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HOW TO DEAL WITH THE MENTALLY ILL IN A FREE SOCIETY?

 
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I have a box, and I need to get it to the sun.

Ok let's start over...

I have a box.
It's full of retards.
and I need to get it to the sun.

Somebody call FedEx.

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Narcissistic Personality Disorder: Symptoms

1. They have an exaggerated view of their achievements and talents; there is absolutely no limit to their sense of self-importance.
"The economy is recovering, jobs are being created."

2. They are constantly preoccupied with fantasies of beauty, ideal love, power, brilliance, and even unlimited success.
“Change will not come if we wait for some other person or some other time. We are the ones we’ve been waiting for. We are the change that we seek.”

3. They think and believe that they alone are special and unique, and that they must be given an opportunity to interact with people of high-status and special institutions.

Elite? New World Order?

4. Lacks empathy; is unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others.

Elite?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33768594


the Idea of Time has not caught up to the visions and ideas of a select few. What is perceived as an illusion of insanity can and does become every day life.
 Quoting: Nlightened


delusion is simply speaking from a point of reference that no longer cares to be confirmed. This is a beautiful thing when used properly because it becomes alchemy. The issue lies in not living in this energy but trying to go to in as needed while still maintaining the illusion of being here

Some of us simply are both places at the same time and can do it while awake. Otherwise you do it in your sleep...
 Quoting: acegotflows


Here is never in the same place twice or seen by more than 1 person. Existence is only a perspective in what one can see through the existence of oneself.

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Narcissistic Personality Disorder: Symptoms

1. They have an exaggerated view of their achievements and talents; there is absolutely no limit to their sense of self-importance.
"The economy is recovering, jobs are being created."

2. They are constantly preoccupied with fantasies of beauty, ideal love, power, brilliance, and even unlimited success.
“Change will not come if we wait for some other person or some other time. We are the ones we’ve been waiting for. We are the change that we seek.”

3. They think and believe that they alone are special and unique, and that they must be given an opportunity to interact with people of high-status and special institutions.

Elite? New World Order?

4. Lacks empathy; is unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others.

Elite?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33768594


the Idea of Time has not caught up to the visions and ideas of a select few. What is perceived as an illusion of insanity can and does become every day life.
 Quoting: Nlightened


delusion is simply speaking from a point of reference that no longer cares to be confirmed. This is a beautiful thing when used properly because it becomes alchemy. The issue lies in not living in this energy but trying to go to in as needed while still maintaining the illusion of being here

Some of us simply are both places at the same time and can do it while awake. Otherwise you do it in your sleep...
 Quoting: acegotflows


Here is never in the same place twice or seen by more than 1 person. Existence is only a perspective in what one can see through the existence of oneself.
 Quoting: Nlightened


you are still thinking that plurals exist... That is your bondage... Plurals are an agreement of form and function...
"a foundation built on lies is always bound to crumble and those who aren't humble shall tumble to the earth"
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the Idea of Time has not caught up to the visions and ideas of a select few. What is perceived as an illusion of insanity can and does become every day life.
 Quoting: Nlightened


delusion is simply speaking from a point of reference that no longer cares to be confirmed. This is a beautiful thing when used properly because it becomes alchemy. The issue lies in not living in this energy but trying to go to in as needed while still maintaining the illusion of being here

Some of us simply are both places at the same time and can do it while awake. Otherwise you do it in your sleep...
 Quoting: acegotflows


Here is never in the same place twice or seen by more than 1 person. Existence is only a perspective in what one can see through the existence of oneself.
 Quoting: Nlightened


you are still thinking that plurals exist... That is your bondage... Plurals are an agreement of form and function...
 Quoting: acegotflows


I exist within I. But you exist within you.
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If our society was free. there would be no mentally ill. Only free spirited happy creative and exciting people contributing with their individual uniqueness.
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delusion is simply speaking from a point of reference that no longer cares to be confirmed. This is a beautiful thing when used properly because it becomes alchemy. The issue lies in not living in this energy but trying to go to in as needed while still maintaining the illusion of being here

Some of us simply are both places at the same time and can do it while awake. Otherwise you do it in your sleep...
 Quoting: acegotflows


Here is never in the same place twice or seen by more than 1 person. Existence is only a perspective in what one can see through the existence of oneself.
 Quoting: Nlightened


you are still thinking that plurals exist... That is your bondage... Plurals are an agreement of form and function...
 Quoting: acegotflows


I exist within I. But you exist within you.
 Quoting: Nlightened


I is a personalized holding cell in the construct. It's like speaking through an avatar. I'm this, I that... you are nothing. I am nothing Why? because I cannot exist whole and complete without you. That is why the illusion still makes you pick sides... you can simply not fight...
"a foundation built on lies is always bound to crumble and those who aren't humble shall tumble to the earth"
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If our society was free. there would be no mentally ill. Only free spirited happy creative and exciting people contributing with their individual uniqueness.
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it will be open and free when the new bodies come into play. Being will be able to have more creative design. This is what the hologram construct is supposed to teach us when not used for the beings that just want to live off our energies
"a foundation built on lies is always bound to crumble and those who aren't humble shall tumble to the earth"
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If our society was free. there would be no mentally ill. Only free spirited happy creative and exciting people contributing with their individual uniqueness.
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it will be open and free when the new bodies come into play. Being will be able to have more creative design. This is what the hologram construct is supposed to teach us when not used for the beings that just want to live off our energies
 Quoting: acegotflows


At the moment, the beings who want to live of our energies are winning. They managed to keep the veil over the minds of the new bodies and made it denser.
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If our society was free. there would be no mentally ill. Only free spirited happy creative and exciting people contributing with their individual uniqueness.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33768594


it will be open and free when the new bodies come into play. Being will be able to have more creative design. This is what the hologram construct is supposed to teach us when not used for the beings that just want to live off our energies
 Quoting: acegotflows


There is a push and pull effect between ones being raised up to heal society/humanity and ones suppressing the awakening.
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If our society was free. there would be no mentally ill. Only free spirited happy creative and exciting people contributing with their individual uniqueness.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33768594


it will be open and free when the new bodies come into play. Being will be able to have more creative design. This is what the hologram construct is supposed to teach us when not used for the beings that just want to live off our energies
 Quoting: acegotflows


At the moment, the beings who want to live of our energies are winning. They managed to keep the veil over the minds of the new bodies and made it denser.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33768594


this is a partial epiphany. You still are not acknowledging that they are doing exactly what they are doing by program. you still think that they have a choice. You have a choice, that is why they don't like you. They lost the right
"a foundation built on lies is always bound to crumble and those who aren't humble shall tumble to the earth"
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If our society was free. there would be no mentally ill. Only free spirited happy creative and exciting people contributing with their individual uniqueness.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33768594


it will be open and free when the new bodies come into play. Being will be able to have more creative design. This is what the hologram construct is supposed to teach us when not used for the beings that just want to live off our energies
 Quoting: acegotflows


At the moment, the beings who want to live of our energies are winning. They managed to keep the veil over the minds of the new bodies and made it denser.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33768594


this is a partial epiphany. You still are not acknowledging that they are doing exactly what they are doing by program. you still think that they have a choice. You have a choice, that is why they don't like you. They lost the right
 Quoting: acegotflows


How did they lose the right?
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We use to have a system which dealt with the mentally ill just fine. That was before the Kennedys decided that all mentally ill deserved a right to be FREE... like most things liberals do they really were heartless and cruel, but boy the symbolism of how much they cared by opening the doors to the mental hospitals sure looked good like they really did care. But what happened was a reverse affect many had no where to go, no supervision, no familys, no idea how to deal with life outside the walls of the places they had lived. Reagan went along with the Kennedy plan but even he was wrong in many ways. Many had no idea how to get around how to shop how to pay bills how to cook their meals .. it was a debachle. Then along came the ponytailed wire rimmed glass wearing academics who called themselves psyciatrists, afraid to even say the word retarded.. the mentally ill have been the last part of our society to get the help and true caring medical attention they needed.

There is no real mental health treatment. NO doctors of any use.. but boy we can pump those anti depressants out like crazy flush them down peoples throats then sit back and watch the fire works.

Use to beable to have someone locked up and treated if they did something which would hurt others or themselves. that was long ago in the 'good ole days" when society was normal.
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it will be open and free when the new bodies come into play. Being will be able to have more creative design. This is what the hologram construct is supposed to teach us when not used for the beings that just want to live off our energies
 Quoting: acegotflows


At the moment, the beings who want to live of our energies are winning. They managed to keep the veil over the minds of the new bodies and made it denser.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33768594


this is a partial epiphany. You still are not acknowledging that they are doing exactly what they are doing by program. you still think that they have a choice. You have a choice, that is why they don't like you. They lost the right
 Quoting: acegotflows


How did they lose the right?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33768594


because they decides to start tweaking the design of us for selfish reasons and not the greater good of the universal being as a whole
"a foundation built on lies is always bound to crumble and those who aren't humble shall tumble to the earth"
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Wall off a section of a city and make them live there by themselves. Then make a movie about it called Escape from Crazy Town.
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At the moment, the beings who want to live of our energies are winning. They managed to keep the veil over the minds of the new bodies and made it denser.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33768594


this is a partial epiphany. You still are not acknowledging that they are doing exactly what they are doing by program. you still think that they have a choice. You have a choice, that is why they don't like you. They lost the right
 Quoting: acegotflows


How did they lose the right?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33768594


because they decides to start tweaking the design of us for selfish reasons and not the greater good of the universal being as a whole
 Quoting: acegotflows


They have a choice to stop and to do good. They accumulated a lot of bad karma and the road out of it will be long and very painful, but forget about the road out of it if they continue their manipulation.
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Wall off a section of a city and make them live there by themselves. Then make a movie about it called Escape from Crazy Town.
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We need to make that wall around the white house and wall street.
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In my opinion, I think we should stop trying to figure out solutions for every single perceived problem that crosses our path. Life is dangerous. What happened to that ancient knowledge?

If we keep it up, we're going to become very lazy humans.

As if it's not bad enough already.

Can you imagine the pile of rules and new laws that are going to be plaguing us in ten or twenty years if we keep this up?

ugh
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mentally ill applies it can be cured, but all the meds they sell are to be taken indefinately unless you wanna try a different regimen of INDEFINITE pills,
basically those of us with severe social handicaps or mental malfunctions are the Jew of the 21st century to most Doctors of the field, alot of the laws that applied in the 90s got psychiacted or patriot act like nullifies, like the ability to check out of a hospital on ones own recognizance and the ability to refuse medication, its shitty, they need more rights not more stigma
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..well we have a problem with the fact that Psychology is an academic and applied discipline..not a science. Yet we allow it to be given science standing to often. You and I can see a poor soul standing in the middle of the street,talking to his invisible friends/tormentors and agree we cannot allow him to be a danger to himself or others. We could also agree that he needs to housed,fed.."treated" ( I know that creeps me out also)...I know the horrors of meds and other treatments..I also know of great success for others. That's why it's a odd pseudo science. We cannot, for humane reason alone, allow the mentally ill to starve and live a hellish life nor can we lock up oddballs. There is a unknown percentage we can help lead a independent life and some need to be housed. It should be a legal proceeding, open to the public with the PERSON's best interest at the heart of the proceeding. This will cost money,however we pay a great price now in petty crime, drug overdoses and unpaid hospital stays etc etc. The crazy cat lady is not a concern. The crazy lady eating cats is.
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I don't know what FREE SOCIETY you're referring too.

The 'mentally ill' are just as functional as you normal folk. In fact, we're able to connect and function with eachother very quickly. We know what eachother are going through. All of us are all facing a world that is against us, but we being the mentally ill see this more often than a stable human being whom is apt to play into intricacies of our broken society.

It devastates us to know we must conform or change ourselves to succeed; to be considered normal. We lose hope. As early as childhood; the child swinging alone already contemplating our complex society concurrently being ostracized for being different.

We choose our routes to cope, some more drastic than others. Most are self-destructive and harmless to others. The consequences of our methods coping become irrelevant as the world becomes a living hell.

Our 'free society' is broken, thus we are broken. This society is not our natural state. Sadly, humanity will never achieve this state again except for a few small sects left in the world.

So the question is, how do we deal with YOUR SYSTEM?
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Wall off a section of a city and make them live there by themselves. Then make a movie about it called Escape from Crazy Town.
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We need to make that wall around the white house and wall street.
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Is that the prelude to FEMA camps???
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We use to have a system which dealt with the mentally ill just fine. That was before the Kennedys decided that all mentally ill deserved a right to be FREE... like most things liberals do they really were heartless and cruel, but boy the symbolism of how much they cared by opening the doors to the mental hospitals sure looked good like they really did care. But what happened was a reverse affect many had no where to go, no supervision, no familys, no idea how to deal with life outside the walls of the places they had lived. Reagan went along with the Kennedy plan but even he was wrong in many ways. Many had no idea how to get around how to shop how to pay bills how to cook their meals .. it was a debachle. Then along came the ponytailed wire rimmed glass wearing academics who called themselves psyciatrists, afraid to even say the word retarded.. the mentally ill have been the last part of our society to get the help and true caring medical attention they needed.

There is no real mental health treatment. NO doctors of any use.. but boy we can pump those anti depressants out like crazy flush them down peoples throats then sit back and watch the fire works.

Use to beable to have someone locked up and treated if they did something which would hurt others or themselves. that was long ago in the 'good ole days" when society was normal.
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He tells the truth here!
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So lately there has been a lot of talk because of the recent shootings about the mentally ill and the mentally ill having access to firearms.

I have heard many pundits, many glpers, many everyday people talking about this, yet no one really has any solutions.

I make this thread under the assumption we all or at least most of us wish to live in a free society. With that said, how in a free society do we prevent or lower the chances of a mentally ill person obtaining a firearm? We can't go around involuntarily committing people we "suspect" may be mentally unstable.

Plus it starts to get shaky when we try and define mentally unstable and who should define this? Plus the meds we give the mentally ill generally have negative psychological effects. Potentially making a bad situation worse.

Is there a way to tackle this problem without violating peoples civil rights? Without doping everyone we suspect to be mentally ill into a drug induced coma? Also without restricting gun rights?

What do you all think?
 Quoting: *HEISENBERG*


You pose some very excellent questions. I am sure there will be a lot of ad hoc ways in which the govt. will try to mitigate "the situation".
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THERE IS NO MENTAL ILLNESS - GET RID OF SHRINKS...
THEN NO MORE GANG STALKNG
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I know of about 7 spirit/soul modalities that have a lot of support and websites.
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You mention 7 different options, but only identified 5 (EFT, Polar Dynamics, Resolution of Mind, Root Healing, Sedona Method). I'm interested in knowing what the other two are.
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awww damn, this thread was pinned literally 5 mins after I got offline and went home.

lol

Oh well, it looks like you all carried the conversation along just fine!

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