Half Baked Christians, Doctrine, Meaning, and Wisdom

I will second your response of 'Right' Michael.

God tells us the eyes would not see, and the ears would not hear.



Last Edited by Troy. on 02/07/2013 11:18 AM

It's really funny neither of you have mentioned how one "understands" the Gospel (Gospel of the Kingdom of God/heaven). There is only one way, through discernment granted by God/Son through the Holy Spirit of God. All other "gibberish" is just that nonsense of man. God said it so well when He said "the wisdom of man is foolishness to Me..."!

And it is foolish how you saw what you only wanted to see. I lay out how to understand. Love the father, and like any good Dad, he will teach you. My first lesson was about the kingdom and how it is represented, and second this one is about The seed, Jesus, and the rock is was built on. My third will bring it to church and how the church has not been a good sower of His seed.

I break it into 'laymen' terms so everybody can understand, bit I always bring the true meaning. I will never go against his word, but I will show you how Men have went against and changed His.

In Proverbs what was the only thing that Soloman prayed for? He could have asked for anything, but what was it he asked for?

wisdom and understanding

Yep. A gift that can be handed to all of us if we approach God on His terms.

True and the way to the holy spirit is by obedience to his laws statutes and commands.
THE HOLY SPIRIT IS GIVEN UNTO THOSE WHO OBEY acts 5:32:hf:

^^Lisa said it best.

We're all tested spiritually & no one holds true 100% of the time, no even you, your highness

It is from love that we are obedient. When we obey we are rewarded. We cannot 'untap' the true power of the spirit when we are in direct violation of the law. Only governments, and churches reward criminals. God does not, if they don't come clean, He punishes them.

It may also be profitable for OP to reread Ezek. 34, especially v 15, since OP calls himself a shepherd.

And might you read my reply to Lisa.

I think many beleivers today are not intentionally or mischievously doing deliberate harm but many are not willing to walk down that road of humility. in trusting the word and not what the institutions have brain washed most to believe.We are to pass by the traditions of men and not pass this on to the younger as doctrines from heaven

It is everyone responsibility to read study and use theri gifts accordingly in harmony with the truth of God.That will call for sacrifice of the old things learned putting it all down and obeyng what christ established

This is true..

True to that fact, time is of the essence.

Hi btw pleased to meet you

Deceit has been 'breed' within us, for so many generations. In fact, once a lie, is now accepted as a truth. Well it has to be the truth because my minister told me.

It's a pleasure to meet you. Time in these latter days is of the essence

"For God so loved the world......"


True.....God had a love for His Creation.......as a whole, single, large unit.......and thus sent His Son. This was His great gift of love.


However.......this is very much distinct from how He views individuals.


For those individuals who continue in rebellion against Him......they are currently His enemies (Col 1:21 James 4:4)

And not only are they God's enemies....

God is angry with them every day.
God hates them.
God abhors them.

See Psalm 5: 4-6
Psalm 7: 11
Psalm 11: 5


You might love your car.......but you hate and are angry with a tire when it goes flat.


Those that give their lives to Christ are immediately born again of the Spirit.....indwelt by the Spirit......declared "not guily" based on what Christ did..... clothed in His righteousness and seen as white by the Father.


They immediately go from being an enemy of God to being a child of God and co-heir with Christ.

Hate is not from the kingdom only justice. You say hate and I say get behind me Satan, your ways are foolish. My father as yours, hates not, he only loves. Hate only comes from man, an emotion brought forth from Satan. Don't ask me to see, I ask you to see. And let the wisdom of my father be impressed on you.

Those are the kind of lies that Christians have paid their religious 'authorities' billions of dollars to tell them, sure.

And they are willing to pay that money because the lies are so intensely pleasurable.

Problem is they contradict the Teaching of Jesus.

But the Christians, of course, don't care about that.

All they care about is their own pleasure.

Michael

Michael

Your wisdom is good. I need not tell you that. You have drank from the fountain.

"Hate is not from the kingdom only justice. You say hate and I say get behind me Satan, your ways are foolish. My father as yours, hates not, he only loves. Hate only comes from man, an emotion brought forth from Satan. Don't ask me to see, I ask you to see. And let the wisdom of my father be impressed on you."


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Then you are dismissing Scriptures that are not appealing to you.

You cannot pick and choose in this way.


"Whoever therefore wants to be a friend of the world makes himself and enemy of God." (James 4:4)


Paul to Christians:

"And you, who once were alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now He has reconciled......" (Col 1:21)


Do you think Christ will melt the armies standing against Him because they are His friends? (Rev 19)(Zech 14)


"For You are not a God who takes pleasure in wickedness, nor shall evil dwell with You. The boastful shall not stand in Your sight. You HATE all workers of iniquity. You shall destroy those who speak falsehood; The Lord ABHORS the bloodthirsty and deceitful man." (Ps 5: 4-6)


"God is a just judge, and God is ANGRY with the wicked every day." (Ps 7: 11)


"The Lord tests the righteous, but the wicked and the one who loves violence His soul hates." (Ps 11: 5)



"And this shall be the plague with which the Lord will strike all the people who fought against Jerusalem:

Their flesh shall dissolve while they stand on their feet, their eyes shall dissolve in their sockets, and their tongues shall dissolve in their mouths." (Zech 14: 12)



"And the rest were killed with the sword which proceeded from the mouth of Him who sat on the horse. And all the birds were filled with their flesh." (Rev 19: 21)


It is true the God directs His children to love everyone......including our enemies.

However with God......"Vengeance is Mine, says the Lord."

A million of your good works will not even cancel out one single sin.

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In Psalms what soul do you think that speaks of? It refers to our soul. And you call Gods justice hate? Open your eyes to the real ways. Bring your quotes that I might open up your eyes.

This brings me to concluded on the only unpardonable sin. Think about it might you see. Do not quote scriptures unless you UNDERSTAND.

not a drop of blood in the OP's reply and not a verse quoted.

you lack understanding and preach another gospel which is not another therefore having no righteousness to be justified to God by Christ

know the wrath of God is revealed, repent or change your mind OP and trust in the blood and in Jesus Romans ch. 1-4 kjv

OP

The Scriptures above clearly show Paul reminded early Christians that they were once Enemies of God......but had been reconciled to God through the blood of Christ and their faith in Him.



True when you are born you are a wonderful creation of God.


However when you are old enough to read and understand God's laws........and then go out and deliberately break one......you die spiritually and are cut of from God.


God is holy. That first sin kills you......and cuts you off from God. Hence Christ told Nicodemus, "Marvel not, you must be born again."


It also took only one sin to ruin Paradise.....Adam and Eve choosing to listen to satan and eat the fruit.


Thereafter this led to the whole world being ruined by sin......which continues to be the case even to this day.


One single sin..............God is Holy.

And why were they enemies of God? They did not love him and and were not obedient to Him. When you break a commandment the relationship is severed, but that does not mean he doesn't love you. He might dislike what you are doing, but he does not hate you. If he hated you he would not forgive you.