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Anonymous Coward
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only 25 people now actively searching for Dorner on Big Bear

Im kind of surprised by this scale down of the manpower.
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I think they've decided he's probably not there any longer.
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Probably making his way back toward LA - where most of his "targets" live.
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Correction - None of the shootouts with cops were people listed in the manifesto.
 Quoting: BunnyGirl


Thats right. Both officer shootings (two oficers at each, about 5 miles apart) were with officers Dorner was trying to get away from.


Heres some more info:

the first shootout between Dorner and police, in Corona,
with the police car involved pictured here
[link to blogs.mydesert.com]

happened here:
[link to maps.google.com]


a closer image of that car-
[link to media.redding.com]

and from the front:
[link to www.trbimg.com]


Dorner was being followed, got off the interstate, stopped his truck and fired into the front of this police car, allowing himself to get away.

Then continuing a few miles on further down this road is where he got ino the second shootout with Riverside police, killing one of them at this intersection:
[link to maps.google.com]


So far the only targeted killing it is believed that he committed is that of Quan and Lawrence, the daughter of an LAPD officer and her fiance on top of a parking deck in Irvine, Ca. So he hasnt killed any actual LAPD yet.


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Dorner's truck is parked in front of his Las Vegas house in this google streetview shot:

[link to maps.google.com]


and, his truck now:
[link to pbs.twimg.com]


Here is a listing for his LV house that I found:
[link to www.trulia.com]


Surveillance video shows man believed to be Dorner throwing items into trash bin in National City
Video, which was recorded Monday, obtained by CNN



[link to www.10news.com]


a good timeline thats being updated:
[link to projects.scpr.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33968321


I find it interesting that they have no squad car videotapes of Dorner shooting at them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23657849


I havent heard if there is or not.

also, more info:

from looking at the shell casings location in this pic:
[link to www.trbimg.com]

it can be deduced that Dorner (or whoever) was standing here, center of pic:
[link to maps.google.com]
when he fired at that police car. he was just on the other side of the 'L' in 'signal' on the roadway, and just near or inside the curved white line. He was probably firing using the front of his truck as cover/conceilment.

details like this are interesting to me. Maybe also to some of you as well.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33968321


The only detail that is interesting to me concerning what you just said is the fact that they have no squad car videotape of Dorner shooting at them. If they did have one they would release it to the newsmedia. How easy it would have been to tape him shooting them from their squad cars, but apparently no video exists. I find that suspicious in and of itself.
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02/10/2013 04:53 PM
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His case a fair hearing/justice ended the moment he pulled the trigger and ended two innocent lives, period.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25635188


So you know beyond reasonable doubt that he killed these two people.?
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02/10/2013 04:56 PM
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only 25 people now actively searching for Dorner on Big Bear

Im kind of surprised by this scale down of the manpower.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33968321


Big Bear not a big mountain -
After day 3 - he's either moved through the area early on or was never there

He's laying low if he isn't already dead or never existed.
It's gonna give them time to tighten the noose.

although 1 million bounty, they going to be inundated with sightings. LAPD chief cannot apprehend suspect, he needs your help. That speaks volumes as to how safe we are depending on the system.

And they want us to give up our weapons ..... hmmmm

Best pro gun propaganda since Obama announced gun control.
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02/10/2013 04:57 PM

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Not sure if this has been posted:

"It was revealed that Dorner has become the first human target for remotely-controlled airborne drones on US soil."

[link to www.express.co.uk]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31502749


Why is this news outlet saying that Dorner shot those two people when no one knows for sure who shot them. Everyone is guilty until proven innocent now? Maybe the cops shot them not Dorner.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23657849


Because this is a SET UP! PSY OP! Dorner = DRONE anagram. "Dorner has become the first human target for remotely-controlled airborne drones on US soil." This happens in the biggest attempted gun grab in Cali history & the grilling of leacherous Brennan about his and beloved DRONE program & this administration's carte blanche targeting of American citizens! TOO MUCH! I just don't buy what they are selling, no effin' way!
Perpetually dumbfounded.

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02/10/2013 05:00 PM
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I'm glad he standing up to the racist LAPD and their bs trying to make this black man out to be a boogey man like they do everything else with their lame stream media. This man didn't deserve to be fired, because he told the truth about a crooked pig.
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02/10/2013 05:03 PM
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Correction - None of the shootouts with cops were people listed in the manifesto.
 Quoting: BunnyGirl


Thats right. Both officer shootings (two oficers at each, about 5 miles apart) were with officers Dorner was trying to get away from.


Heres some more info:

the first shootout between Dorner and police, in Corona,
with the police car involved pictured here
[link to blogs.mydesert.com]

happened here:
[link to maps.google.com]


a closer image of that car-
[link to media.redding.com]

and from the front:
[link to www.trbimg.com]


Dorner was being followed, got off the interstate, stopped his truck and fired into the front of this police car, allowing himself to get away.

Then continuing a few miles on further down this road is where he got ino the second shootout with Riverside police, killing one of them at this intersection:
[link to maps.google.com]


So far the only targeted killing it is believed that he committed is that of Quan and Lawrence, the daughter of an LAPD officer and her fiance on top of a parking deck in Irvine, Ca. So he hasnt killed any actual LAPD yet.


-----------------------------------------------------------

Dorner's truck is parked in front of his Las Vegas house in this google streetview shot:

[link to maps.google.com]


and, his truck now:
[link to pbs.twimg.com]


Here is a listing for his LV house that I found:
[link to www.trulia.com]


Surveillance video shows man believed to be Dorner throwing items into trash bin in National City
Video, which was recorded Monday, obtained by CNN



[link to www.10news.com]


a good timeline thats being updated:
[link to projects.scpr.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33968321


I find it interesting that they have no squad car videotapes of Dorner shooting at them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23657849


I havent heard if there is or not.

also, more info:

from looking at the shell casings location in this pic:
[link to www.trbimg.com]

it can be deduced that Dorner (or whoever) was standing here, center of pic:
[link to maps.google.com]
when he fired at that police car. he was just on the other side of the 'L' in 'signal' on the roadway, and just near or inside the curved white line. He was probably firing using the front of his truck as cover/conceilment.

details like this are interesting to me. Maybe also to some of you as well.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33968321



WHOAA!!!!!!

DING DING DING

look at the security camera:
[link to maps.google.com]

I just noticed that
so that would have caught the shootout most likely
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02/10/2013 05:06 PM
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WHOAA!!!!!!

DING DING DING

look at the security camera:
[link to maps.google.com]

I just noticed that
so that would have caught the shootout most likely
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33968321


AND ! >

theres also one here:
[link to maps.google.com]

looking back towards where Dorner was shooting from
Anonymous Coward
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02/10/2013 05:08 PM
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only 25 people now actively searching for Dorner on Big Bear

Im kind of surprised by this scale down of the manpower.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33968321


Big Bear not a big mountain -
After day 3 - he's either moved through the area early on or was never there

He's laying low if he isn't already dead or never existed.
It's gonna give them time to tighten the noose.

although 1 million bounty, they going to be inundated with sightings. LAPD chief cannot apprehend suspect, he needs your help. That speaks volumes as to how safe we are depending on the system.

And they want us to give up our weapons ..... hmmmm

Best pro gun propaganda since Obama announced gun control.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28689320


and still no one says anything about what all this costs or who is going to pay for it.
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02/10/2013 05:10 PM
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WHOAA!!!!!!

DING DING DING

look at the security camera:
[link to maps.google.com]

I just noticed that
so that would have caught the shootout most likely
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33968321


AND ! >

theres also one here:
[link to maps.google.com]

looking back towards where Dorner was shooting from
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33968321


WELL FUCK ME!
AND ONE HERE:

[link to maps.google.com]

so this shootout should have been well caught on cam

and if you look up and down the street, theres cameras both ways
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Not sure if this has been posted:

"It was revealed that Dorner has become the first human target for remotely-controlled airborne drones on US soil."

[link to www.express.co.uk]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31502749


Why is this news outlet saying that Dorner shot those two people when no one knows for sure who shot them. Everyone is guilty until proven innocent now? Maybe the cops shot them not Dorner.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23657849


Because this is a SET UP! PSY OP! Dorner = DRONE anagram. "Dorner has become the first human target for remotely-controlled airborne drones on US soil." This happens in the biggest attempted gun grab in Cali history & the grilling of leacherous Brennan about his and beloved DRONE program & this administration's carte blanche targeting of American citizens! TOO MUCH! I just don't buy what they are selling, no effin' way!
 Quoting: Requiemdream (Ghost)


WOW... That would be too much of a coincidence if the first American deemed a terrorist (per White House Order this past Tuesday) was killed on American soil with a drone, had a name which was an anagram of "drone". Too much for the mind to take in. Thank you RequiemDream (Ghost) for pointing out the anagram of his name. Mind blowing coincidence if it happens.

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02/10/2013 05:11 PM
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WHOAA!!!!!!

DING DING DING

look at the security camera:
[link to maps.google.com]

I just noticed that
so that would have caught the shootout most likely
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33968321


AND ! >

theres also one here:
[link to maps.google.com]

looking back towards where Dorner was shooting from
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33968321


WELL FUCK ME!
AND ONE HERE:

[link to maps.google.com]

so this shootout should have been well caught on cam

and if you look up and down the street, theres cameras both ways
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33968321


/\ This last one should have clearly caught both Dorner and the police car in the shootout.
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02/10/2013 05:12 PM
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supposedly drones were also used for the Alabama bunker kidnapper
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the grammys?
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02/10/2013 05:13 PM
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In this day & age of cameras at every corner it is amazing that they haven't released more surveillance footage of him and the truck when he was driving all over the place Sunday through Thursday. From what I can tell there's only been two.

From the time they found the young couple in Irving it would seem they would have someone live-viewing the cameras on the hwys/freeways.

Maybe they have footage of him in all the places he was supposedly in & aren't releasing it right now. And if they don't have much footage of him moving around then there's a big problem with this story.
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02/10/2013 05:13 PM
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So this intersection where the first shootout happened has cameras aimed at it from 3 sides.
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02/10/2013 05:14 PM
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WHOAA!!!!!!

DING DING DING

look at the security camera:
[link to maps.google.com]

I just noticed that
so that would have caught the shootout most likely
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33968321


AND ! >

theres also one here:
[link to maps.google.com]

looking back towards where Dorner was shooting from
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33968321


Well hey, that's interesting, so where's the footage?
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They are not going to catch him.

They are going to announce him dead.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28689320


He's probably been dead for days and they've got him chilling on ice until the public grows bored with the titillating manhunt stories on the "news". Then they will claim he was found frozen in the woods somewhere.
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wow for some reason i honestly think there's nothing we can do about it
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ah c'mon they gave you footage of him throwing trash in a dumpster what more do you want (sarcasm)
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02/10/2013 05:19 PM
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ah c'mon they gave you footage of him throwing trash in a dumpster what more do you want (sarcasm)
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chuckle
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Wrong. HE is responsible for what he did. Many people are pushed to the brink, for many different reasons. When no justice is left what is one to do?! Really?? One is to deal with it. Not go on a sociopathic rage filled murdering spree.
 Quoting: Little Willow

When is enough enough? When is there a breaking point?

Cops get to go around shooting and beating whoever and whatever they want for little to no reason at all with little to no repercussions.

They took a good man and made him a monster.

Keep in mind he is a soldier he was trained to kill. He was sanctioned to murder for the government and has likely already done so in patriotic service and is familiar with death. That being the case death no longer has the same weight it does for you or I.

You act like these cops are good people. They are not and are responsible for the death and suffering of many unjustly.

He discovered a big serious corruption problems first hand in the police department and it disillusioned him and ruined his life. You think it is all about himself and revenge? If so you are wrong. This is about bullshit that has been allowed to perpetuate and grow within our so called "peace keepers" service. There are very few good cops now and they keep their mouths shut and cover for the bad ones or they would lose their jobs and be a "no" cop just like this fellow.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8443185

Sad.

No,this isn't how normal people with a conscience handle things.
 Quoting: Little Willow

You still don't get it.

How do cops without a conscious handle things?

How far would you let them push you... how far would you let them push innocent people and when they are the law what are you going to do about it? there is no legal recourse. You are one of those people that just stand by and do nothing because doing something violate your so called conscious?

This is life and death. Dorner is defending his country.

You think I am condoning murder? at what point do you care enough about your country and your people that you are willing to die and kill for it? That is what is in this guy.... honor(soldier's honor) Very rare things these days and even rarer still to find it in someone capable of making a difference. Dorner is making a difference. The bigger mess this all becomes the more likely it will lead to policy changes and differences in how the police do their job. Perhaps more legal recourse against police brutality.

...and you are right he is not "normal". He is better then normal. Normal is to be a common sheeple. With a single layer "rule book" of morals you use and no sight of the bigger picture.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8443185

You people are as disturbed as he is. It's really sad.
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WHOAA!!!!!!

DING DING DING

look at the security camera:
[link to maps.google.com]

I just noticed that
so that would have caught the shootout most likely
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33968321


Yes, this. They must have it if it happened the way they said it did. Why aren't they releasing it?
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You still don't get it.

How do cops without a conscious handle things?

How far would you let them push you... how far would you let them push innocent people and when they are the law what are you going to do about it? there is no legal recourse. You are one of those people that just stand by and do nothing because doing something violate your so called conscious?

This is life and death. Dorner is defending his country.

You think I am condoning murder? at what point do you care enough about your country and your people that you are willing to die and kill for it? That is what is in this guy.... honor(soldier's honor) Very rare things these days and even rarer still to find it in someone capable of making a difference. Dorner is making a difference. The bigger mess this all becomes the more likely it will lead to policy changes and differences in how the police do their job. Perhaps more legal recourse against police brutality.

...and you are right he is not "normal". He is better then normal. Normal is to be a common sheeple. With a single layer "rule book" of morals you use and no sight of the bigger picture.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8443185


Youre the one who clearly doesnt 'get it.'

If your brother/sister/family member fired someone at their job, it is then justifiable for that fired person to kill you and any of your family members.

Thats exactly what youre being agreeable with.

Dorner killed Ms Quan because he felt her father didnt defend him well enough as legal counsel.

Thats fucked up, and so are you if you think thats justifiable in any way!
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He may be laying low at Disney in a Donald Duck costume dissing kids.

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I hope he makes it to court! Imagine what a freakin hero he'd be in jail! He'll be like the king of the jail!!
Imagine that street cred! He'll get Ll the recognition his crazy bar ics sits mint craves (in jail)
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He does have supporters.

But the driver of this vehicle must have some sort of deathwish driving around in that thing.
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You still don't get it.

How do cops without a conscious handle things?

How far would you let them push you... how far would you let them push innocent people and when they are the law what are you going to do about it? there is no legal recourse. You are one of those people that just stand by and do nothing because doing something violate your so called conscious?

This is life and death. Dorner is defending his country.

You think I am condoning murder? at what point do you care enough about your country and your people that you are willing to die and kill for it? That is what is in this guy.... honor(soldier's honor) Very rare things these days and even rarer still to find it in someone capable of making a difference. Dorner is making a difference. The bigger mess this all becomes the more likely it will lead to policy changes and differences in how the police do their job. Perhaps more legal recourse against police brutality.

...and you are right he is not "normal". He is better then normal. Normal is to be a common sheeple. With a single layer "rule book" of morals you use and no sight of the bigger picture.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8443185


Youre the one who clearly doesnt 'get it.'

If your brother/sister/family member fired someone at their job, it is then justifiable for that fired person to kill you and any of your family members.

Thats exactly what youre being agreeable with.

Dorner killed Ms Quan because he felt her father didnt defend him well enough as legal counsel.

Thats fucked up, and so are you if you think thats justifiable in any way!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33968321


bump
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02/10/2013 05:30 PM
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[link to www.trafficland.com]

lets you scroll map to Los Angeles area
I checked Riverside and they have cams on 215 but they do not have dated days back, unfortunately
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WHOAA!!!!!!

DING DING DING

look at the security camera:
[link to maps.google.com]

I just noticed that
so that would have caught the shootout most likely
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33968321


Yes, this. They must have it if it happened the way they said it did. Why aren't they releasing it?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34085181


Yes of course! What better way for them to hype up the public against Dorner to convince them of their case against him.

So where's the footage?



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