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Ugh.. Just stay home, where the f do you need to go anyway? This is what's wrong with people.. Everyone wants to go out and drive around in a freaking disaster. Just stay home. Go to bed. Read a fuckin book. Hug your children. Play Monopoly. You can go drive your damn car later.
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Just saw that on the news. No driving after 4 pm? how are you supposed to get back from work?
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Bicycle
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not bad - it is a form of transportation other than walking and therefore is one solution to push back on gooberment restrictions
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Being forced to go to Canada, now that's a punishment.
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Being forced to go to Canada, now that's a punishment.
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Being forced to do anything is the punishment.
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Attica! Attica! Attica!
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It's all part of a plan to bring in the NWO! They want to take your... cars!!

Jesus just stay in it's a BLIZZARD ain't it?
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I love a good conspiracy theory but you guys are nuts! And for the pins tooo! OMG seriously....do any of you even live here? I do do any of you know how may accidents and people have been killed driving in this! Go focus on something else....
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But up to a year in prison? Shouldn't people be allowed to decide for themselves if they want to risk their lives to do something they may just feel the urge to do? Anyone with any sense wouldn't be out driving in icy conditions anyways unless they have the proper transportation to do so. This is just in your face tyrannical police state bullshit.
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It's not just their lives they're risking. Who are they gonna call when they get into an accident and cant move? Oh the people that told them to stay the fuck home? THATS WHY.
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its a police state psyop dry run...a litmus test just to see how stupid everyone is today....every last single fucking one of you fat fucks should hit the streets...everyone.
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Indeed--just like the PSYOP manhunt being run out in Cally. Beta tests/PSYOPS abound.
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Oh yeah ...

Keep watching.
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This is common for bad snow storms in Mass. The Gov declares a state of emergency which means that legally any non-essential personnel on the road are subject to fine or imprisonment. This is nothing new. I used to work for Verizon years ago and my Verizon badge was an exception that allowed me to drive during a state of emergency.
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no its not because of looting. they say its so they can get the roads plowed. cars have been around for over a hundred years now and snow has been around for much longer, they dont make it illegal to drive during snow, this is new
 Quoting: steves0912 1454911


They're trying to keep people from getting killed out on the roads, dumbasses! So the l;plows can do their work and the state troopers can do their jobs and the hospitals will stay empty hopefully. They don't need idiots getting killed and hurt left and right all because you forgot the milk! stay your ass at home! You don't need to do anything but stay at home and make sure you have plenty, stay warm, and safe! Common sense tells you to stock up when you have severe weather coming in like this, but for some reason you folks seem to think it's ok to put your life and everyone else's at risk because you decided to be a fool!
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Wow, a true libtard brain-dead, sheep.

The Governor of Massachusetts is the equivalent of a Nazi monster.

You DO NOT tell AMERICANS that they are not ALLOWED to travel when and where they please.

It would have been fine if the a-hole governor had said "we strongly advise no driving after 4:00 PM ".

That's a LOT different than illegal, and JAIL TIME for exercising your free right to travel.

If the people of Massachusetts don't DEMAND that this prick resign, they deserve the Hell that 4 more years of Obama-Stalin will bring.
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its a police state psyop dry run...a litmus test just to see how stupid everyone is today....every last single fucking one of you fat fucks should hit the streets...everyone.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3499959


Agree with the first part. They have the same ban on some roads in CT too.

Disagree with the second part. It's dangerous out there. If you don't have to drive, it makes no sense to do so.

And so they'll get their way and have a successful dry run of this new legalism. Damn it, they are clever bastards.
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Re: pin...illegal to drive in massachusetts because of snow
no its not because of looting. they say its so they can get the roads plowed. cars have been around for over a hundred years now and snow has been around for much longer, they dont make it illegal to drive during snow, this is new
 Quoting: steves0912 1454911


They're trying to keep people from getting killed out on the roads, dumbasses! So the l;plows can do their work and the state troopers can do their jobs and the hospitals will stay empty hopefully. They don't need idiots getting killed and hurt left and right all because you forgot the milk! stay your ass at home! You don't need to do anything but stay at home and make sure you have plenty, stay warm, and safe! Common sense tells you to stock up when you have severe weather coming in like this, but for some reason you folks seem to think it's ok to put your life and everyone else's at risk because you decided to be a fool!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 991028


Wow, a true libtard brain-dead, sheep.

The Governor of Massachusetts is the equivalent of a Nazi monster.

You DO NOT tell AMERICANS that they are not ALLOWED to travel when and where they please.

It would have been fine if the a-hole governor had said "we strongly advise no driving after 4:00 PM ".

That's a LOT different than illegal, and JAIL TIME for exercising your free right to travel.

If the people of Massachusetts don't DEMAND that this prick resign, they deserve the Hell that 4 more years of Obama-Stalin will bring.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1222180


Dude, I'm 35 and this has been the law in states of emergency as long as I've been alive.

Driving is not a right. It's a privilege as has been settled in the courts numerous times. The government says how you can and cannot drive on its roads.

Like it or not, there is no amendment of driving in the constitution.

Welcome to reality.
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Re: pin...illegal to drive in massachusetts because of snow
its a police state psyop dry run...a litmus test just to see how stupid everyone is today....every last single fucking one of you fat fucks should hit the streets...everyone.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3499959


Agree with the first part. They have the same ban on some roads in CT too.

Disagree with the second part. It's dangerous out there. If you don't have to drive, it makes no sense to do so.

And so they'll get their way and have a successful dry run of this new legalism. Damn it, they are clever bastards.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33389306


And this big storm was apparently engineered (HAARP was running red-hot a day or so ago to bring the two systems together to make the big storm) to provide the conditions for the dry run.

All you can do is sit back and watch in amazement. It's clever how they do things. Some false flags can be debunked, but this is a real storm and there's not much we can do about it but stay home and shovel ourselves out after they complete their operation.
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Re: pin...illegal to drive in massachusetts because of snow
It's all part of a plan to bring in the NWO! They want to take your... cars!!

Jesus just stay in it's a BLIZZARD ain't it?
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Re: pin...illegal to drive in massachusetts because of snow
no its not because of looting. they say its so they can get the roads plowed. cars have been around for over a hundred years now and snow has been around for much longer, they dont make it illegal to drive during snow, this is new
 Quoting: steves0912 1454911


They're trying to keep people from getting killed out on the roads, dumbasses! So the l;plows can do their work and the state troopers can do their jobs and the hospitals will stay empty hopefully. They don't need idiots getting killed and hurt left and right all because you forgot the milk! stay your ass at home! You don't need to do anything but stay at home and make sure you have plenty, stay warm, and safe! Common sense tells you to stock up when you have severe weather coming in like this, but for some reason you folks seem to think it's ok to put your life and everyone else's at risk because you decided to be a fool!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 991028


Wow, a true libtard brain-dead, sheep.

The Governor of Massachusetts is the equivalent of a Nazi monster.

You DO NOT tell AMERICANS that they are not ALLOWED to travel when and where they please.

It would have been fine if the a-hole governor had said "we strongly advise no driving after 4:00 PM ".

That's a LOT different than illegal, and JAIL TIME for exercising your free right to travel.

If the people of Massachusetts don't DEMAND that this prick resign, they deserve the Hell that 4 more years of Obama-Stalin will bring.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1222180


Dude, I'm 35 and this has been the law in states of emergency as long as I've been alive.

Driving is not a right. It's a privilege as has been settled in the courts numerous times. The government says how you can and cannot drive on its roads.

Like it or not, there is no amendment of driving in the constitution.

Welcome to reality.
 Quoting: Floobarb the Argnorf


I don't remember that during any part of Sandy. Or any of the other big storms of the past few years. Or before that either. Are you sure, it sounds new to me. I was thinking "this is a little different" when it was announced on the news.
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Re: pin...illegal to drive in massachusetts because of snow
its a police state psyop dry run...a litmus test just to see how stupid everyone is today....every last single fucking one of you fat fucks should hit the streets...everyone.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3499959


Agree with the first part. They have the same ban on some roads in CT too.

Disagree with the second part. It's dangerous out there. If you don't have to drive, it makes no sense to do so.

And so they'll get their way and have a successful dry run of this new legalism. Damn it, they are clever bastards.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33389306


And this big storm was apparently engineered (HAARP was running red-hot a day or so ago to bring the two systems together to make the big storm) to provide the conditions for the dry run.

All you can do is sit back and watch in amazement. It's clever how they do things. Some false flags can be debunked, but this is a real storm and there's not much we can do about it but stay home and shovel ourselves out after they complete their operation.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33389306

[link to www.haarpstatus.com]
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telling it straight

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Priming us for marial law....
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Re: pin...illegal to drive in massachusetts because of snow
its a police state psyop dry run...a litmus test just to see how stupid everyone is today....every last single fucking one of you fat fucks should hit the streets...everyone.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3499959


Agree with the first part. They have the same ban on some roads in CT too.

Disagree with the second part. It's dangerous out there. If you don't have to drive, it makes no sense to do so.

And so they'll get their way and have a successful dry run of this new legalism. Damn it, they are clever bastards.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33389306


And this big storm was apparently engineered (HAARP was running red-hot a day or so ago to bring the two systems together to make the big storm) to provide the conditions for the dry run.

All you can do is sit back and watch in amazement. It's clever how they do things. Some false flags can be debunked, but this is a real storm and there's not much we can do about it but stay home and shovel ourselves out after they complete their operation.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33389306

[link to www.haarpstatus.com]
 Quoting: UseLessRepEATER

Yeah that looks like the same map. It's dated yesterday. Hope they're not still pumping it!
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They're trying to keep people from getting killed out on the roads, dumbasses! So the l;plows can do their work and the state troopers can do their jobs and the hospitals will stay empty hopefully. They don't need idiots getting killed and hurt left and right all because you forgot the milk! stay your ass at home! You don't need to do anything but stay at home and make sure you have plenty, stay warm, and safe! Common sense tells you to stock up when you have severe weather coming in like this, but for some reason you folks seem to think it's ok to put your life and everyone else's at risk because you decided to be a fool!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 991028


Wow, a true libtard brain-dead, sheep.

The Governor of Massachusetts is the equivalent of a Nazi monster.

You DO NOT tell AMERICANS that they are not ALLOWED to travel when and where they please.

It would have been fine if the a-hole governor had said "we strongly advise no driving after 4:00 PM ".

That's a LOT different than illegal, and JAIL TIME for exercising your free right to travel.

If the people of Massachusetts don't DEMAND that this prick resign, they deserve the Hell that 4 more years of Obama-Stalin will bring.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1222180


Dude, I'm 35 and this has been the law in states of emergency as long as I've been alive.

Driving is not a right. It's a privilege as has been settled in the courts numerous times. The government says how you can and cannot drive on its roads.

Like it or not, there is no amendment of driving in the constitution.

Welcome to reality.
 Quoting: Floobarb the Argnorf


I don't remember that during any part of Sandy. Or any of the other big storms of the past few years. Or before that either. Are you sure, it sounds new to me. I was thinking "this is a little different" when it was announced on the news.
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It is whenever a "State of Emergency" is declared by the Governor.
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Re: pin...illegal to drive in massachusetts because of snow
no its not because of looting. they say its so they can get the roads plowed. cars have been around for over a hundred years now and snow has been around for much longer, they dont make it illegal to drive during snow, this is new
 Quoting: steves0912 1454911


They're trying to keep people from getting killed out on the roads, dumbasses! So the l;plows can do their work and the state troopers can do their jobs and the hospitals will stay empty hopefully. They don't need idiots getting killed and hurt left and right all because you forgot the milk! stay your ass at home! You don't need to do anything but stay at home and make sure you have plenty, stay warm, and safe! Common sense tells you to stock up when you have severe weather coming in like this, but for some reason you folks seem to think it's ok to put your life and everyone else's at risk because you decided to be a fool!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 991028


Wow, a true libtard brain-dead, sheep.

The Governor of Massachusetts is the equivalent of a Nazi monster.

You DO NOT tell AMERICANS that they are not ALLOWED to travel when and where they please.

It would have been fine if the a-hole governor had said "we strongly advise no driving after 4:00 PM ".

That's a LOT different than illegal, and JAIL TIME for exercising your free right to travel.

If the people of Massachusetts don't DEMAND that this prick resign, they deserve the Hell that 4 more years of Obama-Stalin will bring.
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bump
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Just saw that on the news. No driving after 4 pm? how are you supposed to get back from work?
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Bicycle
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not bad - it is a form of transportation other than walking and therefore is one solution to push back on gooberment restrictions
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You are officially braindead. Try cycling in these conditions. You won't be doing it very long and you won't get very far.
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Wow, a true libtard brain-dead, sheep.

The Governor of Massachusetts is the equivalent of a Nazi monster.

You DO NOT tell AMERICANS that they are not ALLOWED to travel when and where they please.

It would have been fine if the a-hole governor had said "we strongly advise no driving after 4:00 PM ".

That's a LOT different than illegal, and JAIL TIME for exercising your free right to travel.

If the people of Massachusetts don't DEMAND that this prick resign, they deserve the Hell that 4 more years of Obama-Stalin will bring.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1222180


Dude, I'm 35 and this has been the law in states of emergency as long as I've been alive.

Driving is not a right. It's a privilege as has been settled in the courts numerous times. The government says how you can and cannot drive on its roads.

Like it or not, there is no amendment of driving in the constitution.

Welcome to reality.
 Quoting: Floobarb the Argnorf


I don't remember that during any part of Sandy. Or any of the other big storms of the past few years. Or before that either. Are you sure, it sounds new to me. I was thinking "this is a little different" when it was announced on the news.
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It is whenever a "State of Emergency" is declared by the Governor.
 Quoting: Floobarb the Argnorf


Now we know you're wrong. There are many states of emergency that don't impact driving at all. The whole area was under a state of emergency after Sandy passed, and driving was certainly allowed and widely done.

Nope, you're making it up as you go along. Sorry, should I use the "shill" word?
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Re: pin...illegal to drive in massachusetts because of snow
no its not because of looting. they say its so they can get the roads plowed. cars have been around for over a hundred years now and snow has been around for much longer, they dont make it illegal to drive during snow, this is new
 Quoting: steves0912 1454911


They're trying to keep people from getting killed out on the roads, dumbasses! So the l;plows can do their work and the state troopers can do their jobs and the hospitals will stay empty hopefully. They don't need idiots getting killed and hurt left and right all because you forgot the milk! stay your ass at home! You don't need to do anything but stay at home and make sure you have plenty, stay warm, and safe! Common sense tells you to stock up when you have severe weather coming in like this, but for some reason you folks seem to think it's ok to put your life and everyone else's at risk because you decided to be a fool!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 991028


Wow, a true libtard brain-dead, sheep.

The Governor of Massachusetts is the equivalent of a Nazi monster.

You DO NOT tell AMERICANS that they are not ALLOWED to travel when and where they please.

It would have been fine if the a-hole governor had said "we strongly advise no driving after 4:00 PM ".

That's a LOT different than illegal, and JAIL TIME for exercising your free right to travel.

If the people of Massachusetts don't DEMAND that this prick resign, they deserve the Hell that 4 more years of Obama-Stalin will bring.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1222180


Dude, I'm 35 and this has been the law in states of emergency as long as I've been alive.

Driving is not a right. It's a privilege as has been settled in the courts numerous times. The government says how you can and cannot drive on its roads.

Like it or not, there is no amendment of driving in the constitution.

Welcome to reality.
 Quoting: Floobarb the Argnorf


No one cares how old you are, just how stupid you are.

The roads belong to we, the people, not the government. The entire reason we HAVE a federal government is to SERVE the people, not to dictate to us. Secondly, a snowstorm is NOT an emergency. It's snow. This is not a full-scale nuclear attack.

YOU are the kind of person who will do ANYTHING you are told to do.

If YOU think the government has the right to tell you that you cannot drive, under penalty of imprisonment, and you are OK with that, you are UNWORTHY to be an American citizen, and should probably move to China, or Canada.
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They're trying to keep people from getting killed out on the roads, dumbasses! So the l;plows can do their work and the state troopers can do their jobs and the hospitals will stay empty hopefully. They don't need idiots getting killed and hurt left and right all because you forgot the milk! stay your ass at home! You don't need to do anything but stay at home and make sure you have plenty, stay warm, and safe! Common sense tells you to stock up when you have severe weather coming in like this, but for some reason you folks seem to think it's ok to put your life and everyone else's at risk because you decided to be a fool!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 991028


Wow, a true libtard brain-dead, sheep.

The Governor of Massachusetts is the equivalent of a Nazi monster.

You DO NOT tell AMERICANS that they are not ALLOWED to travel when and where they please.

It would have been fine if the a-hole governor had said "we strongly advise no driving after 4:00 PM ".

That's a LOT different than illegal, and JAIL TIME for exercising your free right to travel.

If the people of Massachusetts don't DEMAND that this prick resign, they deserve the Hell that 4 more years of Obama-Stalin will bring.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1222180


Dude, I'm 35 and this has been the law in states of emergency as long as I've been alive.

Driving is not a right. It's a privilege as has been settled in the courts numerous times. The government says how you can and cannot drive on its roads.

Like it or not, there is no amendment of driving in the constitution.

Welcome to reality.
 Quoting: Floobarb the Argnorf


No one cares how old you are, just how stupid you are.

The roads belong to we, the people, not the government. The entire reason we HAVE a federal government is to SERVE the people, not to dictate to us. Secondly, a snowstorm is NOT an emergency. It's snow. This is not a full-scale nuclear attack.

YOU are the kind of person who will do ANYTHING you are told to do.

If YOU think the government has the right to tell you that you cannot drive, under penalty of imprisonment, and you are OK with that, you are UNWORTHY to be an American citizen, and should probably move to China, or Canada.
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Re: pin...illegal to drive in massachusetts because of snow
How come there are no snowmobiles down there? Best way to get around,i have 2.
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Notice how they're doing this during a bad snow storm, when most people in their right minds would be hunkered down at home anyway????
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Re: pin...illegal to drive in massachusetts because of snow
its a police state psyop dry run...a litmus test just to see how stupid everyone is today....every last single fucking one of you fat fucks should hit the streets...everyone.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3499959


Agree with the first part. They have the same ban on some roads in CT too.

Disagree with the second part. It's dangerous out there. If you don't have to drive, it makes no sense to do so.

And so they'll get their way and have a successful dry run of this new legalism. Damn it, they are clever bastards.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33389306


And this big storm was apparently engineered (HAARP was running red-hot a day or so ago to bring the two systems together to make the big storm) to provide the conditions for the dry run.

All you can do is sit back and watch in amazement. It's clever how they do things. Some false flags can be debunked, but this is a real storm and there's not much we can do about it but stay home and shovel ourselves out after they complete their operation.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33389306


So sick of people talking about harp..

1. Proven by the Creator of the website Haarp Status is a website made to generate money through advertising. He photoshops images and puts them up.

2. Sick of people talking about how the government uses harp but would just show the american public without any type of hiding it by some shitty cheap website.


Besides that yea I think its bs to ban people from doing anything. Is it retarded to go out in a massive storm? Yea but I want to have the choice to go if I want to.
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Re: pin...illegal to drive in massachusetts because of snow
up to one year in prison for driving in ma tonight. ban starts in 10 minutes. i can still my lawn. this is really ridiculous.

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Illegal to "Ban" Driving. Especially the governor. This is a sheep test. It is NOT the governors job to declare this. It is district by district and decided by the PEOPLE of the district.

Tell the governor and the judge to find a new sheep state...

and dont be sheep

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