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Mrbillybadass

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Officers fired possibly more than 20-30 rounds at an unarmed, sitting duck target only wounding one completely unprepared person??? And the man they are looking for is highly trained?? I bet they're literally quaking in their boots...
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Goes to show how accurate policemen AREN'T with their shooting skills - just like in the movies....... Thank God their shooting sucks! At least in this case.....
 Quoting: BunnyGirl


We have proof that they are lying about the number of rounds.

I count 47 bullet holes in the back of this truck.

CDTruck1
 Quoting: CowboyEE


No doubt this is a shoot to kill standing order. They don't want this guy talking to anyone. Their shots were all over the place. Who trained these so called "professionals"?
 Quoting: TheTruthMonger


It's funny scared shitless they are. What we should do is say "hey give us your weapons and guns it's only to give safety to us and you(LAPD)...don't worry well protect you from the big and scary Dorner."
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02/09/2013 02:35 PM
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Let us remember Anaheim, California this past summer:

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02/09/2013 02:36 PM
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Not long ago on ABC News 24 that three former members of Dorner's old Navy unit have gone to LA and possibly joined him.
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people are hanging banners offering Dorner food, water and ammo. Does anyone out there have any pics of that





If true this would be the start of an isurrection.

If the gangs in LA join Dorner and Co. This could be the trigger needed for martial law.
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02/09/2013 02:37 PM
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That's a very good point. You see that police officer in this story likely is/was mentally unstable. Some sort of power complex going on, that prevented him from making just, fair and rationale decisions on the job. This former police officer that is being hunted down is likely mentally unstable and the police department that he worked for fired him for it. So he wants "revenge". I hope some people here are getting it. The very thing that you are all upset about...the wrong people wearing a uniform is what is the issue here. For some reason some of you just don't see that this Donner guy is not the kind of guy we want wearing a police uniform. The LAPD are not always the "bad guys".
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Wow have you missed the boat on this! The point of this whole thing is there is NO evidence nor any claimed evidence other than a friggin internet post. This guy has been tried and prosecuted by the media on nothing more than an internet post. And based on that internet post we have police opening fire on innocent people and searching house to house and pulling over searching vehicles on the freeways. THAT is the point. btw just for your benefit I'll repeat here - Dorner received many awards from both the Navy and also from LAPD - how would he get these awards if he mentally unstable.

You need to study a bit deeper and think seriously how any of this story can possibly affect your future or the future of your friends and family if cops are allowed to search without warrant and open fire without identifying what they are shooting at, people are guilty without trial and no evidence required.
 Quoting: BunnyGirl



I understand your point. The PD should have to prove that the guy killed the people they claimed he killed, first, before they go out shooting at him. My point is that I have a little more faith in the PD then that. That perhaps they have the proof? Perhaps not.
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your mentality is exactly what the desired police state prescribes....
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Just curious. How many people should die, before your mentality changes? Serious question. Should they only bring him in alive?
BunnyGirl (OP)

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Not long ago on ABC News 24 that three former members of Dorner's old Navy unit have gone to LA and possibly joined him.
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WOW - I'll have to check this out - would it be to join him or convince him to turn himself in - did they say why they think what they think?
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I'd be careful - questioning the posted facts may get you paid a visit !
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02/09/2013 02:38 PM
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Not long ago on ABC News 24 that three former members of Dorner's old Navy unit have gone to LA and possibly joined him.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 589518


people are hanging banners offering Dorner food, water and ammo. Does anyone out there have any pics of that





If true this would be the start of an isurrection.

If the gangs in LA join Dorner and Co. This could be the trigger needed for martial law.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8361466


O.o if true...holy shit this is serious.
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...The LAPD found that Chris was lying about Teresa Evans kicking this gentleman because his testimony was not consistent...
 Quoting: CowboyEE


Oh BS, they lie and fudge documentation on anyone they want to if and when they want to. If this Chris Dorner really does exist, he is probably innocent. It wouldn't surprise me in the least if they did all of the shootings and are framing him for it.
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Wow have you missed the boat on this! The point of this whole thing is there is NO evidence nor any claimed evidence other than a friggin internet post. This guy has been tried and prosecuted by the media on nothing more than an internet post. And based on that internet post we have police opening fire on innocent people and searching house to house and pulling over searching vehicles on the freeways. THAT is the point. btw just for your benefit I'll repeat here - Dorner received many awards from both the Navy and also from LAPD - how would he get these awards if he mentally unstable.

You need to study a bit deeper and think seriously how any of this story can possibly affect your future or the future of your friends and family if cops are allowed to search without warrant and open fire without identifying what they are shooting at, people are guilty without trial and no evidence required.
 Quoting: BunnyGirl



I understand your point. The PD should have to prove that the guy killed the people they claimed he killed, first, before they go out shooting at him. My point is that I have a little more faith in the PD then that. That perhaps they have the proof? Perhaps not.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11748687


your mentality is exactly what the desired police state prescribes....
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Just curious. How many people should die, before your mentality changes? Serious question. Should they only bring him in alive?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11748687


Its simple - according to his manifesto "I’ll be waiting for a PUBLIC response at a press conference. When the truth comes out, the killing stops"

Nobody else has to die at all if there is some truth coming out.

If he did these murders, if the manifesto is real......
Anonymous Coward
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02/09/2013 02:40 PM
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Well the suspect had Top security clearance. He may have known and was able to get one of those "invisible" suits that the military has now.

If he is running around and is invisible then the police and military are probably in a panic to get this guy.

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...The LAPD found that Chris was lying about Teresa Evans kicking this gentleman because his testimony was not consistent...
 Quoting: CowboyEE


Oh BS, they lie and fudge documentation on anyone they want to if and when they want to. If this Chris Dorner really does exist, he is probably innocent. It wouldn't surprise me in the least if they did all of the shootings and are framing him for it.
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How easy would it be to frame someone with a facebook account?
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INTERVIEW with DORNAN'S EX-GIRLFRIEND!!!

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I have heard rumors that in 1972 a crack commando unit was sent to prison by a military court for a crime they didn't commit. These men promptly escaped from a maximum security stockade to the Los Angeles underground. Today, still wanted by the government, they survive as soldiers of fortune.

If you have a problem, if no one else can help, and if you can find them, maybe you can hire the A-Team.
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Hmmmmmmmmmmm........very interesting all this is!!!!!!!!
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I have heard rumors that in 1972 a crack commando unit was sent to prison by a military court for a crime they didn't commit. These men promptly escaped from a maximum security stockade to the Los Angeles underground. Today, still wanted by the government, they survive as soldiers of fortune.

If you have a problem, if no one else can help, and if you can find them, maybe you can hire the A-Team.
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Bah , bah bah , bah bah bah!!!!!! Best show ever !! Lol!
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I'd be careful - questioning the posted facts may get you paid a visit !
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How many Dorners do they want to create?
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Wow have you missed the boat on this! The point of this whole thing is there is NO evidence nor any claimed evidence other than a friggin internet post. This guy has been tried and prosecuted by the media on nothing more than an internet post. And based on that internet post we have police opening fire on innocent people and searching house to house and pulling over searching vehicles on the freeways. THAT is the point. btw just for your benefit I'll repeat here - Dorner received many awards from both the Navy and also from LAPD - how would he get these awards if he mentally unstable.

You need to study a bit deeper and think seriously how any of this story can possibly affect your future or the future of your friends and family if cops are allowed to search without warrant and open fire without identifying what they are shooting at, people are guilty without trial and no evidence required.
 Quoting: BunnyGirl



I understand your point. The PD should have to prove that the guy killed the people they claimed he killed, first, before they go out shooting at him. My point is that I have a little more faith in the PD then that. That perhaps they have the proof? Perhaps not.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11748687


your mentality is exactly what the desired police state prescribes....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25732701



Just curious. How many people should die, before your mentality changes? Serious question. Should they only bring him in alive?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11748687


evaluate the death toll between who Dorner has taken out against the number of unarmed citizens the LAPD has taken out. your answer just requires some redirection but is essentially on target "How many people should die before YOUR mentality changes?"

[link to articles.latimes.com]
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I'd be careful - questioning the posted facts may get you paid a visit !
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Thank you for the warning. I thought about that.

But then I thought too about the protections we as Americans are supposed to have - innocent until proven guilty - fair trial - no unreasonable searches - etc etc......

Is it worse for an innocent man to go to jail or is it worse for a guilty man to run free?

I have to look myself in the mirror and if I do not say something I am just as guilty as those breaking the law and violating rights, justified by a friggin internet post. Fear mongering on tv based on an internet post from a suspicious facebook account.

Remember - we were told that if you see something, say something. Ok I'll play their little game - I saw something and it wasn't right so I'm saying something. Plain and simple - They didn't validate the source of the manifesto, which is what this whole circus in SoCal is based on. Which btw is what got Dorner fired - he saw something and he said something.......
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If the man who was supposedly kicked by Dorner's superior backed the story, how was it determined that Dorner lied? The LAPD had the burden to prove he lied but his story was corroborated. SO what if all of the thin blue line backed the story?

Not that this justifies killing, especially the childr of his attorney. At least in my view. However, when you have these institutions spitting on things like truth (under oath), honor and morals, then you are going to create monsters like Dorner. Welcome to the blowback, machine.
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I understand your point. The PD should have to prove that the guy killed the people they claimed he killed, first, before they go out shooting at him. My point is that I have a little more faith in the PD then that. That perhaps they have the proof? Perhaps not.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11748687


your mentality is exactly what the desired police state prescribes....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25732701



Just curious. How many people should die, before your mentality changes? Serious question. Should they only bring him in alive?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11748687


evaluate the death toll between who Dorner has taken out against the number of unarmed citizens the LAPD has taken out. your answer just requires some redirection but is essentially on target "How many people should die before YOUR mentality changes?"

[link to articles.latimes.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25732701


What? One wrong does not justify another.

Do you have a personality disorder? Seriously?

I keep saying the same thing. You are all bitching about injustices from cops and they fire this guy because he is a liar and they don't want a cop who is a liar on their force.

What the hell are you all bitching about? Check yourself! Seriously.
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OP you may be on to something.

Maybe you can figure it all out and clear Dorner's name before he's killed!
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your mentality is exactly what the desired police state prescribes....
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Just curious. How many people should die, before your mentality changes? Serious question. Should they only bring him in alive?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11748687


evaluate the death toll between who Dorner has taken out against the number of unarmed citizens the LAPD has taken out. your answer just requires some redirection but is essentially on target "How many people should die before YOUR mentality changes?"

[link to articles.latimes.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25732701


What? One wrong does not justify another.

Do you have a personality disorder? Seriously?

I keep saying the same thing. You are all bitching about injustices from cops and they fire this guy because he is a liar and they don't want a cop who is a liar on their force.

What the hell are you all bitching about? Check yourself! Seriously.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11748687


What motive did he have to lie about the improper actions of his superior? It would only get him in trouble - which it did. Then, they railroaded him even when his story was corroborated.

Tactics like these will engender blowback. I do not condone killing. But I understand the actions of the LAPD led directly to what is occurring. When you F with trained and intelligent people who know how to kill, well....
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I'd be careful - questioning the posted facts may get you paid a visit !
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Thank you for the warning. I thought about that.

But then I thought too about the protections we as Americans are supposed to have - innocent until proven guilty - fair trial - no unreasonable searches - etc etc......

Is it worse for an innocent man to go to jail or is it worse for a guilty man to run free?

I have to look myself in the mirror and if I do not say something I am just as guilty as those breaking the law and violating rights, justified by a friggin internet post. Fear mongering on tv based on an internet post from a suspicious facebook account.

Remember - we were told that if you see something, say something. Ok I'll play their little game - I saw something and it wasn't right so I'm saying something. Plain and simple - They didn't validate the source of the manifesto, which is what this whole circus in SoCal is based on. Which btw is what got Dorner fired - he saw something and he said something.......
 Quoting: BunnyGirl


Well Said!!

I agree whole heartedly.
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OP you may be on to something.

Maybe you can figure it all out and clear Dorner's name before he's killed!
 Quoting: JR 33968321


JR you're a crack up! LOL! We don't know if Dorner is guilty or not. We don't know what evidence links him to any murders other than an internet post.

I have no opinion of Dorner at this point other than he has a great smile and received awards from Navy and LAPD and had a great looking truck. I would not be able to pick him out of a lineup of big black bald men unless he were to smile.

I only have opinion that the reaction seems unjustified given what us sheep have been told by the talking heads. I do however have definite opinion of cops opening fire on those two trucks, and of the house-to-house searches and pulling over every truck that closely resembles Dorner's truck.
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But I understand the actions of the LAPD led directly to what is occurring.
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No, you believe what Dorner wrote.


When you F with trained and intelligent people who know how to kill, well....
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No - when you have a paranoid racist problem-maker loudmouth like Dorner who continually creates problems in his own life yet always is blaming everyone but himself, you may on rare occasions have someone turn violent.

The fact that he had isolated himself and removed every single important person from his life through continual conflict should be a clue as to his personal and emotional problems that had developed.

Is the rest of the world the problem, or is Chris Dorner the problem?
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INTERVIEW with DORNAN'S EX-GIRLFRIEND!!!

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 Quoting: goodmockingbird


They can make you pretty paranoid if they are lying in documentation and framing you for things you did not do. Also, be aware that news outlets get much of their info from police reports, which, if fudged to begin with, can create an out of control snowball effect of "he said - she said" mixed untruths. Just sayin'!
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your mentality is exactly what the desired police state prescribes....
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Just curious. How many people should die, before your mentality changes? Serious question. Should they only bring him in alive?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11748687


evaluate the death toll between who Dorner has taken out against the number of unarmed citizens the LAPD has taken out. your answer just requires some redirection but is essentially on target "How many people should die before YOUR mentality changes?"

[link to articles.latimes.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25732701


What? One wrong does not justify another.

Do you have a personality disorder? Seriously?

I keep saying the same thing. You are all bitching about injustices from cops and they fire this guy because he is a liar and they don't want a cop who is a liar on their force.

What the hell are you all bitching about? Check yourself! Seriously.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11748687

The guy had a Top Security clearance from the military. You do not get that unless you have been thoroughly checked out.

Then he gets involved with the LAPD where integrity is not an issue. It came down to his word against some butch dyke psychopath's word and they went with the dyke's word instead of his.

He earned the right to be believed where she was handed everything she had because of her alternative life style. Give me a break, use your brain.


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Not long ago on ABC News 24 that three former members of Dorner's old Navy unit have gone to LA and possibly joined him.
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people are hanging banners offering Dorner food, water and ammo. Does anyone out there have any pics of that





If true this would be the start of an isurrection.

If the gangs in LA join Dorner and Co. This could be the trigger needed for martial law.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8361466


O.o if true...holy shit this is serious.
 Quoting: Mrbillybadass


Compendium of various facebook and other websites supporting Dorner:

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In Memory of Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty: American Heroes, Abandoned and Betrayed.
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If the man who was supposedly kicked by Dorner's superior backed the story, how was it determined that Dorner lied? The LAPD had the burden to prove he lied but his story was corroborated. SO what if all of the thin blue line backed the story?

Not that this justifies killing, especially the childr of his attorney. At least in my view. However, when you have these institutions spitting on things like truth (under oath), honor and morals, then you are going to create monsters like Dorner. Welcome to the blowback, machine.
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No it does not justify the killing. A couple of quick clarifications.

The individual Kicked by officer Evan's is mentally hanidicapped. His Deposition is posted above. This individuals father also told police that his son was kicked in the face.

The 2 people killed were the daughter of Retired Police Captain Kwan? and her boyfriend. Captain Kwan? was supposidly in charge when Dorner was fired.
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But I understand the actions of the LAPD led directly to what is occurring.
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No, you believe what Dorner wrote.


When you F with trained and intelligent people who know how to kill, well....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31799401

No - when you have a paranoid racist problem-maker loudmouth like Dorner who continually creates problems in his own life yet always is blaming everyone but himself, you may on rare occasions have someone turn violent.

The fact that he had isolated himself and removed every single important person from his life through continual conflict should be a clue as to his personal and emotional problems that had developed.

Is the rest of the world the problem, or is Chris Dorner the problem?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33968321


How was he honorably discharged from the Navy if he was so psycho?

What motive did he have to turn his supervisor in for kicking a man who was down? It only causes trouble to turn your boss in.

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