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How were you introduced to the concept of the Chemtrail conspiracy?

 
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Yesterday's sunset was chemtrailed. I'll see what today's looks like. I wonder why sunset times are targeted..
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I noticed a while ago that they started trailing early in the morning in my area. I don't know if they still are. It is a great way to hide it from me because I don't do early morning. lol
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I have thought a thought. What about the spaceships? Up until recent history they have had a crystal clear view of the planet. Now it is all cloudy for them. Maybe they think... shit that is the same thing we did to our planet before we got a clue. :)

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That would go for all pollution as well as what nature does . . . but you are right persistent trails in the sky would tell ETs much about us . . .

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But of course! They have been watching for a long, long time so it is no surprise to them. I guess I imagine myself looking at the planet from a ship window and it is pretty clear. My view is clear but that means my view is inaccurate. Do you think they have lenses that are able to clear the fuzz? That maybe they can remove the clouding for their viewing experience?
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Re: How were you introduced to the concept of the Chemtrail conspiracy?
Al Gore talks to Ellen DeGeneres about Chemtrails



Sulphur allergies?
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[link to www.1-800homeopathy.com]

Sulphur headaches

Throbbing pain

Its headaches feel very constricted, hot and full with burning, bursting pain in the forehead and at the vertex (top) and may have the typical Sulphur indigestion.

They would have to spray something that gives me Bursting Headaches with Throbbing Pain. It is not funny when you can't prove chemtrails are making you sick. This is the second kind of sick for me.
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Now, anyone can tell why they don't spray in Africa??? I travel a lot around the world, I've seen chemtrails in Europe, Asia, but here in Africa skies are always clean. STRANGE
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I'm god now give me all you money. ( this may work since most of you seem to believe the crap you read on the Internet )
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Now, anyone can tell why they don't spray in Africa??? I travel a lot around the world, I've seen chemtrails in Europe, Asia, but here in Africa skies are always clean. STRANGE
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Africa has few high altitude flights . . .
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I'm god now give me all you money. ( this may work since most of you seem to believe the crap you read on the Internet )
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yoda
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George, you said you were in the middle..between both extremes, correct? Your only desire is to promote a balanced argument.

Why is it your -every post- has only been to provide alternative explanations?

Regardless of how "nice" you sound, regardless of how many "alternative" explanations you have, not a single one seems to bolster the idea of it BEING an actual chemtrail.

You are clearly biased, regardless of what you say past this post, and I encourage everyone reading this to identify George B as a biased misinformation source, and at worst a government shill.

Have a nice day.
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George, you said you were in the middle..between both extremes, correct? Your only desire is to promote a balanced argument.

Why is it your -every post- has only been to provide alternative explanations?

Regardless of how "nice" you sound, regardless of how many "alternative" explanations you have, not a single one seems to bolster the idea of it BEING an actual chemtrail.

You are clearly biased, regardless of what you say past this post, and I encourage everyone reading this to identify George B as a biased misinformation source, and at worst a government shill.

Have a nice day.
 Quoting: Varius 33267812


So you don't want to be aware of the alternate explanations? If chemtrail advocates are not able to confront a free and honest examination of what is known from all sources what is it you want? You don't want to be confused with what? How is knowledge a threat?
Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter!

All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them.
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The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B
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Re: How were you introduced to the concept of the Chemtrail conspiracy?
George, you said you were in the middle..between both extremes, correct? Your only desire is to promote a balanced argument.

Why is it your -every post- has only been to provide alternative explanations?

Regardless of how "nice" you sound, regardless of how many "alternative" explanations you have, not a single one seems to bolster the idea of it BEING an actual chemtrail.

You are clearly biased, regardless of what you say past this post, and I encourage everyone reading this to identify George B as a biased misinformation source, and at worst a government shill.

Have a nice day.
 Quoting: Varius 33267812


Yes,I have been saying this all along about George.
Hopefully the people are catching on about what he is doing.
He is a shill. and I believe that he is also the mean shill known as "noble"..
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I don't think they did, Geoengineering wasn't really discussed back then.
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What do you remember about the article?uk
 Quoting: George B


You can still buy it, Vol 6 No.3 April - May 1999

'CHEMTRAILS': POISON FROM THE SKY
By William Thomas. Contrails made by US Air Force aircraft tankers have been criss-crossing US skies for the last two years and have coincided with mysterious respiratory disease outbreaks. Are they part of a biowarfare or weather-control experiment?
[link to www.nexusmagazine.com]


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I thought it was an article by the magazine ? . . . not by William Thomas himself .. . he is credited with coining the term chemtrails . . . goodnews
 Quoting: George B


Well as Nexus is an Australian based magazine they would have had no personal experience of chemtrails back then in 1999 so they would have had to rely on articles written by others.
As I mentioned earlier I had not seen them either and as I had read the article I looked out for them here in the UK but they didn't appear in our skies, where I live anyway or on my travels around the country until late 2002 around thye same time as the build up to the war in Iraq, in fact the very first time I spotted them was a huge X above a military testing ground.
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Re: How were you introduced to the concept of the Chemtrail conspiracy?
I read about it in the internet, then I started observing the sky, first with my eyes, then with binoculars. I couldn't believe what I was seeing. I'm 100% sure they are manufactured (clouds). The purpose of it.. I'm not so sure.
I think it is a mix of things, but what they say it is, cloud seeding and weather modification, it's just part of it.
I'm pretty sure they use it for darker purposes too. Like creating illnesses, not only with the possibility of spreading viruses, but all the metal crap that is link to Alzheimer and autoimmune diseases.
Lately I've been thinking, they are not diminishing the sun rays to help with global warming, but creating a greenhouse effect to "increase" global warming. Yeah, that evil.
I am convinced there are a bunch of liars, who don't care
about the general population, but only their secret agendas.
Why nobody says anything, because it is totally useless. We can't do a damn thing. I mean we could, be we would be immediately dismissed.
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Re: How were you introduced to the concept of the Chemtrail conspiracy?
George, you said you were in the middle..between both extremes, correct? Your only desire is to promote a balanced argument.

Why is it your -every post- has only been to provide alternative explanations?

Regardless of how "nice" you sound, regardless of how many "alternative" explanations you have, not a single one seems to bolster the idea of it BEING an actual chemtrail.

You are clearly biased, regardless of what you say past this post, and I encourage everyone reading this to identify George B as a biased misinformation source, and at worst a government shill.

Have a nice day.
 Quoting: Varius 33267812


Yes,I have been saying this all along about George.
Hopefully the people are catching on about what he is doing.
He is a shill. and I believe that he is also the mean shill known as "noble"..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34536034


You don't know how wrong you are . . . but you are entitled to you opinions as well as I am . . .coffee4
Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter!

All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them.
Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642)

The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B
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What do you remember about the article?uk
 Quoting: George B


You can still buy it, Vol 6 No.3 April - May 1999

'CHEMTRAILS': POISON FROM THE SKY
By William Thomas. Contrails made by US Air Force aircraft tankers have been criss-crossing US skies for the last two years and have coincided with mysterious respiratory disease outbreaks. Are they part of a biowarfare or weather-control experiment?
[link to www.nexusmagazine.com]


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I thought it was an article by the magazine ? . . . not by William Thomas himself .. . he is credited with coining the term chemtrails . . . goodnews
 Quoting: George B


Well as Nexus is an Australian based magazine they would have had no personal experience of chemtrails back then in 1999 so they would have had to rely on articles written by others.
As I mentioned earlier I had not seen them either and as I had read the article I looked out for them here in the UK but they didn't appear in our skies, where I live anyway or on my travels around the country until late 2002 around thye same time as the build up to the war in Iraq, in fact the very first time I spotted them was a huge X above a military testing ground.
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Interesting . . . I thought a potential use of Chemtrails was military countermeasures, communication, and cover for high altitude missions . . .

Saudi Pic 1991
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All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them.
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What do you remember about the article?uk
 Quoting: George B


You can still buy it, Vol 6 No.3 April - May 1999

'CHEMTRAILS': POISON FROM THE SKY
By William Thomas. Contrails made by US Air Force aircraft tankers have been criss-crossing US skies for the last two years and have coincided with mysterious respiratory disease outbreaks. Are they part of a biowarfare or weather-control experiment?
[link to www.nexusmagazine.com]


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33697746

I thought it was an article by the magazine ? . . . not by William Thomas himself .. . he is credited with coining the term chemtrails . . . goodnews
 Quoting: George B


Well as Nexus is an Australian based magazine they would have had no personal experience of chemtrails back then in 1999 so they would have had to rely on articles written by others.
As I mentioned earlier I had not seen them either and as I had read the article I looked out for them here in the UK but they didn't appear in our skies, where I live anyway or on my travels around the country until late 2002 around thye same time as the build up to the war in Iraq, in fact the very first time I spotted them was a huge X above a military testing ground.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33697746


All one has to do is look at the poll results and know that most people say the sky was what disturbed them first and then they started to look for reasons . . . coffee4
Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter!

All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them.
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The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B
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I read about it in the internet, then I started observing the sky, first with my eyes, then with binoculars. I couldn't believe what I was seeing. I'm 100% sure they are manufactured (clouds). The purpose of it.. I'm not so sure.
I think it is a mix of things, but what they say it is, cloud seeding and weather modification, it's just part of it.
I'm pretty sure they use it for darker purposes too. Like creating illnesses, not only with the possibility of spreading viruses, but all the metal crap that is link to Alzheimer and autoimmune diseases.
Lately I've been thinking, they are not diminishing the sun rays to help with global warming, but creating a greenhouse effect to "increase" global warming. Yeah, that evil.
I am convinced there are a bunch of liars, who don't care
about the general population, but only their secret agendas.
Why nobody says anything, because it is totally useless. We can't do a damn thing. I mean we could, be we would be immediately dismissed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10968805


Distrust of authority and of those that might be in power is a big reason people keep looking for answers and don't believe what is in the mainstream media or from official sources like the AF, Science, NASA, NOAA etc. . . coffee4

I agree the general population has been lied to over and over again . . . and they wonder why we don't believe them anymore . . . 1rof1
Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter!

All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them.
Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642)

The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B
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George, you said you were in the middle..between both extremes, correct? Your only desire is to promote a balanced argument.

Why is it your -every post- has only been to provide alternative explanations?

Regardless of how "nice" you sound, regardless of how many "alternative" explanations you have, not a single one seems to bolster the idea of it BEING an actual chemtrail.

You are clearly biased, regardless of what you say past this post, and I encourage everyone reading this to identify George B as a biased misinformation source, and at worst a government shill.

Have a nice day.
 Quoting: Varius 33267812

I noticed this too.
Despite my detailed 'Chemtrails over Chicago' series of threads and posts to George. Eyewitnessed by me, with binoculars, 50X spotting scope, white jet tankers overhead, nozzles with plumes, collaborating satellite images, latitude longitude patterned, by the hour play by play, etc.

George, who wasn't in Chicago under the ADC Chemtrail operation, will reply:
"Have you considered cirrus cloud formation?" :)
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Interesting . . . I thought a potential use of Chemtrails was military countermeasures, communication, and cover for high altitude missions . . .
Saudi Pic 1991
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You are correct George. I see your Saudi Pic 1991 and raise you an entire thread about fogging in Chicago for air ops.
Thread: Chemtrails over Chicagoland 11-22-2009
Military countermeasures against US civilians!
Not to mention dangerous air interdiction exercises over 10 million people!

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George, you said you were in the middle..between both extremes, correct? Your only desire is to promote a balanced argument.

Why is it your -every post- has only been to provide alternative explanations?

Regardless of how "nice" you sound, regardless of how many "alternative" explanations you have, not a single one seems to bolster the idea of it BEING an actual chemtrail.

You are clearly biased, regardless of what you say past this post, and I encourage everyone reading this to identify George B as a biased misinformation source, and at worst a government shill.

Have a nice day.
 Quoting: Varius 33267812

I noticed this too.
Despite my detailed 'Chemtrails over Chicago' series of threads and posts to George. Eyewitnessed by me, with binoculars, 50X spotting scope, white jet tankers overhead, nozzles with plumes, collaborating satellite images, latitude longitude patterned, by the hour play by play, etc.

George, who wasn't in Chicago under the ADC Chemtrail operation, will reply:
"Have you considered cirrus cloud formation?" :)
 Quoting: uscrusader1


Cirrus cloud formation seems to have an overall warming effect and there are suggested mitigation schemes to reduce the number and frequency of cirrus cloud banks. . . . Crusader, I can not add to your observations nor can I suggest what is on going . . . I have stated what is in the air over Chicago at 30,000 feet plus is not likely to be something that targets Chicago if it has normal fall rates that is . . . it would have to form dropplets and basically rain .... That is unless its purpose is high altitude to reflect energy both up and down depending on the wavelength . . .goodnews

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Interesting . . . I thought a potential use of Chemtrails was military countermeasures, communication, and cover for high altitude missions . . .
Saudi Pic 1991
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You are correct George. I see your Saudi Pic 1991 and raise you an entire thread about fogging in Chicago for air ops.
Thread: Chemtrails over Chicagoland 11-22-2009
Military countermeasures against US civilians!
Not to mention dangerous air interdiction exercises over 10 million people!
 Quoting: uscrusader1


So what do you think the countermeasures are . . . remember the release altitudes have to match the mission?coffee4
Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter!

All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them.
Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642)

The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B
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bump
( of course #3 - it's not conspiracy it's in the skies and they were not such before, and yes there was air traffic as usually )
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Odd. From what I've seen, nobody notices anything in the sky until you point it out to them. Some people freak out when they notice that the moon is visible in daytime.
It's good to be open-minded, just don't let your brain fall out.
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Odd. From what I've seen, nobody notices anything in the sky until you point it out to them. Some people freak out when they notice that the moon is visible in daytime.
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Yes, Guy and once you see it you can't UN-see it either . . . grinning
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bump
( of course #3 - it's not conspiracy it's in the skies and they were not such before, and yes there was air traffic as usually )
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Thanks for your participation!!!! dasbier And the Bump!!!

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POLL: How were you introduced to the concept of the Chemtrail conspiracy?
3) I notice them first in the sky and started to ask questions 52.0% (154)
2) I visited a website and they talked about them 15.2% (45)
1) Someone (a friend, family, etc.) told me about Chemtrails 11.1% (33)
4) I was reading about a different conspiracy and they mentioned them . . . 8.1% (24)
9) Other . . . please specify 7.1% (21)
5) I saw a discussion on a YouTube video 4.1% (12)
7) I was watching TV and I saw a documentary on the History Channel 1.0% (3)
8) I had a dream about them and just knew 1.0% (3)
6) I was watching TV and there was a news story about them 0.3% (1)
Blank (View Results) (38)

Non-Blank Votes: 296
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All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them.
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Interesting . . . I thought a potential use of Chemtrails was military countermeasures, communication, and cover for high altitude missions . . .
Saudi Pic 1991
 Quoting: George B

You are correct George. I see your Saudi Pic 1991 and raise you an entire thread about fogging in Chicago for air ops.
Thread: Chemtrails over Chicagoland 11-22-2009
Military countermeasures against US civilians!
Not to mention dangerous air interdiction exercises over 10 million people!
 Quoting: uscrusader1


So what do you think the countermeasures are . . . remember the release altitudes have to match the mission?coffee4
 Quoting: George B


Nothing more sinister than observation obscurement. Socking in Chicago with a dense fog so the AirForce and DHS could play 'terrorist interdiction' above a densely populated city. The Chemtrails took a few days from +30,000 feet to get to ground level for the fog.
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Climate Denialism .... who knew?

This story first appeared on the Guardian website as part of the Climate Desk collaboration.

Conservative billionaires used a secretive funding route to channel nearly $120 million to more than 100 groups casting doubt about the science behind climate change, the Guardian has learned.

[link to www.motherjones.com]

By 2010, the dark money amounted to $118 million distributed to 102 think tanks or action groups which have a record of denying the existence of a human factor in climate change, or opposing environmental regulations.
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[link to www.geoengineeringwatch.org]


The intranasal route of exposure makes spraying of massive amounts of nanoaluminum into the skies especially hazardous, as it will be inhaled by people of all ages, including babies and small children for many hours. We know that older people have the greatest reaction to this airborne aluminum. Because of the nanosizing of the aluminum particles being used, home filtering system will not remove the aluminum, thus prolonging exposure, even indoors.

Steps need to be taken now to prevent an impending health disaster of enormous proportions if this project is not stopped immediately. Otherwise we will see an explosive increase in neurodegenerative diseases occurring in adults and the elderly in unprecedented rates as well as neurodevelopmental disorders in our children. We are already seeing a dramatic increase in these neurological disorders and it is occurring in younger people than ever before.

News