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A law enforcement official working on the investigation told the network a Coleman stove, cot and propane gas supplies were found inside Dorner’s Nissan Titan.

Two long-range rifles with suppressors and a Glock handgun were also reportedly recovered.

[link to losangeles.cbslocal.com]

Has anyone heard if they figured out what was used to start the fire?
 Quoting: BunnyGirl


No but I know the truck was wrecked also, and unconfirmed reports are that he tried to get it going again.

In other words, they dont think it was staged by Dorner, but then again thats impossible to prove. It would be smart to stage something like that and make it look like he was still in the Big Bear area stuck, when he;s really chillin somewhere comfy. Who knows... prolly only Dorner.
 Quoting: JR 33968321


Why then would you leave the weapons? Even the propane tank could be used for a diversion ... Why leave the weapons? unless you are freaking out and running thinking you are being tailed - but why then haven't they found him for two days?

baffling.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28689320


Could be a decoy. Could be he left extra equipment in vehicle because of surprise axle, but is carry enough to bunker down. You can live out of a big backpack for weeks or months if you have quality gear, knowledge, and drive. And I think he's got the execution penalty for motivation.
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That would make sense if they didn't print the date, time and address of the funeral in the paper and on the internet..... This is just bizarre!

You make a point about the spontaneity - thats why I keep wondering about the manifesto - the guy he killed wasn't named or even on the LAPD. The whole thing is just bizarre. Same with the first cop shooting - he would not have known they were LAPD because he was in Corona. Which by the way just to keep things interesting - THERE IS NO AM/PM on Magnolia at the I-15 on/off ramp area. The AM/PM is two miles down the road on Ontario. Does anyone have better links from the witness who allegedly flagged down the LAPD to follow the truck? And while we're talking about the place the cop shootings started - wouldn't there be surveillance video of the event? Has anyone seen links to that?
 Quoting: BunnyGirl


Or even a sketch of the routes where officers started tailing him and where the shooting actually took place - was it on the overpass or in a parking lot??
 Quoting: BunnyGirl


The officer he killed was stopped at a red light. He had just got in the first shootout(getting off 91 onto Magnolia) and was getting away. I think he did the second shootout to avoid being followed.


This is a very good timeline to keep up with. Its updated pretty well-
[link to projects.scpr.org]



This is the intersection where the second shootout was and officer killed:
[link to maps.google.com]

This shooting happened right where that white van is sitting, facing away from us, Im pretty sure.
 Quoting: JR 33968321


correction: thats not where the first officer shooting happened. that was somewhere in Corona that Im not sure of yet.

Im right about the second location where the officer was killed. Coming down Magnolia going NE, stopping at the light at the intersection with Arlington.

Now I just gotta go figure out exactly where the 1st shooting took place/
 Quoting: JR 33968321


CNN was parked next to the Mobil station at the I-15 offramp at Magnolia in Corona - right where 91 and I-15 intersect. The witness that flagged down the LAPD said he was at AM/PM but there is no AM/PM right there.
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Am I the only one who thinks this just another PSYOP?
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Did anyone hear them say ENEMY VEHICLES at school???
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They still aren't going to release the name of the deceased officer. Thats really different........

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 Quoting: BunnyGirl


I was wondering about this at first myself, but someone said its because theyre trying to keep the funeral and shit secret.

This kill by Dorner wasnt a planned event of targeting someone he knew, but rather a spontanoues one that happened by chance encounter, so its unlikely he knows the identity of who he killed.
 Quoting: JR 33968321


That would make sense if they didn't print the date, time and address of the funeral in the paper and on the internet..... This is just bizarre!

You make a point about the spontaneity - thats why I keep wondering about the manifesto - the guy he killed wasn't named or even on the LAPD. The whole thing is just bizarre. Same with the first cop shooting - he would not have known they were LAPD because he was in Corona. Which by the way just to keep things interesting - THERE IS NO AM/PM on Magnolia at the I-15 on/off ramp area. The AM/PM is two miles down the road on Ontario. Does anyone have better links from the witness who allegedly flagged down the LAPD to follow the truck? And while we're talking about the place the cop shootings started - wouldn't there be surveillance video of the event? Has anyone seen links to that?
 Quoting: BunnyGirl


Maybe they are trying to bait him?
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Dorner won't be brought in alive. They will shoot to kill. Dorner possesses too many secrets. Dead men don't talk.
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Well I'll tell you one thing, if I was him and I was innocent? I'd RUN LIKE HELL!!!
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Heaven knows, if they don't have any evidence regarding links to the other deaths, they'll find some. Like a gun that matches the bullets or something, in his truck, etc. He's not that stupid, so they better keep this clean as a whistle.
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 Quoting: JR 33968321


Wow, they are really scared.. total open fear displayed on behalf of the police. Its funny how quick the macho bulletproof "I-am-god-obey-and-respect-my-authority" tude evaporated instantly when faced with a skilled opponent.

Still, hope everybody stays safe.
 Quoting: EscapeVelocity


Regarding these pics an comments. I live out here in So.Cali and everyone knows and are aware of how awful the LAPD is not only to Black sand Mexicans but also disabled (deaf). I work at a deaf agency as an advocate in Riverside and at our meeting yesterday they said, well you know this has been going on for years with most cops in So.Cali ( I hear the complaints all the time - they wont give an intrepreter etc.... and mis handled them when arrested)... anyways - our local news said this morning, the cops who do find him know it will be a full assault shooting on them whomever finds him. So, it's either him or them. It's pretty trippy because the bad cops know when you are wrong - yet they gotta go after him now and maybe pay a price.
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Yes folks thats the only thing they claim to have to go on here. And btw that facebook account was created only 2 weeks ago, with ZERO friends, and no comments. He posted over a total of SIX days. Who did he expect to see the manifesto? Nobody was reading his facebook account.

Is there a possibility that the Irvine murders might be a separate incident than the cop shootings? Is there a possibility that this guy did not start the facebook page? Until we have the answers to those two questions (such as what weapons used in both murders, maybe some surveillance video, perhaps chasing down an IP address of facebook editor, etc) I'm not buying this story.
 Quoting: BunnyGirl



I got the feeling this guy was smart enough to create a presence for the media to grab hold of before starting his war.

What horrible pics would they have found elsewhere to splatter all over the news? He wanted to give the public a personality they could identify with and warm up to.

...I mean come on! Look at that smile! The guy has heart and looks like an honorable badass in service of his country.

Now take someone like that and fuck them in the ass like the LAPD did and you get what you have now. They ruined his life cause some stupid pig bitch had to kick a mentally retarded kid in the face after he was already restrained and this guy's conscious could not simply ignore that so he did something about it and they ruined him for it. Not just his job but his military career which was something he was very proud of.

These pigs are going to get what they deserve and they are the one's who caused this. NOT Dorner! they put him on this path that he now feel obligated to carry out. They took everything from him for nothing and what does a man do once he has nothing left to lose?


When there is no justice left what is one to do? ...well this guy is using his skills and training to do what he can.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8443185


I woke on the beach in la getting kicked in the head by a cop. I was asleep, in a sleeping bag, 4 am about. Had camping backpack. Kicked for nothing but being homeless. 2 years ago a cop in San Diego stole my passport, my only Id. Took 10 months to get Id back. Lots of ca cops out of control. I feel safer around real gang members.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6514674


Yup, and honestly it is good to see someone rise up like this.

Too bad he is bringing their family members into it but that is horror of their creation.

I think their greatest mistake was allowing someone without a low IQ into the department.

I bet this guy was high IQ. Wasn't he an intelligence officer in the military? No doubt they bypassed his low IQ requirement because of his military background to get accepted onto the police force. Their mistake... they thought they were getting someone perhaps getting someone who learned to like cruelty like they do and to just follow orders without question.
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New developments in the manhunt for Chris Dorner - new tactics, possible new sighting on surveillance tape

[link to twitter.com (secure)]
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OK so the first shootout, in Corona
with the police car involved pictured here
[link to blogs.mydesert.com]

happened here:
[link to maps.google.com]
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OK so the first shootout, in Corona
with the police car involved pictured here
[link to blogs.mydesert.com]

happened here:
[link to maps.google.com]
 Quoting: JR 33968321


a closer image of that car-
[link to media.redding.com]

and from the front:
[link to www.trbimg.com]


Dorner was being followed, stopped his truck and fired into the front of this police car
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Am i the only one listening to the scanner. Its big shit going on.
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New developments in the manhunt for Chris Dorner - new tactics, possible new sighting on surveillance tape

[link to twitter.com (secure)]
 Quoting: BunnyGirl


where is this new info? Link shows Valentines stuff and old info ... what is new info? or what am I missing here, please?
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OK so the first shootout, in Corona
with the police car involved pictured here
[link to blogs.mydesert.com]

happened here:
[link to maps.google.com]
 Quoting: JR 33968321


Thats the place alright. So my question is - the witness said he was at AM/PM and flagged down officers who then followed the truck. What AM/PM was he at when he flagged down officers - where did the pursuit begin?
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New developments in the manhunt for Chris Dorner - new tactics, possible new sighting on surveillance tape

[link to twitter.com (secure)]
 Quoting: BunnyGirl


where is this new info? Link shows Valentines stuff and old info ... what is new info? or what am I missing here, please?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28689320


refresh your screen - the valentines thing is third one down. They are basically baiting us to watch ABC7 at 11. Apparently new info to share with us.
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Am i the only one listening to the scanner. Its big shit going on.
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It's going down at a school...rifle sling in the bathroom..fire alarm pulled
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Am i the only one listening to the scanner. Its big shit going on.
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It's going down at a school...rifle sling in the bathroom..fire alarm pulled
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which scanner?
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Am i the only one listening to the scanner. Its big shit going on.
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It's going down at a school...rifle sling in the bathroom..fire alarm pulled
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which scanner?
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[link to www.broadcastify.com]
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Am i the only one listening to the scanner. Its big shit going on.
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koolaid
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Am i the only one listening to the scanner. Its big shit going on.
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It's going down at a school...rifle sling in the bathroom..fire alarm pulled
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which scanner?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1245696


[link to www.broadcastify.com]
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Do you know which school?
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Theres nothing heroic whatsoever about killing unarmed and innocent people, including women and children.
 Quoting: JR 33968321


No proof he killed the civilians. He is a suspect but not convicted. Dorner may well have been framed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34048954


There were many witnesses to the cop ambush. Many bystanders who helped.
 Quoting: Little Willow


Do you have any links to those witnesses? I haven't seen anything on them at all - not even on the news. Why were there people at that intersection at 2 in the morning?
 Quoting: BunnyGirl


I don't remember where I read it. It's was an article about how the surviving officer would have died without the aid of the people that came rushing over. I didn't think it happened in the middle of the night?
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There has been a fire set in the attic of the school...fire alarm pulled...rifle sling in bathroom...More diversion?
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A law enforcement official working on the investigation told the network a Coleman stove, cot and propane gas supplies were found inside Dorner’s Nissan Titan.

Two long-range rifles with suppressors and a Glock handgun were also reportedly recovered.

[link to losangeles.cbslocal.com]

Has anyone heard if they figured out what was used to start the fire?
 Quoting: BunnyGirl


No but I know the truck was wrecked also, and unconfirmed reports are that he tried to get it going again.

In other words, they dont think it was staged by Dorner, but then again thats impossible to prove. It would be smart to stage something like that and make it look like he was still in the Big Bear area stuck, when he;s really chillin somewhere comfy. Who knows... prolly only Dorner.
 Quoting: JR 33968321


I think he had more time to plan than we think he did. It has been assumed that being released from the Navy on the 1st is what set him off but he probably knew that would happen a week or maybe weeks before the 1st.

If so he had more than enough time to get another vehicle to Big Bear with the plan that after his first retaliations that he could abandon the truck in Big Bear, making them think he was still there, & use the other vehicle to get away.

Hesperia, where Hwy. 395 starts, is only 45 to 50 miles from Big Bear by road & less as the crow flies. Hwy. 395 goes all the way to Oregon up the Eastern side of California and is not heavily travelled in the winter except for skiers on way to Mammoth. Or instead of going too far north he could have cut back from 395 to L.A.

It would seem he would lay low for awhile though & go further north. But who knows - he could be anywhere.
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It's going down at a school...rifle sling in the bathroom..fire alarm pulled
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which scanner?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1245696


[link to www.broadcastify.com]
 Quoting: Requiemdream (Ghost)


Do you know which school?
 Quoting: BunnyGirl


No...didn't catch it
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No proof he killed the civilians. He is a suspect but not convicted. Dorner may well have been framed.
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There were many witnesses to the cop ambush. Many bystanders who helped.
 Quoting: Little Willow


Do you have any links to those witnesses? I haven't seen anything on them at all - not even on the news. Why were there people at that intersection at 2 in the morning?
 Quoting: BunnyGirl


I don't remember where I read it. It's was an article about how the surviving officer would have died without the aid of the people that came rushing over. I didn't think it happened in the middle of the night?
 Quoting: Little Willow


Yes it was 1:30 in the morning on the Corona shooting - the helicopters woke me up. It was 10-20 minutes later when the second shooting took place.

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Watching news now - Oh get this - the shed they searched yesterday was not Dorners and 'may' have belonged to a relative of Dorners...... Big question - what drove them there if the shed was not in his name?

A man claiming to be Chris Dorner called father of Monica Quan four days after the murders. Told him he should have done a better job of protecting his daughter. Supposedly happened 3 hours after cop shootings. That would make it 4 or 5 in the morning.

Surveillance at auto parts store in National City (San Diego) dumping items in dumpster.
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Watching news now - Oh get this - the shed they searched yesterday was not Dorners and 'may' have belonged to a relative of Dorners...... Big question - what drove them there if the shed was not in his name?

A man claiming to be Chris Dorner called father of Monica Quan four days after the murders. Told him he should have done a better job of protecting his daughter. Supposedly happened 3 hours after cop shootings. That would make it 4 or 5 in the morning.

Surveillance at auto parts store in National City (San Diego) dumping items in dumpster.
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was the shed/storage in buena park?
I wonder if school fire was diversion to pool resources
so he could get out?
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Watching news now - Oh get this - the shed they searched yesterday was not Dorners and 'may' have belonged to a relative of Dorners...... Big question - what drove them there if the shed was not in his name?

A man claiming to be Chris Dorner called father of Monica Quan four days after the murders. Told him he should have done a better job of protecting his daughter. Supposedly happened 3 hours after cop shootings. That would make it 4 or 5 in the morning.

Surveillance at auto parts store in National City (San Diego) dumping items in dumpster.
 Quoting: BunnyGirl



was the shed/storage in buena park?
I wonder if school fire was diversion to pool resources
so he could get out?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1245696


Yes Buena Park - wondering if there might have been a receipt at his mom's house or something.
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Sounds like an elementary school in Big Bear? Am I hearing this right?
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I'm just waiting for some tard to tie this in with Batman
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LOL! I hope not - that thing has been creepy so far - oh I hope not!!
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maybe rambro was a patsy stooge that was gonna be set up to take the fall for a false flag op (as california is now doing there gun control legislation)...........but sometimes things don't go according to plan.

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