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thunder and lightning winter storm ok people this is not normal!

 
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Re: thunder and lightning winter storm ok people this is not normal!
so I was watching the weather channel earlier and they were showing the snow coming down and then they showed a clip where it was thunder and lightning


ok people this is not normal!

I use to live up north and I never ever recall thunder and lightning during a winter storm!


here is the video of the new thunder lighting video it was filmed in middle island NEW YORK Feb 8 2013
[link to www.weather.com]




Thundersnow, also known as a winter thunderstorm or a thunder snowstorm, is an extremely rare kind of thunderstorm with snow falling as the primary precipitation instead of rain. It typically falls in regions of strong upward motion within the cold sector of an extratropical cyclone. Thermodynamically, it is not different from any other type of thunderstorms but the top of the cumulonimbus is usually quite low. As well as snow, graupel, or more rarely hail also commonly falls.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]







ok im looking for the clip found this one from 2011 feb 1

[link to www.weather.com]


[link to www.youtube.com]



a joke not real but funny----> Lighting strikes during winter storm Nemo
[link to www.youtube.com]

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I was once driving across northing New Mexico in late April and saw a giant anvil shaped cloud way up ahead on the horizon. Thinking "Cool, thunder storm" I was delighted that it stayed put as I approached.

Finally I entered the area under it, and it was snow.
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Re: thunder and lightning winter storm ok people this is not normal!
It totally is normal...........it happens somewhere multiple times, every winter.....just maybe not in your little world.........
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please post dates and links and location as proof to your normal?
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Re: thunder and lightning winter storm ok people this is not normal!
Google "Thunder snow" it happens all the time in Kansas, Oklahoma, North Texas, etc. that region. I've seen it SO many times in my life. Totally normal.
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NOT normal in New England...NOT normal at all.
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Yes actually IT IS normal in New England! LOL!
 Quoting: Floobarb the Argnorf


Really????? I saw it only one other time--last year--and I've lived here all my life.
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Normal as in 'natural' or 'known to happen' - which doesn't necessarily imply that it is common place or occurs frequently.

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Re: thunder and lightning winter storm ok people this is not normal!
2011 is normal you younger peeps..


Tons of vids for thundersnow in New England.

[link to video.search.yahoo.com]
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ok the oldest one in your collection was 2006 and that video is in new york all the others are 2011

and just watched it and there was no thunder or lighting in this video just music and long boring snow video

[link to www.youtube.com]
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Re: thunder and lightning winter storm ok people this is not normal!
maybe u were born yesterday?
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Re: thunder and lightning winter storm ok people this is not normal!
Google "Thunder snow" it happens all the time in Kansas, Oklahoma, North Texas, etc. that region. I've seen it SO many times in my life. Totally normal.
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NOT normal in New England...NOT normal at all.
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Yes actually IT IS normal in New England! LOL!
 Quoting: Floobarb the Argnorf


Really????? I saw it only one other time--last year--and I've lived here all my life.
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It's not everyone eleses fault that you have not been paying attention.
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Re: thunder and lightning winter storm ok people this is not normal!
BREAKING NEWS!!! OP is a fucking moron!
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maybe u were born yesterday?
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^^THIS^^ OP! Attack me all you want but how many people coming in to this thread and saying this is it going to take you get to to realize that perhaps EVERYONE ELSE isint wrong and it might just be you?

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Re: thunder and lightning winter storm ok people this is not normal!
Google "Thunder snow" it happens all the time in Kansas, Oklahoma, North Texas, etc. that region. I've seen it SO many times in my life. Totally normal.
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NOT normal in New England...NOT normal at all.
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Yes it is normal in New England. Christ the nutters are out tonight! LOL!
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Foobar i am coming clean... it does happen all the time here in Egypt when it comes a snowstorm i would put video proof but i dont have any power or internet lighning just hit my area must of been thundersnow when we are back up will post.... later
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Re: thunder and lightning winter storm ok people this is not normal!
Google "Thunder snow" it happens all the time in Kansas, Oklahoma, North Texas, etc. that region. I've seen it SO many times in my life. Totally normal.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25042174


NOT normal in New England...NOT normal at all.
 Quoting: telling it straight


Yes it is normal in New England. Christ the nutters are out tonight! LOL!
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Foobar i am coming clean... it does happen all the time here in Egypt when it comes a snowstorm i would put video proof but i dont have any power or internet lighning just hit my area must of been thundersnow when we are back up will post.... later
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I hope your goats are keeping you warm there in Egypt dude.
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Re: thunder and lightning winter storm ok people this is not normal!
a joke not real but funny----> Lighting strikes during winter storm Nemo
[link to www.youtube.com]

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Wow. I've never seen a video like that in my life. That clip will be on all the news channels tomorrow!! Geez that was close!
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2011 is normal you younger peeps..


Tons of vids for thundersnow in New England.

[link to video.search.yahoo.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18677079


ok the oldest one in your collection was 2006 and that video is in new york all the others are 2011

and just watched it and there was no thunder or lighting in this video just music and long boring snow video

[link to www.youtube.com]
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 Quoting: {SeaPunk}


You asked for it:

[link to www.scientificamerican.com]
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It's been more than 30 years—during the Blizzard of 1978 to be exact—since Neil Stuart saw "thundersnow," a weather phenomenon featuring the unusual combination of thunder, lightning and snow.
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Thunder and lightning during a snowstorm is different from a run-of-the-mill snowstorm; it is extremely rare—fewer than 1 percent of observed snowstorms unleash thundersnow, according to a 1971 NSW study. But recorded observations of the phenomenon date back to 250 B.C., say ancient Chinese records translated in 1980 by atmospheric scientist Pao-Kuan Wang, now of the University of Wisconsin–Madison.
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-When thundersnow happened, strangely, in New Mexico once during the late 90's--a ski lift at a ski resort was hit by lightning and heavily damaged

-Buffalo, NY (during one of their massive snowstorms in 2006) reported a heavy thundersnow event that went on for hours

-Reports of thundersnow events are occurring more frequently in early 2008 in places around the Midwest and South

-Back in 2004, an area of the U.K. happened to get a very bizarre thundersnow mix. In an unusual concoction of warm and cooler air colliding--this particular area (reportedly in the southern regions of the U.K) received everything from blue lightning, heavy snow, ice pellets and tornadoes.

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Re: thunder and lightning winter storm ok people this is not normal!
I lived in the St Lawrence valley of extreme Upstate new york for 20 years, a place 50 miles WSW of Montreal where winter used to last 5 months where it snowed almost every day in the winter and I only heard thunder once during a snowstorm. It was an extremely unusual feeling and everyone was like, " what the hell was that about". It was reported on the news and people were calling in from all over the area to authorities and media trying to figure out what it was, end there were many people I knew who had lived long lives there in the 60's and 70's saying they never had heard of anything like it before. This was in 1977. I never saw lightening though, leading me to believe the thunder might actually have been the result of the ground settling under the weight of the heavy snow that was 7 ft deep with drifts of 25 ft. In my opinion this makes it extremely unusual and certainly not normal.
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Re: thunder and lightning winter storm ok people this is not normal!
op ive witnessed this back in the 90s its super rare but not unheard of
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"This same effect can happen along the East Coast, when an icy cold nor’easter moves in to a region on the heels of a warmer front.

Thundersnow has accompanied some of the most memorable snowstorms of the last several years. A Christmas Eve snowstorm that hit parts of the Middle Atlantic and New England in 1966 was accompanied by so much lightning and thunder that weather historian David Ludlum referred to it as the “Donner and Blitzen Snowstorm.” Thundersnows were also observed during the Blizzard of February 1978 (over New England) and the Blizzard of 1996 (over the Northeast US)." from Farmers almanac link below






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[link to www.geofffox.com]
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” Thundersnows were also observed during the Blizzard of February 1978 (over New England) ." from Farmers almanac link below






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Come to think of it , it was 78 when I heard the thunder during a snowstorm and the snow was so deep. I remember i was out riding snowmobiles with my friends and we had stopped on the river bank to blaze one up when a hell of a thunderclap let loose. It was snowing so hard you couldn't see by a about ten feet in front of you, literally.
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Re: thunder and lightning winter storm ok people this is not normal!
It's normal and it happens. It's not a extremely common occurrence, but it happens now and then. I've witnessed it twice.
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Re: thunder and lightning winter storm ok people this is not normal!
After this I expect to see a thread saying that heat lightning didn't start happening until HARP was built either.
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Re: thunder and lightning winter storm ok people this is not normal!
saw a flash of sheet lightning over central London several hours ago, it's cold & sleety here, cold enough to snow. It's rare to see lighting in the winter, but not unusual, have seen lightning in winter up in the fells of Cumbria in the sleet & rain.
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Re: thunder and lightning winter storm ok people this is not normal!
It's normal and it happens. It's not a extremely common occurrence, but it happens now and then. I've witnessed it twice.
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I guess my point was that it is unusual in the extreme no matter how you measure it, since I saw so many snow storms and only heard thunder once during one. Like I said, I spent 20 years in an area where it snowed nearly every day from November into April and rarely even May with many severe snowstorms with accumulation rates exceeding 4 or 5 inches an hour, and I only heard it once.

The St. Lawrence valley is notorious for bad winters, we took what people are calling a blizzard tonight in stride as an everyday occurrence back in the day, and went about our business. In fact 2 ft of snow falling in one night only resulted in a delay of one hour in the school schedule, to give you an idea. As long as traffic kept moving and the plows ran, the roads stayed open and I never remember a time when they wren's completely cleared within a day besides that permanent layer of very hard packed snow the plow could get up, and they put sand on it. The end result was exactly like driving on a concrete road. The only time most people didn't try to drive is during freezing rain. A foot of snow on the road and most people would just go on to town in the old rusted "winter car". The thing that made it possible I guess is the snow was so dry and when it is very cold traction is much higher in snow. What causes your tires to spin is water that forms a layer between the snow and your tires..At ten above to ten or more below zero you can plow through two feet of dry snow with a normal car and it barely slows you down
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a joke not real but funny----> Lighting strikes during winter storm Nemo
[link to www.youtube.com]

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Wow. I've never seen a video like that in my life. That clip will be on all the news channels tomorrow!! Geez that was close!
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Re: thunder and lightning winter storm ok people this is not normal!
It is rare but perfectly normal ... lived up in central NY for 25 years and had thunder snow about 10 times during that time ... have not lived up that way in about 15 years, but it happens and always has ... all these things you people seem to think never happen have always happened ... the only difference today is all the technology and all the people on the internet pointing this stuff out basically instantly ... before the internet was around all the same damn things always happened etc ...

same thing with earthquakes and everything else ... better technology to pick the shit up and also for people to report crap basically instantly where the whole damn world can see ...

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"This same effect can happen along the East Coast, when an icy cold nor’easter moves in to a region on the heels of a warmer front.

Thundersnow has accompanied some of the most memorable snowstorms of the last several years. A Christmas Eve snowstorm that hit parts of the Middle Atlantic and New England in 1966 was accompanied by so much lightning and thunder that weather historian David Ludlum referred to it as the “Donner and Blitzen Snowstorm.” Thundersnows were also observed during the Blizzard of February 1978 (over New England) and the Blizzard of 1996 (over the Northeast US)." from Farmers almanac link below






[link to www.farmersalmanac.com]

[link to www.geofffox.com]
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there you go!!!!!!!!!!!!!

some proof and link....

thats what am looking for
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After this I expect to see a thread saying that heat lightning didn't start happening until HARP was built either.
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Re: thunder and lightning winter storm ok people this is not normal!
so I was watching the weather channel earlier and they were showing the snow coming down and then they showed a clip where it was thunder and lightning


ok people this is not normal!

I use to live up north and I never ever recall thunder and lightning during a winter storm!


here is the video of the new thunder lighting video it was filmed in middle island NEW YORK Feb 8 2013
[link to www.weather.com]




Thundersnow, also known as a winter thunderstorm or a thunder snowstorm, is an extremely rare kind of thunderstorm with snow falling as the primary precipitation instead of rain. It typically falls in regions of strong upward motion within the cold sector of an extratropical cyclone. Thermodynamically, it is not different from any other type of thunderstorms but the top of the cumulonimbus is usually quite low. As well as snow, graupel, or more rarely hail also commonly falls.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]







ok im looking for the clip found this one from 2011 feb 1

[link to www.weather.com]


[link to www.youtube.com]



a joke not real but funny----> Lighting strikes during winter storm Nemo
[link to www.youtube.com]

 Quoting: {SeaPunk}


thunder snow dipshit
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big time BURP!
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LOL what? 4 pages of rants about thundersnow? We used to get this all the time in Ohio. Had it during all 3 DC blizzards in 2009/2010 winter. Whats next? Demands to see pictures of snow in Hell? You people get paniced over an op wanting attention (or just being plain stupid) so easily.
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Clearly OP, there are mixed opinions regarding T/S? All I am able to conclude is, assuming it's a semi-normal phenomenon is: it is very rare. Good thread though and a thousand stars...
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LOL what? 4 pages of rants about thundersnow? We used to get this all the time in Ohio. Had it during all 3 DC blizzards in 2009/2010 winter. Whats next? Demands to see pictures of snow in Hell? You people get paniced over an op wanting attention (or just being plain stupid) so easily.
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back in 1993 there was a storm in my shit hometown PA. thunder and lightning and snow all together. it was surreal.
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