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This is pretty cool. I wrote this about 20 or so years ago. It sounds very much like Indra's Net.

The universe is all created through thought patterns. All matter manifests itself through the idea of manifestation before the actuality of the macro, as well as micro, come into physical maturation. These thought patterns are not only created/evolved from human conception/conceptualization, but from a consciousness lying deeper in vibrational level than normal human perception. The Spirit Realms; thought without matter, mind without body.

Imagine an empty sky. No horizon, no clouds, no sun, no moon, stars. This sky is filled with a transparent fog. It stretches everywhere, permeates every space, and is all in that sky. As it is the only thing existing, it is everything and nothing. The only way for there to be something is a reaction in relationship, some way to look upon itself, compare itself, interact with itself. Since this fog is clear, it is Nothing. At the same time it is Everything because there is nothing else but this infinite nothingness, or in our model, this clear fog.

This fog is consciousness and at this point in description it is instinctual thought. It exists but has no awareness of its existence. As a purely hypothetical comparison, it is like our subconscious thought, or spirit. Humans know the subconscious exists but our conscious minds have no awareness of its existence. Subconscious, or Spirit, is intuitive thought. It 'lives' in areas of pure thought, since we can control normal consciousness through imagining, analyzing, reasoning and upon decisions, reacting.

Our normal consciousness lies in that area of at least two levels/modes of reality. The first level/mode is thought, the second level/mode is manifestation of those thoughts, being either/both subjective and/or objective existence. Subconscious is the complete blend of these two models. Is is instantaneous action (manifestation) and causation, of and during, the thought process.

That brings us back to our fog that is Nothing and Everything; our aware-less, dormant energy of thought. It instinctively blooms into awareness of itself. It has to. It must, for if the only thing in existence is unaware of itself, it is nothing. And, as we know, we are aware of ourselves. In order to be aware of itself (ourselves) it must be able to reflect upon itself. So it becomes reflections of thought patterns, and through fracticality, it reflects through infinity, all manifesting the same space and all subconsciously knowing that they are One.

And so a step is made in awareness, intelligent and sentient, instantly and continuously manifesting the all pervading Fog of Consciousness.
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Indra's net (also called Indra's jewels or Indra's pearls) is a metaphor used to illustrate the concepts of emptiness,[2] dependent origination,[3] and interpenetration[4] in Buddhist philosophy.
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Thanks Spirit. I can't believe it's been over 20 years since I wrote this.

Funny, I was looking at some of my old writings, like this, and they make so much sense now. When I wrote them, I was trying to figure out what I was envisioning. I read a lot of quantum physics back then, and some eastern philosophy, and when I would read stuff, I would get images in my head that contained more imagery than the information provided. So, like this, I would write down what I was 'seeing' in my head.
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Thanks Spirit. I can't believe it's been over 20 years since I wrote this.

Funny, I was looking at some of my old writings, like this, and they make so much sense now. When I wrote them, I was trying to figure out what I was envisioning. I read a lot of quantum physics back then, and some eastern philosophy, and when I would read stuff, I would get images in my head that contained more imagery than the information provided. So, like this, I would write down what I was 'seeing' in my head.
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I think at some point I'll expand on it. I see small gaps in it because of the sequence and usage of certain words.
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Or simply put OP.

All for one and one for all.


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So awesome. Good stuff sept.


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This is pretty cool. This was written 20 or so years ago. It sounds very much like Indra's Net.

The universe is all created through thought patterns. All matter manifests itself through the idea of manifestation before the actuality of the macro, as well as micro, come into physical maturation. These thought patterns are not only created/evolved from human conception/conceptualization, but from a consciousness lying deeper in vibrational level than normal human perception. The Spirit Realms; thought without matter, mind without body.

Imagine an empty sky. No horizon, no clouds, no sun, no moon, stars. This sky is filled with a transparent fog. It stretches everywhere, permeates every space, and is all in that sky. As it is the only thing existing, it is everything and nothing. The only way for there to be something is a reaction in relationship, some way to look upon itself, compare itself, interact with itself. Since this fog is clear, it is Nothing. At the same time it is Everything because there is nothing else but this infinite nothingness, or in our model, this clear fog.

This fog is consciousness and at this point in description it is instinctual thought. It exists but has no awareness of its existence. As a purely hypothetical comparison, it is like our subconscious thought, or spirit. Humans know the subconscious exists but our conscious minds have no awareness its existence. Subconscious, or Spirit, is intuitive thought. It 'lives' in areas of pure thought, since we can control normal consciousness through imagining, analyzing, reasoning and upon decisions, reacting.

Our normal consciousness lies in that area of at least two levels/modes of reality. The first level/mode is thought, the second level/mode is manifestation of those thoughts, being either/both subjective and/or objective existence. Subconscious is the complete blend of these two models. Is is instantaneous action (manifestation) and causation, of and during, the thought process.

That brings us back to our fog that is Nothing and Everything; our aware-less, dormant energy of thought. It instinctively blooms into awareness of itself. It has to. It must, for if the only thing in existence is unaware of itself, it is nothing. And, as we know, we are aware of ourselves. In order to be aware of itself (ourselves) it must be able to reflect upon itself. So it becomes reflections of thought patterns, and through fracticality, it reflects through infinity, all manifesting the same space and all subconsciously knowing that they are One.

And so a step is made in awareness, intelligent and sentient, instantly and continuously manifesting the all pervading Fog of Consciousness.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


That is what the Sepher Bereshith, Cosmogony of Moses, known in the West as "Genesis", is talking about.

" (...) the Spirit of God (Ruach Elohim) hovered above the surface of the waters (...)"
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So awesome. Good stuff sept.

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This is pretty cool. This was written 20 or so years ago. It sounds very much like Indra's Net.

The universe is all created through thought patterns. All matter manifests itself through the idea of manifestation before the actuality of the macro, as well as micro, come into physical maturation. These thought patterns are not only created/evolved from human conception/conceptualization, but from a consciousness lying deeper in vibrational level than normal human perception. The Spirit Realms; thought without matter, mind without body.

Imagine an empty sky. No horizon, no clouds, no sun, no moon, stars. This sky is filled with a transparent fog. It stretches everywhere, permeates every space, and is all in that sky. As it is the only thing existing, it is everything and nothing. The only way for there to be something is a reaction in relationship, some way to look upon itself, compare itself, interact with itself. Since this fog is clear, it is Nothing. At the same time it is Everything because there is nothing else but this infinite nothingness, or in our model, this clear fog.

This fog is consciousness and at this point in description it is instinctual thought. It exists but has no awareness of its existence. As a purely hypothetical comparison, it is like our subconscious thought, or spirit. Humans know the subconscious exists but our conscious minds have no awareness its existence. Subconscious, or Spirit, is intuitive thought. It 'lives' in areas of pure thought, since we can control normal consciousness through imagining, analyzing, reasoning and upon decisions, reacting.

Our normal consciousness lies in that area of at least two levels/modes of reality. The first level/mode is thought, the second level/mode is manifestation of those thoughts, being either/both subjective and/or objective existence. Subconscious is the complete blend of these two models. Is is instantaneous action (manifestation) and causation, of and during, the thought process.

That brings us back to our fog that is Nothing and Everything; our aware-less, dormant energy of thought. It instinctively blooms into awareness of itself. It has to. It must, for if the only thing in existence is unaware of itself, it is nothing. And, as we know, we are aware of ourselves. In order to be aware of itself (ourselves) it must be able to reflect upon itself. So it becomes reflections of thought patterns, and through fracticality, it reflects through infinity, all manifesting the same space and all subconsciously knowing that they are One.

And so a step is made in awareness, intelligent and sentient, instantly and continuously manifesting the all pervading Fog of Consciousness.
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That is what the Sepher Bereshith, Cosmogony of Moses, known in the West as "Genesis", is talking about.

" (...) the Spirit of God (Ruach Elohim) hovered above the surface of the waters (...)"
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Interesting.
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Strike me from that cursed path I seem to forever traverse; Bare footed and swollen with pain as the course be. Gently laid with thorn and barb, dusty with dirt. And beneath the this interlacing woven stretch of thorn and barb dusty with dirt, glimpses of soft pedaled roses tease, my heart they have hooked. Powdered fragrances rise and blow sweet silent sounds down this melancholy path accursed. Melodies of hope and tunes of longing. It is the source of the music for which I search.

And I search, bleeding feet wetting the roses, the beauty of the roses lifting my soul. I do not want to make the pedals slick with my blood. There is no other way. The blood soon to dust the roses below in caked crimson. I do not want my blood to stain the roses, but still my feet do bleed, and I have yet to find the source of melody.

As I walk I feel a presence begin manifesting itself. I say itself because as yet I do not know if it is of male or female polarity. But, I do feel it there, and it is interesting me because I have not felt something of this before. As I was taught, the world manifests itself between relationships. And so creating these manifestations of polarities are created. Without polarities knowledge cannot be experienced.

I wonder what form it will take. I still walk down the path. Even I use polarities in thought. I still walk along the path, curiosity congealing to emotion. But, I have the ability to find it, because I can sense it.

Then, she is before me. Not physically, for she is just of the mind. And she blows sweetness down my throat like chewed mint leaves, green with envy. I ask myself why it is of envy, but she hears me, because as I said, she is of the mind. She yearns to taste the experiences of knowledge. She yearns to manifest into physicality.

I find that her thoughts echo mine. She responds again that she is just of the mind. So I whisper, "Of course," and the echoes ripple outward and inward, inverting and reverting. I beg her to manifest so I can partake of her beauty. She laughs, "First you must find me."

I tell her I have found her, that she is here with me always, as I have discovered, deep within the layers of Mind.

"Then why is your desire that I manifest?", and as she slips away the melody returns. I had not noticed that it had been gone.

The ripples dim, the echoes are washed away. My relationship with her recedes into the depths of Mind, my skin still torn by the barbs she left behind, my pain bleeding again on the pedals that make up her memory.
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This fog is consciousness and at this point in description it is instinctual thought. It exists but has no awareness of its existence. As a purely hypothetical comparison, it is like our subconscious thought, or spirit. Humans know the subconscious exists but our conscious minds have no awareness its existence. Subconscious, or Spirit, is intuitive thought. It 'lives' in areas of pure thought, since we can control normal consciousness through imagining, analyzing, reasoning and upon decisions, reacting.

notice the above bold, then see my comment below RISE\|



subconscious thought is not Spirit, Spirit is of another order than Mind, granted they intersect and interpenetrate one another until a separation and purification is achieved, and knowledge of the Spirit is not thought, knowledge of the spirit is Knowledge by and of Identity, intuition is often a mistranslation by the mind from the spiritual depths and heights of the true inner being, or soul-person behind the frontal phenomena of nature and personality, Intuition is greater than thought, though it is often mistranslated by thinking, technically it is a perversion of spiritual truth by the "admixture" of physical, vital, and mental translations of the greater reality of the Spirit
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That's a decent enough explanation. But remember, it is an attempt to use concepts (or thoughts) to explain that which cannot be explained.

Also, it is a mistake to believe that one can control one's thoughts. There is actually nobody controlling anything. It all just happens spontaneously.
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That's a decent enough explanation. But remember, it is an attempt to use concepts (or thoughts) to explain that which cannot be explained.

Also, it is a mistake to believe that one can control one's thoughts. There is actually nobody controlling anything. It all just happens spontaneously.
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My questions are:

Are we all living in separate universes?

When we look at the sheeple, who are content where they are, and we try to change their thought patterns, are we intruding on their universe?

Is it our choice or our obligation to change the thought patterns of others? How does this apply to our children?

How many of us free thinkers will it take to change the outlook of what we see as the universe? It can't be only one, because the world as it is, is a shithole. The PTB have molded and are molding the universe into Their Image. They know absolutely what they are doing and creating.

Is it our destiny to change the world, or just to experience it?
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That's a decent enough explanation. But remember, it is an attempt to use concepts (or thoughts) to explain that which cannot be explained.

Also, it is a mistake to believe that one can control one's thoughts. There is actually nobody controlling anything. It all just happens spontaneously.
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Well, this just shows you don't control your own...
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This fog is consciousness and at this point in description it is instinctual thought. It exists but has no awareness of its existence. As a purely hypothetical comparison, it is like our subconscious thought, or spirit. Humans know the subconscious exists but our conscious minds have no awareness its existence. Subconscious, or Spirit, is intuitive thought. It 'lives' in areas of pure thought, since we can control normal consciousness through imagining, analyzing, reasoning and upon decisions, reacting.

notice the above bold, then see my comment below RISE\|

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subconscious thought is not Spirit, Spirit is of another order than Mind, granted they intersect and interpenetrate one another until a separation and purification is achieved, and knowledge of the Spirit is not thought, knowledge of the spirit is Knowledge by and of Identity, intuition is often a mistranslation by the mind from the spiritual depths and heights of the true inner being, or soul-person behind the frontal phenomena of nature and personality, Intuition is greater than thought, though it is often mistranslated by thinking, technically it is a perversion of spiritual truth by the "admixture" of physical, vital, and mental translations of the greater reality of the Spirit


Sri Aurobindo [link to en.wikipedia.org]
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The practice of Yoga brings us face to face with the extraordinary complexity of our own being, the stimulating but also embarrassing multiplicity of our personality, the rich endless confusion of Nature. To the ordinary man who lives upon his own waking surface, ignorant of the self's depths and vastnesses behind the veil, his psychological existence is fairly simple. A small but clamorous company of desires, some imperative intellectual and aesthetic cravings, some tastes, a few ruling or prominent ideas amid a great current of unconnected or ill-connected and mostly trivial thoughts, a number of more or less imperative vital needs, alternations of physical health and disease, a scattered and inconsequent succession of joys and griefs, frequent minor disturbances and vicissitudes and rarer strong searchings and upheavals of mind or body, and through it all Nature, partly with the aid of his thought and will, partly without or in spite of it, arranging these things in some rough practical fashion, some tolerable disorderly order, -- this is the material of his existence. The average human being even now is in his inward existence as crude and undeveloped as was the bygone primitive man in his outward life. But as soon as we go deep within ourselves, -- and Yoga means a plunge into all the multiple profundities of' the soul, -- we find ourselves subjectively, as man in his growth has found himself objectively, surrounded by a whole complex world which we have to know and to conquer. [link to www.kheper.net]

One of Sri Aurobindo's master works The Synthesis of Yoga I-II from the Sri Aurobindo Ashram in Pondicherry, India.: [link to www.sriaurobindoashram.org]

[link to en.wikipedia.org] The Mother, Mirra Alfassa, Sri Aurobindo's spiritual counterpart.
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My questions are:

Are we all living in separate universes?

When we look at the sheeple, who are content where they are, and we try to change their thought patterns, are we intruding on their universe?

Is it our choice or our obligation to change the thought patterns of others? How does this apply to our children?

How many of us free thinkers will it take to change the outlook of what we see as the universe? It can't be only one, because the world as it is, is a shithole. The PTB have molded and are molding the universe into Their Image. They know absolutely what they are doing and creating.

Is it our destiny to change the world, or just to experience it?
 Quoting: El Chupacabra


All good questions....

These are my opinions.

- We are definitely all in the same universe. It is all connected, ancient peoples knew this more than we know today.

- You are not intruding on their universe...dropping subtle hints to someone is the best way to do it rather than flood their mind. Do not let the opportunity to broaden someone's scope of thinking pass you by.

- It is a choice. But if you feel you can make a positive impact on the world I would personally make it an obligation. Children are like sponges, be what you want your offspring to represent in the world.

- I think change is happening right now...in this thread. The PTB is a control system basically...when people do not participate in the system it will fall. That is all I can really say about that...the control matrix is all about participation. We willingly are a part of it...for the most part. This world definitely has its "shitholeish" attributes to it...but there is also beauty, truth and harmony.

- Both.

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This fog is consciousness and at this point in description it is instinctual thought. It exists but has no awareness of its existence. As a purely hypothetical comparison, it is like our subconscious thought, or spirit. Humans know the subconscious exists but our conscious minds have no awareness its existence. Subconscious, or Spirit, is intuitive thought. It 'lives' in areas of pure thought, since we can control normal consciousness through imagining, analyzing, reasoning and upon decisions, reacting.

notice the above bold, then see my comment below RISE\|

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subconscious thought is not Spirit, Spirit is of another order than Mind, granted they intersect and interpenetrate one another until a separation and purification is achieved, and knowledge of the Spirit is not thought, knowledge of the spirit is Knowledge by and of Identity, intuition is often a mistranslation by the mind from the spiritual depths and heights of the true inner being, or soul-person behind the frontal phenomena of nature and personality, Intuition is greater than thought, though it is often mistranslated by thinking, technically it is a perversion of spiritual truth by the "admixture" of physical, vital, and mental translations of the greater reality of the Spirit


I would agree with most of that. As I said, this was written a long time ago, and I would have used different words and sequences if I were to write it again.

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brilliant stuff!!!.......
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I think at a certain level of awareness we can see and know the subconscious mind and then use that information to clear blocks and obstacles.

agent <-- he is checking the subconscious mind.
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I think at a certain level of awareness we can see and know the subconscious mind and then use that information to clear blocks and obstacles.

agent <-- he is checking the subconscious mind.
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I think at a certain level of awareness we can see and know the subconscious mind and then use that information to clear blocks and obstacles.

agent <-- he is checking the subconscious mind.
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I think the exact same. I can lucid dream as much as I want. So, am I using my conscious mind to see and know and interact with my subconscious when lucid dreaming?

I think that is absolutely correct, though there are many more variables.

I call it my conscious mind playing inside my subconscious. Doing this is inverted compared to normal waking reality. In normal waking reality, it is the subconscious playing within the conscious.
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OP is correct.

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