SHABBAT SHALOM! THE LUNAR SHABBAT DEBUNKED! IT IS NOT IN ACCORDANCE WITH CREATION! BROKEN DOWN FOR YOU IN 7 PARTS

That wasn't even funny...

Thx for reward

long ago before the24 hour clock the worlr time recorded by the heavenly order was in 18 parts which today has been recalculated as an hour =60 mins in order to facilitate there 24 hour cycle.


Recorded from the book of enoch chapter 72 how the months are changed and the shift in daytime hours and night hours are measured

And this is the first law of the luminaries: the luminary the Sun has its rising in the eastern portals of the heaven,

3 and its setting in the western portals of the heaven. And I saw six portals in which the sun rises, and six portals in which the sun sets and the moon rises and sets in these portals, and the leaders of the stars and those whom they lead: six in the east and six in the west, and all following each other

4 in accurately corresponding order: also many windows to the right and left of these portals. And first there goes forth the great luminary, named the Sun, and his circumference is like the

5 circumference of the heaven, and he is quite filled with illuminating and heating fire. The chariot on which he ascends, the wind drives, and the sun goes down from the heaven and returns through the north in order to reach the east, and is so guided that he comes to the appropriate (lit. that ) portal and

6 shines in the face of the heaven. In this way he rises in the first month in the great portal, which

7 is the fourth [those six portals in the cast]. And in that fourth portal from which the sun rises in the first month are twelve window-openings, from which proceed a flame when they are opened in

8 their season. When the sun rises in the heaven, he comes forth through that fourth portal thirty,
9 mornings in succession, and sets accurately in the fourth portal in the west of the heaven. And during this period the day becomes daily longer and the night nightly shorter to the thirtieth

10 morning. On that day the day is longer than the night by a ninth part, and the day amounts exactly to ten parts and the night to eight parts. And the sun rises from that fourth portal, and sets in the fourth and returns to the fifth portal of the east thirty mornings, and rises from it and sets in the fifth

12 portal. And then the day becomes longer by two parts and amounts to eleven parts, and the night

13 becomes shorter and amounts to seven parts. And it returns to the east and enters into the sixth

14 portal, and rises and sets in the sixth portal one-and-thirty mornings on account of its sign. On that day the day becomes longer than the night, and the day becomes double the night, and the day 15 becomes twelve parts, and the night is shortened and becomes six parts.

Last Edited by Neim-Ya'shar on 02/08/2013 02:59 AM

Your title is very wrong.
The article doesn't say that a day is 18hours long and not 24 hours, it says that 900 millions years ago, a day was 18 hours long.
Because as the rotation of the earth is more and more slow, days are longer than before.
In 900 millions years, a day will be probably 30 hours long.

That is why i am explaining parts and hours it is really 18parts and it is is proven in the book od enoch. Ipart was more than just 60 mins,

WE WERE ANLY MADE A 24 CYCLE IN THE 1800S BUT THIS IS HOW TIME WAS MEASURED BY THE SEASONS

and thank you for your input.I am trying to make us think

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The problem with the op's original post is that it includes the false notion that humanity visited the moon. The whole thing is therefor preposterous.

we are going to get to the bottom of this look and see..Think a little

time was reset when our current moon arrived during the time of atlantis. that was why, they were cramming to make various calendars to measure the cosmic cycles.

I am already done breaing it down I will post it in another article also debunking the lunar shabbat

well here is you answer check out the whole thread again

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Quote: "I need a briLlant mathematition to start calculating based on an 18hr day how much will each hour be inflated in minutes to make up the 6 hrs"

I am no brillant mathematition but I do like some math stuff. Here's my deductions...

Using a 60 minute equals 1 hr....
24 hrs equals 1440 minutes.
18 hrs equals 1080 minutes.
6 hrs equals 360 minutes.

Take 360 divide by 18 to come up with....

20 minutes added to each hour of the 18 makes for...

An 18 hr day has an hour time of 80 minutes.

A 24 hr day has an hour time of 60 minutes.

So any brillant mathematition want to tell me if I'm correct as I know I am nowhere near brillant or even good at math.

thank you I got that answer but i needed to be sure ..you are brilliant

so you get todays golden award

Thank you but that was too easy for me to accept an award for it. I really didn't even try on that. Save my award for when I really do something deserving of one.

I am very interested in your thoughts on the calendar. I have been looking for the correct Sabbath Day. I feel like it's very important for me to know it and keep it. I think it's the 'mark' of Yahweh. And that's the one I'm looking for.

So you do not think it's the moons?

I have read Enoch. I need to re-read it. I can see that I missed that or do not remember it. Great info, thank you for it.

its ok I have a diamond award also..thank you

if you read through the thread you will se how to calculae and prove that is always from friday to saturday sunset.
The shabbat day is always the the last day of adar when there is equalday and equal night which you can verify by clicking on the link below.

Then the new year starts on the first day of the week..IT never goes of track like the lunar shabbat which changes the days,


WHAT AM I LEADING TO IS YOU WILL SEE THAT GOD HAS EVERYTHING IN ORDER AND HOW THE SHABBAT IS NOT DETERMINED BY A FULL MOON BUT IS CONSTANT WITH THE TURNING OF THE SEASONAL NEW YEAR AND CONTINUES IN SEQUENCE



Month Adar 31 days based on scriptures enoch February-March
Enoch chapter 72:30

And on that day the sun rises from that portal, and sets in the west, and returns to the east, and rises in the third portal for one-and-thirty mornings, and sets in the west of the heaven.32

On that day the night decreases and amounts to nine parts, and the day to nine parts, and the night is equal to the day and the year is exactly as to its days three hundred and sixty-four. And the length of the day and of the night, and the shortness of the day and of the night arise-through the course

31 days {happens only twice in a year beginning of the month equal day equal night}
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We have equal days and equal night occuring at the end of the month Adar and this is the last month of the hebrew calender going into the new year month of Nissan.


5:48AM AND 5:48PM ON MARCH 16TH 2013

Now I will give you a link to calculate yourself the time of equal Night and Day for the month of march since ADAR ends in March. I used ISRAEL but you can do what ever state you are in

[link to www.timeanddate.com]


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The true equinox is Gods time on the 17th March is the first day of the new year.The shabbat notice is the 16th march the day of equal day and eaual night. The new year of spring begins at the setting of the sun on march 16th into the new day march 17th after sunset which starts the first day of the week.Is this coincidence? NO

The holy father ended his work on the shabbat and geve us the day after as the first day.
HE CREATED EVERYTHING IN THIS ORDER LIKE WE SEE THE YEAR ENDS ON THE SHABBAT AND THE NEW YEAR STARTS ON THE FIRST DAY. NOW YOU CAN COUNT THE DAYS TO THE SHABBAT ALWAYS FROM THE FIRST DAY OF THE HEBREW NEW YEAR AND IT WILL BE THE SEVENTH DAY

NOW YOU CAN TAKE THIS INFORMATION AND CALCULATE ANY YEAR AND YOU WILL ALWAYS GET THE WEEKLY SHABBAT BEING IN GOD'S CYCLE ON THE SEVENTH DAY BASED ON ENOCH'S DESCRIPTION AND EVEN SCIENCE CONFIRMED THIS FACT

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So when is Shabbat? :)

on fridays sunset to saturday sunset!

Once you understand creation and the only two days in the year with equal day and equal nights,This happens the day before the vernal equinox. it always is a shabbat and the vernal equinox is always the 1st day of the week also.

So to confirm the shabbat day is always on friday just count from the ist day of the year.THE SEVEN DAY CYCLE FRO 52 WEEKS IT STAYS THE SAME.Please check the information it is well documented

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Shabbat Shalom Ahch, and Qam Yasharahla!!!

shabat shalom akhot BARAK AHTHAH

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Barak atha 2 Ahch

great post

So dear brother, please make it simpler for those who use current western calender. This means that Friday evening to Saturday evening is always Shabbat/Sabbath.

Blessings in YHVH/YAHshua.

Thats a question by the way, thank you.

yes you can use the link and put in your zone and test it for yourself.ADAR IS THE LAST MONTH OF THE YEAR WHICH IS FEBRUARY-MARCH.

So put in the month of march and see which day the sun rise and the sunset are equal.

When you get that day you have established the day before the vernal equinox.

The day after the sunset is the new year



the proof her is that the day before the new year always falls on the shabbat and the new year is always the firt day of the week.


This is contnuous through out the 52 week cycle and counting from the ist day it is evident that the seventh day cycle is correct..

seven is completion and that is why the year ends on the shabbat

God satarted work creation on the first day! that is why the year starts on the first day


So this is vital proof of our creator and that we should stay on his clock

Last Edited by Neim-Ya'shar on 02/09/2013 08:14 AM

The Op is on point with this because in following the instructions from Enoch it does mention the two days in the year that has equal day and equal time. The article on the equinox from readers digest confirms this also, so I am thankful for this OP and I hope many others. Shalom Achi