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If God didn't assemble atoms Mr Darwin, who did.... the Atomic Faries Chuck?

 
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Re: If God didn't assemble atoms Mr Darwin, who did.... the Atomic Faries Chuck?
This is most amusing, as Darwin has nothing to do with atoms, and atoms don't actually exist, at least not in a way that would involve "assembling".
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So if atoms aren't deliberately assembled, how do explain the numerical pattern of this?


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lets just face it, it all happened like THIS


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Oh..... I like simple answers.... prevents more questions.blink
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Re: If God didn't assemble atoms Mr Darwin, who did.... the Atomic Faries Chuck?
Hey there, I'm a real live nuclear physicist, and I can tell you that atoms are not real, and god certainly didn't assemble them. As far as I can tell neither got nor atom 'exist' in the 'reality as we know it'.

Both god and atoms are merely models that describe the behavior of a system we don't understand. The god model is very nice because it requires very little thinking or participation from the user (believer). E.G. Q: how does chemistry work to produce a poison or a medicine? A: God will heal you, and works 'in mysterious ways' or conversely A: There are many different atoms and molecules that we can differentiate between, and lucky for you we know that some are more or less toxic then others and some might even help you in X, Y and Z ways.

The atom model is more difficult, it requires much more thought, critical thinking, logic and working memory. The chemistry model is also very powerful, results occour in 'real' reality and are repeatable. The god models is easy, because you only have to remember the one answer that works for all cases. The god model is also very weak, there is no effect of merely believing in an outcome, regardless of what you measure.

Of course no one is going to force you to learn chemistry, physics or math, and that's fine, if your model of the universe does not include science, calculus, logic etc, then you'll just have to get by with out it.
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How do you know there isn't a spirit being who created all? Things just don't show up. Everything has a builder/maker.

God is pure energy with a personality. He is said to have no beginning nor no end. Just like energy. We know energy doesn't have a beginning and it cannot be destroyed. Wrap you mind around that. And God is so much more.

Talk to God even though you don't believe in Him and I bet you will get messages from Him in one way or another. He knows you better than you know yourself and can help and guide you in so many ways. Test Him out. He wants you to.
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Re: If God didn't assemble atoms Mr Darwin, who did.... the Atomic Faries Chuck?
@DGN I'd love to explain things to you but looking at your threads I just have to shake my head and remember the quote

You can't cure stupid.
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DGN is not stupid. It is the one who sees this marvelous planet and universe and even ourselves and cannot see that there is a maker for it all. Nothing just shows up.
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Re: If God didn't assemble atoms Mr Darwin, who did.... the Atomic Faries Chuck?

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I wanted to let you know I'm glad of your relentless persistence in posting these Darwin attacking threads. There's always something interesting going on inside them.

i'm not a christian, but interested in it for my own reasons. I just read Aquinas' 5 proofs of god, and really dug it.

I read a lot of books, writings by various scientists and they are often claiming to be figuring out the mechanisms and chemicals and how any day we will be as god.

I had the thought- there's nothing new under the sun... that even if we DO figure it all out, we still won't be doing it with anything that wasn't already here long before us, for reasons we have no clue about. We merely replicating, or reorganizing the same stuff that God? gave us in the first place.

Nobody can make anything with anything that God didn't already make first.
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And that is no one will ever be like Almighty God or ever be God. We don't create anything. We manipulate what we have already been given.
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Re: If God didn't assemble atoms Mr Darwin, who did.... the Atomic Faries Chuck?
The laws of physics fucking assembled them. Your vision of an impotent universe that can't wipe its own ass without being micromanaged is insanely stupid.
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Where did these laws come from? Where did the energy come from that made these atoms? God is energy. He is where everything comes from. And God doesn't micromanage anything. He sets things into motion. He sees the end of something even before its beginning.
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the possibility is endless ....
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What's just one?
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Re: If God didn't assemble atoms Mr Darwin, who did.... the Atomic Faries Chuck?
This is most amusing, as Darwin has nothing to do with atoms, and atoms don't actually exist, at least not in a way that would involve "assembling".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 904314


So if atoms aren't deliberately assembled, how do explain the numerical pattern of this?


 Quoting: DGN


lets just face it, it all happened like THIS


 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


Oh..... I like simple answers.... prevents more questions.blink
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To many questions, to many answers and, the next thing ya know;
"That is also why we, from the day we heard [of it], have not ceased praying for YOU and asking that YOU may be filled with the accurate knowledge of his will in all wisdom and spiritual comprehension, 10 in order to walk worthily of Jehovah to the end of fully pleasing [him] as YOU go on bearing fruit in every good work and increasing in the accurate knowledge of God, 11 being made powerful with all power to the extent of his glorious might so as to endure fully and be long-suffering with joy, 12 thanking the Father who rendered YOU suitable for YOUR participation in the inheritance of the holy ones in the light.
13 He delivered us from the authority of the darkness and transferred us into the kingdom of the Son of his love, 14 by means of whom we have our release by ransom, the forgiveness of our sins. 15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation; 16 because by means of him all [other] things were created in the heavens and upon the earth, the things visible and the things invisible, no matter whether they are thrones or lordships or governments or authorities. All [other] things have been created through him and for him. 17 Also, he is before all [other] things and by means of him all [other] things were made to exist, 18 and he is the head of the body, the congregation. He is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead, that he might become the one who is first in all things; 19 because [God] saw good for all fullness to dwell in him, 20 and through him to reconcile again to himself all [other] things by making peace through the blood [he shed] on the torture stake, no matter whether they are the things upon the earth or the things in the heavens." Col1:9
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Re: If God didn't assemble atoms Mr Darwin, who did.... the Atomic Faries Chuck?
Atom's aren't leggos. They don't need an atomic fairy (AKA god) to assemble them.
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Re: If God didn't assemble atoms Mr Darwin, who did.... the Atomic Faries Chuck?
This is most amusing, as Darwin has nothing to do with atoms, and atoms don't actually exist, at least not in a way that would involve "assembling".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 904314


So if atoms aren't deliberately assembled, how do explain the numerical pattern of this?


 Quoting: DGN


lets just face it, it all happened like THIS


 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


That second video does sum up the creationist view pretty nicely.
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Re: If God didn't assemble atoms Mr Darwin, who did.... the Atomic Faries Chuck?
This is most amusing, as Darwin has nothing to do with atoms, and atoms don't actually exist, at least not in a way that would involve "assembling".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 904314


So if atoms aren't deliberately assembled, how do explain the numerical pattern of this?


 Quoting: DGN


lets just face it, it all happened like THIS


 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


That second video does sum up the creationist view pretty nicely.
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Creationists present mathematical/chemical evidence of deliberate design. What do you have to deny it? This?


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So if atoms aren't deliberately assembled, how do explain the numerical pattern of this?


 Quoting: DGN


lets just face it, it all happened like THIS


 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


That second video does sum up the creationist view pretty nicely.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28948108


Creationists present mathematical/chemical evidence of deliberate design. What do you have to deny it? This?

 Quoting: DGN


Just because there is symmetry in science and nature doesn't mean that we need to invent magic sky wizards to explain said symmetry. Whenever I see a snowflake I don't think "OMG! What magic elf created THAT!?"

You and your atomic fairy (god) can shove it.
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lets just face it, it all happened like THIS


 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


That second video does sum up the creationist view pretty nicely.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28948108


Creationists present mathematical/chemical evidence of deliberate design. What do you have to deny it? This?

 Quoting: DGN


Just because there is symmetry in science and nature doesn't mean that we need to invent magic sky wizards to explain said symmetry. Whenever I see a snowflake I don't think "OMG! What magic elf created THAT!?"

You and your atomic fairy (god) can shove it.
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A fine expression of identifying different levels of physics in action.
blink
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That second video does sum up the creationist view pretty nicely.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28948108


Creationists present mathematical/chemical evidence of deliberate design. What do you have to deny it? This?

 Quoting: DGN


Just because there is symmetry in science and nature doesn't mean that we need to invent magic sky wizards to explain said symmetry. Whenever I see a snowflake I don't think "OMG! What magic elf created THAT!?"

You and your atomic fairy (god) can shove it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28948108


A fine expression of identifying different levels of physics in action.
blink
 Quoting: DGN


TLDR

Yes there is balance in nature, doesn't mean there was a creator.
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lets just face it, it all happened like THIS


 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


That second video does sum up the creationist view pretty nicely.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28948108


Creationists present mathematical/chemical evidence of deliberate design. What do you have to deny it? This?

 Quoting: DGN


Just because there is symmetry in science and nature doesn't mean that we need to invent magic sky wizards to explain said symmetry. Whenever I see a snowflake I don't think "OMG! What magic elf created THAT!?"

You and your atomic fairy (god) can shove it.
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actually, you would be amazed at what elves can do
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Creationists present mathematical/chemical evidence of deliberate design. What do you have to deny it? This?

 Quoting: DGN


Just because there is symmetry in science and nature doesn't mean that we need to invent magic sky wizards to explain said symmetry. Whenever I see a snowflake I don't think "OMG! What magic elf created THAT!?"

You and your atomic fairy (god) can shove it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28948108


A fine expression of identifying different levels of physics in action.
blink
 Quoting: DGN


TLDR

Yes there is balance in nature, doesn't mean there was a creator.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28948108


I know, it could all be random chance times a billion. Like these imaginary men balancing things here right?


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Just because there is symmetry in science and nature doesn't mean that we need to invent magic sky wizards to explain said symmetry. Whenever I see a snowflake I don't think "OMG! What magic elf created THAT!?"

You and your atomic fairy (god) can shove it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28948108


A fine expression of identifying different levels of physics in action.
blink
 Quoting: DGN


TLDR

Yes there is balance in nature, doesn't mean there was a creator.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28948108


I know, it could all be random chance times a billion. Like these imaginary men balancing things here right?
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You are the one proposing imaginary men.
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Creationists present mathematical/chemical evidence of deliberate design. What do you have to deny it? This?

 Quoting: DGN


Just because there is symmetry in science and nature doesn't mean that we need to invent magic sky wizards to explain said symmetry. Whenever I see a snowflake I don't think "OMG! What magic elf created THAT!?"

You and your atomic fairy (god) can shove it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28948108


A fine expression of identifying different levels of physics in action.
blink
 Quoting: DGN


TLDR

Yes there is balance in nature, doesn't mean there was a creator.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28948108


Is the fluid in your inner ear that give you equilibrium intelligently designed or just a haphazard accident?


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Re: If God didn't assemble atoms Mr Darwin, who did.... the Atomic Faries Chuck?
Maybe God should attend art school and learn how to assemble atoms.
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