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Texas is now waking up to ANTI DRONE laws!!!!!!

 
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[link to radio.woai.com]

Texas would have the toughest anti-drone legislation in the country under a bill filed by State Rep. Lance Gooden (R-Terrell).

1200 WOAI's Michael Board reports that Gooden has introduced a measure which would outlaw the use of drones by individuals, or state or federal law enforcement.

Gooden tells 1200 WOAI news that his bill would have limited exceptions, including allowing drones within 25 miles of the Rio Grande for drug and illegal immigrant interdiction programs, or for use by law enforcement with a valid search or arrest warrant, with 'probable cause to believe that a person has committed a felony.'


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Lets hope every state jumps on this wagon!!!!!
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I wouldn't call that waking up at all
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I'm sure that you wouldn't AC. What is your state doing to combat this Federal overeach?
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"These drones are going to get so cheap that soon you'll be able to buy your own drone at Best Buy," Gooden said. "You could park it a foot above the ground in your neighbor's back yard and film into their house. If someone wanted to film your children out playing by the pool and put that video on the Internet, as creepy as that sounds."

Gooden says his measure is being introduced now, rather than five years from now when drones will become more ubiquitous, because now is the time to come up with laws, before there is a 'drone lobby' which will be out in force to protect the drone industry. He points out had laws prohibiting texting and driving been passed 15 years ago, texting and driving would not be the problem it is today.

"Soon you will be able to park your own drone over someone's private property and perform indiscriminate surveillance all day long," he said.

Gooden's bill would also prohibit federal law enforcement or federal officials from flying drones over Texas to spy on random citizens. Only individuals who are suspected with reasonable cause could be the target of drone surveillance, and only with a warrant issued by a judge of an open and public court.
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law enforcement still gets them while citizens are banned from using them
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I'm sure that you wouldn't AC. What is your state doing to combat this Federal overeach?
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I am Texan
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Wow this is fair spreading fast.resist
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law enforcement still gets them while citizens are banned from using them
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Our Sheriffs are more likely to turn them on the Feds.

banana
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new equipment provided by the Feds comes with an obligation
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I wouldn't call that waking up at all
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That's because you're not very bright.
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You're the one cheering for being banned from something
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Hey!!!!!! Thanks for the pin!!!!!!
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law enforcement still gets them while citizens are banned from using them
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Our Sheriffs are more likely to turn them on the Feds.

banana
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new equipment provided by the Feds comes with an obligation
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32876041


There are many sources that do not involve the feds.

The lawmakers are trying to get ahead of the slippery slope. For once that are taking an approach that is not simply, and impotently, reactionary.
Life is karma and karma always reflects both past and present circumstance. Our time here is short, so choose carefully and behave well, for all of your tomorrows are presently being decided.

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law enforcement still gets them while citizens are banned from using them
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32876041


Our Sheriffs are more likely to turn them on the Feds.

banana
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new equipment provided by the Feds comes with an obligation
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32876041


There are many sources that do not involve the feds.

The lawmakers are trying to get ahead of the slippery slope. For once that are taking an approach that is not simply, and impotently, reactionary.
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only thing that this has changed is if any evidence obtained by a civilian (including against law enforcement officers) will not be valid. And these video drones are available on the shelves for a few hundred and even controllable by your phone.
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Great OP! Also I had been thinking that Texas should be getting ready for the reset/marxist/fascist takeover and was very glad when this thread appeared: Thread: Texas Prepares for Sovereignty if U.S. Defaults - Rep. James White Files Texas Self Sufficiency Act HB 568
Our Texas legislator's seem to be awake to obongo's transformation.

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Our Sheriffs are more likely to turn them on the Feds.

banana
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new equipment provided by the Feds comes with an obligation
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32876041


There are many sources that do not involve the feds.

The lawmakers are trying to get ahead of the slippery slope. For once that are taking an approach that is not simply, and impotently, reactionary.
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


only thing that this has changed is if any evidence obtained by a civilian (including against law enforcement officers) will not be valid. And these video drones are available on the shelves for a few hundred and even controllable by your phone.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32876041



A small price to pay to know I still have some degree of privacy in my bedroom even if the curtains somehow crack open from the HVAC air movements.

I already had to deal with one creepy-ass neighbor. It would have been awful if his spying devices had been more advanced than binoculars trained on me while relaxing by the pool.
Life is karma and karma always reflects both past and present circumstance. Our time here is short, so choose carefully and behave well, for all of your tomorrows are presently being decided.

"Don't die on a small cross..." Saddletramp's Mom

"A fool thinks himself to be wise, but a wise man knows himself to be a fool."
-- William Shakespeare, born April 23, 1564.

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Lets hope every state jumps on this wagon!!!!!
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I wouldn't call that waking up at all
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My thoughts exactly. Foot in the door.
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new equipment provided by the Feds comes with an obligation
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32876041


There are many sources that do not involve the feds.

The lawmakers are trying to get ahead of the slippery slope. For once that are taking an approach that is not simply, and impotently, reactionary.
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


only thing that this has changed is if any evidence obtained by a civilian (including against law enforcement officers) will not be valid. And these video drones are available on the shelves for a few hundred and even controllable by your phone.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32876041



A small price to pay to know I still have some degree of privacy in my bedroom even if the curtains somehow crack open from the HVAC air movements.

I already had to deal with one creepy-ass neighbor. It would have been awful if his spying devices had been more advanced than binoculars trained on me while relaxing by the pool.
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so you'll gladly give up liberty for a false sense of security?
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"These drones are going to get so cheap that soon you'll be able to buy your own drone at Best Buy," Gooden said.
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Shit I want one!
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law enforcement still gets them while citizens are banned from using them
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yup right here in Austin there are cameras at every red light and an Austin PD plane that flies around all day observing us but of course republican sheeple will believe these wonderful representatives are gonna protect us from ourselves.
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There are many sources that do not involve the feds.

The lawmakers are trying to get ahead of the slippery slope. For once that are taking an approach that is not simply, and impotently, reactionary.
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


only thing that this has changed is if any evidence obtained by a civilian (including against law enforcement officers) will not be valid. And these video drones are available on the shelves for a few hundred and even controllable by your phone.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32876041



A small price to pay to know I still have some degree of privacy in my bedroom even if the curtains somehow crack open from the HVAC air movements.

I already had to deal with one creepy-ass neighbor. It would have been awful if his spying devices had been more advanced than binoculars trained on me while relaxing by the pool.
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so you'll gladly give up liberty for a false sense of security?
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???????

How is my NOT wanting drones spying all over the place a sacrifice of liberty???

I think you have that backwards.
Life is karma and karma always reflects both past and present circumstance. Our time here is short, so choose carefully and behave well, for all of your tomorrows are presently being decided.

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I already had to deal with one creepy-ass neighbor. It would have been awful if his spying devices had been more advanced than binoculars trained on me while relaxing by the pool.
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Get fat!
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NO!!!

He was fat. I called him the 300lb unibrow neanderthal.
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law enforcement still gets them while citizens are banned from using them
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32876041


yup right here in Austin there are cameras at every red light and an Austin PD plane that flies around all day observing us but of course republican sheeple will believe these wonderful representatives are gonna protect us from ourselves.
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You have missed the point here. The drones are to be made a big no-no.


gaah
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law enforcement still gets them while citizens are banned from using them
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32876041


yup right here in Austin there are cameras at every red light and an Austin PD plane that flies around all day observing us but of course republican sheeple will believe these wonderful representatives are gonna protect us from ourselves.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27515407


You have missed the point here. The drones are to be made a big no-no.


gaah
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you miss the point, only for civilians. LEOs still get to have a field day (with a warrant).
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satellites do the spying.........drones do the killing
"These drones are going to get so cheap that soon you'll be able to buy your own drone at Best Buy," Gooden said. "You could park it a foot above the ground in your neighbor's back yard and film into their house. If someone wanted to film your children out playing by the pool and put that video on the Internet, as creepy as that sounds."

Gooden says his measure is being introduced now, rather than five years from now when drones will become more ubiquitous, because now is the time to come up with laws, before there is a 'drone lobby' which will be out in force to protect the drone industry. He points out had laws prohibiting texting and driving been passed 15 years ago, texting and driving would not be the problem it is today.

"Soon you will be able to park your own drone over someone's private property and perform indiscriminate surveillance all day long," he said.

Gooden's bill would also prohibit federal law enforcement or federal officials from flying drones over Texas to spy on random citizens. Only individuals who are suspected with reasonable cause could be the target of drone surveillance, and only with a warrant issued by a judge of an open and public court.
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yup right here in Austin there are cameras at every red light and an Austin PD plane that flies around all day observing us but of course republican sheeple will believe these wonderful representatives are gonna protect us from ourselves.
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This
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I thought drones were protected by the 2nd Amendment ?????
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law enforcement still gets them while citizens are banned from using them
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yup right here in Austin there are cameras at every red light and an Austin PD plane that flies around all day observing us but of course republican sheeple will believe these wonderful representatives are gonna protect us from ourselves.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27515407


You have missed the point here. The drones are to be made a big no-no.


gaah
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you miss the point, only for civilians. LEOs still get to have a field day (with a warrant).
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You realize Texas judges do not hand those warrants out like candy? Well, except for maybe in freakshow Austin.
Life is karma and karma always reflects both past and present circumstance. Our time here is short, so choose carefully and behave well, for all of your tomorrows are presently being decided.

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-- William Shakespeare, born April 23, 1564.

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law enforcement still gets them while citizens are banned from using them
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32876041


Our Sheriffs are more likely to turn them on the Feds.

banana
 Quoting: Professor Xavier


new equipment provided by the Feds comes with an obligation
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32876041


There are many sources that do not involve the feds.

The lawmakers are trying to get ahead of the slippery slope. For once that are taking an approach that is not simply, and impotently, reactionary.
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


Sounds like you get tossed in jail if you put your gopro on your rc helicopter or airplane - which tons of rc enthusiasts are currently doing.

The law needs to be written better. Sounds far too ambiguous.

As a civilian you should be able to operate a "drone". The government (state or federal) should NOT BE ABLE to operate one on American soil because it is clear that they immediately violate the right to privacy.

Civilians who use drones to "peeping Tom" the neighbors should be fined for violating their privacy. The way rc vehicles with cameras are used by civilians currently is fine - most use them in public spaces so there is no issue.

The Feds or state police would be outfitting the things with thermal sensors in addition to trying to peek inside of people's homes. Screw them.

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