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How were you introduced to the concept of the Chemtrail conspiracy?

 
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More of the conversation with the combat pilot . . .

Here's the point to the chem-trail deal... the chem-tards don't stop to think that the pilots will be gassed after they land. Who the hell thinks tens of thousands of pilots would poison the atmosphere when they would really be fucking not only themselves, but their own families?

Do the chem-tards really thing pilots would be immune from all this poisoning?

You are much closer to chemical poisoning on the street outside your house where the wind isn't blowing the shit away from you at 100 mph like it is in the jet stream. Anything spewed out the back of a jet over this country won't hit the ground until it's over Europe or Asia and by then it will be so widely dispersed that it won't be a factor to anyone.

Thread: Chemtrail Poll . . . do you think chemtrails are real? See the Results NOW! (Page 6)
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So you think most/many pilots are knowledgeable and involved in chemtrailing . . . ?coffee4
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My thoughts are that the chemtrail planes are not flown by commerical pilots. I'm sure the pilots that do fly these planes are aware.

I think some of these planes are remote control and ufo's.
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This goes to show there is much confusion about where most people get their ideas about chemtrails from. Seemingly most noticed a difference in clouds, but however when a chemtrail thread is made here almost 90% of the time it's bombarded by shills, even though your poll clearly shows 70%+ approval/belief in chemtrails, that alone is enough to tell you they are real.
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The OP of this thread shills his own threads by trying to trick people into not believeing what they see..
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The sky was full of them one day, planes coming from all angles for a long time, a few still showing up until sunset. And I kept filming the sky with my cell phone without a real reason other than getting people to notice, ask me about it, it was very unusual but I didn't see anyone looking up.
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so he feels you are on the wrong side of the debate . . .

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There should be no debate.

On a clear TOTALLY sunny July morning with ZERO wind speed and a high pressure air mass covering thousands of square miles in all directions. Get it NO air mass is moving!

I wake up with visions of a great SUNNY day. The sky is a brilliant cobalt blue. Then they appear THE PLANES flying in formation each laying down a chemtrail. By ten the trails are merging covering the sky. By noon the sky is a sick milky white. NO clouds, no wind, just a sick milky white that blocks much of the sunshine.

Of course it is all in my head so I put on my shorts and get some rays before the shit can descend and cover my skin.
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Re: How were you introduced to the concept of the Chemtrail conspiracy?
it was very unusual but I didn't see anyone looking up.
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Bingo NO ONE looks up.

As a kid I verified this numerous times. I would lie on a tree branch eight or ten feet above the sidewalk and people, hundreds of people would walk right under me and NO ONE looked up.

Only when snipers are in the trees and hills do people look up and then it is look up or die.

Look up or die.
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Re: How were you introduced to the concept of the Chemtrail conspiracy?
This goes to show there is much confusion about where most people get their ideas about chemtrails from. Seemingly most noticed a difference in clouds, but however when a chemtrail thread is made here almost 90% of the time it's bombarded by shills, even though your poll clearly shows 70%+ approval/belief in chemtrails, that alone is enough to tell you they are real.
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The OP of this thread shills his own threads by trying to trick people into not believeing what they see..
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I don't try to fool anyone . . . I tell people exactly what I think . . . and I don't tell anyone what to think but you seem to want to do just that . . . huffy
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Re: How were you introduced to the concept of the Chemtrail conspiracy?
More of the conversation with the combat pilot . . .

Here's the point to the chem-trail deal... the chem-tards don't stop to think that the pilots will be gassed after they land. Who the hell thinks tens of thousands of pilots would poison the atmosphere when they would really be fucking not only themselves, but their own families?

Do the chem-tards really thing pilots would be immune from all this poisoning?

You are much closer to chemical poisoning on the street outside your house where the wind isn't blowing the shit away from you at 100 mph like it is in the jet stream. Anything spewed out the back of a jet over this country won't hit the ground until it's over Europe or Asia and by then it will be so widely dispersed that it won't be a factor to anyone.

Thread: Chemtrail Poll . . . do you think chemtrails are real? See the Results NOW! (Page 6)
 Quoting: George B


sockpuppetstir
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So you think most/many pilots are knowledgeable and involved in chemtrailing . . . ?coffee4
 Quoting: George B



My thoughts are that the chemtrail planes are not flown by commerical pilots. I'm sure the pilots that do fly these planes are aware.

I think some of these planes are remote control and ufo's.
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Sounds reasonable . . . otherwise it may be too difficult to keep covert . . . coffee4
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I would like to remind everyone to take their vitamin D because maybe you can't get it from the sun anymore due to chemtrails.

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so he feels you are on the wrong side of the debate . . .

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There should be no debate.

On a clear TOTALLY sunny July morning with ZERO wind speed and a high pressure air mass covering thousands of square miles in all directions. Get it NO air mass is moving!

I wake up with visions of a great SUNNY day. The sky is a brilliant cobalt blue. Then they appear THE PLANES flying in formation each laying down a chemtrail. By ten the trails are merging covering the sky. By noon the sky is a sick milky white. NO clouds, no wind, just a sick milky white that blocks much of the sunshine.

Of course it is all in my head so I put on my shorts and get some rays before the shit can descend and cover my skin.
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It is not in your head . . . they are very real . . .
Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter!

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I would like to remind everyone to take their vitamin D because maybe you can't get it from the sun anymore due to chemtrails.
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If there is too much cloud cover as is sometimes true in Scandinavia one does need vitamin D supplements . . . verycold
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I would like to remind everyone to take their vitamin D because maybe you can't get it from the sun anymore due to chemtrails.
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If there is too much cloud cover as is sometimes true in Scandinavia one does need vitamin D supplements . . . verycold
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Yes they need them now but they didn't 25 years ago.

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The sky was full of them one day, planes coming from all angles for a long time, a few still showing up until sunset. And I kept filming the sky with my cell phone without a real reason other than getting people to notice, ask me about it, it was very unusual but I didn't see anyone looking up.
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People don't look up because they don't think the trails in the sky are unusual or harmful . . . coffee4
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Re: How were you introduced to the concept of the Chemtrail conspiracy?
POLL: How were you introduced to the concept of the Chemtrail conspiracy?
3) I notice them first in the sky and started to ask questions 55.8% (58)
2) I visited a website and they talked about them 16.3% (17)
1) Someone (a friend, family, etc.) told me about Chemtrails 9.6% (10)
9) Other . . . please specify 7.7% (8)
4) I was reading about a different conspiracy and they mentioned them . . . 5.8% (6)
8) I had a dream about them and just knew 1.9% (2)
5) I saw a discussion on a YouTube video 1.0% (1)
6) I was watching TV and there was a news story about them 1.0% (1)
7) I was watching TV and I saw a documentary on the History Channel 1.0% (1)
Blank (View Results) (9)

Non-Blank Votes: 104

Congratulations . . . we now have over 100 participants!!!

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POLL: How were you introduced to the concept of the Chemtrail conspiracy?
3) I notice them first in the sky and started to ask questions 52.5% (62)
2) I visited a website and they talked about them 17.8% (21)
1) Someone (a friend, family, etc.) told me about Chemtrails 11.0% (13)
9) Other . . . please specify 8.5% (10)
4) I was reading about a different conspiracy and they mentioned them . . . 5.1% (6)
7) I was watching TV and I saw a documentary on the History Channel 1.7% (2)
8) I had a dream about them and just knew 1.7% (2)
5) I saw a discussion on a YouTube video 0.8% (1)
6) I was watching TV and there was a news story about them 0.8% (1)
Blank (View Results) (10)

Non-Blank Votes: 118
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POLL: How were you introduced to the concept of the Chemtrail conspiracy?
3) I notice them first in the sky and started to ask questions 52.4% (77)
2) I visited a website and they talked about them 16.3% (24)
1) Someone (a friend, family, etc.) told me about Chemtrails 11.6% (17)
9) Other . . . please specify 8.8% (13)
4) I was reading about a different conspiracy and they mentioned them . . . 4.8% (7)
5) I saw a discussion on a YouTube video 2.7% (4)
7) I was watching TV and I saw a documentary on the History Channel 1.4% (2)
8) I had a dream about them and just knew 1.4% (2)
6) I was watching TV and there was a news story about them 0.7% (1)
Blank (View Results) (13)

Non-Blank Votes: 147

Interesting #3 is getting a bit smaller . . .
 Quoting: George B

POLL: How were you introduced to the concept of the Chemtrail conspiracy?
3) I notice them first in the sky and started to ask questions 51.9% (95)
2) I visited a website and they talked about them 15.8% (29)
1) Someone (a friend, family, etc.) told me about Chemtrails 10.4% (19)
9) Other . . . please specify 8.7% (16)
4) I was reading about a different conspiracy and they mentioned them . . . 7.1% (13)
5) I saw a discussion on a YouTube video 3.3% (6)
7) I was watching TV and I saw a documentary on the History Channel 1.1% (2)
8) I had a dream about them and just knew 1.1% (2)
6) I was watching TV and there was a news story about them 0.5% (1)
Blank (View Results) (17)

Non-Blank Votes: 183
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To say I am amazed at these results would be an understatement . . . many people think that chemtrails were introduced to people through the Internet not by them looking up and then searching out an explanation . . . coffee4
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I am one who had to be told, coached into seeing what was in front of me. How many of us say to ourselves, 'if something odd the tv would tell me'. I would not want to be in that group of people. But I was.
I noticed something else. Some people, in denial, state that they have seen them all their lives. They only started sometime in the mid 1990s.
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To say I am amazed at these results would be an understatement . . . many people think that chemtrails were introduced to people through the Internet not by them looking up and then searching out an explanation . . . coffee4
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I am one who had to be told, coached into seeing what was in front of me. How many of us say to ourselves, 'if something odd the tv would tell me'. I would not want to be in that group of people. But I was.
I noticed something else. Some people, in denial, state that they have seen them all their lives. They only started sometime in the mid 1990s.
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The point is there are other explanations for the increase in trails in the sky . . . I personally think most are due to changes in the altitudes most long haul aviation is now capable of sustaining and newer higher efficiency engines . . . along with the sheer number of flights over the last few decades . . . that does not mean that chemtrails don't exist . . .

Note: If geoengineering is the objective of a covert aerosol injection program . . . there is no need for the aerosols to be visible . . .
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Re: How were you introduced to the concept of the Chemtrail conspiracy?
If they are just new fangled airplanes that leave funny loopy trails that fan out and cause clouds there ought to be a law that they can't fuck up the complete entire sky.

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If they are just new fangled airplanes that leave funny loopy trails that fan out and cause clouds there ought to be a law that they can't fuck up the complete entire sky.
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I totally agree . . . but it is cheaper . . . so they have made the decision for everyone . . .

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Re: How were you introduced to the concept of the Chemtrail conspiracy?
It doesn't explain why on a clear blue sky day planes fly in formation laying straight lines of trails and afterwards the sky becomes so muddy that you can't see the sun through the clouds. That I have seen with my own eyes. It was done for over 2 weeks straight and it was the reason I started posting on chemtrail threads. A total block of the sun by planes flying side by side just so far apart causing an almost immediate blockage of sunlight. Those were not just harmless commercial planes.

:hat cloud:

Just like that cloud covering that mountain only straight and flat across the sky.

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It doesn't explain why on a clear blue sky day planes fly in formation laying straight lines of trails and afterwards the sky becomes so muddy that you can't see the sun through the clouds. That I have seen with my own eyes. It was done for over 2 weeks straight and it was the reason I started posting on chemtrail threads. A total block of the sun by planes flying side by side just so far apart causing an almost immediate blockage of sunlight. Those were not just harmless commercial planes.

:hat cloud:

Just like that cloud covering that mountain only straight and flat across the sky.
 Quoting: WindyMind


People say what you have said many times . . . all I can say is what one sees being done 37,000 feet above you can be very misleading . . . there is relatively an infinite number of things that can happen including routine commercial activity as well as covert operations . . .
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[link to www.sunshinevitamin.org]

Humans spend less time in the sun today than at any point in human history – which is why more than 1 billion people worldwide are vitamin D deficient.
Vitamin D Comes From the Sun


Sunlight is the best and only natural source of vitamin D. Unlike dietary or supplementary vitamin D, when you get your ‘D’ from sunshine your body takes what it needs, and de-metabolizes any extra. That’s critical – as vitamin D experts and many health groups now advocate 1,000 to 2,000 IU of vitamin D daily – five to ten times the old recommendations. Because too much ‘D’ from dietary supplements may cause the body to over-process calcium, nobody really knows for sure how much supplementary vitamin D is safe. On the other hand, sunlight-induced vitamin D doesn’t have that problem – it’s the way your body is intended to make it!


So maybe people are spending less time in the sun but I think that the chemtrails are blocking the sun and causing a deficiency where there should be none.

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There should of been an option to select on the poll which says "your a chemtard", for the record i do believe in chemtrails hell i seem them everyday
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There should of been an option to select on the poll which says "your a chemtard", for the record i do believe in chemtrails hell i seem them everyday
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So you think most persistent trails in the sky are chemtrails ??coffee4
Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter!

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[link to www.sunshinevitamin.org]

Humans spend less time in the sun today than at any point in human history – which is why more than 1 billion people worldwide are vitamin D deficient.
Vitamin D Comes From the Sun


Sunlight is the best and only natural source of vitamin D. Unlike dietary or supplementary vitamin D, when you get your ‘D’ from sunshine your body takes what it needs, and de-metabolizes any extra. That’s critical – as vitamin D experts and many health groups now advocate 1,000 to 2,000 IU of vitamin D daily – five to ten times the old recommendations. Because too much ‘D’ from dietary supplements may cause the body to over-process calcium, nobody really knows for sure how much supplementary vitamin D is safe. On the other hand, sunlight-induced vitamin D doesn’t have that problem – it’s the way your body is intended to make it!


So maybe people are spending less time in the sun but I think that the chemtrails are blocking the sun and causing a deficiency where there should be none.
 Quoting: WindyMind


Interesting theory . . . in the 2000-2011 time frame there was some evidence of more aerosols in the stratosphere than NOAA had expected . . . most of it was thought to be Sulfur compounds . . . [link to www.noaanews.noaa.gov]

"The reasons for the 10-year increase in stratospheric aerosols are not fully understood and are the subject of ongoing research, says coauthor Ryan Neely, with the University of Colorado and the Cooperative Institute for Research in Environmental Sciences (CIRES). Likely suspects are natural sources – smaller volcanic eruptions – and/or human activities, which could have emitted the sulfur-containing gases, such as sulfur dioxide, that react in the atmosphere to form reflective aerosol particles."

"“Since the year 2000, stratospheric aerosols have caused a slower rate of climate warming than we would have seen without them,” says John Daniel, a physicist at the NOAA Earth System Research Laboratory (ESRL) in Boulder, Colo. and an author of the new study."

Sulfur Graph

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Thanks for your post!!!! coffee4
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There should of been an option to select on the poll which says "your a chemtard", for the record i do believe in chemtrails hell i seem them everyday
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Lol!! Thanks!!! goodnews
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Re: How were you introduced to the concept of the Chemtrail conspiracy?
Maybe myself and others are just witnessing many covert operations and confusing them with chemtrails. Clearly, the covert operations block the sun more than everyday trails. Why does the military have to practice over our skies like this?

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Maybe myself and others are just witnessing many covert operations and confusing them with chemtrails. Clearly, the covert operations block the sun more than everyday trails. Why does the military have to practice over our skies like this?
 Quoting: WindyMind


Why are you sure they are military flights or just commercial flights you cannot easily identify? There are thousands of flights over the US most days . . . and an aircraft trail injected at 37,000 as seen from the ground can be seen easily for probably 50 to 80 miles or more . . .

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Re: How were you introduced to the concept of the Chemtrail conspiracy?
A couple I met at a campsite in Belen, New Mexico.
They were retired school teachers from New Jersey.
They had been to a teachers symposium in Phoenix.
They told me and showed me pictures of planes making a grid pattern in the sky, she told me within an hour of seeing this she developed a skin rash on all exposed skin and had difficulty breathing.

This was 1992 and in my home state of Ohio I had never seen anything like, then a few years around 2000, I started noticing the X's in the sky...
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Re: How were you introduced to the concept of the Chemtrail conspiracy?
A couple I met at a campsite in Belen, New Mexico.
They were retired school teachers from New Jersey.
They had been to a teachers symposium in Phoenix.
They told me and showed me pictures of planes making a grid pattern in the sky, she told me within an hour of seeing this she developed a skin rash on all exposed skin and had difficulty breathing.

This was 1992 and in my home state of Ohio I had never seen anything like, then a few years around 2000, I started noticing the X's in the sky...
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