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BossBitch

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Im going with elusive. That father/son team that was shooting people out of their car killed more people in a shorter amount of time.

Edited to say: Thats wrong, it took a few weeks to capture them. Time will tell i guess
 Quoting: BossBitch


If you are referring to the "DC sniper" case.. which by the way.. he was not a sniper.

that was NOT a father and son.

it was a black muslim convert and a 17 year old follower.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33337354


whenever you "lay-in wait" and shoot somebody, that's a "sniper", dumbass.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33351085


Where do you assholes come from..

No fuckstick.. that would be called an AMBUSH.

God damn dumb son of a bitch.

Snipers are officially trained by organizations and EARN the title.

You stupid fucking cunt.

God damn know it all cumstain.. best part of you ran down the crack of your mommas ass. Now shut the fuck up unless you can actually add factual information.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33337354


Sniper: A marksman who shoots at people from a concealed place.
Look up the many definitions in the dictionary, you fucking asshat. A sniper can lie in ambush. It can be both! OMG WHAT A REVELATION. Dont try to jag off and think about big-boy words at the same time, its too much for your level 70 IQ
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If he's still alive, I doubt seriously he would be anywhere near Big Bear.
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If he's still alive, I doubt seriously he would be anywhere near Big Bear.
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i would think that after all this time, the trail
in Big Bear has gone completely cold by now.

the cops are gonna have to pull a rabbit out of their ass, now,
or just sit and wait for his next move.
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If you are referring to the "DC sniper" case.. which by the way.. he was not a sniper.

that was NOT a father and son.

it was a black muslim convert and a 17 year old follower.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33337354


whenever you "lay-in wait" and shoot somebody, that's a "sniper", dumbass.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33351085


Where do you assholes come from..

No fuckstick.. that would be called an AMBUSH.

God damn dumb son of a bitch.

Snipers are officially trained by organizations and EARN the title.

You stupid fucking cunt.

God damn know it all cumstain.. best part of you ran down the crack of your mommas ass. Now shut the fuck up unless you can actually add factual information.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33337354


Sniper: A marksman who shoots at people from a concealed place.
Look up the many definitions in the dictionary, you fucking asshat. A sniper can lie in ambush. It can be both! OMG WHAT A REVELATION. Dont try to jag off and think about big-boy words at the same time, its too much for your level 70 IQ
 Quoting: BossBitch

banana2Ass Hat...love it. Dictionary versus Army official definitions may vary.
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If he's still alive, I doubt seriously he would be anywhere near Big Bear.
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i would think that after all this time, the trail
in Big Bear has gone completely cold by now.

the cops are gonna have to pull a rabbit out of their ass, now,
or just sit and wait for his next move.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33351085


They have to do something to keep "the troops" occupied and the media satisfied.
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[link to www.express.co.uk]

Yesterday, as a task force of 125 officers, some riding Snowcats in the rugged terrain, continued their search, it was revealed that Dorner has become the first human target for remotely-controlled airborne drones on US soil.

A senior police source said: “The thermal imaging cameras the drones use may be our only hope of finding him. On the ground, it’s like looking for a needle in a haystack.”

Asked directly if drones have already been deployed, Riverside Police Chief Sergio Diaz, who is jointly leading the task force, said: “We are using all the tools at our disposal.”

The use of drones was later confirmed by Customs and Border Patrol spokesman Ralph DeSio, who revealed agents have been prepared for Dorner to make a dash for the Mexican border since his rampage began.

He said: “This agency has been at the forefront of domestic use of drones by law enforcement. That’s all I can say at the moment.”
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28689320


is there any other "official" comment? anyone "announcing" this?
 Quoting: eos


it's a no-brainer that they would be using military drones to search large sections of terrain.
seach
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33351085


k, well no, it's not a no-brainer, although it might seem obvious. a google search on part of the quote from the uk express did bring up the article from 18 hrs ago, but that quote by the "Customs and Border Patrol" spokesman is not there.
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[link to www.express.co.uk]

Yesterday, as a task force of 125 officers, some riding Snowcats in the rugged terrain, continued their search, it was revealed that Dorner has become the first human target for remotely-controlled airborne drones on US soil.

A senior police source said: “The thermal imaging cameras the drones use may be our only hope of finding him. On the ground, it’s like looking for a needle in a haystack.”

Asked directly if drones have already been deployed, Riverside Police Chief Sergio Diaz, who is jointly leading the task force, said: “We are using all the tools at our disposal.”

The use of drones was later confirmed by Customs and Border Patrol spokesman Ralph DeSio, who revealed agents have been prepared for Dorner to make a dash for the Mexican border since his rampage began.

He said: “This agency has been at the forefront of domestic use of drones by law enforcement. That’s all I can say at the moment.”
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28689320


is there any other "official" comment? anyone "announcing" this?
 Quoting: eos


it's a no-brainer that they would be using military drones to search large sections of terrain.
seach
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33351085


k, well no, it's not a no-brainer, although it might seem obvious. a google search on part of the quote from the uk express did bring up the article from 18 hrs ago, but that quote by the "Customs and Border Patrol" spokesman is not there.
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well, i'm referring to one's having the native intelligence
to be able to play "connect the dots".
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Sorry guys but Daily Express is a comic
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is there any other "official" comment? anyone "announcing" this?
 Quoting: eos


it's a no-brainer that they would be using military drones to search large sections of terrain.
seach
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33351085


k, well no, it's not a no-brainer, although it might seem obvious. a google search on part of the quote from the uk express did bring up the article from 18 hrs ago, but that quote by the "Customs and Border Patrol" spokesman is not there.
 Quoting: eos


well, i'm referring to one's having the native intelligence
to be able to play "connect the dots".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33351085


frankly, but no thanks for that dot.

there is no sign of anyone named that--Ralph DeSio, ever saying anything, anywhere.

sorry, i don't have any news but this, but i like the rough and tumble texture to this narrative, however comical at times.
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Re: Manhunt for former LA Police Officer
Looking for more updates this morning, I came across this article which gives links to data dumps, dug up by a reporter.

If you are interested in reading any documentation related to his claims, here you go.

Legal analyst Robin Sax dug up 21 documents related to the instances of alleged police corruption that ex-LAPD officer Chris Dorner detailed in his online manifesto. Among the documents are Internal Affairs information, Court of Appeals documents and more.

Actual links here: [link to www.myfoxla.com]


DOCUMENTS: Deposition, Legal Papers Challenging LAPD


Dorner v LAPD Court Case

Petition for Writ of Mandamus (Robin says this is the document where Dorner asks the court to review LAPD's Board of Review's decision to terminate him):

Dorner v LAPD Apr2009

Dorner Board Selection Form

Dorner Application for Hearing LAPD

Dorner Power of Attorney

Dorner Board of Rights Time Waiver

Dorner Notice to Employee Representative

Dorner Substitution of Defense Counsel

Dorner Person Summary

Dorner LAPD Complaint Form

Dorner Interdepartmental Correspondence Jun2008

Dorner Interdepartmental Correspondence Oct2008

Dorner Addenda

Dorner Decision of the Board of Rights and Execution of the Order

Dorner Case Summary LA Sup Court

Dorner Board of Rights Appointment

Dorner Interdepartmental Correspondence Jul2008

Dorner Discovery Request Form

Appellate Court Decision:

Dorner v LAPD Appeal Oct2011

Other Documents:

Dorner v LAPD Attorney Change Oct2010

Dorner v LAPD Appeal Notice Aug2010

Dorner v City of Los Angeles Judgement
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02/10/2013 02:32 PM
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Anything new?
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another thread working
Thread: California Manhunt (Page 21)
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If you are referring to the "DC sniper" case.. which by the way.. he was not a sniper.

that was NOT a father and son.

it was a black muslim convert and a 17 year old follower.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33337354


whenever you "lay-in wait" and shoot somebody, that's a "sniper", dumbass.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33351085


Where do you assholes come from..

No fuckstick.. that would be called an AMBUSH.

God damn dumb son of a bitch.

Snipers are officially trained by organizations and EARN the title.

You stupid fucking cunt.

God damn know it all cumstain.. best part of you ran down the crack of your mommas ass. Now shut the fuck up unless you can actually add factual information.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33337354


Sniper: A marksman who shoots at people from a concealed place.
Look up the many definitions in the dictionary, you fucking asshat. A sniper can lie in ambush. It can be both! OMG WHAT A REVELATION. Dont try to jag off and think about big-boy words at the same time, its too much for your level 70 IQ
 Quoting: BossBitch


There is only one definition cunt:

A sniper is a highly trained marksman who operates alone, in a pair, or with a team to maintain close visual contact with the enemy and engage targets from concealed positions or distances exceeding the detection capabilities of enemy personnel. These sniper teams operate independently, with little combat asset support from their parent units. Snipers typically have highly selective and specialized training and use high-precision rifles and optics, and often have sophisticated communication assets to feed valuable combat information back to their units.

There it is

Snipers are trained to do what they do.they are not some random shitbag that picks up a rifle and goes to shooting people.

Any trained sniper would tell you the same. You are a disrespectful whore referring to scumbags who murder people for no reason as "snipers". Actual Snipers are trained professionals.

get back in your lane titswiggle.. or back in the fuckin kitchen and make some sammiches.

You are hardly the expert you believe yourself to be on any of these topics.
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whenever you "lay-in wait" and shoot somebody, that's a "sniper", dumbass.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33351085


Where do you assholes come from..

No fuckstick.. that would be called an AMBUSH.

God damn dumb son of a bitch.

Snipers are officially trained by organizations and EARN the title.

You stupid fucking cunt.

God damn know it all cumstain.. best part of you ran down the crack of your mommas ass. Now shut the fuck up unless you can actually add factual information.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33337354


Sniper: A marksman who shoots at people from a concealed place.
Look up the many definitions in the dictionary, you fucking asshat. A sniper can lie in ambush. It can be both! OMG WHAT A REVELATION. Dont try to jag off and think about big-boy words at the same time, its too much for your level 70 IQ
 Quoting: BossBitch

banana2Ass Hat...love it. Dictionary versus Army official definitions may vary.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29948208


And "ass-hats" will use the definition the MSM has fed their sheep asses for a decade now.

because they are, well.. dumb sheep.
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whenever you "lay-in wait" and shoot somebody, that's a "sniper", dumbass.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33351085


Where do you assholes come from..

No fuckstick.. that would be called an AMBUSH.

God damn dumb son of a bitch.

Snipers are officially trained by organizations and EARN the title.

You stupid fucking cunt.

God damn know it all cumstain.. best part of you ran down the crack of your mommas ass. Now shut the fuck up unless you can actually add factual information.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33337354


Sniper: A marksman who shoots at people from a concealed place.
Look up the many definitions in the dictionary, you fucking asshat. A sniper can lie in ambush. It can be both! OMG WHAT A REVELATION. Dont try to jag off and think about big-boy words at the same time, its too much for your level 70 IQ
 Quoting: BossBitch


There is only one definition cunt:

A sniper is a highly trained marksman who operates alone, in a pair, or with a team to maintain close visual contact with the enemy and engage targets from concealed positions or distances exceeding the detection capabilities of enemy personnel. These sniper teams operate independently, with little combat asset support from their parent units. Snipers typically have highly selective and specialized training and use high-precision rifles and optics, and often have sophisticated communication assets to feed valuable combat information back to their units.

There it is

Snipers are trained to do what they do.they are not some random shitbag that picks up a rifle and goes to shooting people.

Any trained sniper would tell you the same. You are a disrespectful whore referring to scumbags who murder people for no reason as "snipers". Actual Snipers are trained professionals.

get back in your lane titswiggle.. or back in the fuckin kitchen and make some sammiches.

You are hardly the expert you believe yourself to be on any of these topics.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33337354


well, thank you for revealing yourself as being the little turd that you really are.
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Re: Manhunt for former LA Police Officer
Looking for more updates this morning, I came across this article which gives links to data dumps, dug up by a reporter.

If you are interested in reading any documentation related to his claims, here you go.

Legal analyst Robin Sax dug up 21 documents related to the instances of alleged police corruption that ex-LAPD officer Chris Dorner detailed in his online manifesto. Among the documents are Internal Affairs information, Court of Appeals documents and more.

Actual links here: [link to www.myfoxla.com]


DOCUMENTS: Deposition, Legal Papers Challenging LAPD


Dorner v LAPD Court Case

Petition for Writ of Mandamus (Robin says this is the document where Dorner asks the court to review LAPD's Board of Review's decision to terminate him):

Dorner v LAPD Apr2009

Dorner Board Selection Form

Dorner Application for Hearing LAPD

Dorner Power of Attorney

Dorner Board of Rights Time Waiver

Dorner Notice to Employee Representative

Dorner Substitution of Defense Counsel

Dorner Person Summary

Dorner LAPD Complaint Form

Dorner Interdepartmental Correspondence Jun2008

Dorner Interdepartmental Correspondence Oct2008

Dorner Addenda

Dorner Decision of the Board of Rights and Execution of the Order

Dorner Case Summary LA Sup Court

Dorner Board of Rights Appointment

Dorner Interdepartmental Correspondence Jul2008

Dorner Discovery Request Form

Appellate Court Decision:

Dorner v LAPD Appeal Oct2011

Other Documents:

Dorner v LAPD Attorney Change Oct2010

Dorner v LAPD Appeal Notice Aug2010

Dorner v City of Los Angeles Judgement
 Quoting: J&V


Are these the same documents that anon had posted?
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Where do you assholes come from..

No fuckstick.. that would be called an AMBUSH.

God damn dumb son of a bitch.

Snipers are officially trained by organizations and EARN the title.

You stupid fucking cunt.

God damn know it all cumstain.. best part of you ran down the crack of your mommas ass. Now shut the fuck up unless you can actually add factual information.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33337354


Sniper: A marksman who shoots at people from a concealed place.
Look up the many definitions in the dictionary, you fucking asshat. A sniper can lie in ambush. It can be both! OMG WHAT A REVELATION. Dont try to jag off and think about big-boy words at the same time, its too much for your level 70 IQ
 Quoting: BossBitch


There is only one definition cunt:

A sniper is a highly trained marksman who operates alone, in a pair, or with a team to maintain close visual contact with the enemy and engage targets from concealed positions or distances exceeding the detection capabilities of enemy personnel. These sniper teams operate independently, with little combat asset support from their parent units. Snipers typically have highly selective and specialized training and use high-precision rifles and optics, and often have sophisticated communication assets to feed valuable combat information back to their units.

There it is

Snipers are trained to do what they do.they are not some random shitbag that picks up a rifle and goes to shooting people.

Any trained sniper would tell you the same. You are a disrespectful whore referring to scumbags who murder people for no reason as "snipers". Actual Snipers are trained professionals.

get back in your lane titswiggle.. or back in the fuckin kitchen and make some sammiches.

You are hardly the expert you believe yourself to be on any of these topics.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33337354


well, thank you for revealing yourself as being the little turd that you really are.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33351085


Your opinion matters little in a factual debate.

If you think for some reason she deserves anything other than scorn for her ridiculous inferences, too bad.

The avatar pic of the scummy mexican hotel room not withstanding.

Taken before a pony show no doubt..
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Come on, folks...that was a great insult...the "pony show" especially
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Come on, folks...that was a great insult...the "pony show" especially
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Maybe its the low IQ's.. Has to be 70 or higher to "get it" I hear...
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Come on, folks...that was a great insult...the "pony show" especially
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Maybe its the low IQ's.. Has to be 70 or higher to "get it" I hear...
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I guess I qualify then..either that or it's a Tijuana flashback with some mule or something...regardless, all the commentators have moved to the other thread for some reason.
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You are truly a failed abortion.

Copy & Paste doesn't make other definitions disappear.

Show me a link from an expert authority on the English Language that says there is only one definition of the word "sniper".

You seem to believe YOU are the expert authority. Since we all know you are an expert at nothing except being a douchebag, provide the link or SHUT THE FUCK UP.

Last Edited by BossBitch on 02/10/2013 05:08 PM
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Come on, folks...that was a great insult...the "pony show" especially
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Maybe its the low IQ's.. Has to be 70 or higher to "get it" I hear...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33337354


I guess I qualify then..either that or it's a Tijuana flashback with some mule or something...regardless, all the commentators have moved to the other thread for some reason.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29948208


It might be due to the thread-killer that insists on proving his government sponsored killer training to a bunch of random people on the internet.
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You are truly a failed abortion.

Copy & Paste doesn't make other definitions disappear.

Show me a link from an expert authority on the English Language that says there is only one definition of the word "sniper".

You seem to believe YOU are the expert authority. Since we all know you are an expert at nothing except being a douchebag, provide the link or SHUT THE FUCK UP.
 Quoting: BossBitch

fwiw, he IS an expert authority on the Army definition of a sniper. You are correct in other aspects.
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Come on, folks...that was a great insult...the "pony show" especially
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29948208


Maybe its the low IQ's.. Has to be 70 or higher to "get it" I hear...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33337354


I guess I qualify then..either that or it's a Tijuana flashback with some mule or something...regardless, all the commentators have moved to the other thread for some reason.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29948208


It might be due to the thread-killer that insists on proving his government sponsored killer training to a bunch of random people on the internet.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18996623

Seems to me he's making a few valid points albeit from a "ground-pounder's" perspective.
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Maybe its the low IQ's.. Has to be 70 or higher to "get it" I hear...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33337354


I guess I qualify then..either that or it's a Tijuana flashback with some mule or something...regardless, all the commentators have moved to the other thread for some reason.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29948208


It might be due to the thread-killer that insists on proving his government sponsored killer training to a bunch of random people on the internet.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18996623

Seems to me he's making a few valid points albeit from a "ground-pounder's" perspective.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29948208


A few valid points, among pages of nit-picking other people's comments and instigating flame wars. Dropping military slang, acronyms, and stories of dick waving in Central American shitholes impresses nobody, take that shit to Arfcom.

He sure is easily perturbed for somebody with so much disciplined training and experience. No need to get panties in a bunch every time somebody says something that you disagree with online.

[link to xkcd.com]
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I guess I qualify then..either that or it's a Tijuana flashback with some mule or something...regardless, all the commentators have moved to the other thread for some reason.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29948208


It might be due to the thread-killer that insists on proving his government sponsored killer training to a bunch of random people on the internet.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18996623

Seems to me he's making a few valid points albeit from a "ground-pounder's" perspective.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29948208


A few valid points, among pages of nit-picking other people's comments and instigating flame wars. Dropping military slang, acronyms, and stories of dick waving in Central American shitholes impresses nobody, take that shit to Arfcom.

He sure is easily perturbed for somebody with so much disciplined training and experience. No need to get panties in a bunch every time somebody says something that you disagree with online.

[link to xkcd.com]
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he has a pretty good sense of humor, tho
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You are truly a failed abortion.

Copy & Paste doesn't make other definitions disappear.

Show me a link from an expert authority on the English Language that says there is only one definition of the word "sniper".

You seem to believe YOU are the expert authority. Since we all know you are an expert at nothing except being a douchebag, provide the link or SHUT THE FUCK UP.
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iamwith
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You are truly a failed abortion.

Copy & Paste doesn't make other definitions disappear.

Show me a link from an expert authority on the English Language that says there is only one definition of the word "sniper".

You seem to believe YOU are the expert authority. Since we all know you are an expert at nothing except being a douchebag, provide the link or SHUT THE FUCK UP.
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Spanks me....pleaseeee?
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Here is a link to his "manifesto". This reads like a "good guy done wrong so he wants revenge story"

[link to hiphopandpolitics.wordpress.com]
 Quoting: Macraider


Yeah..if you believe a homicidal maniac...man he spun this crap so well..he weaved truth with lies to make himself look like a freaking martyr..oh please..perpetual f@#$%& victim !

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