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Ok I have been following this since the beginning. The biggest thing that stands out is the lack of real information out there. We are told he is a bad ass that he was very good at his job and is one of the best of his training class very strong very well armed etc..
yet they say he is leaving gear all over the place and not in commonsense cache locations. for example he left a helmet belt and ammo in a dumpster WTF if he was planning on coming back for it why not in a drain under some rocks behind or in a grease dumpster one that would not be checked or thrown out regularly.

Then he supposedly left weapons and cold weather gear in a truck he then set on fire. where is the inventory list of what was in the truck? why wouldn't he bury the gear and rifle nearby as a back up, if all else fails.
why would he torch it what weapons where found where they like 22s or his .50 cal that makes a huge difference as far as analyzing this goes if it was what could be considered a primary weapon he may be trying to give up and dispose of his weapons. who knows what is going through his head now if its a simple bolt action or 22 that was found. that would tell me he is trying to leave false clues but without real information from the authorities we are at a serious disadvantage to try and figure this out.

In addition why has there been no further action by him, we don't know who shot at the 3rd officer and the 2 cops who where shot where attempting to pull him over so that was self defense and who knows who killed that couple that started this mess assuming it was him who killed the original couple and shot the 3rd cop that is only 2 in over a week actions he has taken.
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And the children of cops? The fiances of the children of cops?
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I wonder how other people in California who have lost children feel about this huge manhunt?

Many people have their children murdered, often by worse people than this guy (he did not, for example, rape and torture his victims) yet, at best, they get what they often see as a half hearted homicide investigation and many murderers remain at large. How do these parents of murdered children feel about the police "looking after their own"- do they feel cheated in any way by the disparity in responses?
 Quoting: zenobiaphobia


I had the same thought. Many have killed far more people and have not elicited a response like the one wer're seeing in this case. The double standard. The level of protection offered to those that were named as targets. Civilians would never get protection like under the same circumstances. What makes one's life more previous than another's ?
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Ok I have been following this since the beginning. The biggest thing that stands out is the lack of real information out there. We are told he is a bad ass that he was very good at his job and is one of the best of his training class very strong very well armed etc..
yet they say he is leaving gear all over the place and not in commonsense cache locations. for example he left a helmet belt and ammo in a dumpster WTF if he was planning on coming back for it why not in a drain under some rocks behind or in a grease dumpster one that would not be checked or thrown out regularly.

Then he supposedly left weapons and cold weather gear in a truck he then set on fire. where is the inventory list of what was in the truck? why wouldn't he bury the gear and rifle nearby as a back up, if all else fails.
why would he torch it what weapons where found where they like 22s or his .50 cal that makes a huge difference as far as analyzing this goes if it was what could be considered a primary weapon he may be trying to give up and dispose of his weapons. who knows what is going through his head now if its a simple bolt action or 22 that was found. that would tell me he is trying to leave false clues but without real information from the authorities we are at a serious disadvantage to try and figure this out.

In addition why has there been no further action by him, we don't know who shot at the 3rd officer and the 2 cops who where shot where attempting to pull him over so that was self defense and who knows who killed that couple that started this mess assuming it was him who killed the original couple and shot the 3rd cop that is only 2 in over a week actions he has taken.
 Quoting: Desertwolf


I saw an interview on TV of an ex police chief who said this guy is not that dangerous as people make him sound. The guy had just BASIC police training, just enough to allow him to get in a patrol car alone. He was ex-Navy and was assigned to a support unit and had NOTHING to do with combat (he was stuck on a ship). I served in the Army and Navy for 12 years, this guys a punk next to the training I got. I run into him I'm 100% positive I'd take him down in quick fashion.
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Ok I have been following this since the beginning. The biggest thing that stands out is the lack of real information out there. We are told he is a bad ass that he was very good at his job and is one of the best of his training class very strong very well armed etc..
yet they say he is leaving gear all over the place and not in commonsense cache locations. for example he left a helmet belt and ammo in a dumpster WTF if he was planning on coming back for it why not in a drain under some rocks behind or in a grease dumpster one that would not be checked or thrown out regularly.

Then he supposedly left weapons and cold weather gear in a truck he then set on fire. where is the inventory list of what was in the truck? why wouldn't he bury the gear and rifle nearby as a back up, if all else fails.
why would he torch it what weapons where found where they like 22s or his .50 cal that makes a huge difference as far as analyzing this goes if it was what could be considered a primary weapon he may be trying to give up and dispose of his weapons. who knows what is going through his head now if its a simple bolt action or 22 that was found. that would tell me he is trying to leave false clues but without real information from the authorities we are at a serious disadvantage to try and figure this out.

In addition why has there been no further action by him, we don't know who shot at the 3rd officer and the 2 cops who where shot where attempting to pull him over so that was self defense and who knows who killed that couple that started this mess assuming it was him who killed the original couple and shot the 3rd cop that is only 2 in over a week actions he has taken.
 Quoting: Desertwolf


I suspect there's a lot of disinformation being put out.
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And the children of cops? The fiances of the children of cops?
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I wonder how other people in California who have lost children feel about this huge manhunt?

Many people have their children murdered, often by worse people than this guy (he did not, for example, rape and torture his victims) yet, at best, they get what they often see as a half hearted homicide investigation and many murderers remain at large. How do these parents of murdered children feel about the police "looking after their own"- do they feel cheated in any way by the disparity in responses?
 Quoting: zenobiaphobia


I had the same thought. Many have killed far more people and have not elicited a response like the one wer're seeing in this case. The double standard. The level of protection offered to those that were named as targets. Civilians would never get protection like under the same circumstances. What makes one's life more previous than another's ?
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Oops previous should be -> precious
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MANHUNT SOUNDS SO GAY
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I think it was the name of a soft gay porn magazine from the 70s. You must have looked at it back then.
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And the children of cops? The fiances of the children of cops?
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I wonder how other people in California who have lost children feel about this huge manhunt?

Many people have their children murdered, often by worse people than this guy (he did not, for example, rape and torture his victims) yet, at best, they get what they often see as a half hearted homicide investigation and many murderers remain at large. How do these parents of murdered children feel about the police "looking after their own"- do they feel cheated in any way by the disparity in responses?
 Quoting: zenobiaphobia


I had the same thought. Many have killed far more people and have not elicited a response like the one wer're seeing in this case. The double standard. The level of protection offered to those that were named as targets. Civilians would never get protection like under the same circumstances. What makes one's life more previous than another's ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7658320


It's because the bird they're hunting can sing a whole opera, which could take down the LAPD's candy castle. You can tell from names/dates on his manifesto, he's been very good at documentation, even though he spelled Know "now" toward the end, I found him resonably literate.
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A new angle to this thing: the Grammys are today in downtown LA.

There will be lots of sitting duck cops for security, directing traffic, etc.

Could Dorner possibly strike again around that area?

Uh oh...
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02/10/2013 05:40 AM
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What kind of truck was it that had the busted axel? I'm not buying that truck.
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What kind of truck was it that had the busted axel? I'm not buying that truck.
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It's because the bird they're hunting can sing a whole opera, which could take down the LAPD's candy castle. You can tell from names/dates on his manifesto, he's been very good at documentation, even though he spelled Know "now" toward the end, I found him resonably literate.
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*reasonably - consider yourself red-penned.

You also need to retype that "the bird they're hunting can sing a whole opera, which could take down the LAPD's candy castle" line. This time type in a James Cagney voice. It'll be awesomely film noir.

I believe we are seeing a very public psychological operation in play here. Do I believe this Dormer fellow has snapped and gone rogue? Yes indeedy.

LAPD's SIS are a group of very crafty cops who use improvization, deception, surveillance, top investigative skills and violence of action to capture or kill the worst criminals in their jurisdiction - from serial killers to bank robbery crews, to gangs, to... rogue former policemen working their way down a hit list.

Knowing as we do that it's likely Dormer suffers from some type of a pathological narcissism disorder, some creative editing of his letter may be a good way to make him surface. They are probably of the opinion that he will attempt to contact the media to "correct" his manifesto. They could be right, time will tell...

I believe that the recent announcement by the LAPD's Chief of Police that they would investigate Dormer's claims is a second attempt at flushing him out. They may expect the bad guy to make contact in order to clear his name or "testify" at an internal affairs inquiry. Obviously it's a ruse.

I get the feeling that this could be bigger than the Rodney King incident if it ends badly. By "ends badly", I mean if Dormer is taken into custody alive rather than killed in a shootout or by suicide. He will be a martyr whether he takes a .40 cal tylenol and goes down for the dirt nap with Baby Jesus or not, but he is able to inflict far less damage to his former police colleagues and their department if he's a dead martyr. If he survives and pleads "not guilty", it may become scary. In California there are precedents of "sure-thing" murder convictions resulting in acquittal. The famous OJ Simpson trial is just one example. That scenario would be an absolute nightmare for the City of Los Angeles.

It will be interesting to see how this all pans out.
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I got the feeling this guy was smart enough to create a presence for the media to grab hold of before starting his war.

What horrible pics would they have found elsewhere to splatter all over the news? He wanted to give the public a personality they could identify with and warm up to.

...I mean come on! Look at that smile! The guy has heart and looks like an honorable badass in service of his country.

Now take someone like that and fuck them in the ass like the LAPD did and you get what you have now. They ruined his life cause some stupid pig bitch had to kick a mentally retarded kid in the face after he was already restrained and this guy's conscious could not simply ignore that so he did something about it and they ruined him for it. Not just his job but his military career which was something he was very proud of.

These pigs are going to get what they deserve and they are the one's who caused this. NOT Dorner! they put him on this path that he now feel obligated to carry out. They took everything from him for nothing and what does a man do once he has nothing left to lose?


When there is no justice left what is one to do? ...well this guy is using his skills and training to do what he can.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8443185

Wrong. HE is responsible for what he did. Many people are pushed to the brink, for many different reasons. When no justice is left what is one to do?! Really?? One is to deal with it. Not go on a sociopathic rage filled murdering spree.
 Quoting: Little Willow

When is enough enough? When is there a breaking point?

Cops get to go around shooting and beating whoever and whatever they want for little to no reason at all with little to no repercussions.

They took a good man and made him a monster.

Keep in mind he is a soldier he was trained to kill. He was sanctioned to murder for the government and has likely already done so in patriotic service and is familiar with death. That being the case death no longer has the same weight it does for you or I.

You act like these cops are good people. They are not and are responsible for the death and suffering of many unjustly.

He discovered a big serious corruption problems first hand in the police department and it disillusioned him and ruined his life. You think it is all about himself and revenge? If so you are wrong. This is about bullshit that has been allowed to perpetuate and grow within our so called "peace keepers" service. There are very few good cops now and they keep their mouths shut and cover for the bad ones or they would lose their jobs and be a "no" cop just like this fellow.
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Sad.

No,this isn't how normal people with a conscience handle things.
 Quoting: Little Willow

You still don't get it.

How do cops without a conscious handle things?

How far would you let them push you... how far would you let them push innocent people and when they are the law what are you going to do about it? there is no legal recourse. You are one of those people that just stand by and do nothing because doing something violate your so called conscious?

This is life and death. Dorner is defending his country.

You think I am condoning murder? at what point do you care enough about your country and your people that you are willing to die and kill for it? That is what is in this guy.... honor(soldier's honor) Very rare things these days and even rarer still to find it in someone capable of making a difference. Dorner is making a difference. The bigger mess this all becomes the more likely it will lead to policy changes and differences in how the police do their job. Perhaps more legal recourse against police brutality.

...and you are right he is not "normal". He is better then normal. Normal is to be a common sheeple. With a single layer "rule book" of morals you use and no sight of the bigger picture.
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And the children of cops? The fiances of the children of cops?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 589518


I wonder how other people in California who have lost children feel about this huge manhunt?

Many people have their children murdered, often by worse people than this guy (he did not, for example, rape and torture his victims) yet, at best, they get what they often see as a half hearted homicide investigation and many murderers remain at large. How do these parents of murdered children feel about the police "looking after their own"- do they feel cheated in any way by the disparity in responses?
 Quoting: zenobiaphobia


I had the same thought. Many have killed far more people and have not elicited a response like the one wer're seeing in this case. The double standard. The level of protection offered to those that were named as targets. Civilians would never get protection like under the same circumstances. What makes one's life more previous than another's ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7658320


It's because the bird they're hunting can sing a whole opera, which could take down the LAPD's candy castle. You can tell from names/dates on his manifesto, he's been very good at documentation, even though he spelled Know "now" toward the end, I found him resonably literate.
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Correct. He was quite literate too. I'm guessing the circumstances of the situation and the sheer volume of everything he was trying to put out there would affect the quality of his writing a bit.
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Wrong. HE is responsible for what he did. Many people are pushed to the brink, for many different reasons. When no justice is left what is one to do?! Really?? One is to deal with it. Not go on a sociopathic rage filled murdering spree.
 Quoting: Little Willow

When is enough enough? When is there a breaking point?

Cops get to go around shooting and beating whoever and whatever they want for little to no reason at all with little to no repercussions.

They took a good man and made him a monster.

Keep in mind he is a soldier he was trained to kill. He was sanctioned to murder for the government and has likely already done so in patriotic service and is familiar with death. That being the case death no longer has the same weight it does for you or I.

You act like these cops are good people. They are not and are responsible for the death and suffering of many unjustly.

He discovered a big serious corruption problems first hand in the police department and it disillusioned him and ruined his life. You think it is all about himself and revenge? If so you are wrong. This is about bullshit that has been allowed to perpetuate and grow within our so called "peace keepers" service. There are very few good cops now and they keep their mouths shut and cover for the bad ones or they would lose their jobs and be a "no" cop just like this fellow.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8443185

Sad.

No,this isn't how normal people with a conscience handle things.
 Quoting: Little Willow

You still don't get it.

How do cops without a conscious handle things?

How far would you let them push you... how far would you let them push innocent people and when they are the law what are you going to do about it? there is no legal recourse. You are one of those people that just stand by and do nothing because doing something violate your so called conscious?

This is life and death. Dorner is defending his country.

You think I am condoning murder? at what point do you care enough about your country and your people that you are willing to die and kill for it? That is what is in this guy.... honor(soldier's honor) Very rare things these days and even rarer still to find it in someone capable of making a difference. Dorner is making a difference. The bigger mess this all becomes the more likely it will lead to policy changes and differences in how the police do their job. Perhaps more legal recourse against police brutality.

...and you are right he is not "normal". He is better then normal. Normal is to be a common sheeple. With a single layer "rule book" of morals you use and no sight of the bigger picture.
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Well said.
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It's because the bird they're hunting can sing a whole opera, which could take down the LAPD's candy castle. You can tell from names/dates on his manifesto, he's been very good at documentation, even though he spelled Know "now" toward the end, I found him resonably literate.
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*reasonably - consider yourself red-penned.

You also need to retype that "the bird they're hunting can sing a whole opera, which could take down the LAPD's candy castle" line. This time type in a James Cagney voice. It'll be awesomely film noir.

I believe we are seeing a very public psychological operation in play here. Do I believe this Dormer fellow has snapped and gone rogue? Yes indeedy.

LAPD's SIS are a group of very crafty cops who use improvization, deception, surveillance, top investigative skills and violence of action to capture or kill the worst criminals in their jurisdiction - from serial killers to bank robbery crews, to gangs, to... rogue former policemen working their way down a hit list.

Knowing as we do that it's likely Dormer suffers from some type of a pathological narcissism disorder, some creative editing of his letter may be a good way to make him surface. They are probably of the opinion that he will attempt to contact the media to "correct" his manifesto. They could be right, time will tell...

I believe that the recent announcement by the LAPD's Chief of Police that they would investigate Dormer's claims is a second attempt at flushing him out. They may expect the bad guy to make contact in order to clear his name or "testify" at an internal affairs inquiry. Obviously it's a ruse.

I get the feeling that this could be bigger than the Rodney King incident if it ends badly. By "ends badly", I mean if Dormer is taken into custody alive rather than killed in a shootout or by suicide. He will be a martyr whether he takes a .40 cal tylenol and goes down for the dirt nap with Baby Jesus or not, but he is able to inflict far less damage to his former police colleagues and their department if he's a dead martyr. If he survives and pleads "not guilty", it may become scary. In California there are precedents of "sure-thing" murder convictions resulting in acquittal. The famous OJ Simpson trial is just one example. That scenario would be an absolute nightmare for the City of Los Angeles.

It will be interesting to see how this all pans out.
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I don't think he'll contact them even with the bait of clearing his name dangling out there. He knows it's a ruse. He's all too familiar with how they operate. I also have a feeling he may be far more capable and skilled than we've been led to believe.
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My money says he made it to his hideout on the mountain. He will probably shoot himself. Who knows when his corpse will be found.
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I agree.
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The LA judicial circus has been reeling since they dropped the ball on OJ. He is correct that the slime from the days of Rodney King have made their way into upper brass, go figure.

I think we are seeing our first domestic terror perp. By choice or is it contrived? Remains to be seen. Maybe he drank too much Kool_Aid.
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The LA judicial circus has been reeling since they dropped the ball on OJ. He is correct that the slime from the days of Rodney King have made their way into upper brass, go figure.

I think we are seeing our first domestic terror perp. By choice or is it contrived? Remains to be seen. Maybe he drank too much Kool_Aid.
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Seems to me like Dorner is an habitual loser. Maybe that's not his fault. We know from one of his purported manifestos that he's never been plugged into black culture and yet he suffered racism at school/work. There's a good chance that he didn't see himself as a black man (or a white/red/yellow man), just as a dude - an American. Yet, he was always hitting a wall, an undercurrent of having to prove himself. Accordingly he sought out opportunities to prove himself - first an attempted USMC enlistment but was rejected due to physical fitness issues. Then Naval OCS is appointed an Ensign in the US Navy. He washes out of basic flight school because he gets air sick and couldn't deal with the theoretical and physics side of things. Eventually he washes out as a cop.

To have a Sergeant riding with you as your training officer while you're a probationary officer means you're a fuckup. In the video that was released recently showing him in his LAPD training, he fucked up his weapons handling, both on the range and during the defensive tactics session. He talks about a negligent discharge in his "manifesto". The story behind this was that he shot himself while off duty with a personal weapon. Obviously it was a superficial wound, but it counted against him and could well have led to an administrative review and a training officer riding shotgun with him to make sure he didn't accidentally fire his issued service weapon.

I see a man who's been given or has taken every opportunity to succeed, but has failed at everything which has ever been important to him - through an actual inability to meet the demands, or due to an inability to focus and apply himself.

Not all of the material in this post has been publicly released yet, but it will be - then we'll see quite a different Christopher Dorner than the cop-killing, acronym throwing wannabe Navy commando we are being presented with at the moment. Use him as a symbol of resistance to a corrupt system if you like, but realize he's a paper tiger - essentially an habitual loser who blames everyone but himself.
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My money says he made it to his hideout on the mountain. He will probably shoot himself. Who knows when his corpse will be found.
 Quoting: Delbert_Boogerbelt


I agree.
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Disagree. To the east of Big Bear, down off the mountain is a vast desert area, where 29 Palms and the Marine base are....lots of uninhabited area, lots of abandoned shacks. Through there is the back way to Las Vegas where his house is located. My guess is he knows that territory well. He would be a fool to stay any where near Big Bear.
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My money says he made it to his hideout on the mountain. He will probably shoot himself. Who knows when his corpse will be found.
 Quoting: Delbert_Boogerbelt


I agree.
 Quoting: Lime Flavoured Redux

Disagree. To the east of Big Bear, down off the mountain is a vast desert area, where 29 Palms and the Marine base are....lots of uninhabited area, lots of abandoned shacks. Through there is the back way to Las Vegas where his house is located. My guess is he knows that territory well. He would be a fool to stay any where near Big Bear.
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I disagree as well.

Did you even read his manifesto? Assuming it's his, he has no intention of going out without a fight.
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."

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My money says he made it to his hideout on the mountain. He will probably shoot himself. Who knows when his corpse will be found.
 Quoting: Delbert_Boogerbelt


I agree.
 Quoting: Lime Flavoured Redux

Disagree. To the east of Big Bear, down off the mountain is a vast desert area, where 29 Palms and the Marine base are....lots of uninhabited area, lots of abandoned shacks. Through there is the back way to Las Vegas where his house is located. My guess is he knows that territory well. He would be a fool to stay any where near Big Bear.
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I disagree as well.

Did you even read his manifesto? Assuming it's his, he has no intention of going out without a fight.
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I read the manifesto before it got edited. It rang true to me and he considers himself already dead and has named all his targets. That he remains on the loose seems proof enough he has the abilities he claims.
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Use him as a symbol of resistance to a corrupt system if you like, but realize he's a paper tiger - essentially an habitual loser who blames everyone but himself.
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And we hire someone like this to be a police officer, why?

How many other members of the force fit this same description, at this very moment? Is another Frank Wuterich manning the roadblocks?

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Frank Wuterich (born 1980) is a United States Marine. On November 19, 2005, he led his men in the Haditha killings, where he and fellow Marines opened fire, resulting in the death of 24 civilians, after a Marine had died in an insurgent attack
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And we hire someone like this to be a police officer, why?

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It's rather difficult to equate the two.
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BNO News: Authorities to announce reward today for the capture of ex-LAPD cop wanted for 3 murders
Open mind required !

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It's because the bird they're hunting can sing a whole opera, which could take down the LAPD's candy castle. You can tell from names/dates on his manifesto, he's been very good at documentation, even though he spelled Know "now" toward the end, I found him resonably literate.
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*reasonably - consider yourself red-penned.

You also need to retype that "the bird they're hunting can sing a whole opera, which could take down the LAPD's candy castle" line. This time type in a James Cagney voice. It'll be awesomely film noir.

I believe we are seeing a very public psychological operation in play here. Do I believe this Dormer fellow has snapped and gone rogue? Yes indeedy.

LAPD's SIS are a group of very crafty cops who use improvization, deception, surveillance, top investigative skills and violence of action to capture or kill the worst criminals in their jurisdiction - from serial killers to bank robbery crews, to gangs, to... rogue former policemen working their way down a hit list.

Knowing as we do that it's likely Dormer suffers from some type of a pathological narcissism disorder, some creative editing of his letter may be a good way to make him surface. They are probably of the opinion that he will attempt to contact the media to "correct" his manifesto. They could be right, time will tell...

I believe that the recent announcement by the LAPD's Chief of Police that they would investigate Dormer's claims is a second attempt at flushing him out. They may expect the bad guy to make contact in order to clear his name or "testify" at an internal affairs inquiry. Obviously it's a ruse.

I get the feeling that this could be bigger than the Rodney King incident if it ends badly. By "ends badly", I mean if Dormer is taken into custody alive rather than killed in a shootout or by suicide. He will be a martyr whether he takes a .40 cal tylenol and goes down for the dirt nap with Baby Jesus or not, but he is able to inflict far less damage to his former police colleagues and their department if he's a dead martyr. If he survives and pleads "not guilty", it may become scary. In California there are precedents of "sure-thing" murder convictions resulting in acquittal. The famous OJ Simpson trial is just one example. That scenario would be an absolute nightmare for the City of Los Angeles.

It will be interesting to see how this all pans out.
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This is why I think he wont be found alive.
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02/10/2013 11:20 AM
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Is there something wrong with my scanner feed or is there virtually nothing happening now
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02/10/2013 11:23 AM
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Who knows!! This man could be totally innocent and was set up by the new world order globalist who can make a saint a raving killer!! Look at his picture, does he look evil and like a mad police killer!!??? Something is wrong!! After all, the new world order loves framing people for things that they themselves have done!! Most of what we see are all lies and deceptions and facades anyway!!
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02/10/2013 11:24 AM

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Is there something wrong with my scanner feed or is there virtually nothing happening now
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They said last night that the FBI and the rest of the organizations are setting up a command center.
Im thinking they have switched their communication to a secure channel.
They know Dorner could be listing in on their efforts to find him.
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02/10/2013 11:25 AM

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I would be interested in knowing: Is anyone running a list of these "ex-professionals" that are "snapping" lately, and have "died" or "suicided" after a major media frenzy? My curiosity was tweaked with the Stephen Ivens case.
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