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Yes folks thats the only thing they claim to have to go on here. And btw that facebook account was created only 2 weeks ago, with ZERO friends, and no comments. He posted over a total of SIX days. Who did he expect to see the manifesto? Nobody was reading his facebook account.

Is there a possibility that the Irvine murders might be a separate incident than the cop shootings? Is there a possibility that this guy did not start the facebook page? Until we have the answers to those two questions (such as what weapons used in both murders, maybe some surveillance video, perhaps chasing down an IP address of facebook editor, etc) I'm not buying this story.
 Quoting: BunnyGirl



I got the feeling this guy was smart enough to create a presence for the media to grab hold of before starting his war.

What horrible pics would they have found elsewhere to splatter all over the news? He wanted to give the public a personality they could identify with and warm up to.

...I mean come on! Look at that smile! The guy has heart and looks like an honorable badass in service of his country.

Now take someone like that and fuck them in the ass like the LAPD did and you get what you have now. They ruined his life cause some stupid pig bitch had to kick a mentally retarded kid in the face after he was already restrained and this guy's conscious could not simply ignore that so he did something about it and they ruined him for it. Not just his job but his military career which was something he was very proud of.

These pigs are going to get what they deserve and they are the one's who caused this. NOT Dorner! they put him on this path that he now feel obligated to carry out. They took everything from him for nothing and what does a man do once he has nothing left to lose?


When there is no justice left what is one to do? ...well this guy is using his skills and training to do what he can.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8443185

Wrong. HE is responsible for what he did. Many people are pushed to the brink, for many different reasons. When no justice is left what is one to do?! Really?? One is to deal with it. Not go on a sociopathic rage filled murdering spree.
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A law enforcement official working on the investigation told the network a Coleman stove, cot and propane gas supplies were found inside Dorner’s Nissan Titan.

Two long-range rifles with suppressors and a Glock handgun were also reportedly recovered.

[link to losangeles.cbslocal.com]

Has anyone heard if they figured out what was used to start the fire?
 Quoting: BunnyGirl


No but I know the truck was wrecked also, and unconfirmed reports are that he tried to get it going again.

In other words, they dont think it was staged by Dorner, but then again thats impossible to prove. It would be smart to stage something like that and make it look like he was still in the Big Bear area stuck, when he;s really chillin somewhere comfy. Who knows... prolly only Dorner.
 Quoting: JR 33968321


Why then would you leave the weapons? Even the propane tank could be used for a diversion ... Why leave the weapons? unless you are freaking out and running thinking you are being tailed - but why then haven't they found him for two days?

baffling.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28689320


Could be a decoy. Could be he left extra equipment in vehicle because of surprise axle, but is carry enough to bunker down. You can live out of a big backpack for weeks or months if you have quality gear, knowledge, and drive. And I think he's got the execution penalty for motivation.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6514674


Could be a misdirection move certainly.

I think this guy has patience and I think the cops assume he is going to try to hit them as fast as possible to rack of kills but I think he is going to wait and move and stalk hit then run and hide and then do it again. If he does have a 50cal he doesn't need to get close. Caught em off guard the first times. Now he goes sniper.

Right now they burning resources and are so paranoid they are shooting innocent civilians. to keep them at this level of alert only hurts the police. He waits somewhere safe till things calm down ...which may mean camping. but not in an area they think he might be.

He has been preparing ahead of time so he has a plan. He probably has a defendable hideout with a weapon stash somewhere. Thats where he would keep his launcher to take out any aircraft that may be brought to bare on his remote hard to access location.

I think him trying to steal a yacht to run to mexico was also a misdirection. He wanted them to think he was running when he is going to war. Does a guy who gets in a shoot out with cops and then goes to to the station to get a kill sound like someone who is running? no he took it straight to them and he will continue to do so in a timely manner.

Most cops are also a lousy shot so he doesn't have much to fear unless there is 3 or 4 of them unloading entire clips on him while he isn't moving. He can go head to head with them and everytime will do much more damage then they are capable of returning.
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Sounds like an elementary school in Big Bear? Am I hearing this right?
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McCoy Elem, scanner said.
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Sounds like an elementary school in Big Bear? Am I hearing this right?
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McCoy Elem, scanner said.
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Aw thanks :) She said it so fast I didn't realize until it was all done and said LOL!
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Sounds like an elementary school in Big Bear? Am I hearing this right?
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McCoy Elem, scanner said.
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The fire is out already, right? aka no big deal.

Did someone actually find a rifle sling in the bathroom??
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Sounds like an elementary school in Big Bear? Am I hearing this right?
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McCoy Elem, scanner said.
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correction, BB Elem
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Sounds like an elementary school in Big Bear? Am I hearing this right?
 Quoting: BunnyGirl


McCoy Elem, scanner said.
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The fire is out already, right? aka no big deal.

Did someone actually find a rifle sling in the bathroom??
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15201721


So far they have a rifle sling and 1 22 cal revolver...
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Sounds like an elementary school in Big Bear? Am I hearing this right?
 Quoting: BunnyGirl


McCoy Elem, scanner said.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25712172



The fire is out already, right? aka no big deal.

Did someone actually find a rifle sling in the bathroom??
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15201721


I don't think I'd recognize a rifle sling - I just can't picture one - unless they are kind of like a guitar strap.....
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Sounds like an elementary school in Big Bear? Am I hearing this right?
 Quoting: BunnyGirl


McCoy Elem, scanner said.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25712172



The fire is out already, right? aka no big deal.

Did someone actually find a rifle sling in the bathroom??
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15201721


So far they have a rifle sling and 1 22 cal revolver...
 Quoting: Requiemdream (Ghost)




You mean they are finding these weapons at the school? I don't understand... who has them, and why?
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Yes folks thats the only thing they claim to have to go on here. And btw that facebook account was created only 2 weeks ago, with ZERO friends, and no comments. He posted over a total of SIX days. Who did he expect to see the manifesto? Nobody was reading his facebook account.

Is there a possibility that the Irvine murders might be a separate incident than the cop shootings? Is there a possibility that this guy did not start the facebook page? Until we have the answers to those two questions (such as what weapons used in both murders, maybe some surveillance video, perhaps chasing down an IP address of facebook editor, etc) I'm not buying this story.
 Quoting: BunnyGirl



I got the feeling this guy was smart enough to create a presence for the media to grab hold of before starting his war.

What horrible pics would they have found elsewhere to splatter all over the news? He wanted to give the public a personality they could identify with and warm up to.

...I mean come on! Look at that smile! The guy has heart and looks like an honorable badass in service of his country.

Now take someone like that and fuck them in the ass like the LAPD did and you get what you have now. They ruined his life cause some stupid pig bitch had to kick a mentally retarded kid in the face after he was already restrained and this guy's conscious could not simply ignore that so he did something about it and they ruined him for it. Not just his job but his military career which was something he was very proud of.

These pigs are going to get what they deserve and they are the one's who caused this. NOT Dorner! they put him on this path that he now feel obligated to carry out. They took everything from him for nothing and what does a man do once he has nothing left to lose?


When there is no justice left what is one to do? ...well this guy is using his skills and training to do what he can.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8443185

Wrong. HE is responsible for what he did. Many people are pushed to the brink, for many different reasons. When no justice is left what is one to do?! Really?? One is to deal with it. Not go on a sociopathic rage filled murdering spree.
 Quoting: Little Willow

When is enough enough? When is there a breaking point?

Cops get to go around shooting and beating whoever and whatever they want for little to no reason at all with little to no repercussions.

They took a good man and made him a monster.

Keep in mind he is a soldier he was trained to kill. He was sanctioned to murder for the government and has likely already done so in patriotic service and is familiar with death. That being the case death no longer has the same weight it does for you or I.

You act like these cops are good people. They are not and are responsible for the death and suffering of many unjustly.

He discovered a big serious corruption problems first hand in the police department and it disillusioned him and ruined his life. You think it is all about himself and revenge? If so you are wrong. This is about bullshit that has been allowed to perpetuate and grow within our so called "peace keepers" service. There are very few good cops now and they keep their mouths shut and cover for the bad ones or they would lose their jobs and be a "no" cop just like this fellow.
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From: Christopher Jordan Dorner /7648
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Regarding CF# 07-004281


I know most of you who personally know me are in disbelief to hear from media reports that I am suspected of committing such horrendous murders and have taken drastic and shocking actions in the last couple of days. You are saying to yourself that this is completely out of character of the man you knew who always wore a smile wherever he was seen. I know I will be villified by the LAPD and the media. Unfortunately, this is a necessary evil that I do not enjoy but must partake and complete for substantial change to occur within the LAPD and reclaim my name. The department has not changed since the Rampart and Rodney King days. It has gotten worse. The consent decree should never have been lifted. The only thing that has evolved from the consent decree is those officers involved in the Rampart scandal and Rodney King incidents have since promoted to supervisor, commanders, and command staff, and executive positions.

The question is, what would you do to clear your name?

Name;
A word or set of words by which a person, animal, place, or thing is known, addressed, or referred to.

Name Synonyms;
reputation, title, appellation, denomination, repute.

A name is more than just a noun, verb, or adjective. It's your life, your legacy, your journey, sacrifices, and everything you've worked hard for every day of your life as and adolescent, young adult and adult. Don't let anybody tarnish it when you know you've live up to your own set of ethics and personal ethos. In 8/07 I reported an officer (Ofcr. xx xx/now a Sergeant), for kicking a suspect (excessive force) during a Use of Force while I was assigned as a patrol officer at LAPD's Harbor Division. While cuffing the suspect, (xx xx), xx kicked the suspect twice in the chest and once in the face. The kick to the face left a visible injury on the left cheek below the eye. Unfortunately after reporting it to supervisors and investigated by PSB (xx/xx), nothing was done. I had broken their supposed "Blue Line". Unfortunately, It's not JUST US, it's JUSTICE!!! In fact, 10 months later on 6/25/08, after already successfully completing probation, acquiring a basic Post Certificate, and Intermediate Post Certificate, I was relieved of duty by the LAPD while assigned to patrol at Southwest division. It is clear as day that the department retaliated toward me for reporting xx for kicking Mr. xx xx. The department stated that I had lied and made up the report that xx xx had kicked the suspect. I later went to a Board of Rights (department hearing for decision of continued employment) from 10/08 to 1/09. During this BOR hearing a video was played for the BOR panel where xx xx stated that he was indeed kicked by xx xx (video sent to multiple news agencies). In addition to xx xx stating he was kicked, his father xx xx, also stated that his son had stated he was kicked by an officer when he was arrested after being released from custody. This was all presented for the department at the BOR hearing. They still found me guilty and terminated me. What they didn't mention was that the BOR panel made up of Capt. xx xx, Capt. xx xx, and xx xx xx had a signigicant problem from the time the board was assembled. Capt. xx xx was a personal friend of xx xx from when he was her supervisor at Harbor station. That is a clear conflict of interest and I made my argument for his removal early and was denied. The advocate for the LAPD BOR was xx xx. xx also had a conflict of interest as she was xx friend and former partner from Harbor division where they both worked patrol together. I made my argument for her removal when I discovered her relation to xx and it was denied.
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Sounds like an elementary school in Big Bear? Am I hearing this right?
 Quoting: BunnyGirl


McCoy Elem, scanner said.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25712172



The fire is out already, right? aka no big deal.

Did someone actually find a rifle sling in the bathroom??
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15201721


I don't think I'd recognize a rifle sling - I just can't picture one - unless they are kind of like a guitar strap.....
 Quoting: BunnyGirl


It is...much like that
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The fire came from a heating unit. no big deal.
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The fire came from a heating unit. no big deal.
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OH...I see! Sort of all blended together there for a minute. Plus the scanner went off line a couple of times. Sorry bout that
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McCoy Elem, scanner said.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25712172



The fire is out already, right? aka no big deal.

Did someone actually find a rifle sling in the bathroom??
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15201721


So far they have a rifle sling and 1 22 cal revolver...
 Quoting: Requiemdream (Ghost)




You mean they are finding these weapons at the school? I don't understand... who has them, and why?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15201721


According to the 'story' he is leaving weapons behind like droppings. Left them with the truck too...idk, makes no sense to me at all...
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“Sticks and stones may break your bones but words can break hearts.”
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The fire came from a heating unit. no big deal.
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OH...I see! Sort of all blended together there for a minute. Plus the scanner went off line a couple of times. Sorry bout that
 Quoting: Requiemdream (Ghost)


I'm really confused - was the heating unit at the school? Was the 22 at the school? I'm no good at this listening to scanners - its quiet for so long I start doing something and then when talking starts I'm not paying attention......
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You have to be an idiot to believe this shit...

...word on the street is he like super rambo and he got a crazy long list. wow really?? I don't see a clear motive in his alledged actions but the motives for this story are pretty clear.
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Thread: POLICE PLAN TO USE SPY DRONES IN THE HUNT FOR CHRISTOPHER DORNER!!!!
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the internet is going out of style.
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On the scanner they said all rooms were clear except roof access so asked if they could just do a fly over for him - I wondered if it would be helicopter or drone doing that.
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On the scanner they said all rooms were clear except roof access so asked if they could just do a fly over for him - I wondered if it would be helicopter or drone doing that.
 Quoting: BunnyGirl


Helicopter...
One of these days... A *REAL* rain is gonna come and wash all this scum off the streets.
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On the scanner they said all rooms were clear except roof access so asked if they could just do a fly over for him - I wondered if it would be helicopter or drone doing that.
 Quoting: BunnyGirl


Helicopter...
 Quoting: Travis Bickle


Thanks :)

Awesome haircut btw.....
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The fire came from a heating unit. no big deal.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15201721


OH...I see! Sort of all blended together there for a minute. Plus the scanner went off line a couple of times. Sorry bout that
 Quoting: Requiemdream (Ghost)


I'm really confused - was the heating unit at the school? Was the 22 at the school? I'm no good at this listening to scanners - its quiet for so long I start doing something and then when talking starts I'm not paying attention......
 Quoting: BunnyGirl


As far as I could tell. There were references to any other calls.
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On the scanner they said all rooms were clear except roof access so asked if they could just do a fly over for him - I wondered if it would be helicopter or drone doing that.
 Quoting: BunnyGirl


Helicopter...
 Quoting: Travis Bickle


Thanks :)

Awesome haircut btw.....
 Quoting: BunnyGirl


No prob. Listen to the high pitched whine in the background when the pilot reports back to 18L8 (I think it was) who had found the hatches.
One of these days... A *REAL* rain is gonna come and wash all this scum off the streets.
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She mentioned code 33 earlier and things went really quiet. So they only use this channel if they have an absolute emergency need to now?
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“Sticks and stones may break your bones but words can break hearts.”
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The fire came from a heating unit. no big deal.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15201721


OH...I see! Sort of all blended together there for a minute. Plus the scanner went off line a couple of times. Sorry bout that
 Quoting: Requiemdream (Ghost)


I'm really confused - was the heating unit at the school? Was the 22 at the school? I'm no good at this listening to scanners - its quiet for so long I start doing something and then when talking starts I'm not paying attention......
 Quoting: BunnyGirl


As far as I could tell. There were references to any other calls.
 Quoting: Requiemdream (Ghost)


I hope so because I'm feeling like I must have ADHD or something - heard a lot of stuff but couldn't fit the pieces together...... How do they ever keep it straight?
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Def a chopper....
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OH...I see! Sort of all blended together there for a minute. Plus the scanner went off line a couple of times. Sorry bout that
 Quoting: Requiemdream (Ghost)


I'm really confused - was the heating unit at the school? Was the 22 at the school? I'm no good at this listening to scanners - its quiet for so long I start doing something and then when talking starts I'm not paying attention......
 Quoting: BunnyGirl


As far as I could tell. There were references to any other calls.
 Quoting: Requiemdream (Ghost)


I hope so because I'm feeling like I must have ADHD or something - heard a lot of stuff but couldn't fit the pieces together...... How do they ever keep it straight?
 Quoting: BunnyGirl


Gosh darn I meant WEREN'T any, sorry! LOL...Tired...2am here...too riveted to sleep!
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Maybe someone from the mountain tried to help him when his truck broke down, and he has this person(s), held hostage?

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