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Manhunt for former LA Police Officer

 
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"Christopher Dorner is probably one of the most dangerous fugitives that law enforcement has gone after in recent times," said Clint Van Zandt, former supervisor of the Federal Bureau of Investigation's profiling unit."

[link to online.wsj.com]
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most dangerous or most elusive?
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"Christopher Dorner is probably one of the most dangerous fugitives that law enforcement has gone after in recent times," said Clint Van Zandt, former supervisor of the Federal Bureau of Investigation's profiling unit."

[link to online.wsj.com]
 Quoting: TeamReaper



most dangerous or most elusive?
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Im going with elusive. That father/son team that was shooting people out of their car killed more people in a shorter amount of time.

Edited to say: Thats wrong, it took a few weeks to capture them. Time will tell i guess

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What station was he from?
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Best manhunt ever!
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Heck ya it is.

First I imagined this as happening....



Then I imagined this.....

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Ok I have been following this since the beginning, this is my first post on the subject. The biggest thing that stands out is the lack of real information out there. We are told he is a bad ass that he was very good at his job and is one of the best of his training class very strong very well armed etc..
yet they say he is leaving gear all over the place and not in commonsense cache locations. for example he left a helmet belt and ammo in a dumpster WTF if he was planning on coming back for it why not in a drain under some rocks behind or in a grease dumpster one that would not be checked or thrown out regularly.

Then he supposedly left weapons and cold weather gear in a truck he then set on fire. where is the inventory list of what was in the truck? why wouldn't he bury the gear and rifle nearby as a back up, if all else fails.
why would he torch it what weapons where found where they like 22s or his .50 cal that makes a huge difference as far as analyzing this goes if it was what could be considered a primary weapon he may be trying to give up and dispose of his weapons. who knows what is going through his head now if its a simple bolt action or 22 that was found. that would tell me he is trying to leave false clues but without real information from the authorities we are at a serious disadvantage to try and figure this out.

Last Edited by Desertwolf on 02/10/2013 04:52 AM
And here we are staring at each other through an electronic............ error goto ram

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Ok I have been following this since the beginning, this is my first post on the subject. The biggest thing that stands out is the lack of real information out there. We are told he is a bad ass that he was very good at his job and is one of the best of his training class very strong very well armed etc..
yet they say he is leaving gear all over the place and not in commonsense cache locations. for example he left a helmet belt and ammo in a dumpster WTF if he was planning on coming back for it why not in a drain under some rocks behind or in a grease dumpster one that would not be checked or thrown out regularly.

Then he supposedly left weapons and cold weather gear in a truck he then set on fire. where is the inventory list of what was in the truck? why wouldn't he bury the gear and rifle nearby as a back up, if all else fails.
why would he torch it what weapons where found where they like 22s or his .50 cal that makes a huge difference as far as analyzing this goes if it was what could be considered a primary weapon he may be trying to give up and dispose of his weapons. who knows what is going through his head now if its a simple bolt action or 22 that was found. that would tell me he is trying to leave false clues but without real information from the authorities we are at a serious disadvantage to try and figure this out.
 Quoting: Desertwolf


I've seen in MSM the long guns in the burned out truck were ar15's with silencers. Dumpster site was I believe just random bullets and a helmet. IDK what the trashing of stuff is all about. Odd to say the least. I think they are more worried about the Berrett 50 he claims to have more than anything.

He is either a frozen pop or holed up somewhere. I also read there are like 200 abandoned cabins up on Big Bear that is if he is still there. Seems like he had time to double back on his tracks, burn his shit, so maybe time to get away. It is interesting imo. All of the above is just what I have read and linked to here when possible. I totally agree with latter statement but until he is found I am like a pitbull with a bone. lol.
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Wow quiet this morning. anything new ?

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Wow quiet this morning. anything new ?

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Lack of news is annoying

Wonder if he'll target cops at the Grammys given his use of media....
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nothing as of yet.

I wouldnt doubt it. That would make a huge statement what with the way people are obsessed with celebs now.
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I think he's hiding in the bushes outside the Grammy's. victory
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nothing as of yet.

I wouldnt doubt it. That would make a huge statement what with the way people are obsessed with celebs now.
 Quoting: Tiger86


LL Cool J is hosting, hope LAPD don't shoot him by mistake
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seems like since he knows the workings

he would leave stuff all over the place

cause each time he does, he would know that they would spend time and energy and tests on each find

that would take manpower i would think

and if each is a false lead mixed in wtih a real then he would tie up alot of brainpower in useless non pattern
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...and last I heard, LAPD was still on tactical alert, meaning all officers on duty as well as 24 hour stakeouts at the houses of targets he named, one of whom stated he has not left his house since this began. (That last in a CBS news link somewhere prior in this thread.)
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just adding some info:

the first shootout between Dorner and police, in Corona,
with the police car involved pictured here
[link to blogs.mydesert.com]

happened here:
[link to maps.google.com]


a closer image of that car-
[link to media.redding.com]

and from the front:
[link to www.trbimg.com]


Dorner was being followed, got off the interstate, stopped his truck and fired into the front of this police car, allowing himself to get away.

Then continuing a few miles on further down this road is where he got ino the second shootout with Riverside police, killing one of them at this intersection:
[link to maps.google.com]


So far the only targeted killing it is believed that he committed is that of Quan and Lawrence, the daughter of an LAPD officer and her fiance on top of a parking deck in Irvine, Ca. So he hasnt killed any actual LAPD yet.


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Dorner's truck is parked in front of his Las Vegas house in this google streetview shot:

[link to maps.google.com]


and, his truck now:
[link to pbs.twimg.com]


Here is a listing for his LV house that I found:
[link to www.trulia.com]


Surveillance video shows man believed to be Dorner throwing items into trash bin in National City
Video, which was recorded Monday, obtained by CNN

[link to www.10news.com]


a good timeline thats being updated:
[link to projects.scpr.org]
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Dorner probably burned his own truck... So the LAPD would not hurt any more innocent people with mistaken identity
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(SNIP)
Surveillance video shows man believed to be Dorner throwing items into trash bin in National City
Video, which was recorded Monday, obtained by CNN

[link to www.10news.com]

 Quoting: jr 33968321


And you didn't think to look into the BUS crash??

"Scapadas Magicas"
From National City, CA.

Crashed on Rout 38 (road to Big BEAR!!)
Killed 8, injured 38

if he's really that smart, he's probably long gone from Tijuana by now!
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As a survivalist I'm pretty ceartin that if he is in fact on Big Bear he is dead. There is no way he would be able to survive under cover this long evading police. It would be hard enough to do in the current weather conditions trying to be found!

With this being said, if he is as trained as they claim he is the last thing he would do is go into Big Bear and decrease his chances of survival. The only way I feel he is on that mountain or alive is if he had areas on the mountain that were ready ahead of time. Even then at this point he would require fire ( if outside ) to survive.

IMO he is either dead on Big Bear or was never on Big Bear for an extended period of time after the truck was burnt up.
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Best manhunt ever!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27268136


can't remember name of the movie
lee marvin goes after charles bronson
a mountain man trapper... ...great movie

....this is just a start though/could get interesting
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Death Hunt - 1981

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Talked to someone living up in Big Bear last night and he said they aren't even supposed to leave the house anymore it's on total lockdown. But with them shooting nearly anything hat moves I don't think I would want to leave anyway. He lives about a mile away from where they found the vehicle.
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Dorner probably burned his own truck... So the LAPD would not hurt any more innocent people with mistaken identity
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24904482


So now they can just shoot at any car that fits the desciption of him driving it?
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Talked to someone living up in Big Bear last night and he said they aren't even supposed to leave the house anymore it's on total lockdown. But with them shooting nearly anything hat moves I don't think I would want to leave anyway. He lives about a mile away from where they found the vehicle.
 Quoting: Coma Patient #7


that's right. once they get the order to "shoot to kill",
all the rules go out the window.
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I am going to ahead and be the first, you all seemed sheeped into this story


bsflag


so wait, in 2013 their is one man elusively
acting like RAMBO?, nobody can find him like he is bin laden?
Come on now lets think, this is happening in LA aka Movie land.


After the Sandy Hook fiasco where many were saying actors, setup etc
Why are people taking this story as legit?, reports saying he has a missile launcher...really?


Sorry but this story is to over the top to be seen as legit

media are not even giving it much attention like before

They know whats up.
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Dorner probably burned his own truck... So the LAPD would not hurt any more innocent people with mistaken identity
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24904482


So now they can just shoot at any car that fits the desciption of him driving it?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7736082


I guess we will have to wait and see on that action... I wouldn't put it past them
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As a survivalist I'm pretty ceartin that if he is in fact on Big Bear he is dead. There is no way he would be able to survive under cover this long evading police. It would be hard enough to do in the current weather conditions trying to be found!

With this being said, if he is as trained as they claim he is the last thing he would do is go into Big Bear and decrease his chances of survival. The only way I feel he is on that mountain or alive is if he had areas on the mountain that were ready ahead of time. Even then at this point he would require fire ( if outside ) to survive.

IMO he is either dead on Big Bear or was never on Big Bear for an extended period of time after the truck was burnt up.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9581395


Yeah, it's really cold up there. On the scanner page chatter said it was 2 degrees early this am.

IIRC that first night after his burned out truck was found the storm moved in and they were not able to search with the flir as good as they would of liked.

So how long before all heat leaves a body? Could be frozen anywhere or by luck or plan made it the hell out of there soon after ditching the truck.
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Pilot reported some agency just texted him requesting a Recon flight, he doesnt know who it is.

Last Edited by BossBitch on 02/10/2013 12:36 PM
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They sure are doing a lot of low altitude flying, I guess they must not believe he really has manpads. Though I guess logically, at this point, if he really did have manpads and was bent on killing LEOs, he would have used them by now.
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bump for news
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THE SILENCE IS DEAFENING!

waaaht
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They sure are doing a lot of low altitude flying, I guess they must not believe he really has manpads. Though I guess logically, at this point, if he really did have manpads and was bent on killing LEOs, he would have used them by now.
 Quoting: JennOfArc


hell, 3 or 4 drones flying a grid could keep them tuned-in
in the comfort of their Malibu underground lair.
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As a survivalist I'm pretty ceartin that if he is in fact on Big Bear he is dead. There is no way he would be able to survive under cover this long evading police. It would be hard enough to do in the current weather conditions trying to be found!

With this being said, if he is as trained as they claim he is the last thing he would do is go into Big Bear and decrease his chances of survival. The only way I feel he is on that mountain or alive is if he had areas on the mountain that were ready ahead of time. Even then at this point he would require fire ( if outside ) to survive.

IMO he is either dead on Big Bear or was never on Big Bear for an extended period of time after the truck was burnt up.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9581395


Yeah, it's really cold up there. On the scanner page chatter said it was 2 degrees early this am.

IIRC that first night after his burned out truck was found the storm moved in and they were not able to search with the flir as good as they would of liked.

So how long before all heat leaves a body? Could be frozen anywhere or by luck or plan made it the hell out of there soon after ditching the truck.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5141990


MANY old silver mines on Big Bear...FLIR would be useless, if he took shelter in one of them!


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