Hi all, what an exciting time. I've been getting bombarded by information at the moment regarding the regathering of Israel, and as importantly, the true identity of God's people. And it ties in to everything WL has been sharing.. often one little thing you've said opens a huge door of thinking for me. This happened previously too, when you pointed out to me that 'Babylon is fallen, is fallen' is because there are two Babylon's, it was the key to a major and significant revelation for me. Still, I pondered it but I didn't understand it until the holy spirit gave the answer directly. That is always so much better than arriving at the conclusion for myself, because if I had by my own thinking, I could retain doubt. But when you are told by the spirit of God, no doubt remains.

I have an amazing article hear, I'd like to post it all but it is extensive. I'll share a little of it. As you said WL, Israel has been sold out to Dispensationalism, and guess who popularised this idea in the modern context? Yes, the same friendly chaps who introduced a 'pre-trib'rapture! Woe to those men....

They reflect a common misconception about WHO the children of Israel actually are. The Bible tells us very specifically who comprised the "children of Israel." They are listed in several places in the book of Genesis.
The children of Jacob, who was renamed Israel (Gen. 32:28), were:
(1) Reuben
(2) Simeon
(3) Levi
(4) Judah
(5) Zebulun
(6) Issachar
(7) Dan
(8) Gad
(9) Asher
(10) Naphtali
(11) Joseph
(12) Benjamin
Jacob, the son of Isaac and grandson of Abraham, was recipient of the same promises made to them by God. The 49th chapter of Genesis shows Jacob prophesying about the future of his 12 sons, who were the forefathers of the 12 tribes of Israel. It was the descendants of these sons of Jacob that Moses led out of Egypt. The tribe of Judah (later called "Jews") was just one of the 12 tribes that came out of Egyptian slavery.
(As a side note, because of Jacob's deathbed adoption of Joseph's two sons Ephraim and Manasseh as his own recorded in Genesis 48, he effectively gave a double inheritance to his favorite son Joseph. Therefore, the Bible sometimes lists 13 tribes, with the duo of Ephraim and Manasseh replacing their father Joseph.)
Let's look at the history of the children of Israel, from the time of the Exodus until their captivity many centuries later. The 12 tribes, from the time of their wandering in the desert after leaving Egypt, were called the "children of Israel" or the "House of Israel" (Exo. 16:31; 40:38; Lev. 10:6; Num. 20:29; Jos. 21:45).
After coming into the Holy Land, a series of judges ruled over Israel for a period of about 450 years (Acts 13:20). Then Israel asked for a king to rule over them, just as all the surrounding nations had (I Sam. 8:5). God chose Saul, of the tribe of Benjamin, to rule over Israel; he was anointed by Samuel. But Saul displeased God and was rejected from being king. He was replaced as king by David, who was from the tribe of Judah. David's son Solomon followed him on the throne of Israel.
With the exception of 7 1/2 years at the beginning of David's reign when he ruled only over the House of Judah (II Sam. 2:11), these three kings reigned over the united 12 tribes of Israel as one nation. However, because later in life King Solomon worshiped other gods and did not keep YHVH's covenant and statutes, God told him that He would split the kingdom into two nations after his death (I Kings 11:9-13). This occurred about 933 BCE during the reign of Solomon's son, Rehoboam:
I KINGS 12:1 And Rehoboam went to Shechem, for all Israel had gone to Shechem to make him king. 2 So it happened, when Jeroboam the son of Nebat heard it (he was still in Egypt, for he had fled from the presence of King Solomon and had been dwelling in Egypt), 3 that they sent and called him. Then Jeroboam and the whole assembly of Israel came and spoke to Rehoboam, saying, 4 "Your father made our yoke heavy; now therefore, lighten the burdensome service of your father, and his heavy yoke which he put on us, and we will serve you." 5 So he said to them, "Depart for three days, then come back to me." And the people departed. 6 Then King Rehoboam consulted the elders who stood before his father Solomon while he still lived, and he said, "How do you advise me to answer these people?" 7 And they spoke to him, saying, "If you will be a servant to these people today, and serve them, and answer them, and speak good words to them, then they will be your servants forever." 8 But he rejected the advice which the elders had given him, and consulted the young men who had grown up with him, who stood before him. 9 And he said to them, "What advice do you give? How should we answer this people who have spoken to me, saying, 'Lighten the yoke which your father put on us'?" 10 Then the young men who had grown up with him spoke to him, saying, "Thus you should speak to this people who have spoken to you, saying, 'Your father made our yoke heavy, but you make it lighter on us' – thus you shall say to them: 'My little finger shall be thicker than my father's waist! 11 And now, whereas my father put a heavy yoke on you, I will add to your yoke; my father chastised you with whips, but I will chastise you with scourges!' " 12 So Jeroboam and all the people came to Rehoboam the third day, as the king had directed, saying, "Come back to me the third day." 13 Then the king answered the people roughly, and rejected the advice which the elders had given him; 14 and he spoke to them according to the advice of the young men, saying, "My father made your yoke heavy, but I will add to your yoke; my father chastised you with whips, but I will chastise you with scourges!" 15 So the king did not listen to the people; for the turn of events was from the LORD, that He might fulfill His word, which the LORD had spoken by Ahijah the Shilonite to Jeroboam the son of Nebat. 16 Now when all Israel saw that the king did not listen to them, the people answered the king, saying: "What share have we in David? We have no inheritance in the son of Jesse. To your tents, O Israel! Now, see to your own house, O David!" So Israel departed to their tents. (NKJV)
The 10 tribes, led by Jeroboam (who was from the tribe of Ephraim), seceded from Rehoboam's kingdom because of taxation. For those of you who know a little bit about American history, that might sound somewhat familiar. Let’s follow the story a little further:
I KINGS 12:17 But Rehoboam reigned over the children of Israel who dwelt in the cities of Judah. 18 Then King Rehoboam sent Adoram, who was in charge of the revenue; but all Israel stoned him with stones, and he died. Therefore King Rehoboam mounted his chariot in haste to flee to Jerusalem. 19 So Israel has been in rebellion against the house of David to this day. 20 Now it came to pass when all Israel heard that Jeroboam had come back, they sent for him and called him to the congregation, and made him king over all Israel. There was none who followed the house of David, but the tribe of Judah only. 21 And when Rehoboam came to Jerusalem, he assembled all the House of Judah with the tribe of Benjamin, one hundred and eighty thousand chosen men who were warriors, to fight against the House of Israel, that he might restore the kingdom to Rehoboam the son of Solomon. 22 But the word of God came to Shemaiah the man of God, saying, 23 "Speak to Rehoboam the son of Solomon, king of Judah, to all the House of Judah and Benjamin, and to the rest of the people, saying, 24 'Thus says the LORD: "You shall not go up nor fight against your brethren the children of Israel. Let every man return to his house, for this thing is from Me." ' " Therefore they obeyed the word of the LORD, and turned back, according to the word of the LORD. (NKJV)
God told Rehoboam that the split was divinely ordained, and that he was not to fight the 10 tribes of Israel that had broken away from him. To his credit, Rehoboam heeded God's word and sent his troops home. The separation resulted in a northern kingdom in Samaria and a southern kingdom in Judea. The northern kingdom was known by several names, including: Israel, the House of Israel, Samaria, Joseph, the House of Joseph, and Ephraim. The southern kingdom was generally called Judah or the House of Judah.
From the very beginning of the split, the northern kingdom perverted and outright broke God's Laws. King Jeroboam immediately began to change the Law. He removed the Levites from the priesthood, which caused most of them to return to the southern kingdom of Judah (I Kings 13:33; II Chr. 11:13-14). He also set up calf idols at Bethel and Dan, set up shrines on high places, and changed the time and place for observing the Feasts of God (I Kings 12:26-33). These sinful innovations plagued the House of Israel throughout their existence.
Several decades before the fall of the House of Israel, the prophet Hosea preached the message of God to the separated tribes of Israel. While he addressed both the House of Judah and the House of Israel in his prophecies, Hosea's primary message is directed at the House of Israel, or Ephraim:
HOSEA 1:1 The word of the LORD that came to Hosea the son of Beeri, in the days of Uzziah, Jotham, Ahaz, and Hezekiah, kings of Judah, and in the days of Jeroboam the son of Joash, king of Israel. 2 When the LORD began to speak by Hosea, the LORD said to Hosea: "Go, take yourself a wife of harlotry and children of harlotry, for the land has committed great harlotry by departing from the LORD." 3 So he went and took Gomer the daughter of Diblaim, and she conceived and bore him a son. 4 Then the LORD said to him: "Call his name Jezreel, for in a little while I will avenge the bloodshed of Jezreel on the house of Jehu, and bring an end to the kingdom of the House of Israel. 5 It shall come to pass in that day that I will break the bow of Israel in the Valley of Jezreel." 6 And she conceived again and bore a daughter. Then God said to him: "Call her name Lo-Ruhamah, for I will no longer have mercy on the House of Israel, but I will utterly take them away. 7 Yet I will have mercy on the House of Judah, will save them by the LORD their God, and will not save them by bow, nor by sword or battle, by horses or horsemen." 8 Now when she had weaned Lo-Ruhamah, she conceived and bore a son. 9 Then God said: "Call his name Lo-Ammi, for you are not My people, and I will not be your God. 10 Yet the number of the children of Israel shall be as the sand of the sea, which cannot be measured or numbered. And it shall come to pass in the place where it was said to them, 'You are not My people,' there it shall be said to them, 'You are sons of the living God.' 11 Then the children of Judah and the children of Israel shall be gathered together, and appoint for themselves one head; and they shall come up out of the land, for great will be the day of Jezreel!" (NKJV)
To graphically illustrate the House of Israel's rebellion against Him, God commanded Hosea to take a prostitute for a wife (Hos. 1:2). The reason for this was because God’s wife, the House of Israel, had prostituted herself with the surrounding nations. As we go through these prophecies, it's important to realize that the God (Hebrew 'elohim) of Israel who was married to the House of Israel (and also the House of Judah) was the one who later came in the flesh as Yeshua of Nazareth.
The harlot Gomer bore Hosea three children. God had Hosea name them symbolically to show how He was going to deal with the House of Israel, which had committed harlotry by worshiping strange gods. These three children were named Jezreel, Lo-Ruhamah, and Lo-Ammi.
All three of these names described God's punishment on the House of Israel, as He explained to Hosea. JEZREEL (which literally means "God sows" in Hebrew) represented God's sowing of the House of Israel among the Gentile nations of the earth after they were carried away into captivity by the Assyrians (Hos. 8:8; Zec. 10:7-10). LO-RUHAMAH (which is Hebrew for "no mercy") indicated that God would no longer have mercy upon the House of Israel, allowing them to be taken captive because of their sins (Hos. 1:6). The name LO-AMMI (literally "no people" in Hebrew) pictured the gradual loss of national identity by the House of Israel. They were prophesied to lose the knowledge of who they were. Scattered throughout the nations of the world, the House of Israel forgot that they were part of the YHVH's chosen people (Hos. 1:9) and eventually came to view themselves as part of those nations where they were living. Essentially, they came to believe that they were Gentiles.