Asteroid approach shrank to 14,000 miles this a.m. + NASA says "Astrometry is URGENTLY Needed"

Then I will also await an apology from you when this asteroid follows my predictions exactly.

Just curious, are you also saying there is 0 probability of a Tunguska event ?

For this asteroid? Yes, that's what I'm saying.

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Why do you do this?
I just think it's interesting, the sheer number of posts, the extreme effort you go to... wow! You are devoted to straightening people out.
Is this your calling?
Do you feel like maybe you are wasting your life standing in the way of people's opinions?

I stand in the way of false astronomical doom. I think it's interesting that you don't give a damn about the truth. I think it's interesting that you get all butthurt when someone who actually knows what the hell he's talking about comes on here and explains the truth.

Even if it doesn't hit us, it's liable to fuck up the orbit of some satellites, and if it hits one, all bets are off as to where it goes from there...

I can see it already, this will be another excuse for my Satellite Internet provider to have service interruptions...

After reading all this I was really concerned so I called my uncle. He said not to worry, it won't get closer than 17,000 miles. He said HAARP would generate a signal that it would skip along like a rock on water at that distance and therefore bypass earth.

Oh, okay...

Ok Doc. I get where your coming from. I am simply stating that "your technology" to track this thing is just modern. This "thing" headed our way is pushing boundries id say of our current technologies. Tell me, do you know all of the absolute facts about 2012 da14's path and what it is made of and how the guts of this thing effect its "path"? No, you dont.

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I have heard that this is the closest approach of an object this size that the public has been allowed to know about beforehand, is this true?



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Isn't possible that Earth may suck the asteroid in, given it is passing WITHIN its powerful EM field?

Who else has considered this very logical idea?

I personally appreciate the good science and the good math of our resident astronomer here.

When it comes to math, there's no arguing against specific calculations. Calculations don't lie and they are not based upon somebody's opinion. People may continue to attack Astromut but the truth of the matter is that they are attacking solid math and physics just because it doesn't line up to their opinions! Therefore if you are going to argue against Astromut, show us your math and calculations because otherwise your opinions amount to silly fantasies.

Thanks for your service Astromut!

To throw my few cents in on the table...as many of you 'old uns' realise I only drop in on occasions, this being one of them!
The request for data by NASA while considered 'normal' in the astro world (collating data etc) as we all know NASA - Never A Straight Answer - works on current, known and accepted research and data provided by certain departments - they never have the FULL data to hand, hence the 'urgent' request -..e.g. basically they know diddly squat when it comes to outer space artefacts..

Personally - having researched for many years since the 1990's with 'known science-based' colleagues and people like Kent Steadman and others, it was our conclusion that NASA and other organisations were working on assumed 'known' 'facts' and not all of them corerct as they later published..
For e.g. they never take into account any 'external influences' - and in the case of the upcoming DA14 fly by my main concern is the effects of Solar activity...the distance and trajectory of this mama next week may easily be disrupted by any flow or disruption of electro magnetic storms/effects..
I could go on...but there is enough 'evidence' to demonstrate that as they say 'anything could happen in the next half-hour'...
I will be watching this mama closely....no 'one' person or organisation can be arrogant enought to say without a shadow of doubt that 'X' or 'Y' may happen, as that 'one' will never have all the full facts to hand to calculate the outcome....let alone taking into account any other 'external' forces outside (or inside) our sol system..

Cutting a long story very short -if it were not so serious... 'beam me up Scotty' -
Lastly - NASA will never let on to the public if there was any chance of a possible 'hit' ....(Panic is a situation they would not be able to cope with ). may be one of the reasons they send out that NASA staff and family 'Be Prepared' Video about a year or so ago!!?
'Just sayin' ....

Math is not God.

Neither is Astro.

He does have quite an impressive track record though.


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OK, thanks Astro!

I just hoped for a big 2 Megaton boom, lol.

I think this needs to be pinned...

PS - just to comment to a post added above while I was typing this...mathematics does not lie you are correct 'Assuming' you had the correct figures in the first place - recall the Kilometres/miles mistake for instance regarding the Mars mission...
If this mama gets pulled in by our earth's gravitationsl pull, the speed will double and so too will its effect..
The Russian incident in the early 1900's was they say the result of an 'air burst' we can only imagine what would occur if a similar object would impact terra firma, or even in/over water...

Hey,...I remember hearing you on the old Alex Merclinger? show years ago.

Anyway, cool to see you still out and about.



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According to NASA yes. It is the biggest and closest observable asteroid in modern time.

"Nevertheless, the flyby will provide a unique opportunity for researchers to study a near-Earth object up close. Here are the facts about the safe flyby of Earth of asteroid 2012 DA14 -- a record close approach for a known object of this size. "

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Your right bud, but there IS something to say for where these "specific calculations" come from, and also wether there are really even enough of these "specific calculations" to form solid evidence, like your beloved doctor does constantly.

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Uh, uh, uhhhhhhhhhhh!
The official NASA claims have been consistently stating the possibility of collision with an orbiting satellite or flotsam, YET you in your video of today claim, based on the latest astrometry, that there's an even greater distance between 2012 DA-14 and geosynchronous orbit thus even less chance of a collision; AND YET you now claim an increase in distance from the earth of 205 miles which should place 2012 DA-14 even closer to geosynchronous orbit and a potential collision. Sorry, your claims don't add up. I watched your entire video this morning. Huge contradictions.
Why don't you debunk the huge signals (screenshots) posted today by Children of the Atom? I'd love to read you debunking screenshots from Meteorscan.com. They're looking pretty darned potent the farther down you look at what COTA has captured and posted in their thread today.

Thanks Zack - yep stilla round 'lurking' LOL - but still involved when needed etc
Yes Alex show, that was a close one..LOL - also on coast 2 coast, jeff rense etc etc... good ol days! fond memories

OK guys- here is my only question- assuming this asteroid does strike earth, if it hits the Atlantic ocean, will it cause a tsunami to reach above 50 feet and will thousands be killed along the East Coast?

Reason for question---

1. Remote viewers say Washington DC under water?
2. Caskets for thousands in Louisiana by train?
3. Reason for ammunition to govt services if they are cutoff from Washington DC
4. Obama takes sudden trip to Denver next week?
5. Lastly, two snowstorms next week will take peoples minds off the issue

Why did this thing just inch 3000 miles closer OVERNIGHT?

I completely disagree with that. This asteroid's orbit is very easily knowable with current technology. If I can figure it out for myself without NASA's help at all, then it's nowhere near the boundaries of our technology.

The guts of this thing are irrelevant to its path. Objects fall at a constant rate in a given gravity well regardless of what they're made of. Basic physics.