merely repeating what someone has told you; repeating the lies of people who have been paid to lie because they have no Knowledge. It is clear that you have no Knowledge of what you are talking about. Michael |
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| 4Q529 User ID: 33179091 United States02/07/2013 10:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you had read the Bible and discerned what it says you would know you are wrong. One can read a coded book and have NO idea what it says, obviously you are such a person. You are spiritually blind, try studying the resurrections. Quoting: anonymous 33746375 Read Chapter 12:9 of the Book of Daniel. It says that "these words"--meaning the words about especially "the resurrection" and the Vision of the "Son of man" in the Book of Daniel--"will remain secret and sealed until the time of the End." A "secret" is something that you don't know, or something that you have never been told before. That "the resurrection" is a Doctrine of 'Rebirth' is a specific secret whose Revelation was Prophesied to be made known only at the "time of the End." You might also want to read Chapter 12:1 of that book. Oh, by the way, explain the reply of Jesus to the Sadducees. You can't. Michael Last Edited by 4Q529 on 02/07/2013 10:27 AM |
| ParadigmShift (OP) User ID: 31231991 United States02/07/2013 10:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Good morning Brothers and Sisters Quoting: ParadigmShift This message is for every member on this forum, we are all God's children. It is particularly intended for every poster that likes to quote scriptures, post YouTube videos, and spread messages without real meaning. Everyone of you are half baked Christians with the spiritual equivalency of invalids. Just as the supposed teachers in the time of Jesus, the Pharisees pushed doctrine and never knew the true meaning. How many times did Jesus chastise them? There are only a few on this forum that are truly enlightened to speak, the rest of you are false prophets because you have no idea regarding the true ways of the Kingdom. You post this, spread that, and little you know it is deceit and deception you spread. As in my other post concerning Sack Cloth and the disciples, I have come to teach and Shepard. I come to open eyes. Wow........such hate and false judgement against others and elevating yourself. Where is the love and humility in your post brother? The pharisees were a prime example of hate and false judgement, and self righteousness. They too thought only they were qualified, but in fact Jesus told them they were nothing but empty shells. Have a good day. Lisa There are no words of hate, nor is that the message. I am challenging people on this forum, and laying down lessons, steeping stones. Your ego gets the best of you, and you go straight into attack mode. The Pharisees were hypocrites and their knowledge was shallow. Look at the depth of some of the posters, valiant they are but they lack wisdom. Wisdom only comes when you drink from the fountain, it is a gift from God. In fact, you say hate, I say we are all God's children. Is that hate or love? You will not find any hate within my soul, I love everything unconditionally, that being another gift, and comes from God alone. |
| ParadigmShift (OP) User ID: 31231991 United States02/07/2013 10:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Good morning Brothers and Sisters Quoting: ParadigmShift This message is for every member on this forum, we are all God's children. It is particularly intended for every poster that likes to quote scriptures, post YouTube videos, and spread messages without real meaning. Everyone of you are half baked Christians with the spiritual equivalency of invalids. Just as the supposed teachers in the time of Jesus, the Pharisees pushed doctrine and never knew the true meaning. How many times did Jesus chastise them? There are only a few on this forum that are truly enlightened to speak, the rest of you are false prophets because you have no idea regarding the true ways of the Kingdom. You post this, spread that, and little you know it is deceit and deception you spread. As in my other post concerning Sack Cloth and the disciples, I have come to teach and Shepard. I come to open eyes. I deserve nothing, for God deserves it all, and might the wisdom he gave me bring him Glory. Now here is my second lesson. Jesus told Peter to build his house upon this rock. How does this relate to the parable of the sower? Many of you will look and not study, but if you do study you might just find out how mislead and spiritually bankrupt you really are. Might the grace of God befall all of you, might it be his light that guides and directs you towards the narrow path. I owe everything to God, and the only things he wants in return is your full love and obedience. How can we love him if we do not know him? You have one father, and he loves you. Ask for the knowledge, ask that you might drink from the waters of wisdom, and guess what he will allow you to. Again, Jesus's words to Peter relates directly with the Parable of the Sower. He's telling Peter to build the church on the rock that is Jesus Christ. What's the problem with this? What aren't people understanding about this? I'm not sure what you're getting at? Nope. It goes back to the parable of the sower. Jesus knew the condition that the church would be in before he died. He knew man would inherit the church. While part of your statement is true, build this church on my words, you have to connect all the dots. He said rock because it goes back to the parable of the sower. He could have used any word, but he said rock. Last Edited by Troy. on 02/07/2013 10:38 AM |
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| ParadigmShift (OP) User ID: 31231991 United States02/07/2013 10:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Absolutely WRONG, all of mankind is created by The Lord, however ALL are NOT children of God. Jesus Himself said to the false religious hypocrites "ye are as your' father the devil...!} He also said "I will have those who call themselves Jews and are NOT come and bow before you and acknowledge I have loved you..." This is why there are several resurrections one to eternal life one to eternal damnation. The true "children of God" will be in the first resurrection, others (some will be in the second.) Quoting: anonymous 33746375 You reference children based on works. Can you not see the fault. We are all children of God based on his love for all of us and his creation. Now if you mention works and children of god there is a distinction. |
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| ParadigmShift (OP) User ID: 31231991 United States02/07/2013 10:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 1 Corinthians 15:23 tells the real truth for any/all to see. "those WHO BELONG to Him....." So obviously some/many DO NOT! Quoting: anonymous 33746375 We all belong to him it is by choice. If we all put upon our very own cloth of sack, his knowledge would ,will be impressed. God wants all of you, his children, to love Him, he demands it. You give him that, and he will unlock everything else in time. Last Edited by Troy. on 02/07/2013 10:48 AM |
| ParadigmShift (OP) User ID: 31231991 United States02/07/2013 10:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I told you all are created by The Lord, all are not of Him. He said Himself "your' works are as filthy rags...(so much for works predicated "salvation".) 1Corinth. 15:23 shows ONLY those who are His will be in the first resurrection. Quoting: anonymous 33746375 If we are of him we love him above all things. Out of that love is obedience to his commandments. The love and obedience brings forth the fruition of works. We are all his children, yet separated by our own works in the end. |
| ParadigmShift (OP) User ID: 31231991 United States02/07/2013 10:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Good morning Brothers and Sisters Quoting: ParadigmShift This message is for every member on this forum, we are all God's children. It is particularly intended for every poster that likes to quote scriptures, post YouTube videos, and spread messages without real meaning. Everyone of you are half baked Christians with the spiritual equivalency of invalids. Just as the supposed teachers in the time of Jesus, the Pharisees pushed doctrine and never knew the true meaning. How many times did Jesus chastise them? There are only a few on this forum that are truly enlightened to speak, the rest of you are false prophets because you have no idea regarding the true ways of the Kingdom. You post this, spread that, and little you know it is deceit and deception you spread. As in my other post concerning Sack Cloth and the disciples, I have come to teach and Shepard. I come to open eyes. Wow........such hate and false judgement against others and elevating yourself. Where is the love and humility in your post brother? The pharisees were a prime example of hate and false judgement, and self righteousness. They too thought only they were qualified, but in fact Jesus told them they were nothing but empty shells. Have a good day. And again Lisa in my original post I asked the grace of God to fall upon all of you, I asked that his light shine on all of you. Is that hate? Is this how you define hate? If so, I would like to see your definition of love. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 18738533 United States02/07/2013 10:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP I hope you are thinking out loud trying to organize your thoughts to come to a better understanding. Scripture speaks quite plainly to the believer. The message of the Gospel is not some hidden secret for only a few to understand. Everyone who has an ear bent toward faith in Jesus Christ can plainly understand the gospel. God is not trying to trick us. He made His plan quite clear. |
| 4Q529 User ID: 33874429 United States02/07/2013 10:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Scripture speaks quite plainly to the believer. The message of the Gospel is not some hidden secret for only a few to understand. Everyone who has an ear bent toward faith in Jesus Christ can plainly understand the gospel. God is not trying to trick us. He made His plan quite clear. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18738533 This, of course, is in specific contradiction of Chapter 12:9 of the Book of Daniel, which asserts that "these words will remain secret and sealed until the time of the End." Precisely what is it that you do not understand about the word "secret"? And, when that secret is finally Revealed, it is said that "the wicked will never understand; the wise will understand." Michael |
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| anonymous User ID: 33746375 United States02/07/2013 11:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We are currently in the "time of the end..." and only those who know Him now will be "His at His coming in the clouds..." The world is predominately blind to the things of God, the Lord said so and that is why there is a time order with the resurrection(s). |
| ParadigmShift (OP) User ID: 31231991 United States02/07/2013 11:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP I hope you are thinking out loud trying to organize your thoughts to come to a better understanding. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18738533 Scripture speaks quite plainly to the believer. The message of the Gospel is not some hidden secret for only a few to understand. Everyone who has an ear bent toward faith in Jesus Christ can plainly understand the gospel. God is not trying to trick us. He made His plan quite clear. Jesus tells Peter to build his church upon this rock. He knew man would inherit the church, and how corrupt men are. This relates back to the sower, because at this time he, Jesus, is the seed and his seed was thrown out to the rocks. That is where the seed was grown in the rocks. The church at that point could go either way, dependent on the direction of man. And we all know the direction the Church took. Last Edited by Troy. on 02/07/2013 11:08 AM |
