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Watch The Financial Markets In Europe: The Situation Is Unraveling At A Frightening Pace!!

 
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Is the financial system of Europe on the verge of a meltdown? I have always maintained that the next wave of the economic crisis would begin in Europe, and right now the situation in Europe is unraveling at a frightening pace. On Monday, European stocks had their worst day in over six months, and over the past four days we have seen the EUR/USD decline by the most that it has in nearly seven months. Meanwhile, scandals are erupting all over the continent. A political scandal in Spain, a derivatives scandal in Italy andbanking scandals all over the eurozone are seriously shaking confidence in the system. If things move much farther in a negative direction, we could be facing a full-blown financial crisis in Europe very rapidly. So watch the financial markets in Europe very carefully. Yes, most Americans tend to ignore Europe because they are convinced that the U.S. is “the center of the universe”, but the truth is that Europe actually has a bigger population than we do, they have a bigger economy then we do, and they have a much larger banking system than we do. The global financial system is more integrated today than it ever has been before, and if there is a major stock market crash in Europe it is going to deeply affect the United States and the rest of the globe as well. So pay close attention to what is going on in Europe, because events over there could spark a chain reaction that would have very serious implications for every man, woman and child on the planet....


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close friend works at swiss bank high up. had meetings about europe economy. very grim insider prognosis for this year. so yes. you're right.
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European Union leaders introduced their first spending cuts ever to the EU's 2014-2020 budget, shaped in a marathon session that ran through Thursday evening and into Friday morning. British Prime Minister David Cameron, who recently proposed a British referendum on EU membership, was the driving force behind the cuts.

Read more: [link to www.businessinsider.com]
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close friend works at swiss bank high up. had meetings about europe economy. very grim insider prognosis for this year. so yes. you're right.
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by "close friend" are you refering to an uncle?
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close friend works at swiss bank high up. had meetings about europe economy. very grim insider prognosis for this year. so yes. you're right.
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by "close friend" are you refering to an uncle?
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His aunt is floor manager at the top floor of the building.
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The simple fact of the matter is that we have more Jewish geniuses running our banks in the United States than they have in all of Europe. American banks are making money while the European banks still lose most of the time of derivative bets. They are just dumbasses!
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European Union leaders introduced their first spending cuts ever to the EU's 2014-2020 budget, shaped in a marathon session that ran through Thursday evening and into Friday morning. British Prime Minister David Cameron, who recently proposed a British referendum on EU membership, was the driving force behind the cuts.

Read more: [link to www.businessinsider.com]
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Germany was the last bulwark of strength in Europe, but they are now officially entering recession. Most of Europe is in Depression. Hitler sure fugged up when he killed all of the Jews.
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EU summit in progress and they're not agreeing on anything. Last night it looked like they were going to be unable to agree a budget, meaning they will have to meet up every year to re-negotiate.
I don't think so,
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Don't wanna steal your thread, but you are giving more weight to my thread :

Thread: 2013 - the year when SHTF - economic meltdown inevitable this year.

Last Edited by recollector on 02/08/2013 11:01 AM
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Please say EU, not europe :-) Claiming germany was last standing in europe, when it should be eu...
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close friend works at swiss bank high up. had meetings about europe economy. very grim insider prognosis for this year. so yes. you're right.
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by "close friend" are you refering to an uncle?
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His aunt is floor manager at the top floor of the building.
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I needed that laugh this morning.... thank you
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close friend works at swiss bank high up. had meetings about europe economy. very grim insider prognosis for this year. so yes. you're right.
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by "close friend" are you refering to an uncle?
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no.
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The simple fact of the matter is that we have more Jewish geniuses running our banks in the United States than they have in all of Europe. American banks are making money while the European banks still lose most of the time of derivative bets. They are just dumbasses!
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My friend is a jewish genius at a european bank.
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Hm.. if Europe collapses, the us$ would follow in a matter of weeks. The hope is to have a soft landing rather than a crash so we have enough time to prepare for the next 25 years of recession ...
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European Union leaders introduced their first spending cuts ever to the EU's 2014-2020 budget, shaped in a marathon session that ran through Thursday evening and into Friday morning. British Prime Minister David Cameron, who recently proposed a British referendum on EU membership, was the driving force behind the cuts.

Read more: [link to www.businessinsider.com]
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They had him strawman the cuts because they dont even use the euro as a currency. They are hoping that the other countries dont errupt because they just blame it on a country that does not even participate in the currency they are cutting.

Aint that pertty !
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Very interesting article on Zerohedge...

Put's a bit too much blame on "Capitalism", but I think it's really the "Monetary System" as whole that this article concerns, because the exact same weakness' of Capitalism are present and even more pronounced in "Communism/Socialism", so I think you have to look at the Monetary Structures of our world as a whole here...

Anyway, a highly recommended read...

[link to www.zerohedge.com]
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Very interesting article on Zerohedge...

Put's a bit too much blame on "Capitalism", but I think it's really the "Monetary System" as whole that this article concerns, because the exact same weakness' of Capitalism are present and even more pronounced in "Communism/Socialism", so I think you have to look at the Monetary Structures of our world as a whole here...

Anyway, a highly recommended read...

[link to www.zerohedge.com]
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I read Charles Hugh Smith almost every day, I guess because I'm not a trader or financial guru, just an average guy. IMO he does a great job at identifying macro trends and explaining it so well even an idiot like me can understand.

+1 for CHS.
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The simple fact of the matter is that we have more Jewish geniuses running our banks in the United States than they have in all of Europe. American banks are making money while the European banks still lose most of the time of derivative bets. They are just dumbasses!
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yes american financial environment is the best to breed criminals
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Written a few months ago but still relevant.

Financial Crisis - Perfect Storm 2013

All the headlines NOW... are conditioning for masses to accept this inevitability.

[link to beyondprophecy.blogspot.ca]
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you can't use greed as a backstop to using crop ethanol in U.S., brazil has plenty unless you think their our enemy. using crops as a weapon is goin to bring ww3
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conflicting information;

my good friend has a contact; a financial planner in the usa

they say the us stock market is doing the best it has ever done since about 2008

of coarse this is usa

where many look at the usa as the focal point of the world

but this planner seems to think usa is doing

well right now


does someone want to interpret this

is this financial planner looking at things with blinders on
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The simple fact of the matter is that we have more Jewish geniuses running our banks in the United States than they have in all of Europe. American banks are making money while the European banks still lose most of the time of derivative bets. They are just dumbasses!
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makes sense once you are aware of what america really is

a corporation to support isreal

and the jew geniuses look out for theirs in both countries
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this shit has been said time, after time, after time, after fucking time; i'm fed up of hearing about something that ain't going to happen ever! simple get on with your boring little life you slave.
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European Union leaders introduced their first spending cuts ever to the EU's 2014-2020 budget, shaped in a marathon session that ran through Thursday evening and into Friday morning. British Prime Minister David Cameron, who recently proposed a British referendum on EU membership, was the driving force behind the cuts.

Read more: [link to www.businessinsider.com]
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UK envision to leave Europe, why do they have decisive requests ?
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Japan will go first then Europe then USA grand finale.
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conflicting information;

my good friend has a contact; a financial planner in the usa

they say the us stock market is doing the best it has ever done since about 2008

of coarse this is usa

where many look at the usa as the focal point of the world

but this planner seems to think usa is doing

well right now


does someone want to interpret this

is this financial planner looking at things with blinders on
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Yes, the US stock market is doing well now. What does that have to do with the economy? The stock market is the Las Vegas of the financial world, just legalized gambling. Look at the people who get rich off of "shorting" something. It has nothing to do with the realities in the economy. Everyone knows the US is going to crash, Obama is out there lying his ass off, just to keep the sheeple stupefied a little longer. The debt, the continued spending, borrowing, printing money, etc., is a house of cards that cannot be maintained.

Question: why do they count gov't spending as a contributor to GNP? Gov't is not a wealth generator. In private business, corporate expenses from the centralized organization are considered EXPENSES, to be deducted from the final tally on performance. And when you consider they are printing the money, not using real income, to do all this spending...I wonder what the true GNP is? MUCH less than they say.

Anyone who still has money in the markets, especially 401K's, should start seriously considering cashing out. When the crash goes, all of this is going to disappear. My question at this point is when we should pull money out of bank accounts? Everything I've read indicates status quo for another year or two and then shtf. Are things that bad that we have months instead of a year or two?
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conflicting information;

my good friend has a contact; a financial planner in the usa

they say the us stock market is doing the best it has ever done since about 2008

of coarse this is usa

where many look at the usa as the focal point of the world

but this planner seems to think usa is doing

well right now


does someone want to interpret this

is this financial planner looking at things with blinders on
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32538141


He is probably basing it on the price of stocks, not on fundamentals, and that risk aversion is at an all time low. But, the last 2 crashes of the market revealed the bubbles first in tech stocks and then the housing market.

Since central banks across the world have lowered their prime rates to near zero and injected trillions of liquidity into the system, the primary movers in the markets are banks as they have access to near free credit. That doesn't justify high prices, the prices are high due to the access of cheaper and cheaper credit.

Cheap credit always produces bubbles and no one sees a bubble collapse (well the punditry) until the collapse happens. Then they all say, I didn't see it coming and the masses always fall for it.

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conflicting information;

my good friend has a contact; a financial planner in the usa

they say the us stock market is doing the best it has ever done since about 2008

of coarse this is usa

where many look at the usa as the focal point of the world

but this planner seems to think usa is doing

well right now


does someone want to interpret this

is this financial planner looking at things with blinders on
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32538141


Yes, the US stock market is doing well now. What does that have to do with the economy? The stock market is the Las Vegas of the financial world, just legalized gambling. Look at the people who get rich off of "shorting" something. It has nothing to do with the realities in the economy. Everyone knows the US is going to crash, Obama is out there lying his ass off, just to keep the sheeple stupefied a little longer. The debt, the continued spending, borrowing, printing money, etc., is a house of cards that cannot be maintained.

Question: why do they count gov't spending as a contributor to GNP? Gov't is not a wealth generator. In private business, corporate expenses from the centralized organization are considered EXPENSES, to be deducted from the final tally on performance. And when you consider they are printing the money, not using real income, to do all this spending...I wonder what the true GNP is? MUCH less than they say.

Anyone who still has money in the markets, especially 401K's, should start seriously considering cashing out. When the crash goes, all of this is going to disappear. My question at this point is when we should pull money out of bank accounts? Everything I've read indicates status quo for another year or two and then shtf. Are things that bad that we have months instead of a year or two?
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i keep little in my bank account at any one time

just enough so i don't get overdrafts

what i would like someone to tell us is when do we take
money out of our 401k s
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what i would like someone to tell us is when do we take
money out of our 401k s
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Then you deserve to lose it. Investing requires due diligence and critical thinking on your part. If you rely on someone else to give you advice, like a financial planner, they will take your money and nowadays care less what happens to it. No one works for free, and anymore very few have a conscience.

I read this years ago, and its still true, in today's investing market a return of your investment is better than looking for a return on your investment.

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what i would like someone to tell us is when do we take
money out of our 401k s
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32538141


Then you deserve to lose it. Investing requires due diligence and critical thinking on your part. If you rely on someone else to give you advice, like a financial planner, they will take your money and nowadays care less what happens to it. No one works for free, and anymore very few have a conscience.

I read this years ago, and its still true, in today's investing market a return of your investment is better than looking for a return on your investment.

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Look at it this way, the benchmark interest rate in the economy has historically been the 10 year treasury bond. That is most investment grade instruments can yield about what a 10-year bond will yield. Today, (not sure of specifics) but the 10-year bond is around 2%.

That means if anyone tells you they can get you a better return of 2% you have gone from investment to speculation with associated risk. Since 2% is all you can reliably earn, and you can expect some form of fee from using a planner, or someone else handling your money, all that money is essentially at risk with no real return.

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this shit has been said time, after time, after time, after fucking time; i'm fed up of hearing about something that ain't going to happen ever! simple get on with your boring little life you slave.
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dude do you ever speak with people working with real economy?

I mean production and retail?

It's so bad that even those business who till now where not tankig thanks to easy credit and buying competors on shrinking market are about to implode

stock markets it's a game where the biggest are eating all the small ones

once final supercorporations operation for each continent will be formed then there will be not longer need of such game

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