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Obviously JR and Holden are the only patriots on this thread. The time is now for us conservatives to strike back against the lies of these democrat muslims who see this criminal as a hero. You communist have no clue who you are fighting. If you support this democrat gang member than you are the enemy of patriots. You leftists are exposed.
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Obviously JR and Holden are the only patriots on this thread. The time is now for us conservatives to strike back against the lies of these democrat muslims who see this criminal as a hero. You communist have no clue who you are fighting. If you support this democrat gang member than you are the enemy of patriots. You leftists are exposed.
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hey schizo, jr is holden is patriot veteran
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This is what I'd expect from an affirmative action promoted type like Droner. He's the "word if the day" type boss that try's to expand his vocabulary without actually reading books or even understanding 50 cent words..Very common with incognizant incincompets. (People that aren't smart enough to realize they are incompetent,, this is very common with blacks whose median IQ of 80 creates the need to promote incompetents)

B HO, and the wookie are also prime examples of this phenomena...

I wonder how long we'll have to tolerate black incompetence and inferiority?
 Quoting: goodmockingbird


I guess we have to wait until they find him - 3 days going
That makes him more competent then the LAPD, San Bernadino PD,
DHS, FBI, etc ...

nice of you to racially stereotype though - as if the color of ones skin has anything to do with ones abilities or aptitude.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28689320


I hope you don't have to find out the hard way that blacks are stupid and dangerous. There's an awakening going on in the black community and it ain't the pleasant, happy enlightening kind... Blacks are collectively realizing what whites have known and tolerated all along, the fact is, they simply cannot compete in modern society. No matter how much we bend the rules for them it ain't gonna matter. The goverment can only hire so many of them and mask the problem.

Black peeps KNOW what I'm talking about- even Droner admits this in his manifesto.
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Does anyone know what evidence there was that lead the police to suspect him in the first two homicides? Discounting "the manifesto", as that was found after he was already considered a suspect. Witnesses?

I just read that the LAPD came across the manifesto after links were sent via Twitter. Does anyone have a link to the "tweets" that linked to the manifesto? Or screen shot of the tweets?

The Facebook page where the manifesto was found was created shortly before all of this took place? I don't suppose anyone was able to get screen shots before it was removed?

Maybe I am confused, I have just started really reading about this....seems sketchy to me.

hf
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30842846


I think youre incorrect that the manifesto was evidence found after he became him a suspect. Rather, that is what made him a suspect in the first place. The only evidence that I know of is the manifesto.

That made him a suspect. When they found him on the highway and followed him to try and stop him, he opened fire on the officers.Thats all Ive heard so far.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33968321


That would be an incredible coincidence considering the two officers in the shootout were named personally in the manifesto.
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Not sure if this has been posted:

"It was revealed that Dorner has become the first human target for remotely-controlled airborne drones on US soil."

[link to www.express.co.uk]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31502749


Why is this news outlet saying that Dorner shot those two people when no one knows for sure who shot them. Everyone is guilty until proven innocent now? Maybe the cops shot them not Dorner.
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Not sure if this has been posted:

"It was revealed that Dorner has become the first human target for remotely-controlled airborne drones on US soil."

[link to www.express.co.uk]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31502749


Why is this news outlet saying that Dorner shot those two people when no one knows for sure who shot them. Everyone is guilty until proven innocent now? Maybe the cops shot them not Dorner.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23657849


The daughter's father was mentioned in the manifesto
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a $ 1 million reward has been offered

I dont think anyone will be helping this cat now

[link to www.latimes.com]
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How many TRUCKS has RamBro been in? Is this like that movie Legend of Billie Jean where the people take her from place to place and hide her out until she gets safely to the media?

Did this guy kill those people and where/what is the evidence? I don't support him but he has a story that needs telling and if I were LAPD I would let him tell it....especially if the public has created an underground railroad for him....

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29015621


Its unlikely anyone has created an underground railroad for him.

He's a loner psycho who thinks he is going to 'clear his name' by murdering innocent men, women, and children. Those kind of people usually dont seek or recieve help from others.
 Quoting: JR 33968321


Sure, you just go ahead and keep convincing yourself of that.

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Not sure if this has been posted:

"It was revealed that Dorner has become the first human target for remotely-controlled airborne drones on US soil."

[link to www.express.co.uk]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31502749


Why is this news outlet saying that Dorner shot those two people when no one knows for sure who shot them. Everyone is guilty until proven innocent now? Maybe the cops shot them not Dorner.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23657849


The daughter's father was mentioned in the manifesto
 Quoting: ampedin


Do you have links to her or the fiance's obits?
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Whats this about a white truck? I haven't heard of that one.....
 Quoting: BunnyGirl


Black truck... white guy. It's the other person who was fired upon the same day the 2 Hispanic women were shot up.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14276661


Thanks for clarifying - no way can I imagine a 3rd situation like this.......
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Stalone filmed that movie in my backyard. I lived in Silver Creek just outside of Hope. He was a great guy and into nature stuff. My friend still has the desk that he plowed his knife into from the cop station scene. Cheers
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i love fishing there i am in chillliwack
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Does anyone know what evidence there was that lead the police to suspect him in the first two homicides? Discounting "the manifesto", as that was found after he was already considered a suspect. Witnesses?

I just read that the LAPD came across the manifesto after links were sent via Twitter. Does anyone have a link to the "tweets" that linked to the manifesto? Or screen shot of the tweets?

The Facebook page where the manifesto was found was created shortly before all of this took place? I don't suppose anyone was able to get screen shots before it was removed?

Maybe I am confused, I have just started really reading about this....seems sketchy to me.

hf
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30842846


I think youre incorrect that the manifesto was evidence found after he became him a suspect. Rather, that is what made him a suspect in the first place. The only evidence that I know of is the manifesto.

That made him a suspect. When they found him on the highway and followed him to try and stop him, he opened fire on the officers.Thats all Ive heard so far.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33968321


That would be an incredible coincidence considering the two officers in the shootout were named personally in the manifesto.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27771439


Correction - None of the shootouts with cops were people listed in the manifesto.
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[link to twitter.com (secure)]

"$1M is largest local reward ever offered to our knowledge - LAPD Chief Beck"

Where does reward money come from? If multiple people helped do they split the reward money? How does that work anyway?
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Not sure if this has been posted:

"It was revealed that Dorner has become the first human target for remotely-controlled airborne drones on US soil."

[link to www.express.co.uk]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31502749


Why is this news outlet saying that Dorner shot those two people when no one knows for sure who shot them. Everyone is guilty until proven innocent now? Maybe the cops shot them not Dorner.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23657849


The daughter's father was mentioned in the manifesto
 Quoting: ampedin


My point is no one knows if Dorner shot them, or the cops shot them. And nobody knows for sure if Dorner wrote the manifesto either, since there seems to be several versions of it anyway. Something reeks about the whole thing.
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[link to twitter.com (secure)]

"$1M is largest local reward ever offered to our knowledge - LAPD Chief Beck"

Where does reward money come from? If multiple people helped do they split the reward money? How does that work anyway?
 Quoting: BunnyGirl


""We ask the public- please, help us to protect you. Help us to find #Dorner before he is able to kill again - LAPD Chief Beck"
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His case a fair hearing/justice ended the moment he pulled the trigger and ended two innocent lives, period.
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Does anyone know what evidence there was that lead the police to suspect him in the first two homicides? Discounting "the manifesto", as that was found after he was already considered a suspect. Witnesses?

I just read that the LAPD came across the manifesto after links were sent via Twitter. Does anyone have a link to the "tweets" that linked to the manifesto? Or screen shot of the tweets?

The Facebook page where the manifesto was found was created shortly before all of this took place? I don't suppose anyone was able to get screen shots before it was removed?

Maybe I am confused, I have just started really reading about this....seems sketchy to me.

hf
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30842846


I think youre incorrect that the manifesto was evidence found after he became him a suspect. Rather, that is what made him a suspect in the first place. The only evidence that I know of is the manifesto.

That made him a suspect. When they found him on the highway and followed him to try and stop him, he opened fire on the officers.Thats all Ive heard so far.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33968321


That would be an incredible coincidence considering the two officers in the shootout were named personally in the manifesto.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27771439


Correction - None of the shootouts with cops were people listed in the manifesto.
 Quoting: BunnyGirl


Thats right. Both officer shootings (two oficers at each, about 5 miles apart) were with officers Dorner was trying to get away from.


Heres some more info:

the first shootout between Dorner and police, in Corona,
with the police car involved pictured here
[link to blogs.mydesert.com]

happened here:
[link to maps.google.com]


a closer image of that car-
[link to media.redding.com]

and from the front:
[link to www.trbimg.com]


Dorner was being followed, got off the interstate, stopped his truck and fired into the front of this police car, allowing himself to get away.

Then continuing a few miles on further down this road is where he got ino the second shootout with Riverside police, killing one of them at this intersection:
[link to maps.google.com]


So far the only targeted killing it is believed that he committed is that of Quan and Lawrence, the daughter of an LAPD officer and her fiance on top of a parking deck in Irvine, Ca. So he hasnt killed any actual LAPD yet.


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Dorner's truck is parked in front of his Las Vegas house in this google streetview shot:

[link to maps.google.com]


and, his truck now:
[link to pbs.twimg.com]


Here is a listing for his LV house that I found:
[link to www.trulia.com]


Surveillance video shows man believed to be Dorner throwing items into trash bin in National City
Video, which was recorded Monday, obtained by CNN



[link to www.10news.com]


a good timeline thats being updated:
[link to projects.scpr.org]
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[link to twitter.com (secure)]

"$1M is largest local reward ever offered to our knowledge - LAPD Chief Beck"

Where does reward money come from? If multiple people helped do they split the reward money? How does that work anyway?
 Quoting: BunnyGirl


Aw here's part of the answer

"LAPD Chief Beck says it was "amazingly, amazingly easy" to gather the $1M reward from very willing community members"

I don't think I'd be so quick to put up any money like that unless I had heard evidence linking him to the crime other than a multiple version manifesto posted on a suspicious facebook page. Folks are buying into the fear rather than thinking rationally and asking questions.
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His case a fair hearing/justice ended the moment he pulled the trigger and ended two innocent lives, period.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25635188


Well you have no proof of that, do you?
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[link to twitter.com (secure)]

"$1M is largest local reward ever offered to our knowledge - LAPD Chief Beck"

Where does reward money come from? If multiple people helped do they split the reward money? How does that work anyway?
 Quoting: BunnyGirl


These rewards are never paid out.
The only reason they are offered in the first place
is because there is no danger of anyone ever actually
collecting.
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I think youre incorrect that the manifesto was evidence found after he became him a suspect. Rather, that is what made him a suspect in the first place. The only evidence that I know of is the manifesto.

That made him a suspect. When they found him on the highway and followed him to try and stop him, he opened fire on the officers.Thats all Ive heard so far.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33968321


That would be an incredible coincidence considering the two officers in the shootout were named personally in the manifesto.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27771439


Correction - None of the shootouts with cops were people listed in the manifesto.
 Quoting: BunnyGirl


Thats right. Both officer shootings (two oficers at each, about 5 miles apart) were with officers Dorner was trying to get away from.


Heres some more info:

the first shootout between Dorner and police, in Corona,
with the police car involved pictured here
[link to blogs.mydesert.com]

happened here:
[link to maps.google.com]


a closer image of that car-
[link to media.redding.com]

and from the front:
[link to www.trbimg.com]


Dorner was being followed, got off the interstate, stopped his truck and fired into the front of this police car, allowing himself to get away.

Then continuing a few miles on further down this road is where he got ino the second shootout with Riverside police, killing one of them at this intersection:
[link to maps.google.com]


So far the only targeted killing it is believed that he committed is that of Quan and Lawrence, the daughter of an LAPD officer and her fiance on top of a parking deck in Irvine, Ca. So he hasnt killed any actual LAPD yet.


-----------------------------------------------------------

Dorner's truck is parked in front of his Las Vegas house in this google streetview shot:

[link to maps.google.com]


and, his truck now:
[link to pbs.twimg.com]


Here is a listing for his LV house that I found:
[link to www.trulia.com]


Surveillance video shows man believed to be Dorner throwing items into trash bin in National City
Video, which was recorded Monday, obtained by CNN



[link to www.10news.com]


a good timeline thats being updated:
[link to projects.scpr.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33968321


I find it interesting that they have no squad car videotapes of Dorner shooting at them.
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To catch this criminal they should have a fake funeral for the victims, like a trap for Dorner.
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They are not going to catch him.

They are going to announce him dead.
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Yes folks thats the only thing they claim to have to go on here. And btw that facebook account was created only 2 weeks ago, with ZERO friends, and no comments. He posted over a total of SIX days. Who did he expect to see the manifesto? Nobody was reading his facebook account.

Is there a possibility that the Irvine murders might be a separate incident than the cop shootings? Is there a possibility that this guy did not start the facebook page? Until we have the answers to those two questions (such as what weapons used in both murders, maybe some surveillance video, perhaps chasing down an IP address of facebook editor, etc) I'm not buying this story.
 Quoting: BunnyGirl



I got the feeling this guy was smart enough to create a presence for the media to grab hold of before starting his war.

What horrible pics would they have found elsewhere to splatter all over the news? He wanted to give the public a personality they could identify with and warm up to.

...I mean come on! Look at that smile! The guy has heart and looks like an honorable badass in service of his country.

Now take someone like that and fuck them in the ass like the LAPD did and you get what you have now. They ruined his life cause some stupid pig bitch had to kick a mentally retarded kid in the face after he was already restrained and this guy's conscious could not simply ignore that so he did something about it and they ruined him for it. Not just his job but his military career which was something he was very proud of.

These pigs are going to get what they deserve and they are the one's who caused this. NOT Dorner! they put him on this path that he now feel obligated to carry out. They took everything from him for nothing and what does a man do once he has nothing left to lose?


When there is no justice left what is one to do? ...well this guy is using his skills and training to do what he can.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8443185

Wrong. HE is responsible for what he did. Many people are pushed to the brink, for many different reasons. When no justice is left what is one to do?! Really?? One is to deal with it. Not go on a sociopathic rage filled murdering spree.
 Quoting: Little Willow


How many TRUCKS has RamBro been in? Is this like that movie Legend of Billie Jean where the people take her from place to place and hide her out until she gets safely to the media?

Did this guy kill those people and where/what is the evidence? I don't support him but he has a story that needs telling and if I were LAPD I would let him tell it....especially if the public has created an underground railroad for him....

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29015621


Its unlikely anyone has created an underground railroad for him.

He's a loner psycho who thinks he is going to 'clear his name' by murdering innocent men, women, and children. Those kind of people usually dont seek or recieve help from others.
 Quoting: JR 33968321


...



most dangerous or most elusive?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1247669


Im going with elusive. That father/son team that was shooting people out of their car killed more people in a shorter amount of time.

Edited to say: Thats wrong, it took a few weeks to capture them. Time will tell i guess
 Quoting: BossBitch


If you are referring to the "DC sniper" case.. which by the way.. he was not a sniper.

that was NOT a father and son.

it was a black muslim convert and a 17 year old follower.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33337354


whenever you "lay-in wait" and shoot somebody, that's a "sniper", dumbass.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33351085


Dorner's command of English, as it is used in security-related documents, is deficient in understanding.

He just wrote stuff that sounded all tactical.

One line from his manifesto:

"I will mitigate all risks, threats and hazards. "

To mitigate a threat is to minimize it, to make it lesser, or more manageable. Example: If you have mice get inside your house, you can mitigate the threat of them spreading by putting out traps and closing off holes.
 Quoting: goodmockingbird


This is what I'd expect from an affirmative action promoted type like Droner. He's the "word if the day" type boss that try's to expand his vocabulary without actually reading books or even understanding 50 cent words..Very common with incognizant incincompets. (People that aren't smart enough to realize they are incompetent,, this is very common with blacks whose median IQ of 80 creates the need to promote incompetents)

B HO, and the wookie are also prime examples of this phenomena...

I wonder how long we'll have to tolerate black incompetence and inferiority?
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Listen here Fucktard, Incompetence knows no color and you are a shinning example of this fact. BHO is not a black man btw he is mixed dude surrounded by white and Jewish advisers. Fact
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His case a fair hearing/justice ended the moment he pulled the trigger and ended two innocent lives, period.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25635188


So that's what we've degenerated to eh?

I for one expect more from our country. Little things like the right to a fair trial and having one's basic civil rights respected and honored...it's the only thing that separates us and sets us apart from oppressive regimes that we criticize and condemn and like North Korea.

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That would be an incredible coincidence considering the two officers in the shootout were named personally in the manifesto.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27771439


Correction - None of the shootouts with cops were people listed in the manifesto.
 Quoting: BunnyGirl


Thats right. Both officer shootings (two oficers at each, about 5 miles apart) were with officers Dorner was trying to get away from.


Heres some more info:

the first shootout between Dorner and police, in Corona,
with the police car involved pictured here
[link to blogs.mydesert.com]

happened here:
[link to maps.google.com]


a closer image of that car-
[link to media.redding.com]

and from the front:
[link to www.trbimg.com]


Dorner was being followed, got off the interstate, stopped his truck and fired into the front of this police car, allowing himself to get away.

Then continuing a few miles on further down this road is where he got ino the second shootout with Riverside police, killing one of them at this intersection:
[link to maps.google.com]


So far the only targeted killing it is believed that he committed is that of Quan and Lawrence, the daughter of an LAPD officer and her fiance on top of a parking deck in Irvine, Ca. So he hasnt killed any actual LAPD yet.


-----------------------------------------------------------

Dorner's truck is parked in front of his Las Vegas house in this google streetview shot:

[link to maps.google.com]


and, his truck now:
[link to pbs.twimg.com]


Here is a listing for his LV house that I found:
[link to www.trulia.com]


Surveillance video shows man believed to be Dorner throwing items into trash bin in National City
Video, which was recorded Monday, obtained by CNN



[link to www.10news.com]


a good timeline thats being updated:
[link to projects.scpr.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33968321


I find it interesting that they have no squad car videotapes of Dorner shooting at them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23657849


I havent heard if there is or not.

also, more info:

from looking at the shell casings location in this pic:
[link to www.trbimg.com]

it can be deduced that Dorner (or whoever) was standing here, center of pic:
[link to maps.google.com]
when he fired at that police car. he was just on the other side of the 'L' in 'signal' on the roadway, and just near or inside the curved white line. He was probably firing using the front of his truck as cover/conceilment.

details like this are interesting to me. Maybe also to some of you as well.
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I hope he makes it to court! Imagine what a freakin hero he'd be in jail! He'll be like the king of the jail!!
Imagine that street cred! He'll get Ll the recognition his crazy bar ics sits mint craves (in jail)
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I hope he makes it to court! Imagine what a freakin hero he'd be in jail! He'll be like the king of the jail!!
Imagine that street cred! He'll get Ll the recognition his crazy bar ics sits mint craves (in jail)
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Dorner's command of English, as it is used in security-related documents, is deficient in understanding.

He just wrote stuff that sounded all tactical.

One line from his manifesto:

"I will mitigate all risks, threats and hazards. "

To mitigate a threat is to minimize it, to make it lesser, or more manageable. Example: If you have mice get inside your house, you can mitigate the threat of them spreading by putting out traps and closing off holes.
 Quoting: goodmockingbird


This is what I'd expect from an affirmative action promoted type like Droner. He's the "word if the day" type boss that try's to expand his vocabulary without actually reading books or even understanding 50 cent words..Very common with incognizant incincompets. (People that aren't smart enough to realize they are incompetent,, this is very common with blacks whose median IQ of 80 creates the need to promote incompetents)

B HO, and the wookie are also prime examples of this phenomena...

I wonder how long we'll have to tolerate black incompetence and inferiority?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32619552


Until they run this country into the ground enough that "DECENT" people realize that's exactly what has happened and send INCOMPETENT people back to the back row.
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only 25 people now actively searching for Dorner on Big Bear

Im kind of surprised by this scale down of the manpower.

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