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My 7 year old is being invited into the Talented and Gifted Program

 
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My 7 year old is being invited into the Talented and Gifted Program
My daughter has been tested as potentially gifted in cognitive problem solving. I am being asked to give permission for more testing. If she does well, she will have access to an augmented curriculum in a variety of subjects for the rest of her K - 12 schooling.

Any reason I should not give this permission? Anyone have any experiences with this?
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Re: My 7 year old is being invited into the Talented and Gifted Program
My daughter has been tested as potentially gifted in cognitive problem solving. I am being asked to give permission for more testing. If she does well, she will have access to an augmented curriculum in a variety of subjects for the rest of her K - 12 schooling.

Any reason I should not give this permission? Anyone have any experiences with this?
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Sounds like your child has a God given gift. She might need it for a challenge, Excellerated kids are pretty special.
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Re: My 7 year old is being invited into the Talented and Gifted Program
They are trying to identify the kids who weren't given enough vaccines. Yours is obviously one of them.
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Re: My 7 year old is being invited into the Talented and Gifted Program
Read any paperwork very thoroughly and if you see the acronym DARPA anywhere - be very afraid !!!!
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my dog is 4 months old and he's in the gifted program. show off.
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Re: My 7 year old is being invited into the Talented and Gifted Program
My daughter has been tested as potentially gifted in cognitive problem solving. I am being asked to give permission for more testing. If she does well, she will have access to an augmented curriculum in a variety of subjects for the rest of her K - 12 schooling.

Any reason I should not give this permission? Anyone have any experiences with this?
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All three of my kids were in the program. It gave them an expanded education and benefits. Go for it!
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Re: My 7 year old is being invited into the Talented and Gifted Program
why, what does DARPA mean?
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Re: My 7 year old is being invited into the Talented and Gifted Program
I was involved in this myself as a young kid and I will let you in on my experience.

In my case I had to travel one day a week to a different school, every week until the end of schooling.

It inflated my ego a bit.

My parents and family came to expect greatness from me as a result.

If I could do it again, I would prefer not to be thought of as special or some form of genius.

My experience.
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Re: My 7 year old is being invited into the Talented and Gifted Program
There's a really long thread about this, some people think thats how they neutralise any potential 'bright' people, by selecting them out in childhood for brainwashing. People who attended these classes have memory dropouts.
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Re: My 7 year old is being invited into the Talented and Gifted Program
I was involved in this myself as a young kid and I will let you in on my experience.

In my case I had to travel one day a week to a different school, every week until the end of schooling.

It inflated my ego a bit.

My parents and family came to expect greatness from me as a result.

If I could do it again, I would prefer not to be thought of as special or some form of genius.

My experience.
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This reason makes a lot of sense. I too can relate in other ways and have lost a lot because of it.
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Re: My 7 year old is being invited into the Talented and Gifted Program
They are trying to identify the kids who weren't given enough vaccines. Yours is obviously one of them.
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This is very true, i was in TAG, think of the acronym.. and the word it spells.. your child is being tagged.. these kids get special attention.. elites don't want slave children to grow up to use their gifts and talents for the wrong purposes..
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Re: My 7 year old is being invited into the Talented and Gifted Program
There is a Thread that might interest you:

Thread: Were You Part Of The "Mentally Gifted Minds" Program In California Scools back in the 70's?

Strangely enough, it is now over 300 pages in length.

GLP attracts a lot of intelligent people, though some do not comment on what they read.... That's pretty obvious, judging from some of the 'regular' contributors, I'm afraid.

I scanned some of the input from the Thread, here and there, and I found consistently that former students mention:

- complete amnesia about the teachers and the classrooms
- some exposure to psy experiments, flashing lights, possible mind control programming
- concerns that they would find themselves kidnapped
- no lasting damage reported

However, as a parent, you should be aware that 2013 is not like 1970.

Some early stuff may have been harmless enough, but the brutal forces running things today, in my opinion, cannot be trusted to do the right thing by your child.

Now that your family is on the radar, I would consider moving to another state.
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My middle son is in the gifted program. The gifted teacher sees him weekly. I think it benefits him.. but depends on the school. He is in high school..took the ACT in 7th grade got a 19...he was 12 years old. He is in the 10 th grade now..will take the ACT again this year and again in 12th grade. In high school 11th and 12th grade will start working on scholarships. He is currently involved in scholar bowls usually gets 60% of the answers tor the team. Working on the Kansas scholar for even more scholarships.
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Re: My 7 year old is being invited into the Talented and Gifted Program
I was in gifted and talented. So long as she is a good student it will help her.
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Re: My 7 year old is being invited into the Talented and Gifted Program
My daughter has been tested as potentially gifted in cognitive problem solving. I am being asked to give permission for more testing. If she does well, she will have access to an augmented curriculum in a variety of subjects for the rest of her K - 12 schooling.

Any reason I should not give this permission? Anyone have any experiences with this?
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I have had a child in a similar program.

The #1 question to ask is what your child will be missing in regular class when pulled out for the gifted activities. Sometimes that can be substantial.
We become like that to which we are devoted. Choose wisely.
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Re: My 7 year old is being invited into the Talented and Gifted Program
There's a really long thread about this, some people think thats how they neutralise any potential 'bright' people, by selecting them out in childhood for brainwashing. People who attended these classes have memory dropouts.
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I was in the program. I threw my senior term paper in the garbage can, in front of my English teacher, after gave me a C+. She said I didn't write it in the short, unattached, preordained method. She claimed it was too fluid. She punished me, academically, for writing a superior paper. Through university placement exams, I bypassed freshman English-Lit. I made an A+ in Sophomore English-Lit, as a freshman.
My daughter is now in one of these programs. Interesting things are happening.
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Re: My 7 year old is being invited into the Talented and Gifted Program
Our school system didn't offer a talented and gifted program through the school year, but they did offer summer classes for the upper ranked students. My kids went to the summer sessions.
My youngest skipped a grade, and at 17 is a year younger than the other first year students in her college. She is on the Deans list, and has a 4.0 GPA.
She could have gone to a private school, or started college after her sophomore year in high school. She had offers from several colleges across the country while she was in her sophomore year in high school, wanting her to finish high school, and start her college studies with them, no cost to us. We declined this and other offers for private academies across the country. While in high school, she was ranked as one of the top students across the USA. She graduated from high school with a 4.49 GPA, the highest in our city, including the public and private high schools.
We wanted her to have a normal high school experience. I allowed her to skip 1 grade in middle school, which did make a big differance, but yet socially, was a better choice than the potential isolation from her classmates that had been with her since first grade.
Sometimes you have to take a step back, and look at the whole picture. Just because you have been offered the "pie in the sky" doesn't mean that it is the best. Remember, sometimes it is better to be the big fish in the little sea, than the little fish in the big sea.
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Re: My 7 year old is being invited into the Talented and Gifted Program
Personally, I wouldn't put my very young kid in any kind of special programs in public schools. They have plenty of time to explore their full potential OUTSIDE of the gov't run establishment. You don't want to draw their attention to your kid in any way. Just my two cents.
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Re: My 7 year old is being invited into the Talented and Gifted Program
I was in GT from first to 6th, all we did was bullshit and learn how to play chess...When they changed the class to literature in 7th grade I dropped out in protest to reading 200 pages a night, plus 100 definitions...On top of a regular math class which we did 100 problems a night plus definitions (Only class In my career to have finished the book, and started another one before year end, yes even including college)...one was required, the other was not...I remember starting the math homework at 7, going to sleep at 10, waking up some times 2 hours before school to finish it, probably the hardest year of my life, but I commend that math teacher to this day for forcing us to actually learn...Senior year of high school I took machine math as part of my vocational (since 4 hours of auto tech wasn't allowed) most the people from county school could not even do basic fraction division..."3/4= a percent? no wai"
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I was in GT from first to 6th, all we did was bullshit and learn how to play chess...When they changed the class to literature in 7th grade I dropped out in protest to reading 200 pages a night, plus 100 definitions...On top of a regular math class which we did 100 problems a night plus definitions (Only class In my career to have finished the book, and started another one before year end, yes even including college)...one was required, the other was not...I remember starting the math homework at 7, going to sleep at 10, waking up some times 2 hours before school to finish it, probably the hardest year of my life, but I commend that math teacher to this day for forcing us to actually learn...Senior year of high school I took machine math as part of my vocational (since 4 hours of auto tech wasn't allowed) most the people from county school could not even do basic fraction division..."3/4= a percent? no wai"
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on a side note, GT allowed us to and paid us to go visit different Govt officials in Kentucky, We spent a week sitting in on state meetings
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Re: My 7 year old is being invited into the Talented and Gifted Program
Let your child do it, I had fun. Remember you only become smarter by putting smarter people around you...Let your child have the ability to socialize with other intelligent people without ridicule from the jealous sub-humans in their regular class
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I was in the gifted program from 4th through 12th grade. It changed my life and enhanced my education.

Do NOT make the mistake of keeping your child out of gifted!

Lots of excellent opportunities await your child in gifted--special field trips, a new circle of academically adept friends, but most of all a support system of teachers and peers who will give your child the same positive reinforcement for academics that the "jocks" get for athletics.
A subject observes itself observing itself observing itself observing itself observing itself observing itself observing itself observing itself ad infinitum.
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Go for it. It will keep your daughter challenged and possible give her an advantage in life.

My daughter was in that program. She is currently in medical school.

Good luck
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I graduated in 1993
I never demonstrated much of my ability
I was a good boy but I was much too smart for my own good
Teachers said I was gifted and quite talented

Do you have an extra quarter?
Got to get to class tomorrow
All is fair in Asbury, make my way into Berkeley

When I was seven, I stared in to the monitor
And found my best friend, Mr. Commodore 64
Daddy bought me an international business machine
And with it, I compromised national security

Do you have an extra quarter?
Got to get to class tomorrow
All is fair in Asbury, make my way into Berkeley

What the hell you savin' for?
I'm gonna start the Third World War
Hanging with the punks in the gutters I have found
Most of them are gifted and talented as well

Oh, brother could you spare a dime?
If a quarter you do not have
Been running from the Marshall Man
Since I broke into NORAD, but it's working out so well
The beggar's life is swell
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Re: My 7 year old is being invited into the Talented and Gifted Program
I was in it from 2nd grade
I skipped a bunch of grades later
And ended up at university at 15
Not recommended

All of my four child were identified early as gifted
After the first is identified, the watch the others
Just be careful
Keep a lose eye on what is going on

Smart kids need smart friends
I wasent a rich kid, but the rich families involved
Made sure I got further educational opportunities.

All in all, take all the help and opportunity available
For your child.
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I was in the goofy and silly program!!
Idealism is a wonderful thing, as long as you have someone rational to put it to good use.
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I was in the gifted child program, go for it, it will benefir her
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Re: My 7 year old is being invited into the Talented and Gifted Program
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My son was in that. Do it. If you don't he/she will be bored because they will not be allowed to think.
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Re: My 7 year old is being invited into the Talented and Gifted Program
My daughter has been tested as potentially gifted in cognitive problem solving. I am being asked to give permission for more testing. If she does well, she will have access to an augmented curriculum in a variety of subjects for the rest of her K - 12 schooling.

Any reason I should not give this permission? Anyone have any experiences with this?
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My daughter was in a gifted program, I have mixed feelings about those programs.
The kids not in the program watched the 'gifted ones' being pulled out of class on certain days by the gifted teacher. I felt sorry for them.
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Re: My 7 year old is being invited into the Talented and Gifted Program
If your child is "gifted" then they may find themselves rather bored as they move through school. Children enrolled in these programs are considered "special needs". They'll receive an individual education plan. They'll probably be tracked.

In some schools the program is intense, in others it is an opportunity for the students to leave their regular classes to go play with electronics, or learn chess,or build "rube goldberg" contraptions.

If your child can handle being separated from their peers to work with an adult and one or two other students without making them feel uncomfortable, or awkward then let them, just know that when you give permission you are probably going to have to sign a paper that says that you will now work with the school staff to help your child, and if you have any problems you'll have to go through a lot of red-tape to remove them from the program, that is unless their teacher and the other school administrators don't agree with you.

None of this is free,and so consider how your child will be costing the school extra. That is money that they'll assuredly try to get back from their state or the federal govt. That is the only concern I'd have with placing my child in the program.

Been there, done that. My child has now graduated from an honors program at her university and she got to wear all the pretty colored ropes and have her name called out "with special honors". But if you were to ask her if it was because of the mentally gifted program I think she'd snort and say the program was just extra work that was sort of fun.

Best of luck to you. My personal recommendation is that you try to find as many opportunities/outlets for learning as you can. Bright children are fun, but they are also challenging!

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