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California Manhunt

 
BossBitch

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Is there something wrong with my scanner feed or is there virtually nothing happening now
 Quoting: BossBitch

They said last night that the FBI and the rest of the organizations are setting up a command center.
Im thinking they have switched their communication to a secure channel.
They know Dorner could be listing in on their efforts to find him.
 Quoting: Force King


Lame! Thanks for the info
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Is there something wrong with my scanner feed or is there virtually nothing happening now
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Not even virtually, but actually. Perhaps everyone took the day off to go to church.
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Here's the video of Dorner throwing things into a dumpster - they released it last night.

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The truck does not have the rack on the roof in the LV picture.

Dorner's truck is parked in front of his Las Vegas house in this google streetview shot:

[link to maps.google.com]

[link to pbs.twimg.com]

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You can see the rack in the dumpster video.

The second truck down in San Diego with his plates on it does not have the rack.
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bunnygirl

links not working.
so is it fake or he removed the rack?
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You can see the rack in the dumpster video.

The second truck down in San Diego with his plates on it does not have the rack.
 Quoting: BunnyGirl


Here's a pic of the second truck in San Diego (Poway actually)

[link to www.nbcsandiego.com]
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bunnygirl

links not working.
so is it fake or he removed the rack?
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I fixed the links. Sorry about that.

I have no idea what is fake or what is real. Just that the rack apparently means something because that is the description put out at first included the rack......
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I see racks at 0:03
hiding
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Here's the video of Dorner throwing things into a dumpster - they released it last night.


 Quoting: BunnyGirl


Leaving the stuff in San Diego was to throw them off thinking he was going south to Mexico.

Just like burning the truck in Big Bear made them think he is wondering around in the mountains.

Just like it was ploy last time it is this time.... and they bought it hook, line and sinker.
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:CDTruck1:
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I dont know about guns, but there are so many bullets. It looks like they used semi auto weapons and maybe reloaded? Is that an asenine observation? Seems like a lot for a regular gun.
 Quoting: BunnyGirl


Not sure what your knowledge base is with guns, but MOST guns are semi-automatic. Semi-automatic just means that every time you pull the trigger, it fires, until the clip is empty. Most handguns are semi automatic. ALL standard police issue guns are semi-auto. I don't know if perhaps you meant FULLY automatic?.....but yes....they were absolutely semi-automatic.
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so he had at least two trucks, houses, gear ... he was doing good, had a life it seems according to material goods ... gets canned from military and blames LAPD allegedly, I wonder if people in the LAPD were contacted about him and they threw him under the bus?

We lost his position and was about to lose is income flow, lose his positions? I wonder the current status of his house, cars ... paid for? under loan? in red?

Hmm
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so he had at least two trucks, houses, gear ... he was doing good, had a life it seems according to material goods ... gets canned from military and blames LAPD allegedly, I wonder if people in the LAPD were contacted about him and they threw him under the bus?

We lost his position and was about to lose is income flow, lose his positions? I wonder the current status of his house, cars ... paid for? under loan? in red?

Hmm
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crap - early, sorry for bad grammar
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I dont know about guns, but there are so many bullets. It looks like they used semi auto weapons and maybe reloaded? Is that an asenine observation? Seems like a lot for a regular gun.
 Quoting: BunnyGirl


Not sure what your knowledge base is with guns, but MOST guns are semi-automatic. Semi-automatic just means that every time you pull the trigger, it fires, until the clip is empty. Most handguns are semi automatic. ALL standard police issue guns are semi-auto. I don't know if perhaps you meant FULLY automatic?.....but yes....they were absolutely semi-automatic.
 Quoting: CowboyEE


When I read my reply, it could be misunderstood. What I'm saying is, the gun will fire a single bullet each time you pull the trigger, as fast as you can pull the trigger, until the magazine is empty. :) Hope that helps.
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I dont know about guns, but there are so many bullets. It looks like they used semi auto weapons and maybe reloaded? Is that an asenine observation? Seems like a lot for a regular gun.
 Quoting: BunnyGirl


Not sure what your knowledge base is with guns, but MOST guns are semi-automatic. Semi-automatic just means that every time you pull the trigger, it fires, until the clip is empty. Most handguns are semi automatic. ALL standard police issue guns are semi-auto. I don't know if perhaps you meant FULLY automatic?.....but yes....they were absolutely semi-automatic.
 Quoting: CowboyEE


Whoa where did you get that quote? I never said any such thing! Thanks for the tidbits on semi-auto - I understand clearly what that means - why would someone post something under my name I did not say? Thats really irritating!
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Ii don't think he would be at all foolish to stay in Big Bear/Lake Elsinore/etc., area. There are tons of summer homes and condos there that are empty most of the year. People love to visit the area but no one wants the major schlep up and down the hills every time they need to do serious shopping. It's beautiful when it's snowed in but then again, you are snowed in. Let the power or gas go down and you've got people freezing to death fast.

There are at least a couple of dozen vacant condos in one area on the outskirts of Lake Elsinore. They're all built like little town houses with the garage at street level and the two or three stories above it making up the kitchen, family room, living room, baths The bedrooms are usually up on the 2nd and 3rd floors along with more bathrooms. Some of these condos are very large - like 1800 sq feet per floor x four floors counting the garage level. Many have residential elevators and are done to the nines. Most of them that are vacation homes have serious supplies already stocked and locked up in the freezers or a wine cellar and/or root cellar. He could get access to any one of those and be surfing the web, enjoying the house, and if he knows who the owners are (easy enough to do once your inside the place) he could even call the HOA and tell them it was Mr. So and So Owner and their friends were going to be using the house for a couple of weeks- and their use was fully okay, etc.

Doing something like that - he could stay up there for months! And never have to venture out if he didn't choose to. He could also probably find the keys and a car in most of the garages. Many families keep a second or third car up there just to have something to run to the store in or up and own the hills in wo their big Mercedes or BMW's won't be beat up on the snowy roads, etc.


My money says he made it to his hideout on the mountain. He will probably shoot himself. Who knows when his corpse will be found.
 Quoting: Delbert_Boogerbelt


I agree.
 Quoting: Lime Flavoured Redux

Disagree. To the east of Big Bear, down off the mountain is a vast desert area, where 29 Palms and the Marine base are....lots of uninhabited area, lots of abandoned shacks. Through there is the back way to Las Vegas where his house is located. My guess is he knows that territory well. He would be a fool to stay any where near Big Bear.
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Not sure what your knowledge base is with guns, but MOST guns are semi-automatic. Semi-automatic just means that every time you pull the trigger, it fires, until the clip is empty. Most handguns are semi automatic. ALL standard police issue guns are semi-auto. I don't know if perhaps you meant FULLY automatic?.....but yes....they were absolutely semi-automatic.
 Quoting: CowboyEE


Whoa where did you get that quote? I never said any such thing! Thanks for the tidbits on semi-auto - I understand clearly what that means - why would someone post something under my name I did not say? Thats really irritating!
 Quoting: J&V


AC 9243458 appears to be where the bogus posting started. WTH is that - what is the purpose? Maybe to validate what I've been saying in my original post about how easy it is to post something on the internet under someone else's name? Thats irony for ya.......
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Not sure what your knowledge base is with guns, but MOST guns are semi-automatic. Semi-automatic just means that every time you pull the trigger, it fires, until the clip is empty. Most handguns are semi automatic. ALL standard police issue guns are semi-auto. I don't know if perhaps you meant FULLY automatic?.....but yes....they were absolutely semi-automatic.
 Quoting: CowboyEE


Whoa where did you get that quote? I never said any such thing! Thanks for the tidbits on semi-auto - I understand clearly what that means - why would someone post something under my name I did not say? Thats really irritating!
 Quoting: J&V


I did not quote you either, This happened to me on pg 16 and I made comment on page 17. Someone has cut and pasted other quotes into yours and I's previous comments. Not Cool!
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Whoa where did you get that quote? I never said any such thing! Thanks for the tidbits on semi-auto - I understand clearly what that means - why would someone post something under my name I did not say? Thats really irritating!
 Quoting: J&V


I did not quote you either, This happened to me on pg 16 and I made comment on page 17. Someone has cut and pasted other quotes into yours and I's previous comments. Not Cool!
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Maybe the shills are upping their tactics of derailment?
Look alive people!
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Whoa where did you get that quote? I never said any such thing! Thanks for the tidbits on semi-auto - I understand clearly what that means - why would someone post something under my name I did not say? Thats really irritating!
 Quoting: J&V



I did not quote you either, This happened to me on pg 16 and I made comment on page 17. Someone has cut and pasted other quotes into yours and I's previous comments. Not Cool!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9243458


I remember seeing that. That is just beyond bizarre!
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I think you mean Lake Arrowhead, not Elsinore. I somewhat agree with your assessment, though I think it's more likely that he came down the backside and is in the desert. That's where I'm at and I can tell you there are plenty of places to hide out.

Ii don't think he would be at all foolish to stay in Big Bear/Lake Elsinore/etc., area. There are tons of summer homes and condos there that are empty most of the year. People love to visit the area but no one wants the major schlep up and down the hills every time they need to do serious shopping. It's beautiful when it's snowed in but then again, you are snowed in. Let the power or gas go down and you've got people freezing to death fast.

There are at least a couple of dozen vacant condos in one area on the outskirts of Lake Elsinore. They're all built like little town houses with the garage at street level and the two or three stories above it making up the kitchen, family room, living room, baths The bedrooms are usually up on the 2nd and 3rd floors along with more bathrooms. Some of these condos are very large - like 1800 sq feet per floor x four floors counting the garage level. Many have residential elevators and are done to the nines. Most of them that are vacation homes have serious supplies already stocked and locked up in the freezers or a wine cellar and/or root cellar. He could get access to any one of those and be surfing the web, enjoying the house, and if he knows who the owners are (easy enough to do once your inside the place) he could even call the HOA and tell them it was Mr. So and So Owner and their friends were going to be using the house for a couple of weeks- and their use was fully okay, etc.

Doing something like that - he could stay up there for months! And never have to venture out if he didn't choose to. He could also probably find the keys and a car in most of the garages. Many families keep a second or third car up there just to have something to run to the store in or up and own the hills in wo their big Mercedes or BMW's won't be beat up on the snowy roads, etc.


My money says he made it to his hideout on the mountain. He will probably shoot himself. Who knows when his corpse will be found.
 Quoting: Delbert_Boogerbelt


I agree.
 Quoting: Lime Flavoured Redux

Disagree. To the east of Big Bear, down off the mountain is a vast desert area, where 29 Palms and the Marine base are....lots of uninhabited area, lots of abandoned shacks. Through there is the back way to Las Vegas where his house is located. My guess is he knows that territory well. He would be a fool to stay any where near Big Bear.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29948208

 Quoting: MarkinAZ
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Not sure if this has been posted:

"It was revealed that Dorner has become the first human target for remotely-controlled airborne drones on US soil."

[link to www.express.co.uk]
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Yesterday, as a task force of 125 officers, some riding Snowcats in the rugged terrain, continued their search, it was revealed that Dorner has become the first human target for remotely-controlled airborne drones on US soil.

A senior police source said: “The thermal imaging cameras the drones use may be our only hope of finding him. On the ground, it’s like looking for a needle in a haystack.”

Asked directly if drones have already been deployed, Riverside Police Chief Sergio Diaz, who is jointly leading the task force, said: “We are using all the tools at our disposal.”

The use of drones was later confirmed by Customs and Border Patrol spokesman Ralph DeSio, who revealed agents have been prepared for Dorner to make a dash for the Mexican border since his rampage began.

He said: “This agency has been at the forefront of domestic use of drones by law enforcement. That’s all I can say at the moment.”

Holy Shit - The Agenda revealed ....
This is about using Drones on American Soil!!!!!!!!!
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Things you need to consider now:

1. Dorner is likely dead. He may be good, but he's not THAT good. Consider him the new Osama bin Laden. The joker to LAPD's Batman. He may have even been killed before this whole "manhunt" begin, bin-Laden style. Has anyone seen him since this manhunt" began? No. Were there any witnesses to the supposed "shootings" he perpetrated? No. All the information that we are been given is coming from the police and the media. Jesus, he probably didn't even write the damn manifesto (any of the 3 "versions" that have surfaced). They were posted to a Facebook account that was created a few days before he was declared a suspect, and then the account was shut down. But because the LAPD - an organization so corrupt that it could probably give the DHS training tips - releases a "manifesto" penned by Dorner, we are supposed to believe it? A manifesto in which a guy who is armed to the teeth with a mobile arsenal insists that Americans should NOT have the right to bear arms? The same guy who has lost all faith in the system and thinks the cops are corrupt thugs? The thugs should be able to keep their weapons but the innocents who are bullied by them should surrender their's? Right. Use your head. That's the first thing that didn't make sense to me.

2. Already 3 innocent people have been fired upon, their vehicles riddled with bullets, in the search for ONE man. The second instance that occurred yesterday involved a truck (white) that LAPD thought "looked" like Dorner's truck:

[link to www.latimes.com]

And wasn't Dorner's truck already "found" in Big Bear, burned to a crisp? So why are the police still looking for a truck "matching" the description of his? Why does the this rampage of LAPD terror and intimidation continue against Southern California drivers even though the police really have no idea what kind of vehicle Dorner is riving now? Makes no sense.

3. But I will tell you what does make sense: the use of drones. And it has now been authorized to hunt and kill this man whom they have no intention of ever bringing to trial:

"Yesterday, as a task force of 125 officers, some riding Snowcats in the rugged terrain, continued their search, it was revealed that Dorner has become the first human target for remotely-controlled airborne drones on US soil.

A senior police source said: “The thermal imaging cameras the drones use may be our only hope of finding him. On the ground, it’s like looking for a needle in a haystack.”

[link to www.express.co.uk]

A "needle in a haystack". That's what we all are, people. Troublesome needles that they will need thermal imaging and drones to locate and dispose of.

Dorner is a test case for conditioning the populace: to random searches of vehicles at gunpoint, to becoming collateral damage as innocents are mowed down in the search for "troublemakers", to the use of drones to pinpoint the "needles in the haystacks".

Connect the dots. Try and keep up. This game is now being played way too fast for you to simply rely mostly on information that you are being given by the media. Read the comments in articles about this story. Two common themes emerge: (1) No one trusts the LAPD anymore and (2) everyone is advising black men and people with blue trucks to stay inside their homes.

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Killing innocent people cannot be justified. Period.
How is that justice???
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No, it is certainly not justified but the reasons/causes behind such things should be examined and dealt with to prevent future problems.

A 'reason or cause' is not necessarily an 'excuse or justification'.
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Here's the video of Dorner throwing things into a dumpster - they released it last night.


 Quoting: BunnyGirl


Leaving the stuff in San Diego was to throw them off thinking he was going south to Mexico.

Just like burning the truck in Big Bear made them think he is wondering around in the mountains.

Just like it was ploy last time it is this time.... and they bought it hook, line and sinker.
 Quoting: MuskMan


Could be, we don't get all the info, it sure does sound like they have no idea were he is.

The police said they were going to reopen Dorner's case when he was fired. Want to bet they will justify it?

LA Police r having a 1pm news conference.

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Here's an interesting tidbit no one has mentioned. All of LAPD is on duty, many other resources as well are involved, helicopters, SWAT units, San Bernardino police, Torrance police, and on and on and on. How much is this costing? Who is going to pay the bill?
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Why did they shoot that surfer up in a truck that matched Dorners when Dorners was found burnt 2 days ago???
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Things you need to consider now:

1. Dorner is likely dead. He may be good, but he's not THAT good. Consider him the new Osama bin Laden. The joker to LAPD's Batman. He may have even been killed before this whole "manhunt" begin, bin-Laden style. Has anyone seen him since this manhunt" began? No. Were there any witnesses to the supposed "shootings" he perpetrated? No. All the information that we are been given is coming from the police and the media. Jesus, he probably didn't even write the damn manifesto (any of the 3 "versions" that have surfaced). They were posted to a Facebook account that was created a few days before he was declared a suspect, and then the account was shut down. But because the LAPD - an organization so corrupt that it could probably give the DHS training tips - releases a "manifesto" penned by Dorner, we are supposed to believe it? A manifesto in which a guy who is armed to the teeth with a mobile arsenal insists that Americans should NOT have the right to bear arms? The same guy who has lost all faith in the system and thinks the cops are corrupt thugs? The thugs should be able to keep their weapons but the innocents who are bullied by them should surrender their's? Right. Use your head. That's the first thing that didn't make sense to me.

2. Already 3 innocent people have been fired upon, their vehicles riddled with bullets, in the search for ONE man. The second instance that occurred yesterday involved a truck (white) that LAPD thought "looked" like Dorner's truck:

[link to www.latimes.com]

And wasn't Dorner's truck already "found" in Big Bear, burned to a crisp? So why are the police still looking for a truck "matching" the description of his? Why does the this rampage of LAPD terror and intimidation continue against Southern California drivers even though the police really have no idea what kind of vehicle Dorner is riving now? Makes no sense.

3. But I will tell you what does make sense: the use of drones. And it has now been authorized to hunt and kill this man whom they have no intention of ever bringing to trial:

"Yesterday, as a task force of 125 officers, some riding Snowcats in the rugged terrain, continued their search, it was revealed that Dorner has become the first human target for remotely-controlled airborne drones on US soil.

A senior police source said: “The thermal imaging cameras the drones use may be our only hope of finding him. On the ground, it’s like looking for a needle in a haystack.”

[link to www.express.co.uk]

A "needle in a haystack". That's what we all are, people. Troublesome needles that they will need thermal imaging and drones to locate and dispose of.

Dorner is a test case for conditioning the populace: to random searches of vehicles at gunpoint, to becoming collateral damage as innocents are mowed down in the search for "troublemakers", to the use of drones to pinpoint the "needles in the haystacks".

Connect the dots. Try and keep up. This game is now being played way too fast for you to simply rely mostly on information that you are being given by the media. Read the comments in articles about this story. Two common themes emerge: (1) No one trusts the LAPD anymore and (2) everyone is advising black men and people with blue trucks to stay inside their homes.

Conditioning, conditioning, conditioning.
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snip
A department spokesman said Saturday that the shooting is still under investigation. In a statement to The Times, the department said: "The circumstances of the incident known to the responding officers would have led a reasonable officer under normal circumstances — and these were far from normal circumstances — to believe that fellow officers were being shot at and that the vehicle traveling toward them posed a serious risk.

"In the split seconds available to them," the statement continued, "action was appropriate to intervene and stop the actions of the driver of that vehicle." end snip

The officers don't know when they are being shot at and when they aren't? Their action was APPROPRIATE? omg!!

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