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The TREE of LIFE ... what do you think it is?

 
Axo Azeratel

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Seriously, OP, how many bullshit posts by gnostics, freemasons and other assorted disinfo agents am I going to have to wade through to get the answer?
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What is so hard to understand about Gnosticism?

They really tried to roast it up all nice and simple for ya...

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I'm a jesus believe g gnostic Kabbalist what's wrong with that.
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I'm a jesus believe g gnostic Kabbalist what's wrong with that.
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Do you believe Jesus?

Have you done this?




or this?


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Yes I believ Jesus died and was raised from the dead.
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Trees in the bible and other spiritual paths are a metaphor for a process in your own mind

Gnostic Jesus and Christian Jesus were the two main kinds of worship in the centuries after Jesus, Gnostic was widely followed. Constantine and his cronies, aka TPTB of that day, took over the Christian Jesus and destroyed the Gnostic one. In this way they centralized their power over the people, by taking over the religion and making it into their own, top down pyramid version, aka military style for example.

If Obama or whatever decided to rewrite the bible to suit their own new version, wouldn't you dismiss their version as a political ploy? What if Obama decided to destroy all previous versions of the Bible in order to make their version the only one? Why should you accept a version where this exact scenario took place, in the 4th century?

That is historical information freely available to all. Learn the real meaning of the teachings of Jesus, don't surrender your soul to Constantine's devilish version!
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Trees in the bible and other spiritual paths are a metaphor for a process in your own mind

Gnostic Jesus and Christian Jesus were the two main kinds of worship in the centuries after Jesus, Gnostic was widely followed. Constantine and his cronies, aka TPTB of that day, took over the Christian Jesus and destroyed the Gnostic one. In this way they centralized their power over the people, by taking over the religion and making it into their own, top down pyramid version, aka military style for example.

If Obama or whatever decided to rewrite the bible to suit their own new version, wouldn't you dismiss their version as a political ploy? What if Obama decided to destroy all previous versions of the Bible in order to make their version the only one? Why should you accept a version where this exact scenario took place, in the 4th century?

That is historical information freely available to all. Learn the real meaning of the teachings of Jesus, don't surrender your soul to Constantine's devilish version!
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[link to www.gematrix.org]

What makes you think Jesus got out of the whole "Soul Wedding" ploy?

...

hmm
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Trees in the bible and other spiritual paths are a metaphor for a process in your own mind

Gnostic Jesus and Christian Jesus were the two main kinds of worship in the centuries after Jesus, Gnostic was widely followed. Constantine and his cronies, aka TPTB of that day, took over the Christian Jesus and destroyed the Gnostic one. In this way they centralized their power over the people, by taking over the religion and making it into their own, top down pyramid version, aka military style for example.

If Obama or whatever decided to rewrite the bible to suit their own new version, wouldn't you dismiss their version as a political ploy? What if Obama decided to destroy all previous versions of the Bible in order to make their version the only one? Why should you accept a version where this exact scenario took place, in the 4th century?

That is historical information freely available to all. Learn the real meaning of the teachings of Jesus, don't surrender your soul to Constantine's devilish version!
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[link to www.gematrix.org]

What makes you think Jesus got out of the whole "Soul Wedding" ploy?

...

hmm
 Quoting: Axo Azeratel


Jesus was god incarnate. The Adam kadmon, the original archetype manifest in gods love.
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Trees in the bible and other spiritual paths are a metaphor for a process in your own mind

Gnostic Jesus and Christian Jesus were the two main kinds of worship in the centuries after Jesus, Gnostic was widely followed. Constantine and his cronies, aka TPTB of that day, took over the Christian Jesus and destroyed the Gnostic one. In this way they centralized their power over the people, by taking over the religion and making it into their own, top down pyramid version, aka military style for example.

If Obama or whatever decided to rewrite the bible to suit their own new version, wouldn't you dismiss their version as a political ploy? What if Obama decided to destroy all previous versions of the Bible in order to make their version the only one? Why should you accept a version where this exact scenario took place, in the 4th century?

That is historical information freely available to all. Learn the real meaning of the teachings of Jesus, don't surrender your soul to Constantine's devilish version!
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[link to www.gematrix.org]

What makes you think Jesus got out of the whole "Soul Wedding" ploy?

...

hmm
 Quoting: Axo Azeratel


Jesus was god incarnate. The Adam kadmon, the original archetype manifest in gods love.
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hmm
- A smile is stronger than the fists -

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Hi Pi!
- A smile is stronger than the fists -

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Trees in the bible and other spiritual paths are a metaphor for a process in your own mind

Gnostic Jesus and Christian Jesus were the two main kinds of worship in the centuries after Jesus, Gnostic was widely followed. Constantine and his cronies, aka TPTB of that day, took over the Christian Jesus and destroyed the Gnostic one. In this way they centralized their power over the people, by taking over the religion and making it into their own, top down pyramid version, aka military style for example.

If Obama or whatever decided to rewrite the bible to suit their own new version, wouldn't you dismiss their version as a political ploy? What if Obama decided to destroy all previous versions of the Bible in order to make their version the only one? Why should you accept a version where this exact scenario took place, in the 4th century?

That is historical information freely available to all. Learn the real meaning of the teachings of Jesus, don't surrender your soul to Constantine's devilish version!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 904314


[link to www.gematrix.org]

What makes you think Jesus got out of the whole "Soul Wedding" ploy?

...

hmm
 Quoting: Axo Azeratel


Jesus was god incarnate. The Adam kadmon, the original archetype manifest in gods love.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24633450


hmm
 Quoting: PPP


Understanding the true Kabbalah not the hermetic or Hasidic versions, but the plain and simple Kabbalah truly unfolds the meaning of yeshua and the gospels and the epistles in a new light...when Paul was going on and on about the body of Christ, the arms, the legs, etc in Corinthians...that was Kabbalah, Jesus as the second Adam,p Kabbalah, the third heaven, Kabbalah, the 7 spirits of god, Kabbalah, god is spirit, is love and light, spoken buy John, that is Kabbalah.
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Hi Pi!
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hi
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[link to www.gematrix.org]

What makes you think Jesus got out of the whole "Soul Wedding" ploy?

...

hmm
 Quoting: Axo Azeratel


Jesus was god incarnate. The Adam kadmon, the original archetype manifest in gods love.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24633450


hmm
 Quoting: PPP


Understanding the true Kabbalah not the hermetic or Hasidic versions, but the plain and simple Kabbalah truly unfolds the meaning of yeshua and the gospels and the epistles in a new light...when Paul was going on and on about the body of Christ, the arms, the legs, etc in Corinthians...that was Kabbalah, Jesus as the second Adam,p Kabbalah, the third heaven, Kabbalah, the 7 spirits of god, Kabbalah, god is spirit, is love and light, spoken buy John, that is Kabbalah.
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Aaarggghhh... enough of this...

[link to www.gematrix.org]

See? The son of the most high. Not THE most high.
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[link to www.gematrix.org]

What makes you think Jesus got out of the whole "Soul Wedding" ploy?

...

hmm
 Quoting: Axo Azeratel


Jesus was god incarnate. The Adam kadmon, the original archetype manifest in gods love.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24633450


hmm
 Quoting: PPP


Understanding the true Kabbalah not the hermetic or Hasidic versions, but the plain and simple Kabbalah truly unfolds the meaning of yeshua and the gospels and the epistles in a new light...when Paul was going on and on about the body of Christ, the arms, the legs, etc in Corinthians...that was Kabbalah, Jesus as the second Adam,p Kabbalah, the third heaven, Kabbalah, the 7 spirits of god, Kabbalah, god is spirit, is love and light, spoken buy John, that is Kabbalah.
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The only version of kaballah I know is my own hf
But I see logic in what you say
- A smile is stronger than the fists -

:PPP
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I gots to roll with the Kabbalah. Learn self, learn god. Learn the middle path.
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That's a good way to go...
and a good place to be in the ever NOW

The mathematical knowledge about the nature of reality is encoded in the blueprint called the Tree of Life.

[...]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13514387


Tree of life is the fabric pattern of every creations;
it would also be the cosmic egg/seed that recreate itself
(As every sephirah is a whole tree with it's own sephiroth)
But it's much more harder to explain the parts of it

I only have limited perspectives about
And as I am mostly autodidact
I have an unofficial (partial) version of it
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Is there a 'wrong' answer? Surely it can have different meaning to us all.
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What is the origin of this "democratization" of the Truth?

The consciousness of the "self" and the 'thinker', which, because they have created themselves, consider themselves as 'God'. And, since every "self" and every 'thinker' is equal to every other "self" and 'thinker' every interpretation is equal. There is no interpretation that is wrong; and, thus, no interpretation that is right or the Truth, either.

Problem is that the origin of the term "Tree of Life" is not the consciousness of the "self" or the 'thinker'. It originates in the consciousness Created by God and refers to a very specific Vision.

Once that Truth is acknowledged, any number of interpretations or applications of that symbol can be performed; each to the level of the individual's understanding at the time.

But, if you were to talk to the person who first wrote the term "Tree of Life", it would have a very, very specific meaning. Just as does the term Vision of the "Son of man", "sidrah tree" and "Vision of Knowledge".

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[link to www.gematrix.org]

What makes you think Jesus got out of the whole "Soul Wedding" ploy?

...

hmm
 Quoting: Axo Azeratel


Jesus was god incarnate. The Adam kadmon, the original archetype manifest in gods love.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24633450


hmm
 Quoting: PPP


Understanding the true Kabbalah not the hermetic or Hasidic versions, but the plain and simple Kabbalah truly unfolds the meaning of yeshua and the gospels and the epistles in a new light...when Paul was going on and on about the body of Christ, the arms, the legs, etc in Corinthians...that was Kabbalah, Jesus as the second Adam,p Kabbalah, the third heaven, Kabbalah, the 7 spirits of god, Kabbalah, god is spirit, is love and light, spoken buy John, that is Kabbalah.
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Unfortunately, the original Revelations--of the Vision of the "Son of man" and the Revelation of the "resurrection"-- have been just as much corrupted by the Kabbalists as they have been by the Orthodox rabbis.

Michael
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Jesus was god incarnate. The Adam kadmon, the original archetype manifest in gods love.
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hmm
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Understanding the true Kabbalah not the hermetic or Hasidic versions, but the plain and simple Kabbalah truly unfolds the meaning of yeshua and the gospels and the epistles in a new light...when Paul was going on and on about the body of Christ, the arms, the legs, etc in Corinthians...that was Kabbalah, Jesus as the second Adam,p Kabbalah, the third heaven, Kabbalah, the 7 spirits of god, Kabbalah, god is spirit, is love and light, spoken buy John, that is Kabbalah.
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Unfortunately, the original Revelations--of the Vision of the "Son of man" and the Revelation of the "resurrection"-- have been just as much corrupted by the Kabbalists as they have been by the Orthodox rabbis.

Michael
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Gematria is the final word of GoD.

Do you deny this? Yes, or no?
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I'm a jesus believe g gnostic Kabbalist what's wrong with that.
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Do you believe Jesus?
 Quoting: IAMIAM


Do you believe the words of Jesus or the Teaching of Jesus or do you worship Jesus as 'God', as demanded by the idolator and metaphysical philosopher Paul?

You cannot worship Jesus as 'God' and believe his Teaching.

Jesus taught the Doctrine of "resurrection" as a Doctrine of 'Rebirth', believing in the God of the living; the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.

Those who believe in the doctrine of the physical raising of a dead body from the grave believe, instead, in the god of the dead.

You cannot believe in the God of the living and the 'god of the dead' (Chapter 20:38 of the Gospel of Luke) at the same time.

Michael
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You cannot believe in the God of the living and the 'god of the dead' (Chapter 20:38 of the Gospel of Luke) at the same time.

Michael
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...

Can too.
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hmm
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Understanding the true Kabbalah not the hermetic or Hasidic versions, but the plain and simple Kabbalah truly unfolds the meaning of yeshua and the gospels and the epistles in a new light...when Paul was going on and on about the body of Christ, the arms, the legs, etc in Corinthians...that was Kabbalah, Jesus as the second Adam,p Kabbalah, the third heaven, Kabbalah, the 7 spirits of god, Kabbalah, god is spirit, is love and light, spoken buy John, that is Kabbalah.
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Unfortunately, the original Revelations--of the Vision of the "Son of man" and the Revelation of the "resurrection"-- have been just as much corrupted by the Kabbalists as they have been by the Orthodox rabbis.

Michael
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Gematria is the final word of GoD.

Do you deny this? Yes, or no?
 Quoting: Axo Azeratel


And nitwit Muslims say the Quran is the final Revelation of Allah, as well.

All nonsense.

There is no final Revelation.

From the little that I have read about Gematria, it provides additional meanings, deeper meanings, that otherwise would not be known.

But so does Reverse Speech Analysis.

My wife has done a Reverse Speech Analysis on the reply of Jesus to the Sadducees in which there is a cryptic reference to the "Tree of Life".

Is Reverse Speech Analysis a final Revelation?

Of course not.

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You cannot believe in the God of the living and the 'god of the dead' (Chapter 20:38 of the Gospel of Luke) at the same time.

Michael
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...

Can too.
 Quoting: Axo Azeratel


In the Revelation of John, the "Son of man" says: "Be either for me or against me. But, if you be lukewarm, I will vomit you out of my mouth."

This applies to those who believe in Jesus while denying that he taught the Doctrine of "resurrection" as a Doctrine of 'Rebirth'.

In other words, every Christian.

Michael
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Understanding the true Kabbalah not the hermetic or Hasidic versions, but the plain and simple Kabbalah truly unfolds the meaning of yeshua and the gospels and the epistles in a new light...when Paul was going on and on about the body of Christ, the arms, the legs, etc in Corinthians...that was Kabbalah, Jesus as the second Adam,p Kabbalah, the third heaven, Kabbalah, the 7 spirits of god, Kabbalah, god is spirit, is love and light, spoken buy John, that is Kabbalah.
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Unfortunately, the original Revelations--of the Vision of the "Son of man" and the Revelation of the "resurrection"-- have been just as much corrupted by the Kabbalists as they have been by the Orthodox rabbis.

Michael
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Gematria is the final word of GoD.

Do you deny this? Yes, or no?
 Quoting: Axo Azeratel


And nitwit Muslims say the Quran is the final Revelation of Allah, as well.

All nonsense.

There is no final Revelation.

From the little that I have read about Gematria, it provides additional meanings, deeper meanings, that otherwise would not be known.

But so does Reverse Speech Analysis.

My wife has done a Reverse Speech Analysis on the reply of Jesus to the Sadducees in which there is a cryptic reference to the "Tree of Life".

Is Reverse Speech Analysis a final Revelation?

Of course not.

Michael
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[link to www.gematrix.org]

Read that backwards, tell me if you get anything.
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bump

Still waiting for Micheal to tell us what the Tree of Life is and the Two Witnesses.

popcorn
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Still waiting for you to.

I have to get up early, can we get on with it already?
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He didn't even know of the existence of the term...
 Quoting: Axo Azeratel


Sigh.

I am well aware of the existence of the term.

I just have not addressed that issue.

It is relevant to the "Tree of Life"; but I just have not discussed it.

Michael
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Unfortunately, the original Revelations--of the Vision of the "Son of man" and the Revelation of the "resurrection"-- have been just as much corrupted by the Kabbalists as they have been by the Orthodox rabbis.

Michael
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Gematria is the final word of GoD.

Do you deny this? Yes, or no?
 Quoting: Axo Azeratel


And nitwit Muslims say the Quran is the final Revelation of Allah, as well.

All nonsense.

There is no final Revelation.

From the little that I have read about Gematria, it provides additional meanings, deeper meanings, that otherwise would not be known.

But so does Reverse Speech Analysis.

My wife has done a Reverse Speech Analysis on the reply of Jesus to the Sadducees in which there is a cryptic reference to the "Tree of Life".

Is Reverse Speech Analysis a final Revelation?

Of course not.

Michael
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[link to www.gematrix.org]

Read that backwards, tell me if you get anything.
 Quoting: Axo Azeratel


You don't have a clue as to what Reverse Speech Analysis is.

It cannot be done in writing.

A recording is made; then that recording is played backwards.

The words and phrases that are heard consist of information coming backwards in time from the future.

Do you understand what that means?

Information is coming backwards in time.

It is also important to understand that the "Tree of Life" is received by means of a time-reversal of consciousness.

See the Sayings of Jesus in the Gospel of Thomas.

Michael
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You cannot believe in the God of the living and the 'god of the dead' (Chapter 20:38 of the Gospel of Luke) at the same time.

Michael
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...

Can too.
 Quoting: Axo Azeratel


In the Revelation of John, the "Son of man" says: "Be either for me or against me. But, if you be lukewarm, I will vomit you out of my mouth."

This applies to those who believe in Jesus while denying that he taught the Doctrine of "resurrection" as a Doctrine of 'Rebirth'.

In other words, every Christian.

Michael
 Quoting: 4Q529


[link to www.gematrix.org]

Careful now...
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Still waiting for Micheal to tell us what the Tree of Life is and the Two Witnesses.

popcorn
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Still waiting for you to.

I have to get up early, can we get on with it already?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10783814


He didn't even know of the existence of the term...
 Quoting: Axo Azeratel


Sigh.

I am well aware of the existence of the term.

I just have not addressed that issue.

It is relevant to the "Tree of Life"; but I just have not discussed it.

Michael
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You were asked to.
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Anyone care to explain what they think it is?
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It's the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil. Calling it the Tree of Life is occult/satanic propaganda. It's really the Tree of Death.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17926316


Apparently never read Genesis.

Michael
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[link to www.gematrix.org]

Read that backwards, tell me if you get anything.
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You don't have a clue as to what Reverse Speech Analysis is.

 Quoting: 4Q529


[link to www.gematrix.org]
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I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life. - Jesus
 Quoting: IAMIAM


What is the meaning of the word "Truth" in that context?

What Jesus is referring to here are the three phases in the War of the Sons of Light.

The phonetic tone of "the Way"--echoing the "Way of Thy heart" in the Thanksgiving Hymns of the Dead Sea Scrolls (written by Jesus)--signifies the Second Phase of the War of the Sons of Light.

The phonetic tone of "the Life"--echoing both the phonetic tone of and the term "Tree of Life"--signifies the Third Phase of the War of the Sons of Light.

Whereas the phonetic tone of "the Truth" means something completely different than the word "Truth"; but, instead, refers to the First Phase of the War of the Sons of Light.

That is, Truth is conveyed by the Second and the Third Phases of the War of the Sons of Light.

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Still waiting for you to.

I have to get up early, can we get on with it already?
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He didn't even know of the existence of the term...
 Quoting: Axo Azeratel


Sigh.

I am well aware of the existence of the term.

I just have not addressed that issue.

It is relevant to the "Tree of Life"; but I just have not discussed it.

Michael
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You were asked to.
 Quoting: Axo Azeratel


I ignored the question, preferring to focus instead on the term "Tree of Life".

No sense in trying to teach calculus to someone who does not understand algebra.

Michael

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