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Suspicious Photojournalism Sandy Hook Coverage

 
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Four photographers somehow managed to capture an identical shot. This is proof that we are being deceived.

[link to sandyhooktruth.wordpress.com]
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5 Stars.

This photo, along with the one of Carlee Soto on the phone clutching her chest, has become probably THE most famous photo of the event. I find it curious that it just so happens that this photo is of the parents of a slain child. Totally suspicious.
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Very good points..

This video which someone posted as a reply is spot on as well:

[link to youtu.be]

That check in sign is a huge red flag!!!!
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I don't think this proves too much at all, a few photographers might congregate together and, once someone starts showing a bit of emotion, they click away at the same time.

Photos from the same photographer might be posted in two papers but attributed to different people.

The tweet time means nothing, that is just the time of the tweet, not when the photo was taken.

Do not mistake my post for defending the official story, I don't believe anyone was shot at all, but that site tries to claim it was all filmed in a studio or at a different site which I consider to be rubbish.

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Short video summary.
[link to www.youtube.com]
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its staged or photoshoped one of the images has a tree the rest do not
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I don't think this proves too much at all, a few photographers might congregate together and, once someone starts showing a bit of emotion, they click away at the same time.

Photos from the same photographer might be posted in two papers but attributed to different people.

The tweet time means nothing, that is just the time of the tweet, not when the photo was taken.

Do not mistake my post for defending the official story, I don't believe anyone was shot at all, but that site tries to claim it was all filmed in a studio or at a different site which I consider to be rubbish.
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I want some of what you're smoking.
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Well, God bless the holiday conscious fire department at Sandy Hook.

Never let it be said that something as minor as a national tragedy....(as staged as it might have been).....is going to keep them from getting into the holiday spirit.

When the story broke that morning, at a time when the news was still reporting Ryan Lanza might have done the shooting, one can clearly see the embarrassing pictures of the fire station without Christmas light decorations. See link @ 0.02
[link to www.youtube.com]


Evidently, they discovered their social faux pas, and found the time in their busy day to hang some holiday lights. John Orr from CBS reports.
See @ 13.47 of this clip.
[link to www.youtube.com]


God bless us everyone.
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[link to vimeo.com]

Check out the teen with the curly hair standing in front of Veronique Posner. Is he directing the girl with him to get out of the way of the shot?

Starting at about 3:48.

Also, is that Mrs. Barden starting at about 4:17 who is falling to her knees? Whoever is it, the footage is taken from the same spot as Posner and the McDonnells

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I think the drill explains the footage of the chase "in the woods". Its an interesting coincidence that the chopper happened to catch the whole thing. And, afterwards, they had a convenient story: It was Chris Manfredonia that was going to make gingerbread houses with his daughter. His name even showed up early on on a fake radio scanner clip. Of course, we know this couldn't have been him since this footage was probably taken at around noon.
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It's weird that all the pictures from that day that were aired on tv all just so happen to be of the victims families. Like they already knew who the deceased were
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Well, God bless the holiday conscious fire department at Sandy Hook.

Never let it be said that something as minor as a national tragedy....(as staged as it might have been).....is going to keep them from getting into the holiday spirit.

When the story broke that morning, at a time when the news was still reporting Ryan Lanza might have done the shooting, one can clearly see the embarrassing pictures of the fire station without Christmas light decorations. See link @ 0.02
[link to www.youtube.com]


Evidently, they discovered their social faux pas, and found the time in their busy day to hang some holiday lights. John Orr from CBS reports.
See @ 13.47 of this clip.
[link to www.youtube.com]


God bless us everyone.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1922136


amazing
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Well, God bless the holiday conscious fire department at Sandy Hook.

Never let it be said that something as minor as a national tragedy....(as staged as it might have been).....is going to keep them from getting into the holiday spirit.

When the story broke that morning, at a time when the news was still reporting Ryan Lanza might have done the shooting, one can clearly see the embarrassing pictures of the fire station without Christmas light decorations. See link @ 0.02
[link to www.youtube.com]


Evidently, they discovered their social faux pas, and found the time in their busy day to hang some holiday lights. John Orr from CBS reports.
See @ 13.47 of this clip.
[link to www.youtube.com]


God bless us everyone.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1922136


Unbelieveable! The lights are not there in the 1st vid. Who would have the presence of mind to hang xmas lights during all this?

That's just fucked up.
wtf
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Hmm....same photo with 3 different backgrounds? Artistic license I suppose, changing them to "look" better. That is suspicious indeed.
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Where are all the professional photo-/video-graphers on 12/14/12 with their equipment?

According to the credits there must have been at least 7 photographers at Sandy Hook, but on the helicopter-footages I found only 1 who was harassed!

On the blog franklinnow.com/blogs/communityblogs/ [link to www.franklinnow.com]
there are 37 Photos of the Week (12/16/12), most of them from Sandy Hooks /Newtown,CT

Here are the photographers only from 12/14/12, look for the credits of the photos!

1) Shannon Hicks, Newtown Bee: State police personnel led children [link to msnbcmedia3.msn.com]
2) Michelle Mcloughlin / Reuters: crying children spilling into the school parking lot
[link to msnbcmedia.msn.com]
Google image search photographer-name+newtown+date(10-17 dec 2012) [link to www.google.de (secure)]
3) Jessica Hill / AP: A woman waits to hear about her sister [link to msnbcmedia1.msn.com]
Google image search photographer-name+newtown+date(10-17 dec 2012) [link to www.google.de (secure)]
4) Cloe Poisson, Hartford Courant: A mother rushes three children down Dickinson Drive [link to www.courant.com]
and many other: Google image search photographer-name+sandy+hook+date(10-17 dec 2012) [link to www.google.de (secure)]
5) Ted Shaffrey (AP): Google image search photographer-name+sandy+hook+date(10-17 dec 2012) [link to www.google.de (secure)]
stange: th
6) Don Emmert (AFP/Getty Images) Google image search photographer-name+sandy+hook+date(10-17 dec 2012) [link to www.google.de (secure)]
7) Andrees Latif Google image search photographer-name+newtown+date(10-17 dec 2012) [link to www.google.de (secure)]

LOOK FOR YOURSELF!
emanuelG

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Some more photographers at Sandy Hook, 12/15/12 or later:

8) Michael McAndres, Hartford Courant
9) Shannon Stapleton / Reuters
10) Mario Tama / Getty Images
11) Robert MacPherson / AFP - Getty Images
12) David Goldman /AP
Syntax for Google image search: google.de/search?q=name+surname+newtown
emanuelG

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Correction: Google image search with time restriction (10-17 Dec 2012):

google.de/search?q=%27jessica+hill%27+newtown&tbs=cdr:1,cd_mi​n:10.12.2012,cd_max:17.12.2012&tbm=isch
[link to www.google.de (secure)]

replace 'jessica+hill' with photographers name
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Wow. This is really suspicious -- and amazing detective work. What is up with all these fake photos? And if the media outlets are faking these, what else is being manipulated and faked?
This is OUTRAGEOUS and these media outlets need to be HOUNDED over their shenanigans and forced to clarify what imagery is manipulated -- because I suspect a lot more is than we are aware of!
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I don't think this proves too much at all, a few photographers might congregate together and, once someone starts showing a bit of emotion, they click away at the same time.

Photos from the same photographer might be posted in two papers but attributed to different people.

The tweet time means nothing, that is just the time of the tweet, not when the photo was taken.

Do not mistake my post for defending the official story, I don't believe anyone was shot at all, but that site tries to claim it was all filmed in a studio or at a different site which I consider to be rubbish.
 Quoting: HooleyDooley


I agree with the first part of your comment--but in no way agree that this was a hoax--you or no one else here has any PROOF>>>something very important.
Ask yourself one question--what mother and Father would agree to purposely subject their child to the torture--the trauma--of having that child live a lie. Telling the world that the child is dead...telling the child that you cannot come out in public anymore--ever? Ok--so maybe there is 1 set of parents that would do that....How about 20 SETs of parents ALL agreeing to this torture? ALL from the same town? ALL with kids at the same school?? Do YOU HONESTLY believe that to be the case here? Answer me honestly--then this game of BS will be over.
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its staged or photoshoped one of the images has a tree the rest do not
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wow--you are such an idiot--or just naive and easily duped...the photos are shot at various levels of CLOSEUPS! One photo zoomed in enough to where it blurred the background. 2 photos had the infamous tree that theorists conspire about. video was shot at angle--whereas 2 photos looked like they were shot off right from the video...It is NOT the same identical split second shot in all photos! Pictures of the cops walking up the road--one was taken at a particular second--another taken a split second or so later..you can see that clearly. Wonder if it is possible for photographers to stand around each other--especially ones tat may no each other--or longtime colleagues--and just be waiting for some good photo opps--which is how most of them get paid. This is nothing...means nothing towards any claims of a hoax.



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I don't think this proves too much at all, a few photographers might congregate together and, once someone starts showing a bit of emotion, they click away at the same time.

Photos from the same photographer might be posted in two papers but attributed to different people.

The tweet time means nothing, that is just the time of the tweet, not when the photo was taken.

Do not mistake my post for defending the official story, I don't believe anyone was shot at all, but that site tries to claim it was all filmed in a studio or at a different site which I consider to be rubbish.
 Quoting: HooleyDooley


I agree with the first part of your comment--but in no way agree that this was a hoax--you or no one else here has any PROOF>>>something very important.
Ask yourself one question--what mother and Father would agree to purposely subject their child to the torture--the trauma--of having that child live a lie. Telling the world that the child is dead...telling the child that you cannot come out in public anymore--ever? Ok--so maybe there is 1 set of parents that would do that....How about 20 SETs of parents ALL agreeing to this torture? ALL from the same town? ALL with kids at the same school?? Do YOU HONESTLY believe that to be the case here? Answer me honestly--then this game of BS will be over.
 Quoting: Rob83 33747978


Shit, all they'd have to do is send them to boarding school in switzerland or something.

Kids change fast. In a couple of years nobody would recognize them anymore. They could be cousin so and so from wherever at that point.

We'll send your kid to a uber elite boarding school if you play along. Oh and here's a couple million to ease the pain of separation.

Look around you man...people don't have morals anymore.
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Bumping for Robbie.
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"When tyrants tremble in their fear, and hear their death knell ringing,
When friends rejoice both far and near, how can I keep from singing"

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its staged or photoshoped one of the images has a tree the rest do not
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wow--you are such an idiot--or just naive and easily duped...the photos are shot at various levels of CLOSEUPS! One photo zoomed in enough to where it blurred the background. 2 photos had the infamous tree that theorists conspire about. video was shot at angle--whereas 2 photos looked like they were shot off right from the video...It is NOT the same identical split second shot in all photos! Pictures of the cops walking up the road--one was taken at a particular second--another taken a split second or so later..you can see that clearly. Wonder if it is possible for photographers to stand around each other--especially ones tat may no each other--or longtime colleagues--and just be waiting for some good photo opps--which is how most of them get paid. This is nothing...means nothing towards any claims of a hoax.



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 Quoting: Rob83 33747978


Level of closeup doesn't explain the angles being off. They'd have to have moved a few feet right or left in order for the windows/shutters to be directly behind the subjects. If they stayed in the same place, then clearly the building moved.
"When tyrants tremble in their fear, and hear their death knell ringing,
When friends rejoice both far and near, how can I keep from singing"

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its staged or photoshoped one of the images has a tree the rest do not
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33573284


wow--you are such an idiot--or just naive and easily duped...the photos are shot at various levels of CLOSEUPS! One photo zoomed in enough to where it blurred the background. 2 photos had the infamous tree that theorists conspire about. video was shot at angle--whereas 2 photos looked like they were shot off right from the video...It is NOT the same identical split second shot in all photos! Pictures of the cops walking up the road--one was taken at a particular second--another taken a split second or so later..you can see that clearly. Wonder if it is possible for photographers to stand around each other--especially ones tat may no each other--or longtime colleagues--and just be waiting for some good photo opps--which is how most of them get paid. This is nothing...means nothing towards any claims of a hoax.



bsflag bsflag bsflag
 Quoting: Rob83 33747978


Lose the chip on your shoulder and do some research for yourself.

SandyHoax is a theatrical production; and a poor one at that. Next time they should hire professional actors.
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its staged or photoshoped one of the images has a tree the rest do not
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33573284


wow--you are such an idiot--or just naive and easily duped...the photos are shot at various levels of CLOSEUPS! One photo zoomed in enough to where it blurred the background. 2 photos had the infamous tree that theorists conspire about. video was shot at angle--whereas 2 photos looked like they were shot off right from the video...It is NOT the same identical split second shot in all photos! Pictures of the cops walking up the road--one was taken at a particular second--another taken a split second or so later..you can see that clearly. Wonder if it is possible for photographers to stand around each other--especially ones tat may no each other--or longtime colleagues--and just be waiting for some good photo opps--which is how most of them get paid. This is nothing...means nothing towards any claims of a hoax.



bsflag bsflag bsflag
 Quoting: Rob83 33747978


Actually, no. The background doesn't change completely with a close up. The people aren't going to appear with the same perspective against suddenly different backdrops. THE cameras are looking at them fromt he same viewpoint. There are slight differences (grabbed at separate times) but the perspective of the people is THE SAME and the bakcground should not change.

By the way -- even if your "excuse" is correct -- it is still a preposterous (maybe even MORE of a ridiculous) situation in which a family was posing in front of a cackle of photographers (did they know there would be a sudden emotional moment to capture?) in order to display a moment of grief!
No...this is PROOF of the media manipulating or posing images (somehow or other) to suit their aims. It's PROOF that things are, indeed being staged (whether the OP or you are correct)!
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sandy faux
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I think Sandy Hook is a hoax, a dangerous hoax, and that both the government and media are in on it.

However, for this thread I do have some questions.
Once a photojournalist gets into a high enough position, (say major publication), he has access to share groups. These are groups who can legally share copyright law. It is almost a type of early insurance. It is the photojournalist, not the publication, that gets the copyright protection. The 'groups' would be at that level.

I would continue to check this out. But I would also be cautious about any premature conclusion that this is way out of ordinary.
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its staged or photoshoped one of the images has a tree the rest do not
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 Quoting: Rob83 33747978

Level of closeup doesn't explain the angles being off. They'd have to have moved a few feet right or left in order for the windows/shutters to be directly behind the subjects. If they stayed in the same place, then clearly the building moved.
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I don't wonder to see slightly different photos of the same scene taken by different photographers.
But:
Have you ever seen a paparazzi-crowd with full equipment huntig for impressive photos?
Where are they on the all helicopter-footage?
You can'find them. I found only 1 at the firestation who was harassed (by security?).
It must hav been at least 7 photographers at 12/14/12:
1) Shannon Hicks, Newtown Bee: State police personnel led children [link to msnbcmedia3.msn.com]
2) Michelle Mcloughlin / Reuters: crying children spilling into the school parking lot
[link to msnbcmedia.msn.com]
Google image search photographer-name+newtown+date(10-17 dec 2012) [link to www.google.de (secure)]
3) Jessica Hill / AP: A woman waits to hear about her sister [link to msnbcmedia1.msn.com]
Google image search photographer-name+newtown+date(10-17 dec 2012) [link to www.google.de (secure)]
4) Cloe Poisson, Hartford Courant: A mother rushes three children down Dickinson Drive [link to www.courant.com]
and many other: Google image search photographer-name+sandy+hook+date(10-17 dec 2012) [link to www.google.de (secure)]
5) Ted Shaffrey (AP): Google image search photographer-name+sandy+hook+date(10-17 dec 2012) [link to www.google.de (secure)]
stange: th
6) Don Emmert (AFP/Getty Images) Google image search photographer-name+sandy+hook+date(10-17 dec 2012) [link to www.google.de (secure)]
7) Andrees Latif Google image search photographer-name+newtown+date(10-17 dec 2012) [link to www.google.de (secure)]
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Some more photographers at Sandy Hook on 12/14/12:


8) Lucas Jackson / Reuters
Dec. 14, 2012; A woman is comforted as she weeps outside a building used to counsel family members;
[link to www.washingtonpost.com]
Google image search Lucas Jackson [link to www.google.de (secure)]
9) Melanie Stengel / AP
Dec. 14, 2012; A mother hugs her daughter outside the school.
[link to www.washingtonpost.com]
Google image search Melanie Stengel [link to www.google.de (secure)]
10) Jeff Spooner / European Pressphoto Agency
Dec. 14, 2012 ;A nun consoles woman outside the Sandy Hook Elementary School following the shooting.
[link to www.washingtonpost.com]
Google image search Jeff Spooner [link to www.google.de (secure)]

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