California Manhunt

You still don't get it.

How do cops without a conscious handle things?

How far would you let them push you... how far would you let them push innocent people and when they are the law what are you going to do about it? there is no legal recourse. You are one of those people that just stand by and do nothing because doing something violate your so called conscious?

This is life and death. Dorner is defending his country.

You think I am condoning murder? at what point do you care enough about your country and your people that you are willing to die and kill for it? That is what is in this guy.... honor(soldier's honor) Very rare things these days and even rarer still to find it in someone capable of making a difference. Dorner is making a difference. The bigger mess this all becomes the more likely it will lead to policy changes and differences in how the police do their job. Perhaps more legal recourse against police brutality.

...and you are right he is not "normal". He is better then normal. Normal is to be a common sheeple. With a single layer "rule book" of morals you use and no sight of the bigger picture.

*reasonably - consider yourself red-penned.

You also need to retype that "the bird they're hunting can sing a whole opera, which could take down the LAPD's candy castle" line. This time type in a James Cagney voice. It'll be awesomely film noir.

I believe we are seeing a very public psychological operation in play here. Do I believe this Dormer fellow has snapped and gone rogue? Yes indeedy.

LAPD's SIS are a group of very crafty cops who use improvization, deception, surveillance, top investigative skills and violence of action to capture or kill the worst criminals in their jurisdiction - from serial killers to bank robbery crews, to gangs, to... rogue former policemen working their way down a hit list.

Knowing as we do that it's likely Dormer suffers from some type of a pathological narcissism disorder, some creative editing of his letter may be a good way to make him surface. They are probably of the opinion that he will attempt to contact the media to "correct" his manifesto. They could be right, time will tell...

I believe that the recent announcement by the LAPD's Chief of Police that they would investigate Dormer's claims is a second attempt at flushing him out. They may expect the bad guy to make contact in order to clear his name or "testify" at an internal affairs inquiry. Obviously it's a ruse.

I get the feeling that this could be bigger than the Rodney King incident if it ends badly. By "ends badly", I mean if Dormer is taken into custody alive rather than killed in a shootout or by suicide. He will be a martyr whether he takes a .40 cal tylenol and goes down for the dirt nap with Baby Jesus or not, but he is able to inflict far less damage to his former police colleagues and their department if he's a dead martyr. If he survives and pleads "not guilty", it may become scary. In California there are precedents of "sure-thing" murder convictions resulting in acquittal. The famous OJ Simpson trial is just one example. That scenario would be an absolute nightmare for the City of Los Angeles.

It will be interesting to see how this all pans out.

My money says he made it to his hideout on the mountain. He will probably shoot himself. Who knows when his corpse will be found.

The LA judicial circus has been reeling since they dropped the ball on OJ. He is correct that the slime from the days of Rodney King have made their way into upper brass, go figure.

I think we are seeing our first domestic terror perp. By choice or is it contrived? Remains to be seen. Maybe he drank too much Kool_Aid.

I agree.

Disagree. To the east of Big Bear, down off the mountain is a vast desert area, where 29 Palms and the Marine base are....lots of uninhabited area, lots of abandoned shacks. Through there is the back way to Las Vegas where his house is located. My guess is he knows that territory well. He would be a fool to stay any where near Big Bear.

I disagree as well.

Did you even read his manifesto? Assuming it's his, he has no intention of going out without a fight.

Use him as a symbol of resistance to a corrupt system if you like, but realize he's a paper tiger - essentially an habitual loser who blames everyone but himself.

And we hire someone like this to be a police officer, why?

*reasonably - consider yourself red-penned.

You also need to retype that "the bird they're hunting can sing a whole opera, which could take down the LAPD's candy castle" line. This time type in a James Cagney voice. It'll be awesomely film noir.

I believe we are seeing a very public psychological operation in play here. Do I believe this Dormer fellow has snapped and gone rogue? Yes indeedy.

LAPD's SIS are a group of very crafty cops who use improvization, deception, surveillance, top investigative skills and violence of action to capture or kill the worst criminals in their jurisdiction - from serial killers to bank robbery crews, to gangs, to... rogue former policemen working their way down a hit list.

Knowing as we do that it's likely Dormer suffers from some type of a pathological narcissism disorder, some creative editing of his letter may be a good way to make him surface. They are probably of the opinion that he will attempt to contact the media to "correct" his manifesto. They could be right, time will tell...

I believe that the recent announcement by the LAPD's Chief of Police that they would investigate Dormer's claims is a second attempt at flushing him out. They may expect the bad guy to make contact in order to clear his name or "testify" at an internal affairs inquiry. Obviously it's a ruse.

I get the feeling that this could be bigger than the Rodney King incident if it ends badly. By "ends badly", I mean if Dormer is taken into custody alive rather than killed in a shootout or by suicide. He will be a martyr whether he takes a .40 cal tylenol and goes down for the dirt nap with Baby Jesus or not, but he is able to inflict far less damage to his former police colleagues and their department if he's a dead martyr. If he survives and pleads "not guilty", it may become scary. In California there are precedents of "sure-thing" murder convictions resulting in acquittal. The famous OJ Simpson trial is just one example. That scenario would be an absolute nightmare for the City of Los Angeles.

It will be interesting to see how this all pans out.

Is there something wrong with my scanner feed or is there virtually nothing happening now

They said last night that the FBI and the rest of the organizations are setting up a command center.
Im thinking they have switched their communication to a secure channel.
They know Dorner could be listing in on their efforts to find him.

Is there something wrong with my scanner feed or is there virtually nothing happening now

You can see the rack in the dumpster video.

The second truck down in San Diego with his plates on it does not have the rack.

bunnygirl

links not working.
so is it fake or he removed the rack?

Here's the video of Dorner throwing things into a dumpster - they released it last night.

I dont know about guns, but there are so many bullets. It looks like they used semi auto weapons and maybe reloaded? Is that an asenine observation? Seems like a lot for a regular gun.

so he had at least two trucks, houses, gear ... he was doing good, had a life it seems according to material goods ... gets canned from military and blames LAPD allegedly, I wonder if people in the LAPD were contacted about him and they threw him under the bus?

We lost his position and was about to lose is income flow, lose his positions? I wonder the current status of his house, cars ... paid for? under loan? in red?

Hmm