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The TREE of LIFE ... what do you think it is?

 
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No sense in trying to teach calculus to someone who does not understand algebra.

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...when Paul was going on and on about the body of Christ, the arms, the legs, etc in Corinthians...that was Kabbalah, Jesus as the second Adam,p Kabbalah, the third heaven, Kabbalah, the 7 spirits of god, Kabbalah, god is spirit, is love and light, spoken buy John, that is Kabbalah.
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Spoken BUY John?

Certainly, an incredible Freudian slip.

John was no "Kabbalist".

He did not BUY the Teaching in the Revelation of John.

He received the Vision of the "Son of man".

The teaching that you repeat is teaching that someone has BOUGHT and PAID for.

The original Revelation is the Vision of the "Son of man"; which, however, is not Revealed except through the reversal of time and the Revelation of the "resurrection"; which consists of a separate, intersecting, time-reversal. In other words, those who claim to have a Knowledge of the "Tree of Life", but who have no Memory of the Creation (and 'the Fall'), and no memories of previous lives are, quite simply, lying.

Kabbalists have sold different interpretations of that Knowledge...

Something that Jesus specifically condemns.

The Teaching is to be given for free.

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...when Paul was going on and on about the body of Christ, the arms, the legs, etc in Corinthians...that was Kabbalah, Jesus as the second Adam,p Kabbalah, the third heaven, Kabbalah, the 7 spirits of god, Kabbalah, god is spirit, is love and light, spoken buy John, that is Kabbalah.
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Spoken BUY John?

Certainly, an incredible Freudian slip.

John was no "Kabbalist".

He did not BUY the Teaching in the Revelation of John.

He received the Vision of the "Son of man".

The teaching that you repeat is teaching that someone has BOUGHT and PAID for.

The original Revelation is the Vision of the "Son of man"; which, however, is not Revealed except through the reversal of time and the Revelation of the "resurrection"; which consists of a separate, intersecting, time-reversal. In other words, those who claim to have a Knowledge of the "Tree of Life", but who have no Memory of the Creation (and 'the Fall'), and no memories of previous lives are, quite simply, lying.

Kabbalists have sold different interpretations of that Knowledge...

Something that Jesus specifically condemns.

The Teaching is to be given for free.

Michael
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This I can certainly agree with.

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Equivalence of the Tree of Life, the five Platonic solids, the 64 hexagrams of the I Ching, the Sri Yantra, the disdyakis triacontahedron and other sacred geometries:
[link to smphillips.8m.com]
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Equivalence of the Tree of Life, the five Platonic solids, the 64 hexagrams of the I Ching, the Sri Yantra, the disdyakis triacontahedron and other sacred geometries:
[link to smphillips.8m.com]
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All quite interesting.

Cymatics, however, is also relevant here.

That is, the creation of geometrical structures on the basis of acoustic tones.

The relevance to the "Tree of Life"/Vision of the "Son of man"/"Night Journey" of Mohammed is that there are ten principal phonetic tones; Long and short A, I, E, O and U; not, however, in the correct temporal sequence. (The "ten virgins" in one of the Canonical Gospels; and the "five trees" in the Gospel of Thomas.)

These ten phonetic tones are also called the "Ten Sephirot" of the "Tree of Life" and their distribution across the Seven Churches or "seven chakras" approximates the geometry of the "Tree of Life" as described by the Kabbalists.

With regards to the Creation of the physical reality, then, it was these phonetic tones which occurred PRIOR to "Word"; setting the fundamental structures of reality.

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Tree of life, tree of knowledge.

I believe that it is a metaphor for the brain and the flesh.

Adam and Eve ate from the tree of knowledge (they became flesh eaters or cannibalistic) and fell from grace ot whatever you want to call it.

Was there even a tree of life or is it just indoctrinated bullshit?

But if you look at blood vessels they look like trees.
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Equivalence of the Tree of Life, the five Platonic solids, the 64 hexagrams of the I Ching, the Sri Yantra, the disdyakis triacontahedron and other sacred geometries:
[link to smphillips.8m.com]
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All quite interesting.

Cymatics, however, is also relevant here.

That is, the creation of geometrical structures on the basis of acoustic tones.

The relevance to the "Tree of Life"/Vision of the "Son of man"/"Night Journey" of Mohammed is that there are ten principal phonetic tones; Long and short A, I, E, O and U; not, however, in the correct temporal sequence. (The "ten virgins" in one of the Canonical Gospels; and the "five trees" in the Gospel of Thomas.)

These ten phonetic tones are also called the "Ten Sephirot" of the "Tree of Life" and their distribution across the Seven Churches or "seven chakras" approximates the geometry of the "Tree of Life" as described by the Kabbalists.

With regards to the Creation of the physical reality, then, it was these phonetic tones which occurred PRIOR to "Word"; setting the fundamental structures of reality.

Michael
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Scientists involved in the science of cymatics use frequency generators and sand to create different geometric forms.

But, if there are 10 principal phonetic tones which underlie the physical reality, what I would like to see is the geometric forms created by phonetic tone generators--of both simple phonetic tones and combinations of phonetic tones.

Perhaps this would have something to do with the Rife machine and other associated technologies in the attainment of health.

In addition to the ten principal phonetic tones, of course, there are also intermediate phonetic tones. For example, the phonetic tone of the word "bush" is an intermediate phonetic tone between the Long U tone of "Truth" and the short u tone of "slut"....

More than 35 years of research into Revelational Phonetics cannot be summarized in these kinds of notes.

Michael
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Tree of life, tree of knowledge.

I believe that it is a metaphor for the brain and the flesh.

Adam and Eve ate from the tree of knowledge (they became flesh eaters or cannibalistic) and fell from grace ot whatever you want to call it.

Was there even a tree of life or is it just indoctrinated bullshit?

But if you look at blood vessels they look like trees.
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The "Tree of Life" is referred to as the "Vision of Knowledge" in the Thanksgiving Hymns of the Dead Sea Scrolls, written by Jesus.

Adam and Eve did not eat from the "tree of knowledge".

They ate from the "tree of the knowledge of good and evil".

It is a symbol for the 'fallen', dualistic consciousness of the "self", as opposed to the non-dualistic consciousness Created by God symbolized by the "Tree of Life"; since it is by means of the non-dualistic dimension of consciousness that the Knowledge of the "Tree of Life" is conveyed.

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If people paid attention they would know the bible gave them the answer but not in Revelations.

I suspect even if people read the answer, they would not understand? Of course this has to be true because probably at least a million people have read the answer.

They see you do not see because the knowledge behind the concept is not known to them.
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So, in other words,

You found something in the Bible.

You believe that YOU are the sole possessor of that knowledge,

and that if any one does not see it your way,

they are wrong?

And furthermore, you delight in watching them struggle to

see what you have seen?

Fuck you and your Temple.

I'm out.
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Please remember that the passage that refers to the "Tree of Life" also makes mention of "the cherubs and the flame of a flashing sword to guard the way to the Tree of Life."

So, if you know what the Tree of Life is, you will also know what the cherubs and the flame of a flashing sword are.

Michael
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Cherubs = covering angels, flame of flashing swaord= sword of the holy spirit which is the word of God, the Bible
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I think it had to do with sound and vibrations and how they affect matter.... :)
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The Tree of Life has two manifestations I know of:

1 - DNA
2 - 10 kabbalistic categories of wisdom/knowledge with 22 lines connecting the 10 circles which represent astronomical bodies in a particular arrangement in the sky.

It is no coincidence that we will (as a civilization) NOT be allowed to eat from the tree of life, just as in Genesis. The tree of life in the sky aligns in January 2020, just a few weeks after our destruction in December 2019.

[link to www.amazon.com]

If you read the book you will get a detailed explanation

but for a basic intro check

[link to endtimesand2019.webs.com]
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we're are the leaves of the tree, and the branches are electromagnetism, connecting to the trunk, which ultimately is the black hole at the centre of the galaxy, which eventually connects to the ground, which is God
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Interesting thing about the Tree of Life and DMT...

If you look at the chemical structure of DMT and overlay it on the Crown, Wisdom, and Knowledge Sephirots it paints a very clear picture that the Dear Molecular Teacher is branched wisdom (of good and evil in my interpretation) that goes through the crown into a partial ring of individual knowledge that eclipses the full ring of source knowledge.

I don't know what the Tree of Life is. I know of many interpretations of it's meaning. It's been made clear to me what happens when one seeks out knowledge that is not for one to understand.

Trust me, you don't want Him having to tell you more than once. At this point in my life, I am happily content with a partial understanding.
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Cherubs = covering angels, flame of flashing swaord= sword of the holy spirit which is the word of God, the Bible
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Know something?

If you have NO Knowledge, it is really not a good thing to pretend that you do.

Millions upon millions of people have died as a result of precisely that; religious 'authorities' having NO Knowledge, but making up stuff to pretend that they do.

That's how they make their money.

And that will result in the annihilation of human civilization if it does not stop.

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Interesting thing about the Tree of Life and DMT...

If you look at the chemical structure of DMT and overlay it on the Crown, Wisdom, and Knowledge Sephirots it paints a very clear picture that the Dear Molecular Teacher is branched wisdom (of good and evil in my interpretation) that goes through the crown into a partial ring of individual knowledge that eclipses the full ring of source knowledge.

I don't know what the Tree of Life is. I know of many interpretations of it's meaning. It's been made clear to me what happens when one seeks out knowledge that is not for one to understand.

Trust me, you don't want Him having to tell you more than once. At this point in my life, I am happily content with a partial understanding.
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DiMethylTE8

DMTE85Point

1dunno1

Maybe rotate those...
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Trust me, you don't want Him having to tell you more than once. At this point in my life, I am happily content with a partial understanding.
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This echoes what the children of Israel said at the base of Mt. Sinai. They did not want to "hear again" the Voice of Revelation. That is why prophets are sent. They hear the Voice of Revelation--and it is something that you do NOT want to "hear again"--and, then, they convey the words Revealed to the people; who are given the opportunity to accept or reject them.

Michael

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tree of life = dendrites in the brain......or ancestral tree
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Now that we have so many opinions what does anyone THINK it is? To summarize;

#1 A metaphor

#2 Sacred Geometry

#3 A physically real tree

#4 Jesus

#5 All the above

#6 I'm a moran

The list could go on and on...

If any did know I feel they most likely would not be here or they would never tell,it is forbidden. There are clues all around us for instance it "The tree" is not sacred geometry however if one understands sacred geometry then they will begin to find information leading to the OP's question in equations,symbols, physical structures and this is quite literally over all heads.

There are many paths towards the tree it takes becoming reborn physically,spiritually and staying that way. It is unfortunate that most will not taste of it until they have firstly tasted death.
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Now that we have so many opinions what does anyone THINK it is? To summarize;

#1 A metaphor

#2 Sacred Geometry

#3 A physically real tree

#4 Jesus

#5 All the above

#6 I'm a moran

The list could go on and on...

If any did know I feel they most likely would not be here or they would never tell,it is forbidden.
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Strange that you would say that.

I specifically told you what the "Tree of Life" is--not what I 'think' it is, but what it is--and you do not even include it in your list.

So, even when told, you won't believe it.

It seems that it does not even register in your memory.

Like writing with your finger on the surface of water is Revealed Truth to the 'fallen' consciousness.

It is as if it is never even heard at all.

Michael
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It is unfortunate that most will not taste of it until they have firstly tasted death.
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Not according to the Teaching of Jesus in the Gospel of Thomas, or anyone else to whom Knowledge has been Revealed.

Michael
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[link to www.theseason.org]


Genesis 3:24 "So He drove out the man; and He placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life."

The "way" is the path that the Christ, the "Tree of Life", would come by. That path was through the womb of Eve, and her daughters down to Mary. It is the Cherubim's that would ultimately protect that way, with the "flaming sword" which is God's word, from the onslought of fallen angels, who came to earth to breed with woman, and destroy all woman's seed. This is what caused the flood of Noah's time, as God said in Genesis 6:7.

Genesis 6:8 we read; "But Noah found grace in the eyes of the Lord." Why?

Genesis 6:9; "These are the generations of Noah: [This is Noah's family tree, history]. Noah was a just man and perfect in generations,"

Noah's perfections "perfect in generations" in the original Hebrew text is "Tamim", and means "without blemish as to pedigree". In Noah's day all flesh was blemished or contaminated by the blood of fallen angels, except Noah and his family, Noah's family had a pure "pedigree".

"Tamim" is a technical word for bodily and physical perfection, and not morality; Hence it is used of animals of "sacrificial purity". Genesis 6:9 does not speak of Noah's moral perfection, but tells us he and his family alone preserved their pedigree to keep it pure, in spite of the deceptions and pressures by the fallen angels and their offspring to destroy the "way of the Tree of Life" [Christ] from coming into the world.

Have you been robbed of the simplicity of God's teaching, and the parables (Matthew 13) that are to give us understanding of His word. Those people [the Kenites} will rob you even of your living [through usury] if you allow it. However even more dangerously, they will infiltrate into your denominations and interpret God's Word into their tradition and false doctrines, which in these days will cause you to be deceived.
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Now that we have so many opinions what does anyone THINK it is? To summarize;

#1 A metaphor

#2 Sacred Geometry

#3 A physically real tree

#4 Jesus

#5 All the above

#6 I'm a moran

The list could go on and on...

If any did know I feel they most likely would not be here or they would never tell,it is forbidden.
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Strange that you would say that.

I specifically told you what the "Tree of Life" is--not what I 'think' it is, but what it is--and you do not even include it in your list.

So, even when told, you won't believe it.

It seems that it does not even register in your memory.

Like writing with your finger on the surface of water is Revealed Truth to the 'fallen' consciousness.

It is as if it is never even heard at all.

Michael
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What part of "I feel they most likely" Was unclear to you.. So come on out in layman's terms and tell everyone.. I'm not here to get in a pissing match with you or anyone else. I was trying to help the seeing blind. As far as your response goes you know what it is fine have you out out your hand and eaten of it? I think not (Again key word think not know) if so I Think you would have seen what I was doing and not went on the offense. I know nothing and please forgive my trespass and a memory is what I try to keep away from.. Slowly backing away now. And please keep your foot on the serpent for us all.
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Now that we have so many opinions what does anyone THINK it is? To summarize;

#1 A metaphor

#2 Sacred Geometry

#3 A physically real tree

#4 Jesus

#5 All the above

#6 I'm a moran

The list could go on and on...

If any did know I feel they most likely would not be here or they would never tell,it is forbidden.
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Strange that you would say that.

I specifically told you what the "Tree of Life" is--not what I 'think' it is, but what it is--and you do not even include it in your list.

So, even when told, you won't believe it.

It seems that it does not even register in your memory.

Like writing with your finger on the surface of water is Revealed Truth to the 'fallen' consciousness.

It is as if it is never even heard at all.

Michael
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What part of "I feel they most likely" Was unclear to you.. So come on out in layman's terms and tell everyone.. I'm not here to get in a pissing match with you or anyone else. I was trying to help the seeing blind. As far as your response goes you know what it is fine have you out out your hand and eaten of it? I think not (Again key word think not know) if so I Think you would have seen what I was doing and not went on the offense. I know nothing and please forgive my trespass and a memory is what I try to keep away from.. Slowly backing away now. And please keep your foot on the serpent for us all.
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Sorry should be have you 'reached' out your hand
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Interesting thing about the Tree of Life and DMT...

If you look at the chemical structure of DMT and overlay it on the Crown, Wisdom, and Knowledge Sephirots it paints a very clear picture that the Dear Molecular Teacher is branched wisdom (of good and evil in my interpretation) that goes through the crown into a partial ring of individual knowledge that eclipses the full ring of source knowledge.

I don't know what the Tree of Life is. I know of many interpretations of it's meaning. It's been made clear to me what happens when one seeks out knowledge that is not for one to understand.

Trust me, you don't want Him having to tell you more than once. At this point in my life, I am happily content with a partial understanding.
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:DiMethylTE8:

:DMTE85Point:

1dunno1

Maybe rotate those...
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You do know the difference between the modern E8 structure and the ancient Kabbalah Tree of Life, don't you?

Why do you always do that - changing others' input to try to fit your own E8 and Gematria patterns?

What will your next obsession be that you attempt to tie everything into? If you don't know, maybe you should become aware in order to know what you're getting yourself into.
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Is it possible that during the Great Flood the seeds from the tree of life were spread outside the Garden of Eden? Is it also possible that the tree of life is no longer guarded by the cherubim?
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Any relevance in these words?

The wise man said just walk this way
To the dawn of the light
The wind will blow into your face
As the years pass you by
Hear this voice from deep inside
It's the call of your heart
Close your eyes and your will find
The passage out of the dark

Here I am
Will you send me an angel
Here I am
In the land of the morning star

The wise man said just find your place
In the eye of the storm
Seek the roses along the way
Just beware of the thorns

Here I am
Will you send me an angel
Here I am
In the land of the morning star

The wise man said just raise your hand
And reach out for the spell
Find the door to the promised land
Just believe in yourself
Hear this voice from deep inside
It's the call of your heart
Close your eyes and your will find
The way out of the dark

Here I am
Will you send me an angel
Here I am
In the land of the morning star
Here I am



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What part of "I feel they most likely" Was unclear to you.. So come on out in layman's terms and tell everyone.. I'm not here to get in a pissing match with you or anyone else. I was trying to help the seeing blind. As far as your response goes you know what it is fine have you [reached] out your hand and eaten of it? I think not (Again key word think not know) if so I Think you would have seen what I was doing and not went on the offense. I know nothing and please forgive my trespass and a memory is what I try to keep away from.. Slowly backing away now. And please keep your foot on the serpent for us all.
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I am seriously trying to make sense of what you have written here, with the correction, but I still cannot grasp what you are trying to say.

I have clearly explained it in layman's terms in a previous note that the "Tree of Life" is the Vision of the "Son of man" and the "Vision of Knowledge" and the "Night Journey" and the "sidrah tree".

It occurs by means of a time-reversal of consciousness which intersects with another time-reversal of consciousness, the Revelation of the "resurrection"; which includes the Revelation of the Memory of Creation and the revelation of the memories of previous lives.

That is the extent that your response allows me to describe.

Michael
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[link to www.theseason.org]


Genesis 3:24 "So He drove out the man; and He placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life."

The "way" is the path that the Christ, the "Tree of Life", would come by. That path was through the womb of Eve, and her daughters down to Mary. It is the Cherubim's that would ultimately protect that way, with the "flaming sword" which is God's word, from the onslought of fallen angels, who came to earth to breed with woman, and destroy all woman's seed.
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Unfortunately, all of these words are put together by the consciousness of the "self"/consciousness of the 'thinker'--that is, the 'fallen', dualistic consciousness--to substitute for the fact that those dimensions of consciousness cannot receive the Vision of the "Son of man" and cannot apprehend the Knowledge Revealed through that Vision.

But one other thing, the Revelation of the Memory of Creation, while occurring after the Vision of the "Son of man" is written in Genesis as having been experienced prior to the Vision of the "Son of man".

This has to do with the function of time-reversals of consciousness; the details of which are among those words which should not be written down (Chapter 10:4 of the Revelation of John) but only conveyed orally and individually from someone who has received those Revelations to someone who has not.

Michael

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What part of "I feel they most likely" Was unclear to you.. So come on out in layman's terms and tell everyone.. I'm not here to get in a pissing match with you or anyone else. I was trying to help the seeing blind. As far as your response goes you know what it is fine have you [reached] out your hand and eaten of it? I think not (Again key word think not know) if so I Think you would have seen what I was doing and not went on the offense. I know nothing and please forgive my trespass and a memory is what I try to keep away from.. Slowly backing away now. And please keep your foot on the serpent for us all.
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I am seriously trying to make sense of what you have written here, with the correction, but I still cannot grasp what you are trying to say.

I have clearly explained it in layman's terms in a previous note that the "Tree of Life" is the Vision of the "Son of man" and the "Vision of Knowledge" and the "Night Journey" and the "sidrah tree".

It occurs by means of a time-reversal of consciousness which intersects with another time-reversal of consciousness, the Revelation of the "resurrection"; which includes the Revelation of the Memory of Creation and the revelation of the memories of previous lives.

That is the extent that your response allows me to describe.

Michael
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I ment not to correct just a rebuttal on my behalf. My post with the lyrics above this comment of yours describes everything you have just stated. Some say the same things it's left to the interpreter. I'm not going to try to pick through everything and waste anyone's time. As when I mentioned tasting death and you wrote not according to Jesus however he did say that unless you are reborn which in order to be one must firstly die. Again I leave it to the interpreter.
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Re: The TREE of LIFE ... what do you think it is?
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