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Great how the BRASS says "its under investigation" but..."it was reasonable".

That is how corrupt investigations go, the police are presumed justified then the "investigation" is bent to fit the justification presumption.

THAT is the very essence of systemic corruption!!

When the facts do not support the outcome we want, we simply ignore the facts and rule on emotion or whatever enigmatic definition of policy we choose.
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All this gun stuff, drone stuff, is being throated and accelerated into acceptance by the population for a reason.

What is it ?

someones in a hurry !

hiding
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Not sure if this has been posted:

"It was revealed that Dorner has become the first human target for remotely-controlled airborne drones on US soil."

[link to www.express.co.uk]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31502749


Ok this is pretty much a dead giveaway that this entire thing is a hoax and a made up excuse to deploy armed remotely operated military aircraft routinely in civilian airspace.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33848222


Yes, and do you not find it suspicious that he is one of their own? I wonder if he was assigned to this mission, or am I too much of a conspiracy theorist?
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That was probably as a result of a focus group finding that they will have greater success if it appears like the FIRST test case is used on a member of LE or Military rather than an average Joe citizen.
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Looking for more updates this morning, I came across this article which gives links to data dumps, dug up by a reporter.

If you are interested in reading any documentation related to his claims, here you go.

Legal analyst Robin Sax dug up 21 documents related to the instances of alleged police corruption that ex-LAPD officer Chris Dorner detailed in his online manifesto. Among the documents are Internal Affairs information, Court of Appeals documents and more.

Actual links here: [link to www.myfoxla.com]


DOCUMENTS: Deposition, Legal Papers Challenging LAPD


Dorner v LAPD Court Case

Petition for Writ of Mandamus (Robin says this is the document where Dorner asks the court to review LAPD's Board of Review's decision to terminate him):

Dorner v LAPD Apr2009

Dorner Board Selection Form

Dorner Application for Hearing LAPD

Dorner Power of Attorney

Dorner Board of Rights Time Waiver

Dorner Notice to Employee Representative

Dorner Substitution of Defense Counsel

Dorner Person Summary

Dorner LAPD Complaint Form

Dorner Interdepartmental Correspondence Jun2008

Dorner Interdepartmental Correspondence Oct2008

Dorner Addenda

Dorner Decision of the Board of Rights and Execution of the Order

Dorner Case Summary LA Sup Court

Dorner Board of Rights Appointment

Dorner Interdepartmental Correspondence Jul2008

Dorner Discovery Request Form

Appellate Court Decision:

Dorner v LAPD Appeal Oct2011

Other Documents:

Dorner v LAPD Attorney Change Oct2010

Dorner v LAPD Appeal Notice Aug2010

Dorner v City of Los Angeles Judgement
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Let's be honest guys. This is a wacked out communist who wants to murder white conservative police officers. Why do you people insist on praising this cop murdering leftist? He is not a hero. He openly wants to install a communist regime and kills innocent people and kids. He listed Islam as his religion on his military paperwork. Why do you idiots look up to a communist muslim hell bent on destroying the republic? Sure are a bunch of democrat shills in this thread.
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"So in response to the above, we have the largest manhunt ever, which includes TWO separate incidents of police opening fire on innocent civilians - one of which put a 71 year old little Asian woman in ICU because she was shot IN THE BACK! Multiple vehicles and houses sustained damage due to these two shootings."

THE LAPD IS SO AFRAID THEY ARE PEEING IN THEIR BOOTS.

THEY KNOW THIS IS A REVOLUTION AGAINST CORRUPTION. AND THE CORRUPTION OF LAPD STINKS TO HIGH HEAVEN !!!

WHAT IF ANOTHER MILITARY TRAINED GUY, DECIDES TO END CORRUPTION THE U.S. CONGRESS? AND FOLLOWS DORNER PATH?

YOU SEE WHY THEY AFRAID?

THE WHOLE DECK OF CARDS WILL COME ON DOWN.

THE CABAL THAT THINKS THEY CONTROL AMERICA IS WORRIED.
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Not sure if this has been posted:

"It was revealed that Dorner has become the first human target for remotely-controlled airborne drones on US soil."

[link to www.express.co.uk]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31502749


Ok this is pretty much a dead giveaway that this entire thing is a hoax and a made up excuse to deploy armed remotely operated military aircraft routinely in civilian airspace.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33848222


that link turned out to not have that content in the article, and the "spokesperson" has no value on google other than that bogus reference.

check the veracity of your links before you re-post this junk.

these things are too important to rely on hearsay and false reports.
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Not sure if this has been posted:

"It was revealed that Dorner has become the first human target for remotely-controlled airborne drones on US soil."

[link to www.express.co.uk]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31502749


Ok this is pretty much a dead giveaway that this entire thing is a hoax and a made up excuse to deploy armed remotely operated military aircraft routinely in civilian airspace.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33848222


that link turned out to not have that content in the article, and the "spokesperson" has no value on google other than that bogus reference.

check the veracity of your links before you re-post this junk.

these things are too important to rely on hearsay and false reports.
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no wait, wait..
i forgot, this is glp and we are all avatars
:)

carry on
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All this gun stuff, drone stuff, is being throated and accelerated into acceptance by the population for a reason.

What is it ?

someones in a hurry !

hiding
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not really by the population, but just people stuck on here, or other forums.
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Let's be honest guys. This is a wacked out communist who wants to murder white conservative police officers. Why do you people insist on praising this cop murdering leftist? He is not a hero. He openly wants to install a communist regime and kills innocent people and kids. He listed Islam as his religion on his military paperwork. Why do you idiots look up to a communist muslim hell bent on destroying the republic? Sure are a bunch of democrat shills in this thread.
 Quoting: JR 6340903


First of all,

I am a republican

Second of all,

In no way saying he was justified in his actions if he is guilty of doing them. He should be held accountable if he did them. Two wrongs dont make a right.

My interest is in the investigation of his claims. The LAPD is already in a sense proving his claims true, first they shot at two women in a truck, then they shot at a guy in a truck. It shows many things, either they are not trained well enough, not discplined enough, or they just want him dead. In either of these reasons, it shows they do not have regard for their citizens as they should. They are not making themselves look good at all.

I only hope all truth comes out, and all responsible parties for any crimes any of them committed are held accountable to the fullest extent of the law.

hf
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LL Cool J needs to stay inside until this matter is resolved. I hope he doesnt drive a pickup.
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LL Cool J needs to stay inside until this matter is resolved. I hope he doesnt drive a pickup.
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I think he should keep his boombox on the dashboard if he goes out.

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they're trolling glp for resistance sympathizers
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Things you need to consider now:

1. Dorner is likely dead. He may be good, but he's not THAT good. Consider him the new Osama bin Laden. The joker to LAPD's Batman. He may have even been killed before this whole "manhunt" begin, bin-Laden style. Has anyone seen him since this manhunt" began? No. Were there any witnesses to the supposed "shootings" he perpetrated? No. All the information that we are been given is coming from the police and the media. Jesus, he probably didn't even write the damn manifesto (any of the 3 "versions" that have surfaced). They were posted to a Facebook account that was created a few days before he was declared a suspect, and then the account was shut down. But because the LAPD - an organization so corrupt that it could probably give the DHS training tips - releases a "manifesto" penned by Dorner, we are supposed to believe it? A manifesto in which a guy who is armed to the teeth with a mobile arsenal insists that Americans should NOT have the right to bear arms? The same guy who has lost all faith in the system and thinks the cops are corrupt thugs? The thugs should be able to keep their weapons but the innocents who are bullied by them should surrender their's? Right. Use your head. That's the first thing that didn't make sense to me.

2. Already 3 innocent people have been fired upon, their vehicles riddled with bullets, in the search for ONE man. The second instance that occurred yesterday involved a truck (white) that LAPD thought "looked" like Dorner's truck:

[link to www.latimes.com]

And wasn't Dorner's truck already "found" in Big Bear, burned to a crisp? So why are the police still looking for a truck "matching" the description of his? Why does the this rampage of LAPD terror and intimidation continue against Southern California drivers even though the police really have no idea what kind of vehicle Dorner is riving now? Makes no sense.

3. But I will tell you what does make sense: the use of drones. And it has now been authorized to hunt and kill this man whom they have no intention of ever bringing to trial:

"Yesterday, as a task force of 125 officers, some riding Snowcats in the rugged terrain, continued their search, it was revealed that Dorner has become the first human target for remotely-controlled airborne drones on US soil.

A senior police source said: “The thermal imaging cameras the drones use may be our only hope of finding him. On the ground, it’s like looking for a needle in a haystack.”

[link to www.express.co.uk]

A "needle in a haystack". That's what we all are, people. Troublesome needles that they will need thermal imaging and drones to locate and dispose of.

Dorner is a test case for conditioning the populace: to random searches of vehicles at gunpoint, to becoming collateral damage as innocents are mowed down in the search for "troublemakers", to the use of drones to pinpoint the "needles in the haystacks".

Connect the dots. Try and keep up. This game is now being played way too fast for you to simply rely mostly on information that you are being given by the media. Read the comments in articles about this story. Two common themes emerge: (1) No one trusts the LAPD anymore and (2) everyone is advising black men and people with blue trucks to stay inside their homes.

Conditioning, conditioning, conditioning.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13567438


Great post. I agree with your premise and further it with the addition of thinking that they MUST already know the outcome before this got started.
I also think that Dorner was dead before the "manifest" got posted in his name.
This will be a psy-op and they probably already have drone footage in the can of his "demise".
Now whether or not it will be real is debateable.
If they "chase" him into a desert, a scene from the middle East might be used.

I find it highly unlikely that "he" will be chased down in some populated area and zapped from a drone.

But, whatever, the point will be that this was ALWAYS about using drones on Americans on US soil being given an
"acceptable" precedent.
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bumpHe's probably on ice as we speak.he'll probably look like those fake Husseins or Osamas when they show it.Will they bury him at see because he was in the navy.Que: In the navy....
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Let's be honest guys. This is a wacked out communist who wants to murder white conservative police officers. Why do you people insist on praising this cop murdering leftist? He is not a hero. He openly wants to install a communist regime and kills innocent people and kids. He listed Islam as his religion on his military paperwork. Why do you idiots look up to a communist muslim hell bent on destroying the republic? Sure are a bunch of democrat shills in this thread.
 Quoting: JR 6340903


Morning JR. Who here is calling him a hero besides you? Seems to me folks on this thread are looking for FACTS and thats about it. What are you doing? Looks to me like you are trying to pick fights, and playing judge and jury and not interested in investigating facts - very unlike the JR yesterday or the JR last night. Come on dude give it a break and just focus on FACTS! Thats the whole point of this thread. Please play nice with the rest of us trying to learn everything they can about this mystery. For instance instead of posting meanness like you did above, why don't you post a reputable link that shows he listed Islam on his military paperwork instead of calling people names like a child on a playground trying to pick fights. That might inspire folks to go out and find out what Islam could possibly have to do with any of this.
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On Sunday morning, authorities received a tip that Dorner may have been spotted down the mountain in San Bernardino, forcing the evacuation of an apartment complex, but it turned out to be a false alarm.

[link to latimesblogs.latimes.com]

Their scaling back search in Big Bear area -
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Things you need to consider now:

1. Dorner is likely dead. He may be good, but he's not THAT good. Consider him the new Osama bin Laden. The joker to LAPD's Batman. He may have even been killed before this whole "manhunt" begin, bin-Laden style. Has anyone seen him since this manhunt" began? No. Were there any witnesses to the supposed "shootings" he perpetrated? No. All the information that we are been given is coming from the police and the media. Jesus, he probably didn't even write the damn manifesto (any of the 3 "versions" that have surfaced). They were posted to a Facebook account that was created a few days before he was declared a suspect, and then the account was shut down. But because the LAPD - an organization so corrupt that it could probably give the DHS training tips - releases a "manifesto" penned by Dorner, we are supposed to believe it? A manifesto in which a guy who is armed to the teeth with a mobile arsenal insists that Americans should NOT have the right to bear arms? The same guy who has lost all faith in the system and thinks the cops are corrupt thugs? The thugs should be able to keep their weapons but the innocents who are bullied by them should surrender their's? Right. Use your head. That's the first thing that didn't make sense to me.

2. Already 3 innocent people have been fired upon, their vehicles riddled with bullets, in the search for ONE man. The second instance that occurred yesterday involved a truck (white) that LAPD thought "looked" like Dorner's truck:

[link to www.latimes.com]

And wasn't Dorner's truck already "found" in Big Bear, burned to a crisp? So why are the police still looking for a truck "matching" the description of his? Why does the this rampage of LAPD terror and intimidation continue against Southern California drivers even though the police really have no idea what kind of vehicle Dorner is riving now? Makes no sense.

3. But I will tell you what does make sense: the use of drones. And it has now been authorized to hunt and kill this man whom they have no intention of ever bringing to trial:

"Yesterday, as a task force of 125 officers, some riding Snowcats in the rugged terrain, continued their search, it was revealed that Dorner has become the first human target for remotely-controlled airborne drones on US soil.

A senior police source said: “The thermal imaging cameras the drones use may be our only hope of finding him. On the ground, it’s like looking for a needle in a haystack.”

[link to www.express.co.uk]

A "needle in a haystack". That's what we all are, people. Troublesome needles that they will need thermal imaging and drones to locate and dispose of.

Dorner is a test case for conditioning the populace: to random searches of vehicles at gunpoint, to becoming collateral damage as innocents are mowed down in the search for "troublemakers", to the use of drones to pinpoint the "needles in the haystacks".

Connect the dots. Try and keep up. This game is now being played way too fast for you to simply rely mostly on information that you are being given by the media. Read the comments in articles about this story. Two common themes emerge: (1) No one trusts the LAPD anymore and (2) everyone is advising black men and people with blue trucks to stay inside their homes.

Conditioning, conditioning, conditioning.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13567438


Great post. I agree with your premise and further it with the addition of thinking that they MUST already know the outcome before this got started.
I also think that Dorner was dead before the "manifest" got posted in his name.
This will be a psy-op and they probably already have drone footage in the can of his "demise".
Now whether or not it will be real is debateable.
If they "chase" him into a desert, a scene from the middle East might be used.

I find it highly unlikely that "he" will be chased down in some populated area and zapped from a drone.

But, whatever, the point will be that this was ALWAYS about using drones on Americans on US soil being given an
"acceptable" precedent.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1482838


bumpHe's probably on ice as we speak.he'll probably look like those fake Husseins or Osamas when they show it.Will they bury him at see because he was in the navy.Que: In the navy....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 271325


Let's be honest guys. This is a wacked out communist who wants to murder white conservative police officers. Why do you people insist on praising this cop murdering leftist? He is not a hero. He openly wants to install a communist regime and kills innocent people and kids. He listed Islam as his religion on his military paperwork. Why do you idiots look up to a communist muslim hell bent on destroying the republic? Sure are a bunch of democrat shills in this thread.
 Quoting: JR 6340903


First of all,

I am a republican

Second of all,

In no way saying he was justified in his actions if he is guilty of doing them. He should be held accountable if he did them. Two wrongs dont make a right.

My interest is in the investigation of his claims. The LAPD is already in a sense proving his claims true, first they shot at two women in a truck, then they shot at a guy in a truck. It shows many things, either they are not trained well enough, not discplined enough, or they just want him dead. In either of these reasons, it shows they do not have regard for their citizens as they should. They are not making themselves look good at all.

I only hope all truth comes out, and all responsible parties for any crimes any of them committed are held accountable to the fullest extent of the law.

hf
 Quoting: J&V


I feel the same J&V. You've been posting some great stuff - been watching your work for a couple days here and you are so on top of it! I'm concerned that the law is followed - without innocent people having to give up rights - suc as does anyone have validation of any sort that there were or were not warrants on the door to door searches? Has this guy even been proven guilty beyond a shadow of a doubt - nope not until he goes to court - and I fear that will not happen because of all the hype - this guy will be shot on sight is my fear and we will never ever know the truth.
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On Sunday morning, authorities received a tip that Dorner may have been spotted down the mountain in San Bernardino, forcing the evacuation of an apartment complex, but it turned out to be a false alarm.

[link to latimesblogs.latimes.com]

Their scaling back search in Big Bear area -
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28689320


omg when will sanity prevail? How long is this 'fear' that is causing such lack in judgment, and lack of ensuring innocent people are not harmed, ensuring rights are not violated, going to last? They didn't even act this way with a serial killer in Orange County last year! Who btw killed many many more than Dorner is accused of.
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Stalone filmed that movie in my backyard. I lived in Silver Creek just outside of Hope. He was a great guy and into nature stuff. My friend still has the desk that he plowed his knife into from the cop station scene. Cheers
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Let's be honest guys. This is a wacked out communist who wants to murder white conservative police officers. Why do you people insist on praising this cop murdering leftist? He is not a hero. He openly wants to install a communist regime and kills innocent people and kids. He listed Islam as his religion on his military paperwork. Why do you idiots look up to a communist muslim hell bent on destroying the republic? Sure are a bunch of democrat shills in this thread.
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Wasn't it you poster who yesterday on another related thread spoke about listening to the scanner and then called for us to call C. Dorner a hero?

There is something about your posts that gives me the creeps intuitively... I said as much yesterday when you posted...

oneLOVE
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any fresh news on rambro?
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Can anyone say psy-op yet?
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Found this hypnosis relevant from another thread:

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Is this all a step in a grand scheme?
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Found this hypnosis relevant from another thread:

[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

Is this all a step in a grand scheme?
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That seems to be what is going on here
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I don't think they have killed him already. He's still on the loose.

He's made LAPD & other LE agencies look like totally incompetent fools so far. They couldn't even get him in Riverside when they supposedly saw him & were close to him.

I think if & when they do get him they will want the world to know to save face.
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I don't think they have killed him already. He's still on the loose.

He's made LAPD & other LE agencies look like totally incompetent fools so far. They couldn't even get him in Riverside when they supposedly saw him & were close to him.

I think if & when they do get him they will want the world to know to save face.
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This is all assuming droner(sic) is alive and well of course but I have my doubts
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I don't think they have killed him already. He's still on the loose.

He's made LAPD & other LE agencies look like totally incompetent fools so far. They couldn't even get him in Riverside when they supposedly saw him & were close to him.

I think if & when they do get him they will want the world to know to save face.
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Weird, after reading your post my mind went to an article I read about DHS overtaking domestic police and transitioning them into a federal police system ... I can't remember where I read that but I'll search for link:

Anyway, that would make sense why LAPD is looking so foolish, wouldn't it: They need the police to fail so they can step in and take over and what better way then to have a ex military threat with training over the heads of police protocol.

Speculation, I know - bought a valid thought
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I don't think they have killed him already. He's still on the loose.

He's made LAPD & other LE agencies look like totally incompetent fools so far. They couldn't even get him in Riverside when they supposedly saw him & were close to him.

I think if & when they do get him they will want the world to know to save face.
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I think this could be a diversionary tactic.
It makes this seem like it is about some 5 year
old disgruntled case with LAPD, when it is most
likely a military exercise.
Nobody in the media is making much about his
career in the military.
It was only highlighted when people became skeptical
that it has anything to do with LAPD.

People questioned what he did for income in the last
five years so then it gets released, oh well, he's been
in the Naval reserves all this time and only "dismissed"
a week or so ago from a high level position.

Do you see what I mean?
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Does anyone know what evidence there was that lead the police to suspect him in the first two homicides? Discounting "the manifesto", as that was found after he was already considered a suspect. Witnesses?

I just read that the LAPD came across the manifesto after links were sent via Twitter. Does anyone have a link to the "tweets" that linked to the manifesto? Or screen shot of the tweets?

The Facebook page where the manifesto was found was created shortly before all of this took place? I don't suppose anyone was able to get screen shots before it was removed?

Maybe I am confused, I have just started really reading about this....seems sketchy to me.

hf





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